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Nokia announces Drive 3.0 going live soon on Windows Phone [Now Live]

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Update - Version 3.0 is now live in the Marketplace as we just got the notification! Link after the break...

Although we’re still seeing version 2.0 for Nokia Drive on our Lumia, Nokia has finally pulled the covers of their highly anticipated version 3.0 which should be hitting the Marketplace in the next 24-48 hours. It has us so excited, we’re almost yearning to get lost just so we can use it.

Version 3.0, in our opinion, finally makes Drive the app we all wanted and expected from Nokia—sure the other versions were nice, especially for free, but they paled to the pay apps of Garmin, etc.

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With Version 3.0, you get the newly added features listed below:

  • My Commute learns your driving preferences and uses information about the latest traffic conditions to get you there faster. According to Nokia “This revolutionary feature is so new that we are going to roll it out selectively based on the available traffic data. We are then going to collect experiences that we can learn from and that will help us improving the service. The first country where My Commute is going to be available is the United States.”
  • Automatic day/night mode for optimum visibility – self explanatory
  • Pin to start: find your way with a tap – you can pin your favorite destinations and routes right to your start screen

Head to Nokia Conversations to read more and we’ll update this post as soon as we see it live on our end. In the mean, you can check here in the Marketplace.

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Can you save locations? Like a favorites list?
Edit:  After looking at the screen shots I'm going to say yes.

man i i wish that the lumia 800 was available in the us i feel i would have liked it better in the hand sigh

well... it is, except that it's a bit hard to get (there aren't that many ms store around) on the other hand you could drive to Canada to buy one :P

If you want it unlocked, Amazon is your friend.  The price is around $375 with free shipping, and at one point, the orders were being fulfilled by Amazon.

Craigslist, buddy! I see a Nokia Lumia 800 for $180, but with no box or accessories. Almost pulled the trigger but for what? WP8 will be in in less than 3 months :)

Hi this is Pino from Nokia. Favorites synching is not a feature of this Nokia Drive release, but we are working on it too.

Wohoo!!!
Well done.  I've dispensed of my Garmin.  Nokia Drive is great.  The only thing I still want is the ability to pick up my Nokia Maps favorites in drive.
Well done Nokia - Drive rocks!!!!
Even my wife loves it

All we ever wanted was everything
All we ever got was cold
Get up, eat jelly, sandwich bars and barbed wire
And squash every week into a day

Agreed, I always switch back to Bing Maps because of this. Would much rather tap the screen and get the street name than guess..

Agreed. I still use Bing maps because of this. I'm looking forward to when they get TTS, because I'd love to use these extra features 3.0 is bringing. It would be awesome to have a "take me home" tile for navigation.

Hi, this is Pino from Nokia.
As hary536 correctly reports, TTS is not a feature of Nokia Drive for Nokia Lumia just yet.
If for this reason you prefer to read instructions by Bing Maps, I'm not going to stop you, although I would be concerned about how much you are going to be distracted.
Anyway, the "drive me home" button is one of the feature of this Nokia Drive update. Just pin to start your home address ;-)

Pino, 
You should also have one more option "Drive to work" like "Drive to home"
And TTS is very important. This is where Google can beat you in terms of user perception. 
(Since lot of users give more importance to TTS than other features like offline nav)
So, the faster you get it, the better. Specially before WP8 goes live.
(Just my opinion).

I use Navigon because Nokia Drive is missing street names for voice. Doesn't feel like a complete navigation app without this feature.

I've used sat nav since Tom Tom Navigator 2 on HP Jornada and I'd say announcing street names is relatively recent. The option was present on Drive/Maps on my 5800 and N8. I used it for awhile but went back to not announced. Probably used to not having, plus some street names being hard to see. On the 5800 there used to be a Nokia app, Own Voice, it was good you could download voice packs or record your own.

So, is this baked into the phone as in if I find an address in the browser, that it brings up dirrections in Drive instead of Maps?  Is there a choice?  Do I just have to copy and paste the address (that would be a couple steps back)...  I know the app has been around for a while and I might find the answer in Drive 1.0's writeup, but that Commute feature is just incredible (if it works well)!

Noticed that too (although I do most of my driving in the US). Strange, since Nokia has a large presence in Israel. I wonder if WP8, which will have full Hebrew support and Nokia Drive included for all devices, will still not have the Israel map

Hi, this is Pino from Nokia.
Unfortunately Nokia Maps and Nokia Drive favourite places are currently not shared but we are working on it ;-)

It would be awsome if it had the option to Walk or Ride a Bike instead of only Driving (like Navigon). And it would also be great if they changed the portuguese name from "Nokia Conduzir" to "Nokia Drive". Nokia Conduzir sounds a bit stupid...

I just want to open up Nokia drive and when I select set destination, instead of just address or place there is one more option,"" contacts."" and i would like the app lowers the volume of the music playing just before it tells me to make my next move..it does not do that now.

The not lowering music playing on my phone coupled with lack of street names are 2 reasons why I continue to pay OnStar.

Hey, I wanna know what that in-car dash-mounted holder for the Lumia the guy is using in the video? I haven't seen that one, and it's pretty sweet.

Can I choose to avoid highways/freeways if I want? I couldn't figure out how to do this in Nokia Drive 2.0.

WHY, OH WHY can't this be available for all WP devices?! I've desperately need a GPS Nav app that is free and actually works! Bing Maps is ok, but it won't let you select alternative routes and when you literally live 15 feet away from a toll road it tells you to get on it even if you're looking for the closest Starbucks. *ACK!*
 
 

Every where I look Nokia is coming out with so many apps for their Lumia line. I wish I had one. (looking at you Verizon) Soon..

Hi everyone, this is Pino from Nokia.
Lot of suggestions here! Wow, I'm going to take them all back to the team ;-) And then we will start working on them. Some are ebing already developed, others should be investigated a bit more deeply, but all are going to be considered.
If you have specific questions, feel free to contact me on Twitter: @haikus

As always, thank you for chiming in, Pino!   I have a N8 now, but I am looking forward to the added functionality you state will be implemented in WP when I purchase my Nokia WP later this year.
 
 

You guys are getting it done.  Any chance on getting street names mentioned?  I just setup My Commute. I'll see whats up Monday morning.  Good job Nokia.

Hi Pino, thanks for following this tread. Just upgraded my titan to a 900. Please no one tell it can't run wp8 or 9 for that matter. Don't care, it cost $50. Anyway this is why I switched so close to a new generation of phones. My time is valuable and HTC wasted it. As far as drive copy the nice features of navigon (their menu system is not a nice feature). When driving in an unfamiliar area the lane guidance is outstanding.

Pinos. One feature that binds me to bing is direct input of gps coordinates. I have various campsites that are shared to me from friends via text or email and the app cannot find search results for them. You try the same thing on bing and it finds them fine. Try it! Also a share my location to another user would be sweet as well...

Updated. It's got the feature I wanted. Save current location and save to favourites. Thanks. Now I have some suggestions to improve what they have right now and what they could add.

1. It would be great if I just tab or press and hold on an area on the map and get the option to drive to that location.

2. The ability to assign locations to contacts so that you can drive to Janette, Bob or whoever.

3. Please improve the location search. It often doesn't find some places especially if they are not well known.

Agreed, on top of that, they should improve:
1. The zooming to an area while driving inside the same window without removing the top/bottom or side area and which is really slow to switch between those 2 screens.
2.  The navigation rendering, it's too glitchy for me. I like when the movement of the arrow and the map feel smooth.

My Commute evidently doesn't work in Canada. I had no idea that feature was regionally available. Quite disappointing.

Really? Nokia explicitly notes that this is still new and they are *testing* it in the US first. This should not be a surprise if you read the changelog notes from Nokia...I mean, it's written in the post above.

So essentially the only update for the rest of the world is automatic day/night and favorites. Seems kinda lacking for a full version jump. I am disappoint.

Yeah it doesn't work for me in Canada.  I don't see traffic data either.  It doesn't make sense that most of the streets in Waterloo have traffic data in bing maps (traffic data comes from nokia now) and I don't have the same data in Nokia Drive.

And I'm still waiting for the ability to set route settings such as, no toll routes (the 407 can go to hell), fastest route, shortest route, no major highways, etc.

Not sure where Nokia gets their traffic info from. The idea with waze it that it knows how fast other drivers are going ahead of you and can figure out there's a traffic jam (plus the incident reports from other users). This means traffic data in waze is much more up-to-date then any other service.

read the post, it's only available in the US right now and will be rolled out to other counrties later.

Maybe Nokia assumed we would all pick the English UK voices instead because everything sounds smarter and sexier in a British accent. ;)

Dam yo I hate those Google Fanboys I'll never used anything google just because I hate them so much they are a bunch of uneducated hypocrites assholes

Boo:  "The country of your SIM card is not yet supported by My Commute."
Hopefully either Windows Phone 8 requires SIM cards for all CDMA phones or the app's SIM check is removed.  I'd hate to have this feature blocked on WP8's built-in navigation app because Verizon or Sprint didn't include a SIM card.  Assuming that the Nokia Drive code is ported as-is to WP8, that is.

Right now all Nokia Lumia smartphones require a SIM card, which is why we have selcted that wording.
The reason is that even if you are from e.g. Canada and you are visiting the US, you don't get the My Commute feature. You have to have a US SIM to use My Commute.
If we are going to introduce smartphones not based on SIM cards we are going to change the wording accordingly. Please don't take this as a sign that we will never support e.g. Verizon.

One thing i livre on m'y tomtom, was the comment vérité a roundabout: "on the roundabout, take the second road TO THE RIGHT", telling us the direction. On my 6210, and on my Lumia, it's not so easy for the roundabouts :(

You're joking, right, and I'm just making a fool of myself commenting? All the exits from a roundabout are to the right (in right hand traffic).

Just downloaded the 3.0 version for the San Francisco Bay Area. Pretty awesome. Love the pin to start as the live tile with traffic conditions. Oddly, the intro video shows a highway A LOT like north 101 on the way into San Francisco.
I wonder if because Nokia has an office in Silicon Valley? 

Nah!  :D

 

 

 

 

Warning Rant Ahead...
Does anyone have anything positive to say about this FREE app? Could it be because you're so overwhelmed by all the FREE sat-nav apps offered by Samsung, HTC, LG,..???. Give the guys at Nokia some credit. For a FREE app, Nokia Drive is awesome and when was the last time that you had a manufacturers rep' contributing directly within a Fanzine forums thread. If only all WP suppliers were as proactive and dedicated!

I'm jealous I don't have a Lumia. You guys always get the good stuff (apps). Soon Verizon will (maybe) have a wp8 Lumia. One can only hope.

At the end of the day, as long as the criticism is just and not just hating to be hating, there is a place for it along with the praise.

Dude I have an LG, they have nothing useful. Nokia is doing a fantastic job. I WILL be getting a Nokia phone once w8 is out. Everyday I fight myself on just buying a 800. I want a Nokia so bad.

Managed to download this from the Malaysian marketplace on my L800. Really like the ability to save locations (Finally!). Too bad 'My Commute' isn't available for my region yet but not a big deal for me. ;)

this sucks only nokia phones. Should be for all wp users. That's ok my teletrac is very good enough to use and it gives me real time traffic alerts and best of it is free :-P

Why does this still not offer the deep linking for Bing search? When I search for a restaurant or place on Bing, I can swipe over to apps and just select "Garmin" and it will open Garmin, ready to tap "Go" - Nokia Drive needs this!

I'm really hoping for this in the next update.  It wouldn't be as bad if you could actually search for POIs in the app more that 20% of the time.  Actually, please improve that feature as well!
All in all, I'm still very satisfied with the app.  It can definitely improve, but I like free. :)

And that's actually quite easy to implement. I added this integration to my app in a couple of hours

Hopefully the My Commute will roll out quickly after all we already have traffic on Bing maps in the UK so that part is obviously covered.
 
I am not sure I understand what all the fuss is about Street names, I would be more concerned that it announces the turn at the right moment. Also lane assistance would be something that would make a big difference. This could be a country thing I guess but I generally could not give a hoot about the street names just that I need to turn down X road.
 
Having just completed a 1,500 marathon journey in the UK I can say that the Nokia Drive is fit for purpose. Yes I could do with some lane assistance but to be honest even the top rated Tom Tom and Garmin's SatNavs still manage to confuse me.
 
I previously had the Navigon app for my Omnia 7 and it was nice but incredibly it did not support postcodes. This is such a major omission for the UK marketplace I cannot understand how it even got released. I returned it breaching the Microsoft returns policy which is suspect in my eyes anyway but that is another story. Incredibly even today the Navigon app still does not support postcodes yet they want almost as much for the app as for a standalone device which does!! The Nokia Drive on the otherhand does and it can with the device..

Looks great! Two features i would like to see added are:
1. Commercial vehicle setting. Just having avoid highways and tolls isn't a substitute. When I P.A., a feature like this would be killer.
2. List view. It's ineffective to scroll across the screen to see when the next turn is. On my Nexus One, it was convenient to periodically go to list view and see upcoming directions.

Commenters on this site really have become as bad as the worst apple and android fan sites. Always complaining, never satisfied, wanting something for free, never appreciative, just want more and more for less and less. Sad, but looking at society as a whole not really surprising.

Considering a representative from Nokia has been contributing here and by my view, encouraging input, the commentators are primarily helping. I've been mighty impressed by Nokia and their commitment to customers. Over and over, Nokia reinforce the decision I made when preordering the Lumia 900 in March.

One thing I learned from running a message board myself is just because people aren't congratulating me, doesn't mean everyone is unhappy. Naysayers always say more. By and large, users read pretty respectful here. No?

theefman: When did people stop being able to take criticism?  That's how you improve, get better, move forward.  If anything, your comment illustrates that some people in this world simply cannot be told no, that's wrong or no, that's not good enough.  You want to be coddled, told "good job!" instead of trying to be the best.  Sure, if you think Nokia Drive 3.0 is good enough for you, by all means, use it and be satisfied.  But there are free apps on other platforms (see Waze on iOS) that do more than Nokia Drive, for free.  
 
Nokia are doing a good job, but they're not the market leader in this segment.  That's what they should be trying to be, so all criticism, suggestions, and comments should be voiced by us, the users, so Nokia can take that feedback and make Nokia Drive even better.
 
Nokia doesn't need to be coddled, they don't need you to be a White Knight and defend their honor.  Nokia needs honest, brutal feedback to help them become the best.  You go ahead and keep patting them on the head and saying "Good effort!"  I'll be continuing to offer my honest, unfiltered opinion.
 

@PhilR8...I can't speak for theefman, but what I gather from his comment is that, for a free app, an app that Nokia is continuing to support and improve upon, it's a great app and feature and that the app deserves more than to be criticized.  Many of the criticisms that some are stating, the functionality is already available in Symbian (i.e. TTS), so it's only a matter of time before the functionality is brought to WP.
 
The bottom line is that Nokia is best in class when it comes to WP - they are not only offering this service to current Lumia owners, but ultimately will offer these services to other WP users.  To get some of the same functionality in Nokia Drive 3.0, one would have to purchase an app; if there are other free navigation apps, on the WP platform, that are as good or better, then I would think that others would use those apps and not bother with Nokia Drive.
 
Waze, on iOS is an app I'm not familiar with, but it doesn't matter because the Waze app is not available on WP! 
 
And as far as Nokia not being the market leader in this area - there are millions that would beg to differ with you...there are millions of Symbian users and current Lumia users who find Nokia Maps/Drive/Navteq to be superior than other offers, especially given that they get to utilize Nokia services at no additional cost. 

I just want to add this : thanx Nokia for maintaining the Lumia and the drive. On my 6210, it was not the case, so the next wp8 will be again a Nokia :)

The My Commute feature with traffic updates is awesome. I just cant seem to figure out one thing. Does anyone know how to avoid all toll roads?

Very nice app on Lumia 900, and I appreciate the new feature of being able to pin favorite destinations as a tile.  This is similar to the feature in Navigon, which is most useful when vactioning because can pin your hotel to the home screen.  However....
When clicking on the pinned tile, the app does not show the route, instead showing an endless "finding new route" message.  What gives?

Pino, 
You should also one more option "Drive to work" like "Drive to home"
And TTS is very important. This is where Google can beat you in terms of user perception. 
(Since lot of users give more importance to TTS than other features like offline nav)
So, the faster you get it, the better. Specially before WP8 goes live.
(Just my opinion).

Hi guys,
many more comments came in since last time I've visited this thread! And because you are loving it so much, I'm keeping coming back ;-)
I can't really answer all the comments singularly but I'm reading each one of them. Basically all suggestions are being taken onboard and sent to the development team.
Some topics seem to be very important to you and I would like to hifhlight my answers here.
TTS - I guess that's becoming on of our top priorities ;-) The feedback is overwhelming. As I said before we are working on this feature too. As a rule of thumb, we would like to port most of the features of Nokia Drive for Symbian over to Windows Phone. I guess you can all understand that in one year of development we couldn't deliver all the features in just one release. But we are updating Nokia Drive very often and you are going to see this and other features very soon.
Traffic - Yes, we are crowdsourcing traffic information too. We are not only collecting info from local authorities but also from Nokia Drive users (anonimously), including Nokia N9 or Symbian users. We do this in over 25 countries, which are of course the next candidates for My Commute. And this is taking me to the last point.
US vs US vs Canada - Don't worry guys, we love English muffins and Canadian bacon too ;-) UK and Canada are also countries where we have traffic information and they will soon get My Commute too. And we might even think of rolling out more voice options in all these 3 countries.

Thanks for your hard work and for all the improvements you've made to this app. I was previously a Nokia Symbian user, and Nokia Drive was one of the main reasons I chose a Nokia Windows Phone, not a device from another OEM. This app has continuously improved since I've gotten my Lumia 900. Nokia Transit is great too. Thanks for your continual support and improvements to both apps.

One thing i dont like with my Garmin. When you get to destination the address disappears at top and all you see is a flag. I use my Navi for work everyday as i do inhome services to different addresses on a daily basis. Its frustrating that i have to look at address on piece of paper because it disappears from top of screen...the destination should stay there statically until you remove it, not when you pass it. I also should not i have voice navigation turned off so i rely on visual navi only as i use my phone for taking calls as im driving and listen to the radio at same time. As i plan on buying a NOkia WP8 device later this year I hope they implement this change. Oh, and thanks for monitoring these forums for our input.

Pino, thanks for checking in here. I'm pulling for you guys at Nokia. Here's to crushing the naysayers this fall.

A must-have simple feature on Nokia Drive is to have a current time clock on the display. I'm often annoyed that there's only an arrival time clock but no current time clock. A remaining time counter would be awesome too. If someone is asking me when i'll get on the destination I have to go to the homescreen to see the current time. This is just one step too far. Please, Nokia, fix it. 
Another feature I'd like to have is to be able to directly drive to a person from the people hub, if an adress is present in the profile. If I click the adress of a friend on his profile it wil go to Bing Maps, I'd like to have an option to drive to him/her too via Nokia Drive. 
This one is probably for Microsoft to come up with. Hope it will come to WP7.8 or WP8.
 

Hi, as johnblair7 mentioned, this is a feature we have introduced last March.
Just tap on the time and you can choose from: estimated time of arrival, estimated route lenght left and estimated time left.

Err I'm not using drive at the moment but I,m sure if you tap the time you can have it as time to destination, could be wrong though.

I hope this version has some considerable improvements over v2 as that one comes up with some very weird routes sometimes!
 
EDIT: Updated to 3.0 and the routing can still be crazy.  eg. a recent trip,
Nokia Drive: 35.6 miles, 46 minutes
Bing Maps: 28.2 miles, 41 minutes
Google Maps: 28.1 miles, 38 minutes
 
Unfortuantely I've uninstalled TomTom from my WM6.5 device or I could have posted that too.
 
Please fix the routing, it's no good having a free app if it costs me more in fuel if I use it!

My biggest concern is data usage because all i can budget for is a 200MB a month plan.  The native maps app on my Focus uses a lot of data so i don't use it much.  Is the Nokia app different in the way it uses data?

I've found that where I live the app is not very useable for longer trips without the options for selecting fastest vs. shortest routes or at t least the ability to add waypoints. On a recent trip of about 200 miles the Nokia route would have added more than 30 miles to my trip since it was routing me to Interstates or major US highways. I'm suprised this was not included in this update as I think this is a very basic funtion that any GPS software should include.