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Samsung to introduce dual-core 'Marco' and 'Odyssey' Windows Phone 8 hardware at launch

Samsung Apollo Hardware

Samsung are set to unveil dual-core hardware when Windows Phone 8 launches, according to documentation acquired by The Verge. The two listed Windows Phones are included in court documents submitted as part of the trial Samsung has against Apple. Both devices are stated to be packing the Qualcomm MSM8960 chipset, which is a dual-core 1.5Ghz CPU that Microsoft has been using for Apollo test devices.

According to the documentation (see above snapshot), the Samsung Odyssey will sport a 4.65" S-AMOLED display (with HD resolution) and an 8MP main rear-shooter. It is also marked as supporting NFC, a feature which is currently being marketed on the Nokia Lumia 610. It would seem that OEMs will attempt to include such functionality to further expand on the possibilities of NFC on the Windows Phone platform.

The Samsung Marco, on the other hand, will pack a 4" S-AMOLED display (with WVGA resolution), accompanied by a 5MP camera. Both Windows Phones will be ready for LTE usage and will be launching in Q4 2012 if the documentation is accurate.

With Apollo just around the corner (which fits into the launch timeframe supplied by this documentation), it's good to see Samsung on-board with Microsoft and preparing to throw high-end hardware into the mix. We'll be attending Nokia World this coming September to see what the Finnish handset maker has to offer to combat these proposed devices.

What do you make of the Odyssey and Marco? Would you purchase one? Let us know in the comments.

Source: The Verge; thanks, ShipWreck, for the tip!



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thedarkhalf says:

No quad core :-/

You haven't even seen WP8 run on a single core to judge performance, let alone dual and yet you're pining for quad? 

What happened to the evaluative metric?

lippidp says:

Heck, why not four 6-cores CPU's with 128GB RAM while we're complaining?!  I want this thing to run my web site's database server....

jfa1 says:

Clark Gable and Vivien Lee in "Gone with the Wind"  tha'ts where the evaluative metric has gone!

cckgz4 says:

No phone in the united states can run lte and quad core at the same time. Only dual core.

Nataku4ca says:

well.... u could go with HTC since one of their "rumored" device has quad core... but I would imagine you will need to carry some extra batteries

dkp23 says:

I am still on the side that thinks quadcore is not necessary and it is just to feed into the spec war and marketing. 

Quad core ?! No hexacore , no buy, I need to show them cores.

NIST says:

I would think the quad core HTC offering would better these.

dakken says:

I would rather have a phone optimized to run smoothly on dual core,,,, than have a phone "NEEDING" quad core to run smoothly like the android phones.

CJ Thunder says:

Without more info, looks like it is just par for the course.

R0bR says:

Obviously its great to see these devices coming out and the more there are from Samsung and HTC the better. However the efforts that Nokia have gone to push the platform, getting the apps and the customer service they have shown has me sold on a Nokia device.

Rich Edmonds says:

That's the beauty of Nokia here. The manufacturer is providing such a superb service on top of actually pushing the hardware, that the likes of Samsung and HTC will have to improve their overall service for consumers to choose them over Nokia. Higher specifications, while are welcome, aren't necessarily attract those who enjoy the exclusive apps Nokia has for example.

If they don't pour more into Windows Phone, then they'll be left behind. Win win for consumers.

MastrMeatWad says:

I love Samsung devices, but I agree they need to pour more into WP like Nokia. Get some developers and exclusive apps to win me over. At this point I will go Nokia, unless HTC puts out an updated arrive (large screen with slide out keyboard). Love the arrive and I prefer using key board over touchscreen, make it bigger and thinner and I am in no matter who manufactures.

JasonH81 says:

I agree whole heartedly. I have a Titan, which I've thoroughly enjoyed, but Nokia has me sold. My next WP will be Nokia, and if they continue this marvelous support uncontested, it'll be Nokia from here on out. One thing though, HTC has some neat phone behavior options that would make Nokia phones even better ;)

fpostrow says:

Having just upgraded to the Lumia 900 from a 1st gen focus I have to agree. While it's not fair to compre the focus to the L900 it is clear that Nokia is producing much better poduct at this point. The L900 is just ridiculously gorgeous from screen to body. They've got my business when our next two focii die.

Jf.Vigor says:

Idk either titan 3 for me or an awesome Nokia device. But hard to come down from 4.7 inches

BK-one says:

I with ya. I'll be buying a Nokia phone no matter what other manufacturers put out on the market. Nokia has won my trust and loyalty.

Yet Nokia has yet to provide a sound enhancer, Samsung has one on the GSIII I've heard.

Jf.Vigor says:

The HTC titan has a sound enhancer

Corepc says:

Nice Specs overall from Samsung, by, time I get a WP8 device in Spring 2013 should be plenty to choose from at that point..By that time hopefully we will be seeing MSM8960Pro 1.7 Quad / adreno 320..
But Dual Core is just fine has well ..

noshiro21 says:

This is what I been waiting for!!! Galaxy s 3 windows phone .i been saving my upgrade for this phone.....

diplomat696 says:

So the dual core is all good for me and LOL I laughed so hard at the portable nuclear reactor comment by one user here, that was good. Quad core for a phone right now is completely pointless and truly just a marketing ploy for the sheepses!!
Do these devices seem suspiciously similar to the Galaxy S III?
My only concern is this: is Samsung going to actually be trying to innovate for WP8 or is it simply putting a couple of phones out there just so they can say they are supporting WP8 without really doing it? I guess only time will tell on that but I don't find the specs on these phones particularly enthralling, sounds like a wp samsung s 3....I want something guessing (hoping) nokia will fit that description
The wait continues.......

dakken says:

I totally agree,,,I'll never buy another samsung phone everyone I've ever owned has been buggy,,glitchy,,,and needing updates to work properly. They never seem to put out a finished phone,,they put out half finished phones to just get them out in the market and then roll out updats to fix the problems that they never should have had in the 1st place.

Ian Too says:

My spare device is an Omnia W, so I'm open to a Samsung to replace my HD7, but I'll need to be convinced to buy anything other than a Nokia the way things stand.

Come on Samsung, HTC and Huawai, rise to the challenge!

myrandex says:

Hardware keyboard please...

Some manufacturer really should differentiate themselves by releasing one with a world class (HTC touch pro 2 style) hardware keyboard...

Hardware keyboards are no longer the thing in high end phones. Maybe mid range and low end

MastrMeatWad says:

@getusedto-that may be the case, but it does not half to be. No reason a thin phone, large screen, powerful, with keyboard is not made. No reason...

lippidp says:

I'm hopeful there will be one also.  They'll probably swing back into style at some point.  I would rather have a feature phone with a keyboard than a smartphone without one.

With onscreen keyboards getting better there's no reason to have a hardware keyboard,no reason.

lippidp says:

Here's one: they're better.

Then make your own if they were "better" there would be more of them

scdkad says:

Why are you imposing your opinion on everyone who wants something you don't?

I'm just saying that they shouldn't complain where they won't be heard by the party responsible

myrandex says:

Droid 1, 2,3,4 all have hardware keyboards and those are higher end phones for their time. Unfortunately Verizon locks them down to the point of no return, and their keyboard is still inferior to the HTC 7 Pro. I would have snagged one of those because of the keyboard if US 3G was supported :(

Looks like a galaxy s3 turned wp8 coming our way

DemiNutive says:

I have owned an hd7, a focus flash and now a focus 2 and besides the casing and other small things all the phones appeared to function just about the same, so if windows phone 8 is anything like wp7 then I expect to have the same experience no matter the specs, the only specs that are buying point for me is NFC, a slide out keyboard and if it can use micro SD cards. Anything other then that is just Android flashy nonsense to me.

lippidp says:

Me, too!  Keyboard, NFC, and microSD with WP8.  Anything else is gravy...  Even NFC is kind of gravy.

mrdeezus says:

I too will go Nokia. Maybe Sammy if the camera is good. For me it's dual core,lte,NFC,great camera and large HD screen. No more HTC for me. Their lack of support for the titan gets me angry. My sons focus flash gas tango and I don't? Completely lame. We are both in us art.

Blame AT&T,not HTC.

Nothing wrong with HTC good phones just because they don't bend over backwards for WP doesn't mean u have to ditch them get what works for

Exactly I don't understand this hate towards any OEM that's not Nokia

Sarang68 says:

Am I imagining or does the Samsung odyssey had 4 touch buttons or is it just a general image?

You'll have the three Windows Phone button and a fourth 'iPhone Death Ray' button to Zap all the iPhones around you. Windows Phone is taking off the gloves!

Why can't we have a high end smartphone without a huge screen. 4in is the highest I'm willing to go, yet every manufacture refuses to put high end specs in a smaller design. Can someone explain the fascination with huge screens?

C'mon, we are all (society) surfing the web on our phones now and going blind in the process.  We play games there, talk to our kids there, keep track of our banking and bill paying.  Our phones are where we live - in information terms - and our eyes are suffering. So larger screens are becoming necessary for people to see that information.  Samsungs Note and HTC Titan sell/sold well for a reason.  Apple is only now finding 4" to be adequate but most iPhone people I speak to love my Focus S (and older Focus) screen and wished their iPhones were that size.  So for now Android and Windows Phone will be the only choice for the hard to see crowd.  
BTW, I too will likely switch to Nokia.  I love my Sammys, but Nokia has proven that they want my future business.  Funny, I had Nokia feature phones back in the day and I loved them then.  It'll be nice to get home with a brand that treated me right in the past.

syaripn3ds says:

Nokia beat my htc radar by hving their xclusive app...make me wanna throw my radar in the dump...

Nokia lumia 800 is a best bet good specks and small screen amoled at that witch makes it very likable

Just that people love to complain

NIST says:

Easy, 5% of my actual phone use is for making calls. Therefore I want the largest screen possible. Movies, games, music, vevo, books, editing or showing pictures its all multimedia and thus the list for a large screen.

fraincs says:

As much as I love my Focus, it feels plasticy Nokia sold me through their dedication and good design!

trazer says:

I have an S3 and have had the S2 also and am unimpressed overall. Good phones, but the screens suck bad outdoors side by side my titan 2. The Samsungs are ok but not super exciting to me at least, and the new WP offerings strike me the same way. Moving to Nokia when I move.

diplomat696 says:

+1 definitely agree...

gtc69 says:

Odyssey for me. Is brilliant Nokia invest so much in WP but Sammy have become biggest oem in the world for a reason. Its because they make brilliant handsets.

diplomat696 says:

samsung is biggest oem for phones because of the popularity of android in many many cheap markets which nokia is only now starting to try to address.
the quality of handsets built by samsung does not even come close to the quality that nokia produces, all they do is reissue the same design over and over with minor changes depending on the market, price point and phone type they want.
bigger also does not mean better!!

renisans says:

The difference between Nokia and Sammy is that Nokia builds their phones like tanks. No other OEM comes close to Nokia in terms of toughness.

laserfloyd says:

Unless something dramatic happens then Nokia has my money with WP8. The other oems are just too run of the mill. I will say this though, the oems need to pick up slack and offer lots of cheaper devices.

Oh Shut up! This is a Samsung article not Nokia plus Samsung and HTC said that they will step it up with WP8.

diplomat696 says:

will believe it when I see it, my money is on a samsung s 3 reincarnation with WP OS.
The funny thing is that that retread will probably be better than the S3 but no one will recognize it because it is not running some type of icecream operating system...

Not galaxy but maybe a focus and focus s across all carriers. Samsung Focus 3 and Samsung Focus S 3

TechAbstract says:

I just need a quad core from Nokia then I am good. Seriously who is better than Nokia with their call quality, signal reception, build quality, camera, and outdoor visibility of the screen. Plus Nokia gives you more exclusive apps.

NIST says:

To future proof your purchase, be spec compatible with your android peers and to hedge any advances made for multicore support in Windows Phone 9 a quad core phone from Nokia would be an easy get. 4.7" HD screen, pureview camera. I'd come with cash in hand day one.

Ok why say that on a Samsung article?

myrandex says:

HTC Titan II Camera > anything Nokia has produced running WP. But still the other points are currently valid with the Lumia 900.

Averry says:

It's Dual Core only in the US for now because Qualcomm doesn't offer a quad core chip to run on LTE which the carriers require.
Plus the S4 processor goes toe to toe with the Tegra 3 so it's like whatev's. 

apocacrux says:

I'll probably buy the 4.65" phone if Nokia doesn't release a new phone of comparable size, I need that big screen more than I need the exclusive apps, though I of course would prefer both.
Come on Nokia, make a 5" WP8 device and I will definitely buy it.

Dethzilla says:

I have to admit that Samsung is impressing the hell out of me

CylonJason says:

I would buy a Samsung over a Nokia, since I currently have a focus and two of my favorite things about it that the Nokia phones are unlikely to have and the Samsung are: is removable batteries and expandable storage.

Marco300 says:

If that's the final name it would be funny to have a Phone that has my same name! ;)

The strain on your eyes is mostly from screen resolution, not the size of the screen. Higher PPI is what makes your eyes feel less strain. I'm ok with 4 inches, anything over that is just stupid IMO.