YouTube Access and Windows Phone: Microsoft throws down the gauntlet

This one has been brewing for a while and it seems that the rhetoric is now stepping up as Microsoft and Google prepare to do battle. The stage has been set and much of the coming drama will focus on Windows Phone.

Microsoft has today written publically about Google’s direct refusal to open up YouTube access so that Windows Phone users can easily use the service when mobile, something we first reported back in March 2011. The plot thickens when we learn that Microsoft has a high quality YouTube app ready to release. Don’t be evil, read on past the break to find out more.

In the lengthy post released today Dave Heiner wrote about Microsoft’s on-going concerns about Google’s misconduct on a number of issues. Here are some of the key points relating to how this is affecting Windows Phone.

“In 2010 and again more recently, Google blocked Microsoft’s new Windows Phones from operating properly with YouTube. Google has enabled its own Android phones to access YouTube so that users can search for video categories, find favourites, see ratings, and so forth in the rich user interfaces offered by those phones. It’s done the same thing for the iPhones offered by Apple, which doesn’t offer a competing search service.

Unfortunately, Google has refused to allow Microsoft’s new Windows Phones to access this YouTube metadata in the same way that Android phones and iPhones do. As a result, Microsoft’s YouTube “app” on Windows Phones is basically just a browser displaying YouTube’s mobile Web site, without the rich functionality offered on competing phones. Microsoft is ready to release a high quality YouTube app for Windows Phone. We just need permission to access YouTube in the way that other phones already do, permission Google has refused to provide.”  - Dave Heiner Vice President & Deputy General Counsel, Microsoft

“We just need permission to access YouTube in the way that other phones already do, permission Google has refused to provide.”

I recently wrote in length on the situation with a lack of Google Apps and services for Windows Phone. While I argued that many of the services are simply not needed there remain gaps where Microsoft does not offer a competing offering. One such example and source of much discussion was that of YouTube, the official app from Microsoft is not only weak it was recently rendered non-working by API changes.We do have capable replacements but they are all regularly broken by these changes and it’s disastrous for the many users who wish to access the service. 

YouTube Access and Windows Phone: Microsoft throws down the gauntlet

Google is a web company and so it is natural to think that its services should be easily accessible with the built in HTML 5 compliant Internet Explorer. Sadly we also see examples of requests for certain pages to be redirected back to the Google landing page. There is much to suggest that Google sees Windows Phone as a natural competitor to its market share in mobile due to the similarities in how the OS is delivered through independent manufacturers.

"Microsoft is ready to release a high quality YouTube app for Windows Phone.."

Even under the scrutiny of regulators in the US and the EU, Google continue to actively deny Microsoft fair access to their services on Windows Phone. The recent post from Microsoft shows that they are going to peruse these incidents openly. Microsoft are highlighting Windows Phone as a key area of open denial to services but also mention patent issues and complaints about Search.

“Despite government scrutiny, Google continues to block Microsoft from offering its customers proper access to YouTube. This is an important issue because consumers value YouTube access on their phone: YouTube apps on the Android and Apple platforms were two of the most downloaded mobile applications in 2012, according to recent news reports. Yet Google still refuses to allow Windows Phone users to have the same access to YouTube that Android and Apple customers enjoy. Microsoft has continued to engage with YouTube personnel over the past two years to remedy this problem for consumers. As you might expect, it appears that YouTube itself would like all customers – on Windows Phone as on any other device – to have a great YouTube experience. But just last month we learned from YouTube that senior executives at Google told them not to enable a first-class YouTube experience on Windows Phones.” - Dave Heiner Vice President & Deputy General Counsel, Microsoft

The odd thing here is that it sounds like Google execs are blocking YouTube from providing this service to Windows Phone users. YouTube have an app for Microsoft’s Xbox 360 console and of course uses the Windows operating system as the main delivery method for all its services through its own Google Chrome browser and Internet Explorer. Why should the web advertising company feel so threatened by Windows Phone considering the currently small market share it possesses?

"But just last month we learned from YouTube that senior executives at Google told them not to enable a first-class YouTube experience on Windows Phones.."

One glaring answer for all this malice from Google could of course be their simmering rage that Microsoft is now allegedly making more money from Android than Google itself. Microsoft has been busy behind closed doors signing everyone using Android to pay royalties on each device sold. Some believe that Google should be charged with dumping their OS in the marketplace, making a product free that’s based on long held patents for which it has not paid. 

One thing is for certain, the battle between these two giants is only getting started. We would hope that some sensible agreement between the two companies can be reached before it comes to blows. As this tit for tat ramps up could we see Microsoft block Google from its operating systems? We have already seen Google drop consumer support for ActiveSync which will directly affect users and make it harder for those with Gmail accounts to use Windows Phone. As entertaining as it would be to see these two go head to head it will only hurt users in the long run.

We’d like to hear from you guys on what you think about this on-going drama and ideas for what can be done about it. Comments are now open, so sound off.

Source: Technet (Microsoft); via ZDNet Mary Jo Foley



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John20212 says:

It is surpising that the US and EU regulators were so quick to take Microsoft to court over Internet Explorer integration in Windows, yet when Google openly employs anti-competitive practices nothing happens.
I would love to see Microsoft block all google services in Windows, that would be entertaining to watch. I have already switched my emails from gmail to hotmail/outlook, fuck google and everything that comes from them, they are privacy violating data mining peaces of dung.

tgr42 says:

"Nothing happens" - not quite.  The FTC and EU have been investigating Google.  Search for Google EU and you'll find plenty of articles about it.

FunGuy13 says:

Only great things I use from Google is YouTube and on occasion Google Maps...I am well aware the extreme datamining/malware techniques Google uses when you avail yourself of one of their services which is why I will never use Gmail...I'm pretty much embedded in the MSFT ecosystem of Hotmail/Outlook.com, Skydrive, XBox Music/Games, MS Office with my Windows 7 high-performance 18.4" laptop, Surface RT tablet and WP 7.5...MSFT offers a superior ecosystem.

You're so right and I do exactly the same. You must have quite a PC in that case. Mine isn't quite as elaborate, but it is Windows 8 with and SSD and i7, cant ask much more than that

Dragone says:

What is Google ?

Ed Bayliss says:

Will NEVER buy another Google product as of today.

atkulp says:

Microsoft had dug their own hike here. They are charging ridiculous license fees for Android to discourage handset makers from using it and Google is getting back at them the only way they can. Perhaps Google is offering to "license" YouTube use on "fair terms" and MS needs to just suck up and pay it. You can't have it both ways!

WinFan1 says:

if they were ridiculous oems would not have agreed to pay it. stealing IP is not ok and microsoft did things right by not blocking products.

Darth Lumia says:

This is the reason I'm switching the family from Gmail to Outlook.com. FU Google.

daguila29 says:

not uninstalling Chrome but have bing as my default search engine :) 

Wait, you can do that on chrome?

AneticsUK says:

I think MS should release a patch for all windows operating systems that limits chrome's abilities (see how google likes it when the shoe is on the other foot) but it basically appears that the growth of windows phone is making google a tad nervous...

sbwright says:

Go ahead Microsoft turn off all of Google aps on windows, we can do without them for awhile it won't take long for them to bend

dentaku.web says:

Some people here have said that MS should start their own video service. I guess nobody remembers Soapbox?
They HAD a video service for a while but I guess it was too much trouble to keep up and just let youtube take over that market. I doubt MS wants the headache of running another video service.

Google is definitely abusing it's power in this case.

Ian Too says:

The point of this of course, is to crush WP before it becomes a serious competitor, but I think it's too late. The buzz about the Lumia 920 is getting through and iPhone users where I work are talking about Apple losing their edge in comparison to Nokia.

AneticsUK says:

Lets face it, youtube is googles last card to play, if MS really wanted to they could build a far superior service, but then google would probably run to their lawyers with their pet lips out, the be al and end all is that googles scared, youtube is the only thing they have left, MS, its time to flex ur muscles ;-)

Baconator says:

Oh no! Soapbox2 ... Lol

Quin 2013 says:

This battle hurts the users. People can say oh this company sucks, and this company is better.

Bullshit! What ever platform it is, it is a preference choice of how content is being displayed. The apps is a helpful tool, much as web browser is.

I think both companies are being stupid and start working things out. This isn't a one on one thing, I'm ready to jump ship to a company that does look out for their customers and not ots personal gain.

Shame on Microsoft and Google for getting into a personal fight and not consider how this is effecting customers that use both products. It's childish behavior!

AneticsUK says:

So you think MS should lay down and let google abuse their power? If the same limitations were present on apple and others then fair enough, but this is an attack on MS.

Quin 2013 says:

There is no need for that, have you ever had to make a compromise with some one?

Do you know that both companies could be winners by compromising?

CommonBlob says:

Politics should not exist in open software, but that's google. They masquerade as this empowering, open company for the people, but at the end of the day they are an advertising company who only want to sell you stuff you don't want. At least Microsoft try to get you to buy their stuff and apple just expect you to.

andrewq911 says:

We don't need google... They can go to hell, and take their janky android with them.

dortyboy says:

Fuck Google! I hate using google anyways.

hyderaly says:

I can kind of understand google's gripe with MS. How many of us use google search on our WP devices. Heck, how many of us using Windows 8 use Google for first search. I increasingly find that i only google where Bing fails. Yahoo is powered by Bing, Altavista is powered by Yahoo. If MS is attacking the jugular of Google (search), Google has no choice but to use all its pawns. I see a bloody battle in the future... And i would rather MS win - they have not abused my privacy in last 25 years as much as Google has done in the last 5. I hate Sneaky Snoopers... And Google shares the double O's with snooper.

Keith Porria says:

Yeah last time I checked I use bing on my windows phone and windows 8 laptop. Integration FTW :)

FunGuy13 says:

Agreed. Google's extreme data mining practices I would consider them a malware organization.

pr0phecy says:

Google can kiss my behind.

style2k12 says:

its verry simple .
google is digging their own grave if the ygo one .
if google refuse ti give ms acces in the end ms wil use cash to make /promote their own thing and in teh end that is gonna win. purely through the fact that there wil be more devices around then any google devices if you count phones/tablets and especialy desktop/laptop pc's. cause if ms make their video service standard and integrated in windows 8 people will in a while forget youtube even existed..
if google just allow ms google wil there till the end of times ..
besides that if it comes to european and us courts google wil be forced to let ms have access . also happned with browser choice for windows .. the same wil happen to google

Maybe Microsoft should go full fledge Vimeo?

phatboy66 says:

Nobody uses Vimeo common

cedarlog says:

yet some people still want google services in windows phone
F google

Don't make Microsoft angry. You wouldn't like them when they are angry. -Bruce Banner.

msualum says:

I second all of that! DO NO EVIL!!!

Being using 3rd party YT apps and its getting really old that they change something and now my app doesnt play anything without having to repeatedly press play to get it going it giving up completely until the devs patch the app.

pegg says:

Its like what Apple did to Flash...not nice :/

Alcarnor14 says:

I'm sure Google will make some nice native apps once WinPhone gets more market share. Given they're an advertising company, they will want more eyeballs on their ads. 

jdubdoubleu says:

Who cares, I have METRO TUBE.

Well metrotube is great but they suffer same down times when google decides to change something and metrotube stops working til its updated.

Alex Kj says:

Using browser to go to www.youtube.com will still work (however inconvenient it may be for some).

jgraves4480 says:

I say Microsoft just buy YouTube from google! Or run chrome and route it to WP.

WinFan1 says:

how quickly do you think google will sell youtube? thats a nonsensical notion, just the amount of traffic on youtube is enough to keep it from selling it to anyone let alone microsoft.

RyanDaLyon says:

Google would die if Microsoft made it where it wouldn't work on its OS's. I wish Microsoft had something to pull from them other than the OS support. I guess they could take all MS made apps out of the google play store, and ban google services from the OS. The chromebook would not save scroogle, and then google and rim become best buds once and for all.

lippidp says:

Yes, Google has been evil ever since they started parsing through people's email. That is inexcusable and unacceptable. I don't watch YouTube much, so fuckem. If you want to stick it to Google, just cut your YouTube time in half and NEVER sign in. If everyone did this Google would feel a world of hurt.

WinFan1 says:

thats something i never understood about android and google users in general. why would anyone ever blindly look away from a practice like that. instagram is now following such invasive practices and its not something that should just be accepted.

lippidp says:

Also, NEVER click a Google ad anywhere. Never click their sponsored search results, either. This hurts Google while also saving money for the site you're going to.

Solo_wing says:

Well I say F * google , I stopped using google services since August.
I use Bing , outlook , IE , sky drive .
Sadly I can't find a worthy YouTube competitor.
Google's main purpose is gaining money , look how they F * ed up YouTube with the Ad S***

Microsoft should start playing hard ball maybe? Pulling exchange and ability for office stuff to open on androids, etc. Microsoft has alot of pull.

All this does is suck for the end user who gets screwed.

Xanthurum says:

For me it seems like Google is getting more and more afraid of WP8! And they should be! Apple - Samsung the other way?

So pathetic. It only means MORE FUCKING DOWNLOADS FOR THEM. Nothing bad could possibly come of it, they're being little pussy ass babies about this, unreal. Little girls with their tampons n shit. Get with the program its fucking 2013. They just look dumb and are hurting users of their own products. Now I WILL switch to Bing. Cocksuckers.

poddie says:

Exactly. FunkyCricket does not understand that situation at all... Ms has no case against Google for the patents because they don't "sell" Android.

Jazmac says:

I say CRIPPLE Google's Chrome Browser functionality on ALL MS products including search results. Do it NOW.  I think Apple should also cripple Google Chrome browser functionality as well.

ltjordan24 says:

   Screw google. Microsoft should just buy a competing service like Dailymotion and push them like they do Bing.

richmed says:

I think it would be a good come back to use the great percent of Windows PCs, phones and now tablets and block all Google Chrome, Google Search Engine and YouTube results from a search, since all have become what they are as a result of a Windows PC user.

Oh man..this is getting interesting.. I would like to see Microsoft go big with a counter

bhinesley says:

Solution: Don't use Google Don't use Google services.  Go read Googled: The End of the World As We Know It. by Ken Auletta.  Yeah, they've got some great products, but damn are they arrogant.  Don't be evil, my ass.

odoggyfresh says:

as nice as it would be to say we have a solid, official youtube app, metrotube is everything you need

gman1868 says:

Great article. Buh-bye google. What else should we expect from a company run by hipsters? I've cancelled all my google accounts.

blasher4 says:

Amen brother. I'm a Binger now. I haven't Googled anything in a long time

blasher4 says:

Why can't companies make decisions based on consumer business? WE are the ones paying for the devices, applications, waiting around for simple shit like a good functioning YouTube app. Its not about the people anymore. Greed speaks loudly in the world of business.

blasher4 says:

I love these Anti-Google comments! I've disliked Google for awhile now.

ShaunKL says:

This is stupid.

Bobby Bob says:

I think the part about a senior Google Executive telling YouTube not to play fair with Windows Phone is an indirect threat from Microsoft... I think they have evidence of this, or they would not publicaly accuse them of doing so...

aubreyq says:

"I think they have evidence of this, or they would not publicaly accuse them of doing so..."


uopjo6 says:

Looks like I'm gonna have to take you off my outllook account too gmail. No more syncing. F Google. 

Jojogill says:

Microsoft should make a YouTube competitor and push it hard as they have done with Bing.

phatboy66 says:

This battle is really not good for the industry and it will only hurt us, the users.

Dear MS,
What goes around comes around
PS Not a google fan

WinFan1 says:

goes around comes around in what regard? microsoft has done nothing but be vital to the growth of google in the first place.

phatboy66 says:

If Google decided one day to block the Youtube app on Xbox 360, I cant even imagine what Apocalypse it would cause. This story is a big deal

jarthurk says:

That's it. I now officially hate Google more than Apple.

WinFan1 says:

LOOOL i been thinking that as well. apple has less hate from me than google does now. so +1 for that

Arpan J says:

Screw you google...

Arostino says:

You may use https://duckduckgo.com/
I do not know about Bing, here some insight about Google and the search.... http://donttrack.us/
Better drop Google...

Xe Duong says:

Ok I've been a long time Microsoft PC user. Google came around and made searching easier. That I have to give it to them. Since switching from iphone 4 to lumia 920, Bing has been my new permanent search engine and I love it. That's what got google acting like a kid. Not willing to share. Hey Google sharing is caring. Haha. They know Bing is big competition. YouTube is awesome but if google keeps acting like the way they are. Then I'm just gonna stop using any of their services and I know there are a lot of users feeling the same way. Im never gonna give up my precious cyan Lumia for any of there generic crapware phones

Baconator says:

Microsoft isn't one that likes to share either. Sure they like others to share with them but not usually the other way around. Let me know when Microsoft makes Halo, or any other Microsoft game available on a competing platform.

djctz says:

Windows Phone needs more support

MattLFC says:

This is why I use BING. Id have an iPhone before I'd touch an Android device, for the simple reason, Google are the biggest assholes in the industry right now.

paulm187 says:

YouTube only Google service i still use. Its a shame it got bought out by Google and now its just adware, where i have to spend half the time removing the blasted adds on the video before i could view it.

Santpreet says:

I stay in India and am anxiously waiting for Lumia 920's launch since the day it was announced.
I'm not heavily dependent on youtube for my video content thankfully. But this whole thing sucks.
I created an outlook account days after the mail service was launched and I absolutely fell in love with the neat & clean & slick interface that falls in line with the win 8 design philosophy. And unlike Google, no pestering ads on the sides. The entire screen for your perusal. It just looks so neat. Currently loving MS' rendition of software.
Google can suck it. GMAIL on web browser anyways feels very cluttered unlike the old times when it gave users a clutter free interface.
All these companies are forgetting that it was their symbiotic relationship that brought such rapid advancements in the field of smartphones and has contributed to their growth in some way or the other. Nobody wants to be stuck up on any single particular company's ecosystem. Hope they come out with an amicable solution soon.
As for Google, your image has drastically gone down in the eyes of many a people. Your brand credibility will be hurt if MS decides to go with blazing guns all over the media. And instead of resorting to monopolistic means, try and improve your products so that people automatically adopt them, like MS did with Win 8 - complete overhaul of all their services. They did a commendable job and I respect them for that.

From today onwards, i'll switch over from google to bing search. That's the only google service i used heavily. This is my way of unsupporting google. And once I buy a 920, I will be accustomed to Bing Search.
I also am not a fan of chrome. I find IE10 and Mozilla to be way much better. Hoping firefox comes out with a WP8 version of the browser as well. The android browser is fantastic.
As of now, i'm gonna stick with outlook, skydrive, bing and other MS services. Hope MS continues with the same design philosophy in the time to come.

zammi says:

Simple truth is, Google is back firing MS....
This war was started by MS charging from Android device manufacturers.
End of the they we are suffering.

ladydias says:

Run that by me again? MS is at fault because they demanded to get paid for the stuff they patented? How is it their fault that the android manufacturers all jumped on the free OS bandwagon and decided they didn't have to pay their dues like every other company on the planet has to do, especially in the tech business?

WinFan1 says:

plus one to ladydias cuz she is awesome ;). i agree wholeheartedly ms is not at fault for getting paid for something they own. If people think that because google android oems now have to pay for something they should have been paying for, for a long time no less is wrong on ms' end then you'r sorely mistaken.

Eddie_Lomax says:

If Microsoft goes very public with this then they could give Google an ultimatum, either fix their problems, or get their products and services effected in the same way on Windows.
At that point when Chrome becomes flakey and their search product cookies are being auto disabled maybe they'd be reasonable, although no doubt it will then be the evil Microsoft at fault :P

WilliamC1972 says:

Can Microsoft completely remove Google from its desktop OS? Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8? If so, they should do it.

WinFan1 says:

they could but that only hurts users in the long run.

aubreyq says:

They would NEVER do such thing. Microsoft was hit hard by the US and the EU for antitrust practices. They won't walk that line again.

jasonxz says:

Are these people in charge of Congress?

XRedXIIIX says:

I love corporate battles for some reason

NJKevin says:

Why does Google not also trample Apple?
Heck, Apple tried to screw Google on the Maps thing, but Google embraced their return.
Apple is much more of a threat to Android than Microsoft is ... unless Google thinks they can kill WP before it gets real legs.  Once Google kills WP, they can turn their attention to dismembering Apple iOS.
Content is king, and I suspect Google thinks it holds all the cards against BOTH MS and Apple.
In other words, Google is winning the mobile OS war, and they are fighting from a position of strength.

wize72 says:

I spent a couple of hours yesterday moving my contacts/email/calendar from google to outlook.com on my new Lumia 920. All my gmail emails are now automatically forwarded to my @outlook.com. Will still be using youtube on my MBP as there are no valid alternatives but MetroTube does the job on my Lumia.

DeacoN_Jo says:

Actually 3rd party Apps such as "MetroTube" , TubePro and others are more than enough and very satisfiying ,, and i think that most of the users here tend to agree ,, cause as a an Everyday Normal user of WP ; You kinda don't care wheather the App You're ussing is "Native" or not , as long as it provides You with a GreaT experiance ,,, so in that manner ; I believe that ( MetroTube ) in particular is a Fantastic app wihich delivers a satisfying "YouTube" experience overall .

Oddly enough, my actions in preparation for Gmail's EAS shutdown seem to have improved battery life. Gmail is now a pinned folder in my outlook.com inbox and every response from that folder comes from outlook. Bye Gmail...

deloa84 says:

I use to be an early fan of Google and its products but now I find I am disliking their ways. I will sign the petition to get Google's apps on WP but I for one will do my best to minimize my use of google. Goodbye Gmail and hello Outlook.

razorguy says:

I use Chrome on all my PC's and my installed it for friends and family so I think I'll uninstall them all and the little survey thing afterward that asks you why I will use this attack on MS as my reasoning. If enough people do it then it could make an impact.

snakechia says:

Such a childish cum idiot google !

NJKevin says:

I have wp7, android, wife has iPhone.

I can use Google Drive on EITHER android or iPhone ... open a new doc or edit an old one ... since it is cloud-based, it is on all devices, including my Windows XP computer (with Drive installed).
I cannot use SkyDrive in the same way - not even WP-to-PC, because I have XP - SkyDrive software is for Vista or newer.
Microsoft is shooting themselves in the foot. Google Drive is more backward compatible with MS PC O/S that Microsoft's own SkyDrive.
Microsoft should step up and COMPETE ... 

RobbCab says:

I urge everyone offended by Google's actions to uninstall Chrome Browser from their PC and in the "Describe Yourself" and "Why are you uninstalling Google Chrome" boxes insert the following:
Your childish and consumer unfriendly tactics in dealing with your competition. Especially the end of EAS support for GMail and lack of native apps for Windows 8/Windows Phone. I am deleting/discontinuing use of all of your services and software until this behavior changes. I started using Google products/services because of your open and cross-platform solutions, and will gladly do so when you return to those ideals.
Oh, and make sure you check the Internet Explorer box under "What browser will you be using"
Doubtfull it will accomplish anything, but just maybe, if Google gets enough feedback like this they will remember why people flocked to them in the first place.

ericr42 says:

My microsoft account is a gmail address.  Is there any easy way to change that without having to basically start over with my Windows Phone?  I already have gmail just forwarding everything to my outlook address but would love to eliminate it completely.
I'm stuck with Google Voice for now as there is no real alternative.  I use YouTube so little I didn't even notice that the "app" was a web page shortcut for months ;-).

FredW3 says:

Maybe Microsoft could pull the plug on an API that Chrome uses.

aztec12 says:

I think that Windows is really making a comeback with it's operating system and now with their cell phones and Google is really noticing. Google is just been greedy.
Windows is making a comeback,also Blackberry is on it's way back, so Google is noticing.

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MULLINS Urr says:

Dont't be EVIL!?!?

Baconator says:

I was reading these comments and some people make it seem like YouTube is blocked on Windows Phone, well its not just type YouTube.com in IE and you can see its not blocked. Yes WP doesn't have an official YT app and I bet that sucks but you have to work with what you got. Microsoft is just being a cry baby. You can't have it all, I don't see Google crying because Apple won't make an iTunes app for Android and isnt iTunes the largest music store? (I might be wrong on that.) Sony isn't crying because Halo isn't available for the PS3. Oh but when Microsoft doesn't get what it wants they have to make a show out of it correct? The last time I checked I didn't see Office available on Android, should that be an antitrust investigation? Of course not! I like the way this user put it in his comment on The Verge:
"Does Samsung complain about not having YouTube on Bada or Tizen? There is no iTunes for Windows RT should Microsoft complain about that too? I can’t use BBM on my Nexus 4 should Google notify FTC?

Seriously you guys need to chill…"

Google is under no obligation to provide access to their private APIs, and neither is Microsoft for that matter. YouTube is freely accessible on IE10 or any other standards compliant mobile browser, so I don't see the problem. Also Microsoft has a small mobile market share (Windows Mobile+WP is down to 3% in November in the US), so it's normal that Google itself doesn't care about developing for any of these platforms. If you don't like it, either don't use YouTube or change your mobile platform. I hear the iPhone or Android are pretty good, with plenty of apps, including native YouTube apps. You can Bing it, it's true.

NJKevin says:

Microsoft needs to support the PC-based SkyDrive app on Windows XP.

Google supports Drive on XP.

lowry says:

<p>F*** Google. I am tired of being their product instead of a customer.&nbsp;</p>

SergeMcG says:

I'm moving away from Google, this is one of a series of great disappointments. I strongly advice anyone to get their custom URL and become free from any providers.
Also remember the Google Apps: typical "bait and switch" commercial model. One day they might come to you and ask you money just for your ...@gmail account. Prepare now.. 

Oh my goodness Google you are so very corrupt as an IT industry goes. IM glad Google recently got fined £20 million recently for not paying their taxes. Scamming so and so's. Google never used to be like this. Too much power corrupts services, industry and people. Microsoft should ban google services on their products and see how Google like that. Microsoft rules. Glad im 100% in their eco system. Never ever again using google search, Bing is more accurate anyways. Like someone said, I wouldn't use youtube if there was an alternative. Apple are as worse as google, as regards not paying their taxes ect. Seams to me that Microsoft is the only company in this sector that one can trust. Apple are constantly suing companies over utter nonsense. Apple trying to enforce a ban on Samsung phones an tablets for no other reason than that they are outselling Apple. Yeah, that really plausible.

msualum says:

Ok - late to the party but I have a concept. MS should buy Netflix or Hulu and move Bing video to that platform for actual recognition. YouTube is trying to break into the actual video rental. That is where they want to head. I think MS could take an established video / movie rental site and have free access for uploads / viewing of personal stuff. They need to do something...

Jabarkas says:

Google should allow official WP youtube app and Microsoft should allow google instead of Bing on its search button. That is the "gauntlet" I'm looking for.

DavidinCT says:

This is an old video...but, worth viewing...
This is a another sign that google is trying to take over the world. Think about it....They could be. !!!!
Dam, I know Metrotube is there but, I really wanted a bad ass Microsoft Youtube app....because that would be epic...

Landsharkk says:

The only google services I use are Youtube and Chrome.  I'd drop chrome in a heartbeat, but I can't find as good of an AdBlock for IE or Firefox (the Chrome adBlock is awesome, blocks all ads including in-video ads).  
Other than that, yeah google is taking the chidish route here.  Since I own and use a Windows Phone AND google services, they are hurting their own customers with this choice.

deankaltsas says:

i am officially going to the next new nokia phone....  google is trying to pull an apple on everyone and it's pissin me off! 

That's very odd, is Google now becoming the troll company?
Boycott, anyone?

I agree with you 400% on this
Google is being a bad competitor.

the1casey1 says:

MS should block google apps from windows, then use that as leverage to get google's stuff on windows phones.
FYI, I am a long time gmail and google product user.  As of yesterday I have migrated everything to outlook and other ms products.  I am sick of google giving windows phone users the shaft.

tehPeng says:

I know it might be a bit late to imput my comment but anyway, I happen to be a HUGE Google user - im even signed in through G+ to comment here. Before the lumia 920 came along, i had zero intention of switching to windows phone. I was perfectly happy with my nexus device (that is, until i bricked it) and after it broke, i decided to check out wp8, after enjoying Windows 8 so much. I think its truly messed up that Google is doing this to us WP users. they had aid at one point "we wont offer our services to windows phone because we dont have too many customers on windows phone"

well of course you dont, its because little by little you're cutting off our access to your services. If they TRULY want us to pick ides, then im going Microsoft all the way on this. Its rediculous and coming from google, this is very childish behavior.

Microsoft cant block all Google Services on Windows as most of their customers would want to use google services like Chrome. What they could do is limit the functionality of these programs or program Windows to automatically crash Chrome every now and then.

Microsoft should continue to let their services work with google.. If google wants to act like a child and hurt users then Microsoft needs to be the bigger person and hold out! Google will lose in the end