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Forcing the Windows Phone 7.8 update: Camera button not required but patience is

If you've checked your Windows Phone 7.5 device for the 7.8 update with no success, you may want to try to force the process, just as we did with other Windows Phone updates like Mango.

This is a little different than downloading and installing Windows Phone 7.8 manually, which we reported on earlier. With this method you're basically tricking the Microsoft servers to recognize your Windows Phone and initiating the update early. Think of it as cutting in line (and Microsoft is okay with this, no worries).

The other benefit with this method (versus the CAB one) is it means you are getting the official carrier/OEM update that usually includes the firmware too. If using just CABs you are updating the OS but not any device specific software. That's not a bad thing but it's really not ideal. 

 

How to

Forcing requires patience and the ability to disconnect your computer from the internet. Make sure you have the Wifi and your data connection turned off on your Windows Phone and connect to Zune.  Go to settings and check for an update and as soon as you click the "Update" link in the settings you'll need to disconnect from the internet.

Let Zune come back and tell you that it can't check for an update right now, reconnect to the internet and you should see that an update is now available. Timing seems to be key and it may take you a few tries to get things just right (took me six tries).  From there you follow along with the update wizard and your Windows Phone is updated.

Windows Phone Updates

If this trick doesn't work, it likely means that the update files for your device aren't out there on the servers yet to be installed.  We were successful in forcing the update on the AT&T Nokia Lumia 900 but couldn't get the HTC HD7S to update.  When all was said and done, the Windows Phone version ended up being 7.10.8858.136.

Interesting note on the 7.8 update is that it provides support for devices without a camera button. More than likely this is for future low-end devices like the Alcatel One Touch where the lack of a camera button will keep production costs down.  You may see this in a smaller update that installs before the 7.8 update goes through.

 

Step by step instructions to force the Windows Phone 7.8 update

  1. Connect your Windows Phone to a PC and launch the Zune software
  2. Click on Phone > Settings > Update. Allow the software to tell you whether an update is available. If so, skip this guide. If not continue to the next step.
  3. Time to force the update. Click another button (any of the options above or below the word Update). Then click the Update button again, and this time disconnect your computer from the internet after 1-2 seconds. Do this by pulling out the Ethernet cable, disabling Wi-Fi, etc. If it says your phone is already up to date, you didn't disconnect quickly enough and need to try this step again.
  4. Wait 30 seconds or so and Zune should display a notification that an update is available.
  5. Now reconnect to the internet and continue with the update process through the Zune software.
  6. Depending on what OS build you are starting with, you may be prompted for several OS updates
  7. Let the phone update and wait. The final OS build is 8858. If you are getting just 8779, you'll want to repeat 1-4 above
  8. You may also be prompted to install a firmware update at the very end, follow through with this
  9. Celebrate! The whole process, including backup could take up to 60 minutes. Check that you are on build 8858 to see if you are done.

 

What if this method just doesn't work?

This won't work for every Windows Phone out there, only those that are officially designated for the 7.8 update, so your experience will vary.

If you don't get the update, it can mean one of two things.

  1. Your software update is literally not on Microsoft's servers for your phone/carrier. Try again in a few days.
  2. Your update may never come.

On the second point, we're not too confident generation one devices or Sprint's Arrive will ever "officially" get this update, which is why try as they might this method will never work. For you folks, you'll have to do the more tricky manual CAB method.That will do the job but obviously it won't include any firmware. C'est la vie.

Let us know in the comments if you've had success with the forcing trick to get the update.

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xconomicron says:

that is because no one on ATT but the L900 got the update today.  We still have to wait for the US carriers to push out the update. 

It is exactly what MS said.  It all depends on whether your carrier will support the update or not. 

asna_n800 says:

Over an hour and you are giving up? My zune keeps telling me numerous errors of connectivity and I tried for about 8 hours continuously. Still working on!!! Zune can't check for updates if phone's wifi is off. Much odd thing. And I've a wireless USB modem. Figuring it out :/

bkbillma says:

no love on my ATT Titan

Viperise152 says:

I could not get it to force update this way. I did get mine to update using the cab sender method.

gp0777 says:

After many tries, it worked!!! I have an unlocked Lumia 900 with TMo. I removed the SIM card and it worked for me then. The timing to disconnect is also a factor. I clicked "update", right-clicked my network sharing icon and then disconnected the NIC cable. (Win7) That's what worked for me. (I only right-clicked on the network sharing icon to try and disconnect the internet that way but realized it would take too long so I unplugged) However long that is, that is what is needed to trick it. Hope this helps somebody. :)

Daniel_H_UK says:

My Freind tried this and only got a Firmware update (shown in the first screenshot) the 7.8 update hasnt come through

bronzekid91 says:

NY ATT Lumia 900 . Im going to keep trying , got my data and wifi on phone off .

I gave up. Forgot I had data enabled! Trying again now!

Bernardo Gza says:

Lumia 800 Mexico not working yet, not even with cable trick :(

Oceloth says:

Estuve como 1 hora con un lumia 710 y por fin pude actualizar al primer update despues de 1 hora no te desanimes hombre que si se puede
Tengo telcel como operador
Saludos :)

Oceloth says:

asi es ahorita apenas voy por el segundo update estoy desactivando mi internet wifi ya que estoy conectado mediante el despues de dar click a actualizar pasa un segundo y lo desactivo mediante la tecla de funcion y la tecla especial para apagar el wifi suerte :)

Bernardo Gza says:

tuve que quitarle hasta el SIM para jalara jajajaja Gracias !!!

Diego Amador says:

de que compañia es tu equipo?, alguien ha logrado actualizar un iusacell 710?

Diego Amador says:

listo lumia 710 iusacell
sin embargo parece que el HTC Radar no se deja

Alex Papuc says:

In about 20 minutes i succeded,updating right now! Greets from Italy!

Got my update on my HTC HD7 in Switzerland...unlocked of course...did not disconnect WiFi tho, but it worked...took me only like 20 minutes :D

schlubadub says:

Unlocked, unbranded or both?

AneticsUK says:

I can confirm that both the mozart 7 and nokia 710 on orange uk CAN be tricked. Ps. The nokia's timing needs to be a casual 3 seconds "ish" persist and it will work :-)

mottle says:

Wouh, that was strange. As I Opened this article in the WP central App the popup with the notification for the update come in. I first thought that the article forced my update :)

I didn't expect it so early on my HTC trophy with Vodafone German branding.

Hey it works =) , for all the people that have  a telcel i just updated my 710 to 7.8 =P so the cable trick works perfectly .

Bernardo Gza says:

not working for me :( well I haven an unlucked one but I am with telcel.

Worked perfectly on my Optimus 7 on Telus.   This was my old phone with no SIM in it though.   Had to go through 2 older updates but it finally did 7.8.   Runs well.   Moving around tiles isn't as smooth as my 8x but that is to be expected.  Otherwise it runs great for what I tried. 

kh_boy says:

Just updated my HTC Radar which I bought outright. I didn't have to do this trick to get the update. After connecting my handset to Zune, it went straight to the update page. =)

meq222 says:

what ?? no way! using mac connector?
 

OMG it worked for me!!!! updating as I type! i counted to 15 seconds before turning wifi off though 0.o

Bernardo Gza says:

YEEESSS LUMIA 800 MEXICO NOW UPDATING THANKS !!!!

Saeds says:

any news to hd7 t-mobile ??

Oceloth says:

Ok cable trick its working in mexico for telcel :)

dalydose says:

Thanks for the tip. Worked like a charm. My "old" 900 is updated.  It was a trusty backup since I bricked my 920 and had to get a warranty exchange and now it is restoring which is taking a LONG time.  I'm having 2nd thoughts about selling my 900 now.  It's a great backup and it works well with Zune and ALL my music and playlists. 

BugZau says:

Yes my Focus unlock (917R) now updating Canada
did some body know what is the 7.10.8779.8 update is? I did not have the new tile, no accent...

fpostrow says:

You should see 3 updates as part of the 7.8 update with your Focus.
7.10.8779.8
7.10.8783.12
7.10.8858.136
The last update brings the new start screen tiles and features. Be patient and try again if you haven't already.

Duke178 says:

Updated Lumia 900 UK  earlier, have just down loaded Nokia Bluetooth app, which now works.  Got the QR code from WP Central previous articles.  All good.  Ring tone Maker still not working.

AO_ says:

Got it to work after half a dozen attempts on a HTC 7 Pro in the UK. Thanks for the tip :)

fishsniffer2 says:

Your instuctions worked the first time hurrah! Had to be done twice to get the right firmware just like you said. I'm in CA 
Lumia 900 ATT unlocked,Will sell it for $300, just pop in your simcard with any gsm provider,cyan phone in new condition.

allos autos says:

Worked for my wife's LG Optimus 7 on TELUS and my old Samsung Focus on Rogers.

fpostrow says:

Which Focus version did you update? That's encouraging if the Focus got the update as well.

Dmitry Taur says:

I've tried with my Focus on Rogers, didn't work! :(

Rodimus74 says:

I give up.  Doesn't help that my update time can be anything from 5 seconds to 1:16.  I wish MS/Telco's would realise the stupid lengths we are all going to to simply update our phones in a reasonable time frame!!!

fpostrow says:

Dude, this is like day 1 of a multi device, multi week roll out. Be patient and your device will tell you when it's ready. Or, if you are not the patient type, jump through the hoops.

xmarklive says:

HTC radar if you can here me please update yourself.....lol

Was anyone able to get a Verizon HTC Trophy to update? I had no luck.

I've had no luck with mine.  I hope the Trophy (on Verizon) gets the update soon.

PolishHitta says:

Ok I'm officially announcing Trophy doesn't have an update avaliable. Since I've heard EU versions of the phone went through I swapped out my sim for a European one, changed the region settings on my phone as well as PC, disabled locations on my phone and hoped for the best. It seems like the update is designed for the European version of Trophy aka"Spark."  My guess is that were gonna be last to get the update since Verizon is one of the few i know that has phones run under CDMA, and that will require a tweak or two.

jmagwp says:

I must be dense. The instructions are conflicting. I'm trying to update my HTC Titan on AT&T.
The first set of instructions say to unplug your computer from the Internet and wait for Zune to give you an error that it can't connect. Then reconnect to the Internet and it should tell you there is an update. But Zune needs an instruction to tell it to look again, no? I get nothing when I plug back into the Internet.
In the second set of instructions, #4, it says that Zune will tell you an update is available, not that it will give you an error message as was indicated in the first set of instructions.
So I'm confused. I have data and wi-fi off on the phone. I connect the phone to Zune, it starts looking for an update, I unplug from the Internet, I get an error that Zune can't connect right now try later. I reconnect to the Internet and Zune just sits there.
Any tips?

scdkad says:

Pretty sure this ATT update is Lumia 900 only-unless someone can show me where it says its for all 7.5 devices..

xconomicron says:

No you are correct. Only the L900 on ATT got the update today...people who try the zune trick are only wasting their time and causing frustration for themselves.

...if only people read other comments on these posts, everyone would understand this!

schlubadub says:

False - I guess you didn't read the other comments

dubie v2 says:

^^^The instructions are conflicting. I'm trying to update my HTC Radar on T-Mobile.
The first set of instructions say to unplug your computer from the Internet and wait for Zune to give you an error that it can't connect. Then reconnect to the Internet and it should tell you there is an update. But Zune needs an instruction to tell it to look again, no? I get nothing when I plug back into the Internet.
In the second set of instructions, #4, it says that Zune will tell you an update is available, not that it will give you an error message as was indicated in the first set of instructions.
So I'm confused. I have data and wi-fi off on the phone. I connect the phone to Zune, it starts looking for an update, I unplug from the Internet, I get an error that Zune can't connect right now try later. I reconnect to the Internet and Zune just sits there.
Any tips???

nivekv says:

You are unplugging your internet too soon. Unlike the article stated, I had to give a good 5-7 seconds before unplugging.

I do that nd still the same thing except I have a Nokia Lumia 710.

DalekSnare says:

Worked on my L900 AT&T. I noticed that Zune always did the "no update" message so even with no internet it would display that. If that happens, it will never work until you fix that. Putting the phone into airplane mode fixed it for some reason. Maybe zune checks if the phone sees an update when windows can't connect. Anyway, you are on the right track if you get the "can't check for update" when you cut the internet too soon, and you get the "you have the latest" message when you are too slow. You have to catch it in between.

jmagwp says:

The problem seems to be that I have maybe a second before I get the "up to date" message.
 
Let me make sure I understand:
 
1) Turn off cellular/data, wi-fi, and maybe need to try airplane mode
2) Fire up Zune and then plug in the phone, let the first update check go through
3) Click out of Update in Zune and then click Update again while possibly simultaneously disconnecting the computer from the Interwebs
4) Hopefully Zune doesn't give you "can't connect" or "up to date" but instead the glorious "update is available"
 
Si?

noshiro21 says:

im trying to do it, but it keeps telling me that it up todate (7720).........am doing something wrong?
i have a lg quantum att...

cadeross says:

My lumia 900 att will say on the phone its self when i try to force update it. it will say on the phone update isavailable but on my computer it will say cant check for update or whatever what do i do? cause when i close out of the update is available thing on my phone it says up to date on the phone its self as well help

inked18 says:

Any word on the quantum?

lippidp says:

ATT LG Quantum successfully updated to 8779 from 8773. I had to unbrand it first and then do the Zune trick. I haven't proceeded to 8858 because Zune made a backup so I will wait a few days to make sure the phone is stable first.

noshiro21 says:

im trying to do it, but it keeps telling me that it up todate (7720).........am  doing something wrong?

sonosp says:

Nothing, I'm a veteran of the Mango Force-Update so i know what i'm doing.
My Old HTC Mozart refuses to sneak the update.... >< 

FAKNL says:

hmpf, nothing here for my old trophy

Ben Good says:

Anyone get this to work for the LG Quantum C900?

lippidp says:

ATT LG Quantum successfully updated to 8779 from 8773. I had to unbrand it first and then do the Zune trick. I haven't proceeded to 8858 because Zune made a backup so I will wait a few days to make sure the phone is stable first.

TranLePhu says:

Hi there, everyone! :) I'm in a bit of a doozy that from what I've seen from the comments, no one has experienced this issue yet. I have an AT&T Nokia Lumia 900 and because the normal update process doesn't show Windows Phone 7.8 as available yet, I resorted to forcing the update. Starting off, everything went smooth; I disconnected the internet at the right times, got the updates to pop up, and proceeded to install the update with the internet turned back on. NOW for the problem. When the update process gets to the very end (restarting your phone and completing the updates, it's a 2-step process), it resets my phone normally. However, when it gets to step 2 of 2 and says "completing updates", I immediately get an "Update Error" message that says update failed. The error code is 80070003. I tried again with Airplane Mode on, tried a third time with just Wi-Fi and Data off and my sim card removed, and my latest try was Airplane Mode on with sim card removed (my first 2 tries were with sim card inserted). Is there anyone that has experienced this issue and if so, can anyone help me get passed it? I really would love to have WP7.8. :(

@TranLePhu....
Make some available space on the phone and the computer. Your computer must have 16GB of free space.

John20212 says:

Still nothing for Samsung Focus (ATT). Anyone else had any luck with the first gen Focus?
 

thirdday2002 says:

I got it to work! Though I changed the registry a long time ago from ATT-US to ROG-CA when I got tired of at&t holding out on the disappearing keyboard fix. It was actually quite simple to change the registry. Took a couple of hours though as I recall.

fpostrow says:

Cool so the ROG-CA trick is still working for the Focus. I'll have to give that a try tonight.
 
yup, worked for both of our Focii. 1 updated without being forced, the other needed each update forced. Well worth the effort.

Shobiz says:

I gave up after 30 minutes. Try again another time

HdHunter says:

No luck updating my HTC HD 7. I was able to force the Mango update during the 1st try but I'm not feeling good about this given the latest news that HTC won't support us. I'm bummed and may say good-bye to HTC.

tbonenga says:

Have you read peoples post and the article? Plenty of people have got this on their HD7. Just not Tmobile. Hopefully soon. Not all carriers have it yet.

celtic_jim says:

Lumia 900 on AT&T and I'm stuck at 0% download for 10 minutes...anyone else having this problem?

Bernardo Gza says:

I have found that timing is crucial if you want to make to make it work with the cable trick. Here it says 3 seconds max. For me it had to be up to 8 seconds to make it work, so keep trying with 3,4,5,6,7,8 .....

Ed Boone says:

WOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!!! Working with my Lumia 800 in Canada!!!!  Took a few tries disconnecting interent, connecting/diconnecting phone but getting it right now!!!!!  Looking forward to it finishing.  After mine completes, time totry my daugter Lumia 610!!!

phatboy66 says:

Your Lumia 800 is the international version or the Telus one?

Ed Boone says:

Telus version!!

phatboy66 says:

Tried like fifteen times, doesn't work on my unlocked Rogers Lumia 900 :(

Sometimes I get an error code

bob_isme says:

BOOM!! installing now on my at&t l900. Hopefully it all goes smooth. Took me about 25 tries, but after reading the comments I let it check for updates for about 4.5 seconds then pulled the plug and it worked! If you are getting the message "cant check for updates no internet connection, blah blah blah", you pulled to early. That was my problem. But it's going now! Gonna try my old focus next

HdHunter says:

T-Mo in the USA had no comments.

TechAbstract says:

This trick works with "Airplane mode off", on Lumia 900 ATT.

mjrtoo says:

No love with my quantum after about 10 tries from step 1-10 (although, your text description and actual steps description differ, at least how I read them).
Any other Quantum users have luck?  I did it with Mango no problem...

lippidp says:

ATT LG Quantum successfully updated to 8779 from 8773. I had to unbrand it first and then do the Zune trick. I haven't proceeded to 8858 because Zune made a backup so I will wait a few days to make sure the phone is stable first.

djdoubt03 says:

Any one get AT&A Titan II to force update yet?

A few tips for people.
After much frustration it finally worked. I found that if you disconnect in time it waits for a while and then says "can't check for updates right now" before it says that, keep toggling the WiFi connection on and off. This worked for me. Hope it helps.

Ed Boone says:

I fully disabled my wifi, turned off wifi and data on phone and use wired connection on my laptop.  much easier and quicker to disconnect reconnect etc.  Also it seemed to work better unplugging my phone and reconnecting for each try

me29474 says:

running 7.8 after three updates
Slovakia - Samsung Omnia W unlocked

cdbstl76 says:

I can't get Zune to install on my Windows 8 PC. I didn't bother after I switched to the 920, but I want I update my 900 backup phone!

DalekSnare says:

Zune should install. Prerelease Win 8 had issues, but the zune installer and/or win8 fixed that since then.

godoy.rafa says:

Worked fine for my unbranded Omnia W (SGH-i677 here in Brazil).

godoy.rafa says:

Actually no, I forced the cabs.

Willowshes says:

Updating to version 7.10.8783.12 on my unlocked Lumia 800 in Venezuela. I received the update as soon as I connected it on Zune, there was no need of using the trick above. I'll have to wait until this one ends and see if i can get the last version (7.10.8858.136) automaticaly. Patience! :) 
 

lippidp says:

ATT LG Quantum updating to 8779 right now from 8773.  I had to unbrand it first and then do the trick described in this article.  There's a typo in the update.  It says "his update will:" instead of "This update will:"
 
Update was successful.  I will have to stay here for a week or two to make sure it's stable since a backup of 8773 was just taken.

OTLWtank says:

My L900 isn't pickup the update on the phone and att is no help, I thought we were first on the list how long do I have to wait

Willowshes says:

EDIT: Now i'm getting the last version (YEEEEES). Unlocked Lumia 800 in Venezuela.  

Lichtenhan says:

Update currently in progress here. Step 8 out of 10 on the Lumia 900 on ATT. I followed the step by step instructions as it is in the article with the addtion of turning on airplane mode first. it wouldn't work with airplane mode on for me. It also wouldn't work with Zune being open already. I had to close Zune and let the phone wake it back up when I plugged in. It would hang when I tried without closing Zune first. I will report if I have issues after completion. 

Ed Boone says:

got 8779....now trying for the next

Followed the cable pull trick and got my update. L900 ATT Oklahoma.

celtic_jim says:

I tried on my Lumia 900 at&t and i cant download the update...it just hangs at downloading at 0%.....how long did it take for your update to download?

Gavin Fielke says:

Did you turn on /plug in your internet connection when before it started trying to download the update?
I know it was a silly question but something easioy overlooked.
Your phone may allow the update over your wireless network after starting it so you may just want to try to get it to update indipendantly of your computer.

AzmoD3uS says:

Tried multiple times on my HTC 7 Mozart, with no success. :( This trick worked when i updated to Mango, so i'm pretty sure i got the timing right too...

sonosp says:

DItto, you arnt alone mate!

bt66 says:

It did an update but it shows as 8783 after the update...is that the ccorrect version. It's Lumi 900 on AT&T

mulchy says:

You have to do the process one more time after updating it to 8783. Then it should show that the next update (8858)

bt66 says:

Yep now I was able to force it again & it's installing 8858.

TheHannibal says:

It should be build 8858. It took me multiple tries but I finally got it to update. You just have to keep trying the trick till it works. Make sure your phone is in airplane mode as you do it.

TheHannibal says:

Edit: It took me many many tries and I was frustrated but I finally got it. I'm updated to build 8858. It turns out that I had switched off airplane mode after 8783. Once I realized and put it on airplane mode, the next time I tried I was able to force the update.

Ed Boone says:

8783 installing now!!!!!!!!!!!

msualum says:

Wow just went through and it said it was updated - nope!

ArcCavalier says:

Some older/minor update after 7.5 before i got the 7.8 update

msualum says:

Thanks... Must have been the 'minor' update. 7.8 here I come...

masabbin says:

so have u succeded in 7.8 bcoz i got 8779 but now no luck (lumia 710)

phatboy66 says:

Oh man, I finally got it! Gotta be patient and try a couple times, took me about 12x. Currently installing on my unlocked Rogers Lumia 900 (CANADA)

Calan#WP says:

Updating now on LG Optimus 7 on Telus in Canada - looks like that whole "LG phones won't get 7.8 update" thing was just a rumor.
EDIT: Didn't find additional updates after the first update - had to re-do this trick to get it to get the 7.8 update. Updating now.

zemishudinda says:

Forced 7.8 update to my unlocked HTC Trophy (branded by Vodafone Germany). It took me 5 updates (all forced) to get to the last one - 7.10.8858.136.

ArcCavalier says:

Got it on Samsung Focus. Have to get some older updates twice before getting 7.8. (I have 7.5 before btw)
EDIT: Lock on Rogers Canada Sorry can't remember the first 2 updates.

RecklessJay says:

Which network? Also did you get a firmware too? What are the numbers for both the OS and firmware?

DalekSnare says:

What carrier?

BugZau says:

Network ? my focus stock to 7.10.8779

nasdotcom says:

I'm using an unlocked Lumia 800, T-mobile UK. I managed to install the Nokia update using the disconnect internet method, but on repeating to get the other updates, I get a message on the phone saying update is available but Zune says there isn't. Any ideas how do solve this discrepancy?

Ed Boone says:

Keep using the disconnect method

nasdotcom says:

I've tried multiple times. And on multiple occasions I get the notification on my phone, but nothing on Zune. And it takes a good number of attempts to even make that happen!
But thank you. I'll give it a few more goes every now and then, if it doesn't work, I'll wait for the official notification. Really looking forward to this! :D.

bob_isme says:

If you are forcing this update make sure to do it again after the first update. The new start screen is the second update. There might be a third I don't know for sure yet. But u have to repeat the disconnect process for the second update. Check the article he says the final build os number to be sure your phone is at that

_JonnyG_ says:

I now own an HTC Titan on Orange (EE) UK running 7.8 !!

BaboliDaboli says:

Samsung Omnia 7, VIPnet, Croatia
Took a lot of patience. Received 8779, 8783 and finally 8858.
Good luck everyone!

dbu says:

How long did you wait after pressing Update?
Cable or WiFi internet connection?
Tnx

You wouldnt believe what just happened to me, I stumbled upon this article about an hour ago and couldnt believe that  I could get the new 7.8 on my HD7s after all, because last few days there were numerous articles on the web that the new update wont even happen for most htc-s with 7.5 OS, what made me really angry and disapointed on HTC .  And then out of the blue comes this, I got so happy, get out of my bed, turn on my computer to update it, AND YOU WOULDNT BELIEVE IT, while my pc was turning on, notification pops on on my phone that new update is available ( and I checked it via wifi minutes ago, and there wasnt any), and voila, I updated my HD7 wirellesly to new 7.8 OS without even connecting it to pc or tricking zune! :))) Its fantastic, new interface looks great, new colors, wooohoooo! hope all of you also get the new 7.8
VIP Croatia

HTC were getting a lot of criticism but you could argue that they brought that on themselves by allowing incorrect information to get out via Twitter etc.

StevePT says:

So you're saying a first gen WP device updated over WiFi without connecting through Zune? I find this really hard to believe... 

I couldnt believe it either, Im telling you it happened exactly like that, I connected it on zune a week ago and there was no update, and when I saw this i turned on my wifi (usually turned off, mobile network faster) just to check for update, there was none, and in 3-4 minutes till I got to my pc and pressed the ON button notification on the phone poped out, I pressed update and it did the rest on its own!;) I did set up wifi update ages ago, and last few updates were via wifi also. I have apsolutely no reason to lie to you;)

Tried the Disconnect trick.... it gave an update is available for HTC Radar (Factory Unlocked) from Pakistan
Hope so it perfectly updates :)

nicewabbit says:

My update has been stuck on Step 6 of 9: Restarting Your Phone for the last hour or so. Should I take any steps to cancel or just wait it out?

wait, that is probably because its instaling more then one update! let it go through

nicewabbit says:

Gah...must..be..patient.. as the article says. Thanks!

nicewabbit says:

2 hrs and counting now :(

Ed Boone says:

8858 finally installing...takes a few tries and some patience but it gets there :)

I've tried this at least 30 times, varying the time between hitting 'update' and the wifi switch, anywhere from hitting the switch a couple of seconds before hitting 'update' to a couple of seconds after hitting 'update'.  I'm always getting the same message, my version is up to date.  BTW, I have an ATT Lumia 900, should be capable of getting the update.  Any other suggestions?

TheHannibal says:

Make sure your phone is on airplane mode when you do it. (not conencted to wifi or cellular). That was the problem on my end when I failed. I'm an AT&T L900 too.

Anyone get the update for the HTC Trophy on Verizon?

BobcatRidge says:

I have not been able to get the update on my Verizon HTC Trophy.  I tried the cable trick 4 times with no luck.

Sam Not Spam says:

Tried it, but didn't work. Oddly enough, I think it simply redid the 7.5 update. Well, at worst, I got another, more recent, backup point :p

First Knight says:

Am I the only Lumia 900 owner who is content to wait until he receives the official update? Or is that too primitive for the WP Central community...  :-)

It's only you. LOL!

fpostrow says:

This is the official update. I think you mean content to wait for notification... Eh?

Nope... I waited too. It's all good

I tried quite a few times with my HTC Radar anyone have any luck with that phone?

Mine is on 2nd update right now

court6714 says:

For TMobile USA??

Yamagushi says:

I can walk you through a manual update if you want. Just did it on mine. Just reply here if you want to.

rossart12 says:

Please, I can't figure out how to manually push mine past 8107.

Yamagushi says:

If you have a Tmobile HTC Radar 4G, currently on mango (8107) with 5 language files (Deutsch, English, Espanol, Francais, and Italiano) under Settings->region+language->Display language. The following file will completely walk you through updating to WP7.8, everything included. I have done this on my own phone.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/73590185/TMobile%20USA%20-%20HTC%20Radar%204g%20...
Enjoy!

I have an HTC radar. And there is no updates on Zune if I check. Will be trying the cable trick later. But U know how I could skip the cable trick and still update my phone.. Also avoiding the cab files method. Thanks

kurotsuki says:

My brother had HTC Radar. He successfully executed all three updates consecutively without any failure. We're in Indonesia though.

I want to say if you fail. Start completely over. Unhook phone, shut down zune, reconnect phone, open zune, check for update, nothing found, check again, disco the net.

jasonlacarl says:

success with unlocked htc titan on t-mobile in tx.

techtiggie says:

Omnia W updating to 7.8, finally :)
Three pre-7.8 updates had to be done through the disconnect trick though!

suraj.das says:

my phone just got updated to 8779. and says no update available after that

jersey shore says:

you have to do "unplug ethernet cable" trick one more time.

suraj.das says:

Doesnt work! I got 8779 by the cable trick!

celtic_jim says:

is anyone else unable to even download the update? My zune software shows it as available and shows the update in progress but I just can't get past 0% download. Stuck on "step 2 of 9"

DalekSnare says:

Remember to turn the internet connection back on after it detects the update.

celtic_jim says:

I did...Internet is working but the download just won't go past 0.

niyoko says:

I can confirm that Fujitsu IS12T owners on au are able to get the 7.10.8779.8 through this process. I have yet to confirm if the 8858 update is on the servers for the phone.

niyoko says:

**I'll check back later with an update on 8858.

niyoko says:

I've been able to confirm that the 7.10.8858.138 update, Windows Phone 7.8 update, is available for Fujitsu IS12T owners. I have yet to be able to download it, but AU KDDI has published documentation on their site stating that the update is available:
http://www.au.kddi.com/seihin/ichiran/smartphone/up_date/is12t/up_date_20130131.html
There is also a How-To pdf for users to follow in oder to get the update.

akar33 says:

What should be the version final version number for the Firmware revision number for the AT&T Lumia 900 in the US? Different people report differently. The Nokia site (http://www.nokia.com/us-en/support/product/lumia900/) says 2175.2905.885x.124x0, but on the forums, people report 2175.2307.8858.12480. Note this is the firmware version, not the OS version.
 
Why the discrepency? Is some firmware not getting installed by doing this trick? Also ATT hasn't announced the availibility of this update so there may be a possibility that all updates don't flow through.

blessthejon says:

I am getting the same problem doing this trick. I think this trick is not allowing us to download the last firmware update. That's why many people cant get the bluetooth sharing app etc.

jmagwp says:

Yeah it's just not working for me on my HTC Titan on AT&T. When I first plug the phone into the computer and it connects to Zune it takes makes 5-6 seconds to come back that the phone is up to date. Then when I click away from Update and then back it takes less than a second to come back with the phone is up to date message. So if I have to get between the "cannot connect" and "up to date" message timing down, that means I have a millisecond window. I guess I'm not that fast. Sigh.

baj78 says:

Same here. Too fast. Maybe if I had dial up

xconomicron says:

Please read the other comments, you are wasting your time.

The only phones to get this update ARE: unbranded/unlocked WP's and the ATT L900 - no one else!

ALL OTHER - ATT Titan's, Titan 2's, HD7s, Surrounds, Focus', Focus 2, Focus S, and Focus Flash are still pending release from ATT.

THAT ALSO INCLUDES: Verizon Trophy, Sprint Arrive, T-Mobile Radar/800 (locked to t mobile)

scdkad says:

Lumia 900 only! Not sure why you're trying a Titan. Please point to ATT site that says the Titan is getting it..

Mouthsmasher says:

Well screw Sprint and the HTC Arrive!! Dumping them as soon as my contract is up in May.

Pelatz says:

It is our lot in life to suffer.

Mouthsmasher says:

*Sigh* Sprint sure seems behind the times, considering they're tagline is "The Now Network" Last carrier to get iPhone, doesn't support Windows Phone at all, and from what I hear, they'll be late to the game for Blackberry too.

david126 says:

Got mine on at&t lumia 900 cyan to work and now running 7.8 after second update. Location: Los Angeles CA

rendeo says:

Succesfully updated on w8pro computer with zune and cable trick, Samsung Omnia 7 (3updates to 7.8) and our new game Armed Strike http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/armed-strike/85f2cdbb-0a0b-4217-a3d5-d63c7f802e58
working like a charm and maybe smoother :) .
Trick is to unplug a bit earlier than 2s.

david126 says:

Servers are slowing down, got stuck a few times myself for about 10 min on a few steps

drg says:

tried this morning before work quickly on L800 on telstra in Australia but no joy. anyone in Australia got the update yet?

jvdbosc says:

Managed to update to build 8779 with the disconnect trick, but no luck with further updates. L800 on Telstra (Voda branded)

jvdbosc says:

update: finally after numerous tries, I now have 7.8 fully installed on my Lumia 800. Voda branded L800 on Telstra network.

mikeeemm says:

havent had any luck on my samsung focus out in california.

jcarvajal says:

ah!!!!! it worked!!!!
 
att Nokia L900. 
1!!!!! ahahahaha yes! thank you for the trick. did it about 5 times. airplane mode is def helps. 

david126 says:

Make sure your device is in airplane mode and WiFi off when u check for update, I usually put my computer WiFi connection in airplane mode (aka pulled plug) within 4 seconds of clicking check update, timing is key, should get an update notification within 20 seconds

ebradley says:

Nothing for the Titan II

djdoubt03 says:

No Titan II here either

MichaelAPerz says:

If you're a Lumia owner that's having trouble receiving this or any other update through Zune, make sure that your PC doesn't have USB drivers for Nokia Care Suite installed (Start > Control Panel > Programs). These drivers will prevent Zune from connecting your device to the Internet to check for updates

Scatty69 says:

i have those drivers in comp & was still able to force update

pnp2013 says:

Unlocked lumia 900 in India - worked on my 8th attempt.

jodybiz says:

3 updates, 3 zune force, very well worth it! :)
Indonesia, Unlocked HTC Mozart, 7.8!

heri_cure says:

How did you get that...? I'm from indonesia too...

jodybiz says:

Halo Heri,
1. Aktifkan Airplane Mode.
2. Masuk ke Zune. Klik Settings - Phone, lalu klik Update.
3. Setelah beberapa detik Zune akan katakan "Your phone is up to date".
4. Klik salah satu menu di atas/di bawah Update, contohnya klik "Name Your Phone".
5. Siap-siap untuk mematikan link internet...
6. Klik Update.
7. Setelah beberapa detik (ini tergantung koneksi Anda. biasanya saya dapat sekitar 6-10 detik), matikan link internet.
8. Jika munculnya "Your phone is up to date", berarti Anda terlalu lama menunggu sebelum mematikan link internet.
9. Jika munculnya "Can't check for updates right now", berarti Anda terlalu cepat mematikan link internet.
10. Jika terlalu cepat/terlalu lama, ulangi kembali dari langkah 2.
11. Jika timingnya tepat, akan muncul pesan bahwa tersedia update... nyalakan link internet lalu tinggal klik Update.
Ada 3 updates untuk sampai ke 7.8. Dan ketiganya harus melakukan proses force seperti di atas. Saya udah update HTC Mozart dan Nokia 710. Semua okeh. Selamat mencoba!

DJCBS says:

Well I tried to update my old L800 (Deutsch T-Mobile) with this trick and no luck. I know the update is on Nokia's servers as I've seen it on Navifirm. So I clearly lack the hability to perform this. Oh well...seems my mother will have to wait for the "official" release. :P

thinn149 says:

Mine will say checking for updates for like 30 minutes and never tell me update found or not found when I disconnect... Lumia 900 att

david126 says:

Restart zune

aa.flores says:

as of RIGHT NOW...I have the Nokia Lumia 900 from AT&T and attempted the force uprade, I live in Virginia and it's currently upgrading. After you disconnect the wi-fi from your internet, give it some time to bring the update itself. It'll come up on it's OWN! and once it does, turn your internet connection back on and begin the upgrade!

cursivek1d says:

Finally forced an update but wasn't 7.8 :-\

jersey shore says:

OK, it required 3 times update (3 times disconnet ethernet cable) and all works great.
 
Best way, if you go for airplane mode.
 
 

Wow, it actually worked (is currently working). Thanks!

HatimQ says:

anyone did this on the focus??

Sandrot says:

when i try i get cant check for updates right now try again later  and then it says we couldnt connect to the update server disconnect and reconnetc your phone and make sure your computer has internet has that happen to any one else

jessecabrera says:

Just updated my T-Mobile HD7 to 7.8. I used cab sender. It's pretty easy. You don't have to be a genius to do it. Here's the thread that really helped me out. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415 You may have to update from mango to tango (8017 to 8773) , if you haven't done so already, first. From tango to 7.8 I had to send Cab files 3 times. From 8773 to 8779 (with language pack), from 8779 to 8783 (without language pack), and from 8783 to 8858 (It's 2 cab files and has a language pack). Hope this helps those HD7 users or others who can't update using the "turn off internet" method.

zdentonz says:

Im trying to manually update my HD7 right now but Im confused by the XDA post even though I read pages of it.  So do I download all four of the cab files for each update? Could you tell me what links you used?  I just dont fully understand it and do not wanna brick my phone. 

Dre325 says:

AT&T Lumia 900 here, got the update available on the 3rd try and a half hour later I'm on 7.10.8783.12 (still 7.5).  The backup takes a while.  The only updates it said it was installing were updates for phones without a camera button.  Trying again...
UPDATE: About 6 more tries and I'm currently installing 8858 (i.e. 7.8).  YES.  This is a big win for Nokia.  Not even going to bother with the wife's Focus S as I haven't heard of anyone getting theirs to update yet.

phatboy66 says:

Damn I'm blocked from 8783 to 8858 - Rogers Lumia 900 

ArtSooby says:

Keep trying ... you will have it :)
I did it with my 900 with Rogers.

purefire says:

unlocked 900 on rogers here .. thought the same thing but finally getting update as i type this. :).. i pulled sim and killed all wifi and date and airplane mode and waited for 4 seconds.. gl man

jcarvajal says:

the disconnect trick seemed to do the trick for the actual 7.8 update. took several tries. so here goes, currently downloading. 

mjyumping says:

The disable internet trick do not work for lumia 610, it has only found nokia update and when I install it, theres an error occured.

mnkhalid2000 says:

Has any had any luck with samsung omnia w in india ?

Wait for 3-5 seconds...... Getting my first update... India ..... HTC Radar

Via the cable trick? Or direct zune connect?

Use zune... wait 6-8 seconds before u disconnect

Was anyone able to update with a Mac???

Wildfire359 says:

Bam! Finally got it on my last attempt of the night.

jbrown9070 says:

I usually don't do all the extra stuff, but this cable trick worked. I'm now using 7.8, but it takes a few tries.

JsLee14 says:

This update process seems to be working on my Nokia 800 guys, Thanks WpCentral for the tip!

Actually, it only updated to 8783. Lumia 900 AT&T.
 

RobinPaul says:

If you get the first update (with the cable trick?), will you be prompt for the 2nd update (automatically?)

jodybiz says:

I had to force it three times.

RobinPaul says:

im trying to the 2nd one for 2 house now, still nothing :(

2nd Update now..... give it some time to reach the server before u disconnect

agion1 says:

From reading, it appears that most peopel are still doing the cable trick to get the update.  So you all know, my wife's Lumia 900 (AT&T, state of Georgia) was never setup with Zune.  I did so tonight for the first time and, when I did, it checked for updates and gave me 7.8--no cable trick!  I hope this helps!

spadX says:

After 3 hours and 160 attempt...finally got wp 7.8 on my HTC Radar.

court6714 says:

what carrier??

spadX says:

Vidéotron (Canada)

TMaestro says:

Worked for me at the first try. I'm from VN btw.

RobinPaul says:

waw lucky, still trying for 2nd update

RobinPaul says:

i keep getting: Can't check for updates right now. what to do? i unplugged it to early or to late?

jodybiz says:

You disconnect the internet too fast. add a couple of seconds before you disconnect.

dude, can U tell me how ur doing it? Coz im from India as well and I can't find anything on zune

Follow the instructions ... connect phone to computer... start zune..... settings>update..... wait for 5-7 secs and disconnect the internet.... try for a few times.

RobinPaul says:

Alright, got the 2nde force update this morning, so going to try force update 3 later :)

bronzekid91 says:

Okay so i got some other build but its not 7.8 , anyone else get this?

Any luck with HTC HD7S (AT&T)?

suraj.das says:

Anyone from India got an update on their Omnia w?
I got the 8779 update.. But after that Zune says.. Your phone is up to date. I had to get the 8779 update through cable trick.

akashpats says:

try the trick many times, you will get other updates too

jmagwp says:

I couldn't get the connect trick to work on my Titan on AT&T, but just updated everything using the CAB method. F*** yeah!
 
Thanks to the nerds that are nerdier than me!

nikoli90 says:

Took a few tries but the update is working on my lumia 900 as I type 

kinaton says:

Anyone in UK got the update via normal notification.

Downloading it on my Omnia W :) INDIA
for every update you need to do trick. Disconnect after 3-4 seconds. If you have laptop see for wifi lights to judge when to disconnect.
Edit : Please put your phone in airplane mode and after each update disconnect phone and close zune and open and connect again

akashpats says:

could you plz tell me step by step the 3-4 seconds trick.

Thanks, it will be helpful to me

Did you get all 3 updates? I own an Omnia W too, in INDIA. I can't seem to get past the 2nd update!

Never mind! Finally got it! Lost count of the number of tries =D

Ok, after many repeated attempts got the 2nd update. 1st one only took me to 8783.

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