Unknown Lumia Windows Phone shows up on Nokia’s servers, destined for the US
Although “all will be revealed” at Mobile World Congress in just a few short weeks, it doesn’t mean the speculation cannot begin. A new device, RM-860, has shown up in two places to validate its existence.
The first spot is on Elbert Perez’s Occasional Gamer site. Perez makes numerous high quality Windows Phone games and he happens to record which devices use his wares. That info is then shared publicly on his website.
A view on Nokia's servers validates RM-860
In of itself that just tells us there is a new Windows Phone but that info can and has been faked in the past. However, the data can be cross-referenced on Nokia’s own servers via Navifirm under ‘Quality Assurance’ and sure enough RM-860 is visible there as well, confirming its legitimacy.
Not much else can be gleaned from the information. The RM-860 designation does not indicate that this is an “800 series” device as the Lumia 920 is a RM-820 in Nokia’s system and the Lumia 505 is RM-923, so nothing should be inferred from that evidence.
As seen on Occasional Gamer
All we can say at this point is this device is aimed at the US market (“nam_usa” is for North America), it runs Windows Phone and it’s not listed in Nokia’s normal Nokia Care Suite for firmware, making this a in-testing device.
Nokia is rumored to be announcing numerous new Lumias in Barcelona next month, including the 'EOS', 'Catwalk' and 'Laser', which may include a high-end PureView camera and aluminum body.
Source: Nokia Power User; Occasional Gamer
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Reginald Atkins says:
could be the verizon 920 variant I've heard rumor about.
PolishHitta says:
Laser goddamn it! Gimme laser!
schlubadub says:
Hopefully one with microSD... Nokia (& HTC) really dropped the ball with that one
MediaCastleX says:
Concessions must be made...
baandoptager says:
Ehh what, as far as i know, 820, 822 and the new 620 all have Micro sd card slots :) So...???
glass says:
What happened to Nokia shutting off public access to that server? I'm going to miss leaks like this when that happens.
erzhik says:
Most likely Verizon's version of 920.
tiggscolo says:
Maybe it will be a Sprint phone...
I know, I know... but I called Sprint last week about closing my contract and they hinted strongly that a Nokia phone would be available from them near March.
Daniel Rubino says:
Sprint has publicly announced HTC and Samsung as Windows Phone 8 partners, no Nokia. So I would not bet on that all.
ahabenezer says:
Can't we at least wait to give up hope until after MWC next month? ;)
tiggscolo says:
I know that it is highly unlikely.
Rico says:
I work at a Sprint indirect and our IAE (Indirect Agent Executive) confirmed HTC and Samsung. No Nokia.
ahabenezer says:
Is that "Confirmed Yes for HTC and Samsung" and "Confirmed No for Nokia?" Or is it "Confirmed Yes for HTC and Samsung" and "No word on Nokia?"
pizzalovinhulk says:
Lol they probably lied to keep u
TheRewardisCheese says:
In my experience, all CS Reps (no matter the carrier) 99%of the time do not know jack about when new phones are going to hit the market, as they are not privy to such info.
Best to take what that rep said with a grain or two of salt
uberlaff says:
RM-860 is greater than RM-820 (Lumia 920) could that mean it is an improved version of the 920?
Daniel Rubino says:
Someone didn't read the article...tsk tsk (Hint: 4th paragraph)
togastealer says:
Lol so true. It's right there in the article!
mdram says:
The numbering system there doesn't make much sense. Wouldn't it have been easier to keep the 8xx and 9xx designations for respective model numbers?
wpguy says:
To keep everyone guessing until the big reveal.
x I'm tc says:
Not true. Nothing in the article suggests his idea is off. All the article says is that the numbers don't necessarily associate with the line, that is, a higher number can be a lower line. But 820 and 860 do seem likely to be members of the same family.
The fact that the Lumia 920 is an RM-820 is perfectly consistent with the idea that a newer Lumia 9XX would have an 8XX code name. Perhaps we are looking at the Lumia 960.
Daniel Rubino says:
Nah. I didn't want to go through all the Lumia line to demonstrate that the RM numbers have no association with model number, hoping you'd just take my word for it, but since you're skeptical...here are a few more.
- Lumia 610 = RM-835
- Lumia 620 = RM-846
- Lumia 820 = RM-824
- Lumia-822 = RM-808
Numbers are all over the place.
PolishHitta says:
Unless rm-808 was put aside for other projects but that we will never know.
lippidp says:
It might seem to some that the numbering scheme is random, but upon close analysis I have concluded that the new device will be waterproof and bulletproof and feature a 100Mpx pureview camera, 18 cores, 1TB RAM, 1PB onboard storage, OIS, a bottle opener and... A keyboard!
xconomicron says:
...and at a MRP of ONLY 4000$
SZero says:
And a kitchen-sink :P
Morpheus Phreak says:
Daniel, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the RM-808 is the Lumia 900 and the RM-845 is the Lumia 822.
Model numbers are still not entirely consistent based on model and product code, but Lumia 620 RM PC is higher than 610, and 822 RM PC is higher than 820.
So there's some consistency there, but not across model ranges.
WinFan1 says:
Ooiooo I hope its a 41mp pureview shooter
LaNiQuE says:
How about a 920 for all carriers it will hopefully slow down BB10
sanders2232 says:
Ya that's a great marketing strategy they should take. Looks like Verizon is getting a high end Nokia....that's my guess.
Squatting Hen says:
Well...being selfish...I hope if it is an "upgraded" 920 it isn't too "upgraded". I don't want to have too big of a failed smile face while looking at my 920.
xconomicron says:
juggernaut alpha omega omicron theta beta EOS!
Daniel Rubino says:
lol, that would make a good codename
xconomicron says:
hahaha, i would literally shit bricks if I saw that on WPBench for a new device codename.
LaNiQuE says:
I had sprint and I call bs on whatever they say into I see it
sanders2232 says:
My guess this is a Nokia Lumia 920 variant for Verizon. How ever I wish upon a star that it is a new AT&T Lumia with camera like the 808.
xconomicron says:
same here but honestly, I don't think we will see that till later this year....and my upgrade does not go in effect till July. -unless I extend the contract...
But Im hoping that whenever the 808 doppleganger releases, it'l be time to upgrade.
phirefly says:
I'm never against a cool new model on AT&T since I'm on AT&T but for WPs sake I really hope this is a 920 or slightly better on VZW. If nothing else it would show that WP is doing well enough for VZW to carry more than just the 8X as a top of the line device. We all know AT&T will carry every damn phone they can get their hands on which is the biggest reason I love being on AT&T but if VZW and the others start picking up more devices it's a good sign.
xconomicron says:
yes this is true...I hope not too many VRZ users aren't pissed that they missed out on a flagship Nokia. I know my friend was whenever he heard about the exclusivity of the 920...so he upgraded to the Note 2 instead.
He now states to me: "...MS always makes us play the waiting game"
But yes, I love ATT - and all the phones they bring to us....and all the service they provide for its customers here in Texas. :)
jgbstetson says:
It's the Lumia 920 Hello Kitty Edition
xconomicron says:
By george, I do believe you're onto something there!
jasqid says:
Verizon Flagship ... and my next phone if it is. Pass the 8x to my kid.
Luminatic says:
I LOLed aloud when I read that
independentvolume says:
I believe some 920s are quad core. Toss that in the Verizon model please and remove the wireless charging.
jabtano says:
I would think that Nokia currently feels safe enough in spreading some high end WP8 love around. The reception that the L920 has received and the fact that it is selling very well answered any questions that they may of had. I would expect to hear that both Verizon and T-Mobile would be receiving High end WP8 devices.
opteron opteron says:
Your guess is in fact true. Weber confirmed in an interview a couple of weeks ago that Nokia was bringing high end, middle range and low end WP8 to Verizon, ATT AND T-Mobile. He also said that they were NOT in discussions with any other US carrier at this time and were concentrated on the above 3 carriers.
teoami says:
It is a flagship LTE phone for TMobile. Just you wait and see.
Angry_Mushroom says:
That would be nice.
Rishicash says:
And there will be peace in the Middle East.
oZed says:
I have also seen this model from my analytics. The full list of lumia models i've seen are:
RM-878
RM-867
RM-860
RM-846
RM-845
RM-826
RM-825
RM-824
RM-822
RM-821
RM-820
These are all Windows phone 8 device's as the app is WP8 only :)
