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Developer edition of the Nokia Lumia 920 is a one of a kind pentaband

With BUILD 2012 now behind us, we can talk a little about those Lumia 920’s that were handed out en masse to all the developers in attendance (media did not get them nor the Surface).

Seeing as BUILD attracts developers from all over the world, it would be a bit inconsiderate to give out a phone with limited 3G/4G capabilities as some would get the full package, while others would be restricted to their network. The problem is multi-dimensional as 3G GSM and 4G LTE networks vary quite widely, not to mention the combination of the two often required for great performance.

As it turns out, the Lumia 920 that was given out at BUILD is a “frankenphone” of sorts, with mixed components and from what we are told, it won’t be made again. That 920, as evidenced by the photo above from game developer Marios Karagiannis (Monster Up creator/karios.gr), shows the broad supported bands of this Nokia device, including:

  • WCDMA 850, 900, 1900, 2100, 1700_2100
  • LTE 700, 850, 1900, 1700_1900

We’re not 100% sure on what networks that specific device will run on but we’re guessing it will work on more carriers than an unlocked AT&T version.  Anyway, if you are a lucky recipient of such a phone or can get your hands on one, we suggest you hold on to it as it could be the most “universal” Lumia 920 made.

Of course if you're a bit jealous, just remember that this 920 only came in boring black. While we know some of you prefer that color, we're just going to say the 920 "pops" a bit more in those other optical variations.

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Devmer11 says:

That's cool!! That's truly an all in one package

ap3rus says:

Not really all-in-one, missing support for LTE 2600 which is used by Russian LTE-providers, now I've stopped regretting that I've missed this conference :)

EvanKr says:

The Rogers variant is pentaband too.  There have been plenty of reports with people using it on WIND or Mobilicity.

That doesn't mean it's pentaband. It's sure to have Band I but it hasn't been tested by anyone on Band VIII, so all we know for sure is that it has Band I, Band II, Band IV and Band V.
That said, the Rogers version apparently comes unlocked, and is Black, so perhaps they got shipped some dev phones.

Skelnik says:

That would be great!  I'm just waiting for my Rogers dealer to call me to pick up my 920 this afternoon (even though it's been in the city since last Thursday...)

Hope they sell it in the Microsoft store

^^^
This!! (even though I'm not getting it)

cdbstl76 says:

Oh, well since its only in black, no thanks...haha. Its nice to see MS giving some extra love to the developers. We need them! Congrats to those developers in attendance. No make us proud!

aimuatrang says:

Yes developers please support us... You know WP are amazing and those live tiles stunning

riffraffy says:

I wonder how much the "one off" aspect of the developer version impacted the unevenness of earliest reviews--which were undoubtedly based on it?

False. Most of us in the media received the AT&T version.

earle36 says:

Out of curiosity, did your 920 pick up LTE while you were there? What about when you got back home? I got a 920 at build (not going to sell it) and it always says it is on 4G or just H, but never LTE...even when I was in downtown Seattle. Does your 920 actually display "LTE"?

schlubadub says:

I thought 4G was LTE?

airwolf878 says:

According to the Nokia rep at BUILD, the codes you're seeing are due to the device being a global version. The H is equivalent to 4G, and the 4G is equivalent to LTE on AT&T.

earle36 says:

Thanks airwolf878 - that clears it up!

Isn't the Canadian Rogers 920 model pentaband as well?  Apparently it has that AWS frequency that others were rumored not to have.

macastle says:

It would be nice if they made all of them that way.

macastle says:

I wonder if it will work on the Sprint network.

No, since Sprint doesn't use WCDMA.

macastle says:

Looks like it does ;-)

MikeyMike01 says:

Maybe I'm weird, but the giant camera for me is very off-putting. I'd rather have a 925 honestly.

DaSchnee says:

I think the normal international version actually has more bands:
(Nokia.com)
 

  • GSM 850
  • GSM 900
  • GSM 1800
  • GSM 1900
  • WCDMA Band V (850 MHz)
  • WCDMA Band VIII (900 MHz)
  • WCDMA Band IV (1.700 MHz)
  • WCDMA Band II (1.900 MHz)
  • WCDMA Band I (2.100 MHz)
  • LTE 700
  • LTE 800
  • LTE 850
  • LTE 900
  • LTE 1700
  • LTE 1800
  • LTE 1900
  • LTE 2100
  • LTE 2600

(Nokia.com)

My impression is this: those are the available options for carriers. But the 920 will be carrier-specific and only some of those bands will be actually supported.

DaSchnee says:

We usually don't have carrier-specific versions in europe. Im pretty sure the unlocked version has all of those band.
At least all german retailers are listing those bands for the unlocked version.
EDIT:
My bad, the european version has those bands:
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900,
WCDMA Band V (850 MHz), WCDMA Band VIII (900 MHz), WCDMA Band II (1.900 MHz), WCDMABand I (2.100 MHz),
 LTE 800, LTE 900, LTE 1800,LTE 2100, LTE 2600
(http://www.saturn.de/mcs/product/NOKIA-Lumia-920-schwarz,48352,365082,485127.html)

polofaby says:

This. I second that. Ye in Europe at least in France all the phones i  have bought where never locked and true international versions. Gosh i even used them in con fine places of Africa and Asia and they all worked fine. My trusty Nokia E7 tend to agree with me. lol

You can't trust what Nokia puts on their website. They often screw it up.

tissotti says:

The global version has more LTE bands than any other phone.
 

HKModi says:

Congrats developers.. :)

ThaFunk says:

Soooooo....will this work on Verizon LTE?

EJNelly says:

From what I remember Verizon primarily uses cdma 850 for calls and I know they primarily use lte700. So mu assessment is yes.

For cdma it's referred to as 800.

airwolf878 says:

LTE will work for data on vzw, but no CDMA support for voice, according to the Nokia rep.

jbryanmiller says:

I second that question...was told at a local version store that they cant and will not give me a sim card , nor try to activate it. If anyone knows how, please let me know , would love to keep this phone if I can talk on it .

meathead88 says:

jbryanmiller,
PM me if you'd liketo sell, please.
 

pulkit10 says:

If currently a Verizon customer, why not just do some trimming and pop your current SIM in (if you have one, since they are CDMA)?

phirefly says:

Verizon doesn't support VoLTE so at best it would work for data only.

DavidinCT says:

Wishing wcdma worked on verizon

ebradley says:

Does not matter the network. No one can buy one.

tai4de2 says:

That's funny, I bought on yesterday from a Rogers shop in Vancouver.

ebradley says:

Jealous because they actually got the phone while we mere mortals have to WAIT. Grrrrrrrrr. :-S

ebradley says:

And I hate this f#$%•\g Titan II.

I have the 900, and love it. But I'm still getting the 920. :-D

zaidanee says:

Those are the networks supported by Lumia 920 in Saudi Arabia
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band IV (1700)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
LTE 700
LTE 800
LTE 850
LTE 900
LTE 1700
LTE 1800
LTE 1900
LTE 2100
LTE 2600
And it is unlocked. So not a unique device they have given to developers but seems to be the international unlocked version

AccentAE86 says:

Are you sure it supports WCDMA band IV?  Or do you think it's just another error on the Nokia site?  
 

It's conform to work on WIND so it is infact pentaband.

I doubt it. The one from Rogers supports WCDMA on AWS.

PeterFnet says:

I'd love to be able to buy one. Would make my travels in Europe much speedier!

Nav1llus says:

The bands stated in the article are the same bands that the Pre-Launch Unlocked  Canadian Rogers Lumia 920's have.

AccentAE86 says:

What?  Seriously?  What do you mean by pre-launch 920's?  Were you able to buy them unlocked before the release date or something?  I've never heard of it.  Do you know where I can get one in Canada?

Check your local Rogers store. If it's a dealer, they'll sell to you.

meathead88 says:

If a dev wants to unload one, please PM me :)
 

KeegdnaB42 says:

LTE 700 is interesting because in theory it could get data on Verizon but without CDMA wouldn't support voice.

MaulerX says:

So in theory you can use it on Verizon with it's LTE and just take advantage of the built in Skype for calls.

jmajid says:

so this explains the FCC ID of PYAA that i have been watching on that site...
now, the question is... is this really the international unlocked version? if so, i will try to buy this on one of my trips in/out of the UAE....
Then hopefully it works on ATT and more here in the US:)
I think Myriam Joire mentioned that this can fall back to DC-HSUPA if LTE is not enabled - is that correct?

airwolf878 says:

I can confirm the BUILD edition of the 920 is fully functional on both AT&T and T-Mobile.

dalydose says:

I'm jealous that you have a 920 of any sort, regardless of bands or color. You've got WP8 and that camera technology that a ton of us crave.

sanien says:

So now developers support us PLEASE! I don't get why developers support Android so much since it is hacked like cr@p and a lot of people don't autually pay for their apps? Sure I wish apps on WP would just as cheap as on IOS and Android, and I do hop that they will fall to those prices but I don't mind paying a little more to beging with to support the developers, beside the apps om WP are generally of good quality. So come "end of November" so I can get my Lumia 920 and start purchasing stuff :-D

AccentAE86 says:

Whoa!!  Does this mean I can use this on the WIND network in Canada?  I was a bit sad that my only option was the Lumia 810, but if there are 920 versions around that will work on WIND/Mobilicity/T-Mobile AWS networks, then I WANT!!!
Now, the other question is, will it have a different RM that won't be compatible with the regular 920 firmware updates?  I had an X7 variant (Rogers) that suffered from that problem so it's stuck on an old OS version with NO option to update.

Yes. The Nokia Lumia 920 from Rogers has already been confirmed to work on WIND.

AccentAE86 says:

BTW if any BUILD attendees want to sell their AWS supported lumia 920 units, then CONTACT ME!  Send me a PM here!
 
 

wpsoldier says:

well i got a good news for you, one of the dev is selling it on eBay! just check it out. :)

AccentAE86 says:

I just saw that. And just as quickly, someone bought it now for $1200!!! Yikes!

Well, the Lumia 920 from Rogers is pentaband so I am assuming that this is the same model.

xcharles718 says:

It does seem that the Roger Lumia 920 supports AWS. The phone is also sold unlocked.
I highly doubt that Nokia would make two North American versions of the same phone, thus I believe that the AT&T version of the 920 will also have AWS(albeit sold locked to AT&T).
 
Hopefully someone gets the 920 on launch day here in the U.S. and get it unlock(most likely via buying a unlock code) and but this to the test.
 
My wallet is ready :D

Rogers generally carries the same phone as AT&T so I most likely that it is the same model.

mccasive says:

A Tmobile executive told me that the 920 originally was coming to their Network but AT&T snatched the exclusive deal somewhere along the way and this deal might compel Nokia to run software on the phone to disable the AWS frequency Tmobile uses.

It doesn't matter the software. If hardware supports AWS band, we can make it work.

Xsever says:

I have the 920 from Rogers and the same bands shown in this article are listed on my box.

AccentAE86 says:

Wow this is awesome.  I might have to go out and get one!  Did you buy the unlocked version?  Do you know if the locked version differs?

For some reason the first batch from Rogers all seemed to be unlocked.

wp7USER says:

I honestly want to believe that Rogers official version of the Lumia 920 which will launch November 12 wont be pentaband. But am hoping that I'm dead wrong. Cause this is quite confusing and not making any sense.

Actually, this is nothing special.
The Nokia Lumia 920 from Rogers have pentaband and works on WIND.

snakechia says:

Still a Lumia 920

The initial batch of L920s shipped to "select" Rogers stores are, in fact, Pentaband AND factory unlocked. Whether they are in all other ways identical to the BUILD 2012 devices, however, remains to be seen. Had I known I might've suffered through another black phone... (if I managed to find one, that is)

Mohit tyagi says:

nice
 
 
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I love about you'r site is it not normal which I found about every website 
like you give every info about accessories, game, app no matter how small the news is you dilever it
which is different from normal and normal is boring
 
 
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darkdessert says:

would anyone be interested in selling their developer edtion 920 to me?

TechyMexican says:

I would be willing to give you $650 right now for it, if you are interested. 

FYI: I was at the Build conference. I am from Canada and was concerned the phone would be incompatible. At first other Nokia sales people at booths at the conference were saying that it wouldn't work on Bell, Telus, or SaskTel because those networks were CDMA. But, because those three providers have overlayed HSPA on their networks, this phone will work.
I also spoke to a Nokia developer rep after I had spoke to the sales staff. He said that the 920 given out at Build was originally a batch destined for Canada. In fact, there's a setting I recall seeing in the phone that had "CAN" specified. The rep said that was evidence of the source.

eshy says:

The phone was canadian. The default region selected was Canada. 
The CAN you saw was in settings->extras+info. It's the manufacturer model name. but that's not the strange part.
The full name is RM-820_nam_canada_246. I know the RM-xxx models don't really line up with the public naming of devices, (RM-801 and 819 were for the 800 IIRC) but it's strange to see the 920 is called 820 internally 

Right! I couldn't recall where I saw that until you pointed it out. One other thing - the Nokia developer rep also said the phone is considered a "North America unlocked phone". I took that to mean it was configured to blanket the continent and have service continent-wide.

TJWINS says:

What is really nice is that this phone is future proof on T-Mobile USA since they are rolling out LTE on 1700/2100 MHZ AWS spectrum in 2013. So not only will you get 42MB/sec HSPA+ now but you will also get LTE whenever tmo lights it up!

BlackbirdArg says:

Anybody knows where i can download that rom (RM-820_nam_canada_246) thanks!

amitpatankar says:

I know this post is old now, but can anyone help me find the product code for the build lumia 920? I need it to identify the ROM on the nokia servers via the nokia care suite application.
 
Thank you!