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First photo of the Nokia Lumia 1520 phablet revealed, dwarfs the Lumia 1020

The first purported photo of the rumored Nokia Lumia 1520 Windows Phone with a 6-inch 1080P display

At the end of September, Nokia is reportedly going to reveal at least two new devices here in New York: their Windows 8 RT tablet, codenamed Sirius and the Nokia Lumia 1520 phablet.

The Lumia 1520 will feature a huge six-inch 1080P display, a polycarbonate body (not metal) with a 20 MP PureView camera akin to the Lumia 925’s design, specifications that we revealed last week from our verified sources. The device will also feature a quad-core Snapdragon CPU and Windows Phone 8 GDR3 for the new 1080P support.

The image above was leaked to us and while we cannot confirm it, we have a suspicion that is accurate. For one, it comes with what looks like an optional back case with a front cover to protect the display. We also wouldn’t be surprised if it adds Qi wireless charging capability as well. It's placed next to what appears to be a Lumia 1020 for size comparison. 

The other bit of evidence is that the display and bezel appear to closely match that of a leaked bezel from back in January, back when Nokia’s intention of making a phablet device were becoming clear. Everything from the Nokia label to the sensor locations to the thin bezel at the bottom appear to correspond. While not a slam dunk conclusion that at least favors a positive interpretation of the leaked photo.

We'll also note the standard proto.nokia.com etching at the bottom, as found on all Nokia tester phones.

Finally, with the display turned on we can see that as we would expect, there are three columns of Live Tiles now, including the ability to fit one double wide next to a medium sized tile. That feature would be needed due to the increased 1080P support found in GDR3.

The Nokia Lumia 1520 is expected to land on AT&T under the codename 'Bandit' and other carriers by November.

Windows Phone Central has not vetted the source of the image, so we cannot verify at this time. We will try to dig deeper and see what we can find.

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Sam Sabri says:

Oh yeah. That red looks delicioius. Also I think I'm really going to like the amount of tiles I have above the fold on the 1520. 

wpoblation says:

It would look really crazy to pepper it with the small tiles and nothing else.

sepatown says:

That'll be a fun thing to try. This phone looks sexy. I refuse to call it a ph...t.

I hate the word phablet too. It just sounds... wrong. lol

wookie301 says:

Would have been easier to call it a tone.

Tumultus says:

Small tablet? :)

Yangstax says:

5.5" is more appropriate size for my taste.  They might be forced to use 6" in order to sqeeze in the third column.

jbrandonf says:

I would imagine that physical size has nothing to do with tile size support but rather that resolution and aspect ratio matter more.

patricianne says:

LOL. Good one @wookie301. And I thought I was the only one who didn't like "phablet".

Dethzilla says:

I agree... anything above 5" should be called... an XLP (Extra Large Phone)

Jappe x360a says:

I always keep saying it like "faplet" and THAT is awkward

Credo93 says:

I really hope this device come's with built in wireless charging, that cover looks to me more like a kickstand for the device ... Fingers Crossed !!!

I think it won't.. There is a wireless charging shell attached to it. Look at the edges..

TheLiege says:

I dunno it looks more like a flip case as it looks like the bit under the 1020 is attached.

Oops.. I didn't see it.. Just ignore my comment.. Thanks :)

TheLiege says:

Although the people below stating it's unlikely that they will build wireless charging into a device until the standard war has ended have a very valid point (as dissapointing as it is)

HKarvinen says:

It looks to me that the flip case may have keyboard, that would be great.

MikeF74 says:

It looks like it has a tri-fold design, much like the ipad folding covers.

Daylife says:

I'll get one if I can find it in Cyan!!!! Lol

carlosrdd says:

Yes more Cyan Please!!!

silverbladex says:

You took the words right out of my mouth. Cyan all the way!

myrandex says:

Count me in too. Through in the 41MP preview variant, expandable storage sd slot, built in Qi, and it would be right up there with about perfect. The only thing to make it better would be a delicious 5 row high quality slide out keyboard (hell make it an optional accessory even with a built in extra battery) and it'd be perfect at that point.

Dodge99X says:

+1
literally PERFECTION (with an optional keyboard that is)

rodneyej says:

Why is the app menu button sit so high❔... When scrolled all the way down it shouldn't go almost 3/4 the way up the screen.. What's up with that❔

fwaits says:

Because there's not enough tiles on the home screen to push it down to where you need to scroll.

It might be because of the lack of apps. The picture shows the 1520s screen only with a handful of apps so the menu button has to be a bit more to the top than usual.

rodneyej says:

Good explanation..

HailMarxism says:

I think it's intentionally left blank to hide new features in Windows GDR3 - my guess is toggle switches for quick access to settings like wifi, BT, etc..

ajst222 says:

I agree I like the red. Also, am I the only one who noticed the case the phone is in? It is like a mini Smart Cover or something similar to what BlackBerry did with a Z10 case (their Flip Shell). I like it.

J Papi says:

My precious :p

brianlg says:

Why is it running phone os?

Sam Sabri says:

Because most phones around the 6-inch and under mark will probably run Windows Phone, while 7-inch and up will probably get Windows 8. (Until the two crash and become one OS)

rockstarzzz says:

Which is in 5 yrs time?

Josh Harman says:

I'm predicting a year and a half from now. Complete conjecture.

kamikaze80 says:

What does the Galaxy Note run?

rockstarzzz says:

It runs a malware software that collects user data sold for money. Very different from this.

lippidp says:

And the kids love it!

James8561 says:

lol nice summary.
you forgot to mention viruses :P

jimmy1one says:

Great shot rockstarzzzz I'm going steal it next time see the question

rodneyej says:

Yes, it does..

cwc2311 says:

@rockstarzz: Best answer ever!

Neusyn says:

ROFL, dude you just made my day :D

Rubios says:

Runs hyperbole and tears.

CSJr1 says:

I want the truth!    You can't handle the truth! Good one!

varanus261 says:

This made me laugh too hard...

rd_nest says:

Atleast that has youtube and google maps. What does WP have? 
 
WP is a ghost town. Do these phones too catch virus? freeze or do a BSOD?

Robert Grant says:

It has Youtube apps which are great, and Nokia Maps, which are free to download and keep on the phone. No streaming needed.

Genghis7777 says:

Quite right. This one collects user data for the NSA for nothing.

neogodless says:

"phablet" stands for "phone/tablet" - i.e. a phone big enough to be considered a tablet.

erzhik says:

Because its a phone. It still runs phone os. Phablet just means that its a phone with a size similar to a tablet.

HOLY SHOOT this looks awesome. 

rockstarzzz says:

That's what she said.

erzhik says:

Doesn't really work in this situation.

And I thought I was the only one to think this was a poor time to use the phrase...

Dadstar0410 says:

"That's what."

-She

R42 says:

lol well played bro

CJ Thunder says:

I wonder if girls use this joke as much but with 'he said'.

lippidp says:

No. Girls aren't so stupid.

zlos7ar says:

except when they drive cars :)
 

Andresuxx says:

I think girls would use 'phablet' like.. Hey how long does your boy has it?.. Like a normal phone, and yours? Like a PHABLET XD

MyLady thinks a six inch is the optimum size (and that thicker is better)

derek533 says:

Must resist...

I'd love one....but I'm not spending another dime on AT&T if the 920 is how all my products will be handled by them.

jayrod213 says:

I've had a few issues with my 920. The last issue was a cracked screen courtesy of my 3 year old. I almost would've had to jump through hoops to get a new one from At&t without using an upgrade. Leaving infuriated and nothing resolved I went to the Microsoft Store and for $99 I was given a NEW 920 any color i would like, i had the Black one and changed to Cyan, and a 2 year warranty covering everything except for lost or stolen. Any issues i have from here on out I'm going back to the Microsoft Store. Upgrades as well will be done through them also.

Ticomfreak says:

+1520 MS store FTW! ;-)

Bob Shiska says:

That's like complaining about how your teenage kid crashed your 3 year old Civic and Honda wouldn't give you a new one for anything less than what they would normally charge.

jbrandonf says:

I don't think your expectations were reasonable. You (or your kid rather) were responsible for damage and now the carrier has to give you subsidized pricing?

Also, how is this an issue with your 920? This is an issue you have with at&t.

mab664 says:

Looks like a huge 8x

Shantek says:

Or a huge 720

A huge 720, Yes, thats what it is.

cam45fblax says:

Is it possible for the 3 rows of tiles to come to the smaller screen, or logistically it won't fit in an aesthetic way on a less than 5in screen?

RyanAMG says:

Sam posted something like 6 months back with this layout on a 920 & for me it would work.

TechFreak1 says:

I don't think you would be able to fit three mediums on a L920 even if you squeezed them together to ensure there was no spacing it would not work. Imagine it may work for displays about 4.8 inchs at the minimum but that may be a stretch.

RyanAMG says:

I did a screen shot of the tiles from Sam's old post and I liked it. So for some maybe not but I personally liked it.

mukulvdhiman says:

I just did it on my Lumia 820 too and it looked really awesome!!

goldenpipes says:

Umm. The screens dimensions can be whatever. Its the resolution that matters. Because the tiles are all a set pixel size not dependent on the inches of the display.

3 rows I believe are only for devices that have 1080 screens

joe_easton says:

Very interesting; looks like an odd aspect ratio.  Is it 16:9 like the 8X?
I hope it has WP on it and not RT.  RT should be only for true tablets and not phones!

cdbstl76 says:

This is a phone. Not a tablet or PC. It will have WP OS. The dont put RT on phones.

fwaits says:

Well if it's 1080p then it will be 16:9 not 5:3. (15:9 like the 92x series and such using 768p)

joe_easton says:

Good point, thanks!

kinpin2131 says:

Ridicoulous ! 
It looks pretty genuine to me... especially with the cover.. will be a shame if it doesn't come with a pen. 

Sean D. says:

It's a trip to me that just a few years ago having a pen (stylus) was one of the worst things a device could have. Things had to be "finger friendly".
 

Josh Harman says:

That's what I call the Steve Jobs effect.

Kellzea says:

No need for a pen, its a lumia. Use a dagger or pneumatic drill as a stylus, itl bw fine!

Mobile Fan says:

or a car key... :)

sayonical says:

Its a toss up between this and a 7inch windows 8 tablet for me. I don't see the point in getting both but I can't see myself using this as a phone and I hate Bluetooth earpieces. Maybe ill use a wired headset...

Why is it a toss up? .. They are two completely different OS.. It is what do you want a phone or a computer?.. Lol

MethodGT says:

Go 7" W8. You can do so much more with it. And the apps will come eventually.

devize says:

That's not a 920. The Nokia logo is in the middle, not the top right. Could be the 1020.

Firenze89 says:

You can see the hole for the lanyard strip and the matte black shell. it's a 1020 for sure. 

benners76 says:

It's a 920... Look @ the way it curves in @ the bottom.

Fndlumia says:

Wrong, look at the Nokia logo and lack of 920 smile, its a 1020 (black)

luimende says:

who cares, they're both the same size.

It looks more like a black 925, look at the rounded edges

theefman says:

Yup, think I can safely say this is too big for me but for you hulksters out there, enjoy!

rockstarzzz says:

That's too what she said!

theefman says:

She didn't say it to me though. :(

I dunno guys, when I zoom on the edges of the device it looks photoshopped. I'm calling fake.

Shantek says:

Yeah the bottom right looks a bit dodge

Sorry folks, while I see what you are talking the jaggyness is due to the photo being blown up on the site. The original has no such distortion.

Update: I added a zoomed/cropped of the original and I think you'll agree that it looks less jagged?

RayWP7 says:

The noticeable lack of any sort of glare and the placement of the arrow button seems odd. Guess I'm glad my screen is fully utilized.

The glare is on the left side edge where I'd expect it...

rodneyej says:

The arrow button seems kinda high,, even for its highest position..

Jerry_K says:

Nope, it has a wireless charging cover on it.

fruitylewps says:

It is a photoshop. I opened it up in PS and zoomed in. You can see a distinct block of black that was rubber stamped and in some cases on the right hand side of the bezel where it was sloppy done. For some reason the entire bottom third of the screen has been blacked out. Hate to say it, but most likely a fake somehow. 

toph36 says:

I thought the placement of the "Apps list" arrow was odd, but maybe that is because there aren't enough apps pinned to fill-up the whole screen?

In Limbo says:

I can't wait to see what everyone who thought the 920 was too heavy have to say about this. They might take it a step further and sue Nokia because they can't lift it.

TechFreak1 says:

I guess these people are weaker than 4 years olds, my little nephews and neices young as 4 have no problems playing or sharing my L920 lol. Kids these days they don't want to play board games like Ludo, scrabble, connect4 etc they wanna play consoles, call of duty, GTA because either their older siblings play it or their folks just gave up caring.

toph36 says:

It might be lighter...

In Limbo says:

I actually considered that possibility -- in which case, Nokia won't get sued. Everybody wins, lol.

mark nt says:

Sorry.. But why would you want a phone that big! To big to hold just looks like one of those fool who have one of those big android phone....but it would appeal to some i guess...but not for me

Sam Sabri says:

You might now want it, which is perfectly fine. However, devices like the Galaxy Note indicate there is a market for devices in this range. Nokia would be a fool to make a compelling offering with Windows Phone for people that like gigantic phones. 

RyanAMG says:

Sam maybe he has small hands ;)

mark nt says:

Agree with on the idea that people want a big phone, just saying when you see people walking around talking on these type of large phones..in my opinion they just look like try hard look at me and my big phone people...but i do see the practicality of having a big screen but for me 4.5 is big enough..note until my eyes fail then i get a big screen phone lol

Sean D. says:

I don't think people like/want a big a phone so much as they want a big-ass screen and are willing to carry around *whatever* in order to have it.
 
 

TechFreak1 says:

Yup, I just hope Nokia doesn't start making all their high end phones 5+ inches, 4.5 is the sweet spot for me as well. I can hold and use the L920 completely one handed (even wrap around it).

Tips_y says:

Probably won't happen. I think the 9xx line will continue along the same size. What Nokia is doing is opening up a new line of Lumias with the 1520 numbering.

JPDVM2014 says:

This. I don't really like the idea of talking into something that big, but it will save me from carrying a phone and a tablet for most of my needs.

Daniel Meek says:

For most of us considering one it is a matter of trade-offs. Before I got a smart phone I had to carry around my phone, plus a laptop. Now I have a L920 and I only need the laptop occasionally. The hope for this kind of device is to be able to have 1 single device, and leave everything else behind... but that depends as much upon the software set as it does the form factor. Personally I would have like to have seen a 5-5.5" screen, but if 6" is what is available and it does everything else that I want then I am not going to complain any because it keeps me from having to lug around an 8lb laptop ever again.
But for non-business use I would agree that there is little point. For personal use just give me a nice 4" screen and I'll be happy, but if I am expected to type out the occasional email, edit word documents and send them out, and other such things, then give me something nice and big I can work with.

ddartman7 says:

Feel free to shoot me down but I think it actually looks like a 928 with silicone case that it's sitting next to for size comparison

fraserzhu says:

Looks like the double wide tile won't be occupied the whole widths of the screen. Awesome news.

LawnPaul says:

Sick of the clip ons for Nokia. They need to have wireless charging built in. One of the main reasons I didn't get the 1020

spcdog says:

I thought this at first, too. But then I realized it's brilliant. You keep the phone as thin/light as possible for people who don't want wireless charging. And eventually all the "super mega body armor" cases start to include the wireless charging coil as part of their design. It's a win for everyone.

Tips_y says:

Yes it's genius because it's quite possible other standards will gain the upper hand. If Qi doesn't stick, then you can just replace the clip on to a different standard wireless charger.

Daniel Meek says:

So then what if Qi does not win the standards war and remaining Qi products get ridiculously expensive (as if they weren't already)? When the L920 came out it was 'clear' that Qi was going to win, but now people are not so sure. It is much better to keep with external charging covers for now, then if one of the other standards takes off it is no big deal to swap out a different charging cover. But in the future when a standard is a clear and sure winner then I agree that it should be a stock feature built into the phone again. It is a paper thin copper wire, it is not adding any thickness or weight to the design.

Dusteater says:

Why are there no buttons in the bottom of the screen?
 
Edit: Nevermind, missed that sentence in the article about it.

x I'm tc says:

It's not a spreadsheet. Rows can be in any orientation.

cookgoose says:

Looks like the just release Lumia 625.

RushilPa says:

Hey Daniel, that looks like a Lumia 1020 to me on the left, look at the left side of the black phone, you can see the thing where you would attach the thing. I dont know what its called haha but yeah, pretty sure its a 1020 on the left :)

RyanAMG says:

Its is a 1020

marantaz says:

That thing you attach to the thing is the thing you want when carrying around such things as this.

marantaz says:

Ooooooooooooooooo!
I'm gonna need bigger pants.

Verkunder says:

My body is ready. Specifically, my hand.

Octonabz says:

Now that's what she said.

isi mcf says:

If the HTC DNA can have wireless charging built in and still be thin, what's up Nokia.

Tips_y says:

I think at this stage, it's not good for Nokia to do a built-in charger when the accepted standard can change at any time. As usual, that rotten apple thing has decided to use somehting other than Qi so it has put the market in a flux. Until the standard is established, it's good that Nokia has the replaceable clip-on cover for wireless charging.

I'm not too fond of it. The screen seems like it needs to be wider, not longer.

tissotti says:

personally the absolutely last thing I want is to have wider device than this. It can be even longer imo.

How much ram in the 1520? I'd like 2GBs at least

Most likely given display and camera.

Nickkk101 says:

Today's bing wallpaper on that 1020. #developing.

marantaz says:

I have a pic of the Lincoln memorial during the MLK speech on Bing.

Nickkk101 says:

Hmm, that may be the next one for us, tomorrow-im in the UK. Are the wallpapers region specific?

Sam Sabri says:

That should have been your wallpaper yesterday. 

Doniam9 says:

have you noticed that they didnt add that image to the lockscreen? they did the same about a month ago for gay rights, that image was never added to the lockscreen.

Sam Sabri says:

Two steps ahead of you. That wallpaper comes from yesterday in UK, Australia, Japan, and Germany. It's the current wallpaper today in New Zealand. 

Nickkk101 says:

? The wallpaper in the pic there is my current Bing wallpaper here in the uk.

marky_yo says:

Had the note and note 2 good phones, but when you talk or take pics, well I felt like a rod at least but damn that is a nice looking phone! I may wait for nokias tavletw!

hasasimo says:

That's a Lumia 1020, not 920. The Nokia symbol on the front of the 920 is on the right side, not in the middle. You can also tell it's a 1020 because the capacitive buttons and Nokia symbol aren't reflective like they are in the 920.

aaa6112 says:

If this comes to ATT, I have a feeling they will be quick in pushing the GDR3 update, with the downside being they'll skip the GDR2 update altogether.

11B1P says:

@aaa6112 it will come to ATT first with other carriers following. And it comes with GDR3 already installed, as stated in the article.

swesrcott says:

Looks Like Verizon Red to me Please please please 

cesar ruiz1 says:

What is that on top of the 1020 it looks like an anal dildo...... Scary....

Wow, it's a tripod mount dude. Get your mind out of the gutter.

marantaz says:

Now now, let's not judge...may have suffered a traumatic experience at one time in his or her life...

RushilPa says:

Made my evening xD

RushilPa says:

Hahahahahahah :D

cesar ruiz1 says:

I know I just wanted to see at least 10 people's reaction...

inteller says:

the fact you know what an anal dildo looks like is what's scary.

NIST says:

Not just a dildo but an "anal dildo". Thanks for letting us know the difference.

Memristor says:

Pen support seems to be missing.

RJ Priest says:

Exciting to see, but leaks really kill most of the excitement for the formal unveiling. The 1020 event would have been phenomenal if the device hadn't leaked before hand.

ambroShuS says:

I think i've finally found the phone that i'll purchase when my contract is up in February

Ooft! Gotta say I do quite like the look of that... If it has a stylus then this will probably be my next phone (I've played with a few friends' Galaxy Notes and while it's pretty big, I didn't feel uncomfortable using it...
 
Still, there's still the Lumia 825 and 930 to turn up before Christmas so I'll wait and see what they bring. If the 930 brings a 1080p screen but in a thin 925-like form factor and a 20MP camera I'll probably go with that.
 
I'll be buying an 8" Windows 8/RT tablet once they come out so a 6" phone too might be a bit overkill...
 
It does look rather comically large in this photo though...
 
As for whether the photo is genuine (Though I'm sure we'll have a device that looks like that), I'm unsure. Points in favour is that it uses the same kind of corner clips all of Nokia's current covers do (this is a negative for me aesthetically, I don't care for the look at all and it would be a shame if all the covers were like this) but points against are the Office tile being theme colour rather than Office coloured and the Win/Search/Back keys not being visible. Unless they're doing that cool thing HTC used to do where they rotate when the device is held horizontally they should really be visible...
 
I guess we'll find out in a month!
 
P.S. I hope Nokia bring back cyan with these next wave of devices. The lack of a cyan 920 or 1020 killed them for me.

TechFreak1 says:

Yes, the lack of cyan was abit annoying especially when they said it would be an AT&T exclusive colour I was hoping they would have the cyan colour for international release. But was disappointed so settled for the L920 in white since I needed to upgrade from my omnia pro B7610 lol.
I thought I was going blind at first when I saw the back/win/seach keys but yeah they are no visible and there are no place holders which is odd. I don't see Nokia adding a setting where you could turn them off lol.

jlynnm350z says:

Big, just big. If you want a big screen get a tablet. They are portable. Where does it stop. When does it become a tablet. It's only a inch smaller than 7" tablet. Just a gimmick. Make it inch bigger call it a tablet with Windows 8.

KKRLessey says:

Is that a S4/iPad like cover?

Sean D. says:

Looks more like an S4/925 charching cover to me.

inteller says:

i'm raising the BS flag.  look where the apps arrow is on the 1520, there is like a 3rd screen space left at the bottom.  That is either photochop or something is screwed up with the resolution on that thing.

Sean D. says:

Uhhh... the more stuff you pin to the start screen the further down the arrow moves.
 
So... yeah... :-/

TechFreak1 says:

Don't think intellar has noticed it does move down  to the bottom / sticks to last row of tiles :P.. But the lack windows logo, back key and search key are eyebrow raising to the say the least. But on the flipside its a prototype so things can change.

HillBillJr says:

Isn't this the same blue phone that was posted here as a blurrycam shot couple of months ago? It also had the extra column of tiles

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