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AT&T Tilt 2 Review - Four for Four

 

There is little doubt that the HTC Touch Pro 2 is a quality Windows phone. The AT&T version, the Tilt 2, is the final of the four major U.S. carriers to see release. Will the Tilt 2 be another outstanding Windows Phone? Can HTC hit four-for-four with the Touch Pro 2 models?

The Tilt 2 is in limited release through AT&T until October 18 and we've gotten our hands on one to review. This is the fourth Touch Pro 2 that I've reviewed, so let's cut to the chase. Follow the break to see if the Tilt 2 lives up to the standard the T-Mobile, Sprint, and Verizon versions have set.

First Impressions

Like the other Touch Pro 2 models, the AT&T Tilt 2 has a solid feel to it. The phone comes in at 4.57 inches by 2.34 inches x 0.65 inches and weighs in at 6.3 ounces. While a little heftier than its little brother, the AT&T Pure (aka the Touch Diamond 2), the Tilt 2 feels good in the hand. AT&T is packaging the Tilt 2 with the USB cable, wall charger, spare stylus, head phone adapter, and the routine manuals and software CD.

The Tilt 2 is noticeably larger than the AT&T Pure and the AT&T Fuze. But, surprisingly, the Tilt 2 is a smidgen thinner than the Fuze. 

Design

The Tilt 2 has a black accented face with chrome trim. The back is a gun-metal gray, high-gloss finish with a center mesh screen for the speaker. The Tilt 2 does have a sharp, conservative look about it, but it is a fingerprint magnet. The gray battery cover helps minimize the impact, but you still have to frequently wipe it down.

I did find the chrome accents a little on the slick side, making it challenging to extend the keyboard with one hand. I think the Tilt 2 looks good but would have preferred a finish that had a little texture and grip to it.

On the left side of the Tilt 2 you will find the volume buttons and the PTT button. I'm reluctant to call the PTT button a good thing because not everyone (anyone?) will use AT&T's push-to-talk service, but the button on the Tilt 2 has two things going for it. First, it's not as obnoxiously large as the PTT button on the Fuze and second, it's mapable.

The right side of the Tilt 2 is bare and the power/sleep button rests to the top of the Windows phone. As with other Touch Pro 2 phones, a button panel rests at the bottom of the screen. Here is where you can find the answer, start, back and end buttons. Just above the buttons is the zoom bar.

While many would prefer the 3.5mm jack, the Tilt 2 is fitted with the extUSB port only. As I've written in other reviews, the 3.5mm jack is more convenient than the extUSB port but isn't a deal-breaker, in my opinion. There are several options for wired headsets, and you've always got the adapter.

All the control buttons (volume, PTT, power, start, etc.) on the Tilt 2 were raised just enough to make them accessible and all were crisp and responsive.

The Tilt 2 is fitted with a 1500mAh battery which, combined with the improve power management of Windows Mobile 6.5, lasts considerably longer. Where the Touch Pro's power source struggled at times to make it through a day, I had no difficulty making it through the day with the Tilt 2 under moderate to heavy use.

Under the battery cover you will also find the micro-SD expansion slot and reset button. AT&T threw in a little twist in positioning the reset button. It's under the battery cover but on the opposite side as the expansion slot. Sprint and Verizon placed their reset buttons adjacent to the expansion slot.

I would have preferred to have seen the reset button placed in the stylus port (like on the Pure) or on the bottom of the phone for convenience sakes. As with the lack of a 3.5mm jack, the location of the reset button is not a deal-breaker.

Screen

I've been using the AT&T Pure for a few weeks and before that, the AT&T Fuze. While the Pure's 3.2-inch screen is noticeably larger than the Fuze, the Tilt 2's 480x800, 3.6-inch screen dwarfs both of them. Simply put, it's a great screen both in responsiveness and image quality. I did notice that there was a slight blue cast on the screen but discount it because AT&T's themes incorporate so much blue.

The Tilt 2 has a proximity sensor. When you move the phone to your ear, the sensor turns off the screen. When you move the phone away, the screen turns back on. This is a wondrous invention that eliminates the need to hunt for the power/sleep button to turn on your screen when you're on a call.

I'm still on the fence with the tilting screen. I can live with or without it but will admit, it comes in handy when watching video. I'll maintain that it's better to have the tilt feature and not need it than need it and not have it.

One issue that was present with the AT&T Fuze was a slight delay with screen rotation. With the Tilt 2 there were no delays in screen rotation when extending the keyboard and about a half-second delay in rotating the screen.

Keyboard

Okay, let's get to the point. AT&T dropped the ball by removing the numeric keys from the top row, right? I can see this as a valid point if you were coming from a Sprint or Verizon Touch Pro. However, if you're coming from the AT&T Fuze you're used to having to press the function key to type numbers. The Tilt 2's keyboard is consistent with the Fuze, making upgrade transition easier. The Tilt 2's keyboard may be different that other Touch Pro 2 models, but it's not something that you can't grow accustomed to.

The silver keys did take a little getting used to, but they are nicely spaced and responsive to the touch. Typing was a breeze with no mushiness to the keys. There are just enough function keys (Web browser, e-mail, WiFi, etc.) to give the keyboard expanded functionality.

Software

The Tilt 2 is the first of the Touch Pro 2 lineup to be introduced with Windows Mobile 6.5. We already taken a closer look at WM 6.5, and it compliments the Tilt 2 very nicely. Being an AT&T phone, it's also branded with its fair share of bloatware. You've got the customary AT&T App Center (media mall), Navigator, and AT&T WiFi. There's also the AT&T Online Locker and AT&T Music.

You do have the useful, pre-installed apps such as Microsoft Mobile Office, Opera Mobile browser (version 9.5), Adobe Reader LE, and Windows Marketplace.

As with the Pure, I'm finding several "hidden" applications on the Tilt 2. You've got a YouTube application and trial versions of Guitar Hero and Texas Hold'em Poker. The trick is finding the shortcut to the app and move it into your Windows>Start Menu>Programs folder.

Touchflo 3D

TouchFLO 3D 2 on the Tilt 2 is identical to the TF3D installed on the Pure. I'm still a little surprised that AT&T didn't opt for a more recent version of TouchFLO 3D.

The TouchFLO 3D on the Tilt 2 has the calendar and stock tabs along with the ability to hide unwanted or unused tabs (great for handling the AT&T tab). Navigating around TouchFLO 3D and other applications was effortless and I experienced very few mis-touches.

GPS

The GPS receiver on the Tilt 2 performed along the same lines as the other Touch Pro 2 versions. From a cold start, with QuickGPS updated it took just under 40 seconds to get a satellite fix through GoogleMaps. I experienced no lag time while moving and the positioning was accurate.

Camera

The camera on the Tilt 2 performed a little bit below par compared to the other Touch Pro 2 versions. The Tilt 2 seemed more "middle of the road" than anything with images a touch darker or muted than expected.

The Tilt 2 runs the standard HTC camera software and with the absence of a directional pad, you're left with using a shutter symbol to snap the picture. I was hoping you could map the PTT button to serve as the shutter button but then again, it might be a little awkward to manipulate.

You have eight capture modes including still photos, videos, video share, contact photos, panoramas, MMS videos, Theme photos (frame templates) and GPS photos (tags your pictures with GPS coordinates) to video.

 The video quality of the Tilt 2's camera was also "middle of the road." Panning was smooth, focus acceptable, and the footage was a shade darker than other HTC cameras.

*Footnote: The weather in my neighborhood has been dreary lately with more rain than sunshine. When the weather clears, I'll re-test the camera and report back to you.

Performance

From power management to sound quality, the Tilt 2 performs just as nicely as any of the other Touch Pro 2's I've reviewed. I'm even seeing a strong wireless signal from the Tilt 2 compared to the AT&T Fuze.

Call quality is really, really, really good. HTC has done an exceptional job with the dual microphones and noise-cancellation software. The Touch Pro 2 model's call quality is amongst the best I've experienced.

One of the key features of the Tilt 2 is the speakerphone. You have the ability to turn on the speaker either through the on-screen menu or simply lay it face down. A mute button is on the back for easy access when you're using the Tilt 2 more as a conference phone.

Speaker volumes were good and the dual microphones picked up your voice really good. You do have to speak up a little but shouting at the phone is not required.

One Oddity

The AT&T Tilt 2 is an impressive phone but during the review I ran across a strange anomaly. I noticed the screen would always be on when I pulled the Tilt 2 from the case and at first, I thought the case was pressing against the power button.  Long story short, through trial and error, I discovered that if you place a magnet directly on a very specific and small area of the phone, it will turn on the screen.

The Tilt 2 has a feature that when you remove the stylus, it triggers a magnet that turns on the screen. Apparently, the magnets on the case were strong enough to trigger the Tilt 2's screen when passed by or pressed against the bottom of the phone.

In discussing this with HTC, the internal magnet in the Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 can be activated by holding a strong enough magnet against the USB port. It's simply magnets being magnets.  Granted some magnets are stronger than others so the results vary. 

We were able to replicate the results with the Sprint and Verizon Touch Pro 2 models. We no longer had access to the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 review unit so it was not tested. The Tilt 2 seems slightly more sensitive to the issue than the CDMA versions.

After much thought and discussion, we see this more as an oddity than a drawback with the Touch Pro 2 and Tilt 2 models. It's no different than the case pressing against the power button, just a little more mysterious. 

Overall Impression

It may have taken AT&T a while to get the Tilt 2 on the shelves but the wait was definitely worth it. The Tilt 2 is currently available through AT&T's Premier/Business site and is expected to be available in retail stores and online October 18.

The Tilt 2 is solidly built with a sharp, conservative appearance. The chrome accents are slowly growing on me but I still wish there was a little texture and grip to the finish and less gloss. The Tilt 2 has a bit of heft to it compared to the AT&T Fuze but nothing to give it the feel of a brick.

The large 3.6-inch screen is a pleasant upgrade from the 2.4-inch screen of the Fuze. While the keyboard lacks the numeric row, it by no means diminishes the quality. Keys didn't feel soft or mushy and were spaced enough to make typing comfortable.

Call quality was outstanding and possibly the best on the market.  The 528MHz processor zipped along nicely with no delays experienced with loading or transitioning software.

Understandably, many would have like to have seen a 3.5mm headphone jack on the Tilt 2. I can understand the disappointment but it's not a deal breaker.

Overall, I liked the Tilt 2 and it follows HTC's standard for quality really well.  There's little doubt that HTC went four for four in producing another quality version of the Touch Pro 2.

If you're looking to move to AT&T (or already a customer) and looking for a quality Windows phone, the Tilt 2 will be hard to beat.

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says:

Can you compare the tilt 2 with another tp2 for thickness comparison? tilt2's spec says it should be .03in thinner. It's not a big deal, but I'm just curious.
Thx

says:

Current Tilt (8929) owner... Not impressed---- Wait for a snap dragon 1 ghz phone...

I went into the store to test the phone. Made sure zero programs were running in the back ground. Googling on opera mobile was sluggish and terrible. Browsing on opera mobile was bad.. Had 3G connection.

The phone touchflo interface is quick but still sluggish at times.. Not sure how the video quality is b/c I couldn't find a site to download a video .wma etc b/c opera is terrible.
Phone has a SPECTACULAR speaker phone and a clear large screen. The touch screen is ok, but not that great.

Using this phone was like driving a Ferrari with only a 200HP engine...

I will wait for an HTC HD2 or HTC phone with a snap dragon and windows mobile 7. If neither can impress I will consider another phone... Android? Iphone beyond 3gs? Sony? Samsung?

The tilt 2 is definitely not worth buying...please don't renew your 2 yr for it....

says:

I have had 4 of these phones,it is a piece of JUNK! ATT Warranty keeps sending replacements and within about two weeks the same problem occurs. The speaker gets a bad crackle distortion. Stay away from this phone!

pinguino1 says:

It would be nice to have a matrix comparing the 4 phones.
Also,
Which carrier branding made it worst than the unlocked TP2?
Which one actually improved the original HTC?

says:

AT&T released something like this and it was posted here at WMExperts last week I believe. It showed all of the differences (plusses and minuses) of the four models.

says:

Verizon's version is the closest to the original HTC as far as the software. There is virtually no carrier bloat pre-installed. Just links to VzNavigator, Visual Voicemail, and their Mobile Email client (non of which are preinstalled).

I have been using the VZW TP2 for over a month and it is definitely the best Windows Phone I have ever used (and I have used A LOT).

The differences in thickness isn't enough to make a difference between the Touch Pro 2 models (including the Tilt 2).

We're currently working on a comparison piece of all four Touch Pro 2 Windows Phones. It just needs a little polishing up and some final thoughts on the Tilt 2 added.

pinguino1 says:

Thank you George, I will be looking forward for it.
OH, I forgot, all four review are very concise and informative.

uranidiot says:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha NO 3.5MM JACK FOR YOU AT&T USERS hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. AT&T USERS were better off importing it instead of waiting all this time and not getting 3.5MM JACK. oh well cheers for the cdma counter part tp2.

says:

I've never understood why the 3.5mm jack is such a huge deal. How much music could you put on their? if you're a normal person you have MULTIPLE gigs of music. I could never find a microSD card big enough to hold all of it. That's what your iPod is for. who gives a flying #@%! about a headphone jack. The amplifaction on these ports on these phones are TERRIBLE all you'll get at high volume is distorion. Use a @#! MP3 player.

says:

LOL...as if headphones are only useful for listening to music on internal storage.

Guess you never heard of streaming radio, streaming TV, podcasts, and the hundreds of other internet apps with audio you can use on your phone?

says:

I have a 16GB card in my TP2. It doesn't hold ALL my music, but enough to get me by in a pich when I'm travelling light.

The Amplification through headphones is pretty darm good on the TP2 and using the included Audio Booster, provides as good of sound as my 160GB iPod classic.

As far as music goes, though... Wunder Radio and Groovefish have opened up all kinds of doors with regards to mobile music choices w/ this phone.

Is a 3.5mm jack a deal breaker? Heck no. You can always buy an adaptor, or bluetooth headphones. But there's no denying it's a handy addition and it's one thing I've really come to utilize on my Verizon TP2.

Gameboy70 says:

I use a 16GB microSD card, which is more capacity that the iPod Nanos I see lots of people carrying. And I haven't notice any significant distortion at high volumes through my Treo Pro's headphone jack, though I do hear it when using A2DP.

I have no interest in carrying a second device or accessory to listen to music when a smartphone with a proper jack will do the job with less clutter.

says:

I have a Tilt without a 3.5mm jack, and have Bluetooth Stereo A2DP Motorola headphones that run for more than 8 hours on a charge. I also linked the bluetooth stereo signal with my car radio, so I get in, they auto-connect, and I play music without cords. There is just no reason I'd even WANT to use a 3.5mm jack. Go cordless!

says:

I have a Tilt without a 3.5mm jack, and have Bluetooth Stereo A2DP Motorola headphones that run for more than 8 hours on a charge. I also linked the bluetooth stereo signal with my car radio, so I get in, they auto-connect, and I play music without cords. There is just no reason I'd even WANT to use a 3.5mm jack. Go cordless!

says:

Ya, headphone jack would have been nice but you could just keep a usb to 3.5 dongle permanently attached to your headphones

Gameboy70 says:

If you kept it permanently attached to your headphones, you might as well buy miniUSB headphones in the first place and save some extra bulk. Adapters are too cumbersome, especially when you're aware of so many phones on the market with 3.5mm jacks. Again, the whole point of the 3.5 jack is to avoid having to carry an adapter.

Your comment probably reflects the public reaction that HTC designers were hoping for: "Well, I guess I'll just use the adapter, buy miniUSB headphones online or go A2DP." Two years ago, when carriers were still insisting on 2.5mm jacks, there was no competitive disadvantage. After the iPhone, there's no excuse for not including a 3.5mm jack other than nickle-and-diming customers, even for so-called "business customers" that RIM apparently doesn't have a problem accommodating.

Listen to any interview with HTC's Eric Lin in the first half of 2009, and invariably he's grilled on the 3.5mm jack issue, sometimes diplomatically, sometimes not. The company finally had to relent and announce that all future devices will include 3.5 jacks. So fortunately, this debate is coming to a close.

says:

never heard of stereo bluetooth? I love it!!

gregorypleau says:

The case magnet thing exists on the Telus TP2 as well. Easy enough to fix if you're willing to part with the keyboard slide out to wake function with a registry edit over at XDA developers

CeluGeek says:

If you map the PTT button to launch the Camera application, doesn't that make it work as the shutter button when you are already in the camera app?

Just tried and sure enough... when you map the PTT to the camera app, it serves as the shutter. CeluGeek, thanks for the tip.

Gameboy70 says:

While many would prefer the 3.5mm jack, the Tilt 2 is fitted with the extUSB port only. As I've written in other reviews, the 3.5mm jack is more convenient than the extUSB port but isn't a deal-breaker, in my opinion. There are several options for wired headsets, and you've always got the adapter.

Sigh. The whole point of having a 3.5mm jack is not having to use the adapter, miniUSB headsets that aren't available in retail channels (e.g. Best Buy, Sony Style, Fry's), and relatively large A2DP headsets. Fortunately, this should be one of the last devices HTC tries to fob off as a "minor inconvenience."

motty69 says:

Do any of the GSM TP2's have a 3.5mm jack? I know T-Mo & AT&T don't, but what about Europe, UK, etc?

shootthis says:

"As with the Pure, I'm finding several "hidden" applications on the Tilt 2. You've got a YouTube application and trial versions of Guitar Hero and Texas Hold'em Poker. The trick is finding the shortcut to the app and move it into your Windows>Start Menu>Programs folder."
Hey George,
I noticed you mentioned the hidden programs. So I moved the 25k Youtube shortcut to Windows>Start Menu>Programs folder and the program will open and display the video list, but when I select a video to play, the htc app opens and it just hangs in the "connecting" mode. It will hang for about a minute or so and then finally give me a connection error message. I am using the stock rom without any reg changes. Did you get your Youtube to work?
Has anyone else experienced this? All other internet connected programs work just fine and I can get Youtube to play through Coreplayer just fine. Thanks for your help.

It did hang on the "connecting mode" but I tapped "all videos" and it went to the video listing display.

The 25B file is the only one that launched the YouTube application. The other two (a 444K and 11.0K) produced the "no associated application can be found blah, blah, blah" error.

I know you can download the Guitar Hero 3 and some of the other apps here but I didn't see the Youtube app. If you don't get things to work, you might want to try this Youtube CAB.

It was just kinda nice to have it already installed.

Slapisaurus says:

I have a T-Mo TP2 and the weird magnet thing works on it as well. weird

Dave Blake says:

You can read more about the case magnet Oddity and take the Battery Poll in our forums.

http://forums.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?t=175441

says:

I currently use a garmin xt card in my tilt. Will the garmin card work in the tilt 2?

pinguino1 says:

Im with AT&T but I hate the Function/numbers layout. It looks that T-Mobile is coming with $60 everything plan and even financing the phone. I'm hesitant about the 3G T-Mobile coverage but the keyboard looks better. Any T-Mobile fans out there?

says:

George,
I look forward to your comparison of the 4 versions of the TP2...and here are a few things you might want to add to the comparison: Do all 4 version include the full Microsoft Voice Command product? Does the crucial "annoucement of caller's name" feature work through a bluetooth headset on all four? Do any of the four exhibit any ideosyncracies when using Microsoft Voice Command?

says:

Current Tilt (8929) owner... Not impressed---- Wait for a snap dragon 1 ghz phone...

I went into the store to test the phone. Made sure zero programs were running in the back ground. Googling on opera mobile was sluggish and terrible. Browsing on opera mobile was bad.. Had 3G connection.

The phone touchflo interface is quick but still sluggish at times.. Not sure how the video quality is b/c I couldn't find a site to download a video .wma etc b/c opera is terrible.
Phone has a SPECTACULAR speaker phone and a clear large screen. The touch screen is ok, but not that great.

Using this phone was like driving a Ferrari with only a 200HP engine...

I will wait for an HTC HD2 or HTC phone with a snap dragon and windows mobile 7. If neither can impress I will consider another phone... Android? Iphone beyond 3gs? Sony? Samsung?

The tilt 2 is definitely not worth buying...please don't renew your 2 yr for it....

Tim Ferrill says:

I disagree. I also went from a Tilt to a Tilt 2. After minimal tweaking (or a ROM flash...right Phil?) the performance gets much better. The screen size/resolution, keyboard and WM6.5 upgrades are worth the cost of the upgrade by themselves in my opinion.

My biggest complaint is the amount of worthless crap that AT&T decided that I needed, but that is something that can be fixed with a little time and effort.

says:

Hello Tim,
Can you tell me how to tweak to get rid of the bloatwwares in tilt2 please?
Many thanks in advance!
Jae

says:

I currently have a Tilt and have been fairly satisfied with its performance, especially because I drop it so much.

I am interested in this phone over the iPhone because I use the tethering feature of my Tilt all the time, and at&t has not activated the tethering feature of the iPhone yet. I also really like having the tilt screen and real keyboard (have tried out my dad's iPhone and texting and tweeting just don't compare.

Because I am a current Tilt user, I am used to the keyboard layout as well as the mini USB only plug. Though I'm slightly disappointed they didn't add a 3.5 jack, I'm not entirely upset as I already own a bluetooth headset and an adapter.

I am happy however they moved the reset button as too many attempts to reset my Tilt in the dark and instead putting the stylus in the USB slot damaged the pins.

Lastly I think I will miss the scrolling wheel and directional pad, though love the bigger screen and zoom bar function so it's worth it.

I will have to wait a little longer to upgrade to this phone because even though I am a premier member, at&t only allows an early upgrade if you switch to the iPhone. The ironic thing is by time I can upgrade to this phone the cost will have gone down and at&t will have lost money.

Tim Ferrill says:

I really thought I was going to miss the D-pad too, but I don't miss it nearly as much as I thought I was going to. Same thing with the scroll wheel. So many things are swipe capable, I really don't miss it.

One thing that bites me every once in a while is that the Shift and FN key are switched. Darn muscle memory.

says:

The HTC Tilt2 ships with Windows Mobile 6.5 out of the box and offers excellent call quality. The smartphone features a spacious QWERTY keyboard and bright touch screen.

A few last minute observations....
Battery life is much better than the Fuze. I'm making it through the day with moderate use with 30-40% battery life remaining.
When did Zip Mobile come into play? I stumbled upon this utility the other day and was pleasantly surprised.
I would have liked to have seen the button row either larger or spaced a little further from the edge of the phone. I'm finding with one handed use, these buttons are a little challenging to manipulate.

jfa1 says:

I would think if you do as some people have posted elsewhere flash the rom to get rid of the att bloatware and other things you dont want that the lag or lack of zip noted by some here does go away.

says:

I have the current US tilt (HTC 8925), although I like my phone, I hate the lag, the freeze ups, the back light issues with WM 6.1, and the list can go on. The iPhone is not an option for me. I need a real business phone, not a college kid's toy. I am constantly on the road, and I often have to open, edit, and send excel and word files. The iPhone doesn't do these necessary tasks. My tilt gets a great signal. My colleges are constantly crying about the iphone's lack of signal strength.

Why did AT&T remove the second camera?
Does the tilt 2 improve on the original's touch movement, or is it still jerky and unreliable?
Why haven't they included a flash for the camera?

says:

If you like your phone and want to wait you can go to HTC's website and download the latest version of ROM. I did and all the problems you mentioned have been resolved. It takes about 15 min. There are a few features that you loose but overall its worth it.

says:

Calendar Reminder Snooze options? - Does anyone have any idea why the new tilt 2 (or should i say WM 6.5) eliminated the option of time selection? When a reminder pops up, the only choices are "snooze", and "dismiss". the snooze choice just snoozes for a preset 10 minutes, on my old WM os, tapping snooze brought up 4 different time choices (MUCH MORE BETTER). Does anyone know of any WM Office mods that will open this feature back up?

thanks for any of your help...

says:

I have had a tilt for 2 years and really liked the phone, except for a few strange things. A week ago Friday my tilt screen cracked. I started doing some research and found out that the tilt 2 was coming out on Sunday. So I ordered one and it showed up on Wednesday.

So far it has been a great phone. My garmin xt card went in and worked right away. Don't waste you money on the monthly GPS service, spend the $99 to buy a garmin xt card.

I paired the phone to my 2004 BMW 325 and the phone book transferred. Note I dropped my verizon service in 2004 because they would not allow the phone book to transfer. Since then my wife purchased an LG phone that would not pair with the BMW and went back to a Motorola phone

The phone also paired with my Sienna. Finally all my outlook contacts transferred without a problem.

I like the market place, speaker phone/conference call features, etc. Yes there are some things that could be improved, but so far this is the best phone I have used.

says:

I preordered my 8925 and used it for 2 years with little trouble (after dumping the bloatware and doing some tweaking). I picked up my tilt 2 on the 18th of October through ATT and am very impressed (minus the bloatware). I own an awesome pair of wireless bluetooth stereo headphones that make it so much better than using the jack. It's all in the user and ATT has had my business since I started with my Cingular HTC 8125 (the brick) back in 2005.......

says:

they refer to this phone as a business phone but you cannot find a business contact by looking up their business name. when you finally find the person you are looking for their address cannot be seen except by clicking on the edit button. the most important feature does not half as good as the orginal tilt. but they added face book and alot of other usless junk that someone who runs a business has no time for and does not need

says:

wireless bluetooth stereo headphones = no jack needed. would be nice but it's not needed.

says:

You say that Internet sharing required a registry setting. It would be helpful if you included that info in your comment, or at least a pointer to where others could find it.

says:

I have been with ATT and HTC for a while (probably too long) started with an 8525, then the 8925(Tilt), then the ST7377(Tilt2). I'm not sure why - I keep hoping they will get it right... I should have learned my lesson by now.

The 8525 was initially a disaster, at least until they came out with the first updated ROM. I had to reset the thing 2-3 times daily, the battery barely lasted half a day, and it dropped calls - endlessly. I laugh and cried every time it did as I was driving up I95. I also ran into several problems with syncing and had to regularly hard reset the device... maybe I shouldn't be surprised since we are talking about Windows.

Same thing with the Tilt - until the first update. To give credit the 8925 was much faster, more solidly built, and had a much nicer screen. Of course my muscle memory was fighting me for the first 6 month with the reversal of the keyboard and location of the USB connector.

When my Tilt stopped reading the sim card I reverted to the 8525 with a cooked rom... which lasted much longer than it should have.

Somewhere in the middle of all that there was Vista - and the mobile device center - ug.

Then came the Tilt2. Prior to it I didn't really have any (many) option from ATT... I wasn't willing to give up screen size with the Fuze(I think) and almost defected to an iPhone - until I found out that syncing with outlook (without an exchange server) was incomplete through mobile me - there suggested sync option - however I was told... there was an app for that. Mobile me would sync contacts, calendar, and bookmarks however there wasn't an option for tasks or files... two things I use regularly. Mobile me actually worked pretty well for the options it has... it just isn't complete for Outlook on Windows.

First and foremost the Tilt2 has a great screen and keyboard (minus the muscle memory for shilt and control). It is fast and has much more memory - - big and - so far seems to have much better battery life. The GPS seems to update much faster and worked better with Windows Live Search and Google maps (until my hard reset last night).

My biggest complaints so far with it are: bluetooth, internet sharing, and many irritating WM6.5/ATT problems with the interface.

Bluetooth - is completely updated and does not work with any of my three (1 plantronics, 2 motorola (older ones)) earpieces. Well it sort of works with two of them - it will set up the partnership and I can listen but can't talk. After nearly 2 hours with HTC, plantronics, and ATT nobody could tell me which ones would work or other than the fact there is a new Bluetooth stack why they didn't work. According to HTC the new stack doesn

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I used the original Tilt for a long time. The Tilt 2 is great. The only thing I would have changed is the space bar. It isn't long enough. My thumb has to feel for it. The original Tilt was a little easier to text quickly with. But it has only been 2 days and I am sure I'll get used to it.

As far as the audio jakc is concerned, " wireless bluetooth stereo headphones = no jack needed. would be nice but it's not needed. " is the correct answer. No big deal at all.

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what case is that in the pic, and where did you buy?

It's the Ecolife Side Case.

You'll need to disable the "slide to wake" feature by installing this this cab file.

Otherwise the magnets in the case will interact with the magnets in your Tilt2/Touch Pro and constantly wake up your phone.

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I've had a Tilt since they came out and am considering an upgrade to a Tilt2.

I've put a lot of time into "settling in" on my Tilt by upgrading to WM 6.5, Opera browser, modifying the registry for various fixes/enhancements, and remapping keys.

Because WM settings are so open and flexible once you get into the registry, I have been able to highly customize the phone and have the most used features assigned to the many buttons. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm also an IT Director, so I am comfortable toying with this stuff.

For any of you who have upgraded from Tilt to Tilt2, and did a lot of tweaking, has AT&T succeeded in shutting down any of the access to what I'll call hidden features in the Tilt2?

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My wife and I both have had the Tilt, from when it was released. Up until Christmas 2009, I've used & abused it. I have another as a back up, and have not had to use it at all.

Now with the Tilt 2, I've found that AT&T "tried" to hide the "extra" features, but happily with a little help from the folks over at XDA Developers, I've been able to tweak and speed up the phone drastically.

I'm still with the Stock Rom, without the bloat ware, and in a head to head opening the same web pages on 2 Tilt 2's mine opens them roughly 40% faster.

Quick GPS in the same head to head on mine gets done roughly 90% faster (give or take 1%) GPS "Lock On" with Google Maps was roughly 75% faster, Garmin XT was an astounding 95% faster.

With a few registry tweaks (also found at XDA) my contacts display AS THEY SHOULD, phone #'s addresses and all.

With the same server settings from my work SBS server, although different email addresses my "tweaked" Tilt 2 grabs them and opens them roughly 40% faster.

All in all if you have or want the Tilt 2, spend the extra time with XDA, LEARN more about your device, tweak it up, and your all set with a comfortable feeling device, a more responsive device, and a much faster device then the original Tilt could be.

says:

Can you share the specific xda link for the Tilt2 tweaks you referenced? I am planning to upgrade my Tilt to a Tilt2 and I searched and did not find any Tilt2 specific links. Thnx

says:

I was very satisfied with the xpress mail that the Tilt has it, now the Tilt 2 does not have this feature...I really do not know what was the reason not to include the xpress mail.

says:

I upgraded from tilt to tilt2...so far things are great. took a little getting used to but like the new mix. really like how my contacts are linked to my facebook account. all the new features and it only cost me $9 for my upgrade. Win Win.

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I apologize but I forgot to add in this little tid bit of information.

Recently I was able to get a sneak peak at HTC Devices that are due out in 2010. If you do NOT have the Tilt 2 as of now, then you might be willing to wait a bit. HTC released information about their upcoming devices. 1 of which REALLY caught my eyes. Basically I am calling it the Tilt 3. It has a tilting screen like 1 & 2, a much faster CPU, and more abilities.

Here is a link to an article about this. http://www.wmexperts.com/htc-2010-leak-shows-mini-hd2-new-front-qwerty-a...

More importantly look at the TERA.

Now when HTC Releases the Tera, you can rest assured that the Tilt 2 prices will drop like a stone. That's when I will pick up my back up Tilt 2.

If your wondering why have a back up, well in this day and age it is more worth it to do so. On a previous phone I had it snatched right from my ear at a local mall. Without my back up phone, EVERYTHING would have been lost, but I sync my phones once a week, some times twice depending on usage.

But also now I install a recovery program that when the phone is turned on it quietly activates sms giving me details of it's location, it even gives me GPS coordinates of it's location, and even tells me if it has web access.

I can at that time send a command to wipe the phone, or do just about anything, INCLUDING send a pop up message that gets displayed on the screen telling the person with it that they need to call AT&T with the IMEI, Phone Number being used with the Phone, and even asks them to give out their address. Which is how I got my original AT&T Tilt back from a wannabe thief.

But back to the story here, if your interested in the Tilt 2, wait a while until HTC releases the TERA, or go ahead and buy now, which ever is your CHOICE. Go to XDA Developers and learn about your device, tweak it up and down, get rid of all that bloat ware (yes they have cabs to install items that you may want from the bloat ware.)

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My Tilt 2 has not worked up to par since day one, and still hasnt. It is by far one of the worst phones I have ever had. With Constant freezing, the on screen key board popping up at random intervals, and it keeps taking me to the games menu. It also suffers memory loss when I turn it off. Not sure if it is all phones or mine, but it sure is horrible.

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My question that is holding me back from getting this phone is how much memory can this phone hold. do you have to delete messages becasue i hate deleting messages.

Messages as in emails? How do you retrieve them? Through Exchange, POP, IMAP? You may have the option to only keep the current days emails on your phone which will help with memory issues.

Speaking of which, when you say memory are you referring to on-board or memory card capacities?

says:

ok im thinkin about gettin a tilt2 now i was wondering can you set different message tones for different people or do they all have to have the same message tone because i konw some phones you cant do that?need to know before i actually buy it and if its a good phone to have,right now i have the samsung eternity,thanks.

says:

ok im thinkin about gettin a tilt2 now i was wondering can you set different message tones for different people or do they all have to have the same message tone because i konw some phones you cant do that?need to know before i actually buy it and if its a good phone to have,right now i have the samsung eternity,thanks.

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I hate this phone. The first day I had the phone the screen when black. So they sended me another one, same thing. SO they sended me another one. Still messing up !!!Too heavy, freeze up. I hate it!!!!!!!

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The differences in thickness isn't enough to make a difference between the Touch Pro 2 models (including the Tilt 2).

We're currently working on a comparison piece of all four Touch Pro 2 Windows Phones. It just needs a little polishing up and some final thoughts on the Tilt 2 added.