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GDR3 Bittersweet Shimmer

Unofficial changelog for Windows Phone 8 GDR3 and Bittersweet shimmer begins to complete the picture

News this morning has come out regarding some more changes coming to Windows Phone 8 General Distribution Release 3 and Nokia's Bittersweet shimmer. Most of these features we have been aware of for some time, in fact we re-capped them on Saturday with the Glance screen information, but there are a few new tidbits to give a clearer idea of the big picture.

The info comes by way of Nawzil, who has been posting quite a bit of information regarding Microsoft and Nokia’s plans for the upcoming OS and firmware update. We have heard that GDR3’s features have been briefed by Microsoft with various people recently, so we’re not too surprised to hear information is now coming forward—leaks are leaks.

So what’s new? Let’s take a look.

Windows Phone 8 GDR 3

  • Support for 1080p display for new devices like the Lumia 1520.
  • Support for new processors.
  • 3 medium or 6 small tiles on a row for phones with screen resolution of at least WXGA (1280 x 768) including Lumia 920, 925, 928, 1020 and of course the Lumia 1520.
  • Close apps by tapping on the X on top right in multitasking view. The icon of the app appears below.
  • Custom tones for text or IM, voicemail, email and reminders (confirmed earlier by Windows Phone Central)
  • Screen Rotation lock: When auto-rotate screen is off, your screen will stay in the current orientation when you rotate your phone.
  • Driving Mode: Turns of all notifications except texts and phone calls when you're driving. You can also turn calls and texts off completely or set Driving Mode to text and automatic reply like "Hey, I am driving right now. I'll reply you later." Driving Mode can start automatically when your phone connects to a Bluetooth device.
  • Connect to WiFi in OOBE when switching on your new phone for the first time or after you your reset your phone, so you can restore your data even before connecting to a cellular network.
  • Attach Office files (.doc, .xls, .ppt) and .pdf files in email.

Nokia Bittersweet shimmer firmware

  • Glance Screen: Notifications in glance screen similar to the notifications on the lock screen. Choose from any of the 20 accent colours for night mode instead of just red in Amber. You can choose whether you want to keep the glance screen always on when charging, in Amber it is always on when charging.
  • New apps: Nokia Camera, Storyteller, etc.

If you’ve been following Windows Phone Central closely, most of that should be familiar. What is new is that WXGA (1280 x 768) devices will get new tile sizes, allowing 3 medium or 6 small tiles on a row. Previously it was assumed that only 1080P devices would get that feature, but at least according to Nawzil, current high end devices will also have the option. It’s not clear though how it will all work.

Attach Office files is also new and if accurate, a very welcomed addition. Not being able to attach documents has been a major sore spot for many in enterprise.

The Glance Screen improvements we already knew about but not so much the 20 accent colors for the display—that’s a novel and unique addition.

We should note that this is not a full changelog either for GDR3 and there are presumably other under the hood fixes included as well i.e. a lot of little things that help your everyday experience but aren’t as attention grabbing.

Microsoft and Nokia are expected to detail the new OS version and Bittersweet shimmer firmware later this month in Abu Dhabi.

Source:; Thanks, Devarshi R., for the tip



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Nokia Camera? What's that?

ThatsAwesome says:

Are you the sme guy running the Fan page?
How do you know that all of this is true? Are you briefed by MS?
If yes, how is it that we have never seen a lumia 920 running GDR3, with that new tile structure of 6 medium apps. 
That alone is enough to say most of what is simply a hoax.
PS: I would love to see all of this true on my Nokia 925.

Nawzil says:

What fan page?
If you read the above mentioned article about the Nokia Camera app you can know about me.
You have never seen that? I remember a photo was leaked about a month ago, may be you didn't see. It was also posted by someone in comments below, check it out.

musarator says:

what about those six tiles.. current devices don't have a resolution "higher than wxga".. and what about 720p devices.. do you know anything about them??

Nawzil says:

I meant devices with WXGA.

ThatsAwesome says:

Facebook fanpage in the link presented in the article at the end

also what about the attaching multiple files to email. Without a proper file explorer that is simply not possible. So i doubt the possibility of this feature since there is no news of having a file explorer in wp8

Nawzil says:

That's a Facebook group, not page. Yes, I am the Admin of that group.

That's a good point, hmm.

E Lizzle says:

Office Hub lets you select and open files even though the OS has no "proper file explorer".  There's no reason that the file attach interface couldn't work the same way.

Actually, it is possible without a file explorer. Namely, the "File Chooser" from Windows 8. If Microsoft brought it over to windows phone, api's and all, it'd be just as good. Especially since, on windows 8, apps can integrate with it, so imagine selecting multiple documents from your dropbox and attaching them in an email.

Dare2Blink says:

What makes you think that without a file explorer its impossible to attach files to email? it could simply take you to the office hub and let you choose files from there. When you receive the same thing would happen (files will go to the office hub)

ThatsAwesome says:

Hmmm... May be.. I understand you are saying, when we are attaching mail, we will first get an option to choose ppt, doc or photos. If we select photos then gallery, else we will be redirected to office hub.

sounds good. Lets see how that gets unfolded. Its a welcome feature voted by me along with ability to have background image for start screen.

winphoneng says:

It's a camera made by Nokia.

Chemilinski says:

A downloadable camera which you print.

Wicho80 says:

N(SA)okia Camara XD

Nokia is a great Camera oem....

Xanthurum says:

I guess the new unification of pro camera and smart camera...

erzhik says:

That's how Nokia will keep an eye on you.

Courtney S says:

Nokia is combing features of two (maybe more?) of it's currently existing camera applications into one app for ease of use.

Courtney S says:

Well, I was late to the party, haha. I opened up the link an hour ago but I only just commented because I had to get some work done. But yeah, see the link above by Nawzil.

rodneyej says:

But, what are they talking about with the new resolution❓ The 920 will support three medium tiles now❔

ThatsAwesome says:

I don't think thats ever going to happen.

Fade_z says:

Well it does say so in the article, mister 
And the screen itself is large enough, also supports 1080p

ThatsAwesome says:

Its unferstanle that 1520 os getting it. But i was talking about 920 here...

he_shark says:

Looks like new tile sizes with everything 2/3* the current size. The large tile is replaced by a medium tile, with room for 3 on a row or a medium and a full tile. Someone posted a "dummy" jpeg with the new layout last month in the forums, it works well on the 920. It does make the small tile a bit small, but I think it's worth the trade off to display more tiles.
* Maybe not 2/3, but probably and I'm too tired to work it out.

There's no "new" tile sizes. Just, on WXGA and above devices, the start screen will allow for more tiles per row (in essence, the tiles are "shrunk", however, that word is inaccurate. Its more like on windows 8, where devices with a larger resolution have more room for tiles, and Windows Phone 8 is currently "blowing up" the tiles to fit the screen, and GDR3 will more accurately reflect the display size on the start screen. At least, that's my understanding.)

tj321 says:

It might be a case of 5 row for 720p and a 6 row for 1080p - that would make a fair bit more sense. A 720p 4.5" screen could easily fit a 5th row and still be comfortably large.

DrewT3 says:

Does custom tones for text, email, etc mean that I can add a custom tone to my phone that is used for all text messages, or does it mean that I can add custom tones to a contact so that her text messages sound diffferent than text messages from other people?

Sumit8 says:

"Close apps by tapping on the X on top right in multitasking view"
this is stupid. Should be swipe down like on Windows 8

2tomtom says:

Totally agree.
Hate x's......looks like Android.....swiping is the way!

indieimprint says:

That email attachment thing is huge.

thaman04 says:

Omg, I didn't even realize we couldn't do that lol... yes this is huge!

Nawzil says:

Yes, but I used SkyDrive for that.

npoe says:

Last weekend I found out that too after using WP7 since the begin... luckly I had my PC a few meters away from me.

RyanAMG says:

This is a very welcome addition

K Raghu says:

Does it mean we can files and folders now?

dnmartin98 says:

Yes, finally.  It has always astonished me that a phone with office on board does not allow you to email the files you produce oe edit.  Lets hope it also allows you to attach from Skydrive which is very important. Sharing from Skydrive is not always appropriate. 

Evan Thomas says:

Um... Maybe it's just me, but I just went to the Office Hub, opened a file, and tapped Share in the menu, and it let me email it...

fbendotti says:

I think they mean when replying directly in an email

scdkad says:

+1000. That's the way I've been doing it. Not sure what everybody's problem with sending documents..

chmun77 says:

And that's only allows you to attach 1 office file at a time, which is lame. I hope now we are able to attach multiple office files.
And I'm still waiting patiently for a light wight file manger to allow easier file namagement.

Murani Lewis says:

Yes the email attachment is the biggest benefit to me right now. Custom tones is cool too but not something i've been clamoring for.
The Nokia Camera app should be helpful to a lot of people as I rarely use the Smart Camera app. With it folded into one camera app it'll be easier to use its features.

npoe says:

Tones are important for me becasue my wife, my 2 brothers, my parents and some friends use Nokia WP... only my sister doesn't (Galaxy III). So, there is a lot of confusion when an email, message or notification arrives.

But we can already choose different sounds for ringers, text, voicemail and email.  If yours sound the same as the rest in your family just change them.  
I think the update must mean you can choose a unique sound based on who sent you the text,voicemail,email etc. so that you know who it's from just based on the sound.

npoe says:

We know that part but sounds are similar and not everyone is musician to differentiate between similar sounds.
As a friend of mine said one time. You know when someone has a WP without looking by the characteristic sound of a message.

BCH says:

I've been pining for this since 2010. Thank God MSFT listens and responds so quickly. Now if we could get native calendar search, I'd be a real happy guy.

Macco26 says:

Not native, but I just discovered today the app Unify does just that and more. And free! Yay!

BCH says:

I found Unify a little flaky in calendar search, though it is nice enough for searching music albums.  I have used "Calendar Search" for a little more than a year.  In fact, I specifically asked the developer if he would make the app.  He turned it out about a month later.  It works pretty well, probably as well it could work given the limitations of WP8.  A native app would be faster and have live filtering like email search.

We need full phone search like iOS - this has been around way to long to not have it on WP...

Macco26 says:

Incredibly that's what that app does: files, photos, album names, music, contacts, calendar. Just can't search for local installed apps (seeks the store instead)

Nice nice, I'll have to check it out. Would still like to see it baked into the OS but I guess if there is an app, that will suffice for now. Thanks for the heads up.

Calendar search is not a feature I have missed thus far, but I do miss having a week view and being able to see more than one appointment on the live tile. It wouldn't be so bad if third party developers were allowed to modify existing appointments because there are some nice calendar apps out there, but when I need to modify an appointment I always have to revert back to the native app.

MS needs to either give me a fully functional calendar or allows third party developers to give me a fully functional calendar.

Macco26 says:

Already has been possible. Not from the email client but from Office, long press, share option. This new way will allow the dumbest to find it, plus adding different things in the same email, I'd recon.. ^_~

aafa says:

which is sad that this wasn't a feature since WP8's release. I'm kinda cringing when I'm reading comments about folks getting excited about this 'feature' like it's a new thing.

chmun77 says:

Can you attach word doc from email client currently?? Not that I can do on my 1020. Furthermore, attaching from Office hub limits only to 1 office file per email. Try it if you don't believe.

pookiewood says:

Totally shocked this isn't available now!

Macco26 says:

It is. Just people fear to click SHARE over their office files..

tk-093 says:

No, it really isn't available now.  Sure it is in a brand new email, but that does not cover a ton of situations.  There is no way to attach a document to an email chain.  Huge missing feature, imo.  Glad to see it finally show up.

Jf.Vigor says:

Okay example... You are having an email chain with a job head hunter. And they ask you to send your resume. You can go to the office hub and hit share (creating a new email chain... Inconvenient). Or you can use this more natural method of replying to his email and attach what he requested.

nelsonecm says:

If you tap share in any document it attaches automatically in an email.

But this is a very half-assed way to do attachments. Why did it take so long (and it's still not confirmed if this is the case) to make it possible to select documents to attach from within the email app and hopefully to be able to add attachments while replying to an email string. This boggles me.

ThatsAwesome says:

That is simply because wp8 lacks a proper file explorer to choose files. Since there is no news on inclusion of file explorer in gdr3 i don't think this feature will come to Wp in gdr3

omg get out of here with your file explorer pipe dreams its unecessary.

KoreyTM says:

Wish there were the ability to attach MULTIPLE files in one email. Now THAT would be a huge step!

CJ Thunder says:

Now that is the issue, not one file but multiple files, that aren't pictures.

R0bR says:

Yea, I hope that is what they mean. From email you can attach but it only goes to your pictures, should be able to access your office docs or pdfs from there also.

Abrar Shaikh says:

Desperately looking forward to it

smogg9 says:

in the photo there's a lumia 920 from at&t, i dont want to get my hopes high but what if at&t is going to release gdr3 instead of amber? ... *reality check* or, you know, release amber and wait until december to release gdr3 and around may wp 8.1

nohra says:

I hope we get GDR3 somewhat on schedule once they FINALLY push GDR2... errr! 
Does anyone have a link to what these new tile sizes will look like on 920? That's been intriguing...

RyanAMG says:

Sam did a article a long time ago and showed on a 920. I liked it.

nohra says:
I think I found it... is this a 920? I guess I always thought it looked bigger, like it was the 1520, than a 920, but maybe the tile size threw me off..
If that's what awaits us in GDR3... ATT better PUSH IT ON TIME!!! That looks sweet!

smogg9 says:

damnn, that looks sweet ...i cant wait to have gdr3, but...i'd have to 

Looks like the tiles are closer together and closer to the edge too.

treetownal says:

Can anyone let me know how, and if, I can get this when it comes out if I'm using an unlocked ATT 1020 on T Mo? 

K Raghu says:

Welcome to the list of people still waiting for GDR2 updates, once we get GDR2 update for 920 then we can talk about GDR3 sometime December 201(3???)  may be

treetownal says:

With all due respect, I have GDR2 and I'm interested in learning how unlocked phones get updates, if at all. 

K Raghu says:

Or may be you can flash it like other people did for GDR2

lantern20 says:

I think if it's an AT&T device it get's updated when AT&T pushes out the update, regardless of whether or not it's unlocked.

treetownal says:

Thanks all!  That is good news.  I sympathize with the slow updates to the 920. 

JackG058 says:

K.R., I think you meant to say December 2014 for GDR2 AT&T 920 updates. :-(

You are being over-optimistic...

Quin 2013 says:

I've been saying for a while now that gdr2wasnt going to happen til gdr3, I'm sure att will release it on time for 920 users.

mase123987 says:

An AT&T 1020 unlocked still gets its' updates from AT&T, even if you are using it on another carrier.  So, you would get it whenever AT&T releases it.

Even if you are in France? My sister is going and is buying the 1020, and wants the updates when she is there.

Raesu says:

1020 already has GDR2.

I meant that will she get GDR3 if she bought a locked ATT 1020, went to France, and when the update would come for the 1020, for her to receive it?

Raesu says:

If she bought an ATT 1020, you could only use it in France as an ATT roaming device (stupid expensive). You could ask them to unlock it but that is a gamble. Either way, the firmware will be ATT firmware so will only be updated when ATT feels like doing so.
Strongly recommend she buys a 1020 from a non-carrier retailer. Avoid the bloatware, branding, firmware modifications, and likely be among the first to get GDR3.

No, I mean if she buys a locked 1020 and unlocks it, can she still receive the update when the carrier rolls it out?

_Emi_ says:

those are different things... unbranded and Unlocked for example, I dont live in US but I have ATT phones. thats because its unlocked, but i was always restricted to AT&T updates....
of course I could get a wp7 phone unbranded, after unbranding it... it received the updates immediately.
so if you unlock your phone you would be able to use other carriers sim on it, but it will not change the brand part, unless you buy an unbranded 1020, or find away to hack the registry to unbrand the phone (which i dont know if its possible), and im sure there are other options available for doing that
so yeah your sister or whatever, will get the update. but you know, ATT is slow releasing it, thats why unbranded phones are better.

Unless you flash the ROM directly, once an AT&T phone always an AT&T phone. Doesn't matter if its locked or not. If you bought one from Rodgers for example, then same thing, it would always get updates from Rodgers. The only way to change this would be to flash it with a ROM from a different carrier.

PicodeGalla says:

I am on Tmob with the AT$T 920, in the US, so yeah getting fum bucked (patent pending) pretty good by AT$T.
Two questions...
What would happen if I flashed my AT$T 920 with T-Mobs 925 firmware? Brick, too risky, or success?
When you flash the ROM is it just WP8 or is a flash from a carrier like Roger?  For example, what would show up on the splash screen when I turn the phone on.

Rick Smits says:

Just wait.. Its a minor update and it will be out sooner or later. people are impatient nowadays

npoe says:

I think that it would be safer to flash it with a different carrier Lumia 920. My 920 had a  Telcel ROM (Mexico) and flash it with a France Country Varian ROM. It was a different product, Telcel 920 is a RM-820 and the ROM I'm using is for a RM-821... everything works great.

Although I think that going for a Lumia 925 ROM is going over the board.

Divjot Singh says:

Exciting if true!

DontHate707 says:

Seems like a nice little update to hold us over until 8.1
I'm hoping it comes in early November for my t-mobile 925.

thaman04 says:

Little update? This is actually quite a huge update compared to previous GDR updates we've been getting :)

No bluetooth le is a let down. As much as i feel that MS has the potential to become a significant competitor to ios and android, i think they are just too slow with everything.

thaman04 says:

They said Bluetooth is coming... so if not in GDR3, it'll definitely be there by 8.1

I know its coming, but as I said, I feel that they are just too slow in dishing out features, especially given that they are well behind ios and android. I love my L920, the interface is beautiful, its buttery smooth but its lagging in terms of some essential features. And its not even enough to get these features, MS has to bake in things that ios and android dont have for ppl to jump in.

OldMillXxX says:

I would rather wait and have it work correctly than release it 'buggy' just to get the marketing feature set.
"Build it GREAT and they will come..."

Robert Grant says:

Build it late and they won't.

Braumin says:

quoted from the article:
We should note that this is not a full changelog either for GDR3 and there are presumably other under the hood fixes included as well i.e. a lot of little things that help your everyday experience but aren’t as attention grabbing.
There's nothing saying here LE is not going to be supported.


RyanAMG says:

They said this isn't the full list. And if it isn't it will be in 8.1

Jordan Mills says:

And a bluetooth HID profile.  They removed it before WP7, and still haven't put it back in.  I think WP is the only mobile or desktop platform that does not support standard bluetooth keyboards!  It's killing us.

Chris Poland says:

Agreed. 100% agreed. This topic was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.  Going away from Windows Phone until they can catch up.  I feel neglected as an early adopter.

Ok, I seriously hope that the new quantity of tiles are optional for actual phones!! I don't want to my tiles be sooooo small on my Nokia Lumia 920 screen!!

Cormango says:

I do. I'm excited!

thaman04 says:

I'm sure it will be... maybe it'll let you select your resolution. I for one can't wait for the 3 medium tiles... I feel the 2 medium tiles are too big on my 920.

RyanAMG says:

Same on my 928

reprod3 says:

I agree with you. The medium tiles is perfect on the screens of the 92* series.

Jaafarj says:

On my 620 they feel big! lol.

Especially since they have a lot of empty space. Wish they would make a 1x4 tile or 1x2 tile! That would be super space efficient!

Big tiles=lame tiles...except for Amazing Weather HD's large tile ;)

anseld1986 says:

Definitely in agreement - while plenty of people will be all about the smaller tiles, I guarantee there will be an equal number that will have trouble with them being shrunk. MSFT keeps touting the start screen as being such a personalized facet of Windows Phone, and this would be a perfect customization option - but don't force it on people that don't want it!
Best case scenario will be an option to toggle between a start screen width of "2 Medium Tiles" and "3 Medium Tiles."

Nawzil says:

It will be optional, don't worry.

scooby boom7 says:

is there no chance for WVGA (480x800) to get d extra tile option ? :(

Nawzil says:

No, I have a Lumia 820 too.

Jaafarj says:

I want those extra tiles on my 620! :(

Or just give us an extra start page to slide to! :-D

Go go gadget updates!
Alot of these will be welcome and address alot of issues with WP8. Glad to see the updates are coming regularly and addressing alot of common issues.

pressstart says:

That's a nice feature list! Looking forward to it!!!

Looking good! No double wide tile though? Shucks! Or should I say extra wide tile..

RyanAMG says:

Still a double wide or are you hoping for a triple wide?

Yeah, triple wide, extra wide whatcha call it lol

That list seems to cover most of what people complain about on here.  Nice update!

qsr786 says:

WUHOOO 3 Medium Live TIles on a row!!!! :D:D:

How about separate volume controls?

reprod3 says:

Yes... Thank you...

That's what I was hoping for. That and a decent calendar.

DropPass says:

"Attach Office files (.doc, .xls, .ppt) and .pdf files in email."

Excellent!!!  I had a serious issue with this a couple of months ago and had to resort to using gmail to get the job done! :P 

MediaCastleX says:

Well, technically you could still send them, just not more than one at a time...everyone should really be more specific. =[

Ultimateone says:

Now this is one update that is actually exciting to wait for!
Is the battery percentage in this update?

That's what I'm wondering. I thought I saw a previous update saying battery percentage would be in GDR3. Please oh please...

Raesu says:

Battery percentage has always been visible in settings. Nit sure why its so hard to put that number in the status bar.

FBirraque says:

Battery percentage and BETTER SKYPE INTEGRATION with People Hub and Messages. It's unacceptable still needing to intall an external app.

All well and good, but will we get it before 2014? Sending files FINALLY, sky drive links don't work on my work pc

iGeorge23 says:

You just HAD to put a picture of an AT&T Lumia 920 in the post...

thaman04 says:

Now THIS is an update! :) I can't wait!!!

clappenings says:

Ok, bring it on please. Let me know when it's on Nokia Servers & it's Flash time :)

awneze says:

Microsoft has to figure out why the WP8 OS zaps battery, its NOT power conserving at all. Compared to iOS and Android

iOS is unmatched for battery. I disagree with you *severely* regarding Android. I'm running 4.3 pure on an HTC One...NOT impressed with battery in the slightest. Windows Phone falls in between both.

mase123987 says:

With Android, it really seems to be more on a case-by-case basis given all the different phone specs and skins running on top of it. I would say they are pretty close though with some Android phones being much better.

rockstarzzz says:

iOS is better than WP for battery? :o

DavidinCT says:

I dont agree with that at all...My Trophy was great (at least a day with tons of videos, texts, games and a few calls) same with my 928. I can do all that and still get like 2-3 days out of my 928 if I dont charge it...(I'm strict on what runs in the background, only apps I use every day)
My wife has a iPhone(4S) and so does my brother(5), both are always charging their phones and I think I use my phone more during the day than both of them.

kullkid92x says:

I do not agree with this either. Perfect case, especially now with iOS7, me and my little brother, I have a Lumia 925 he has an iPhone 5.

Today(and every other day) I disconnect my phone from the charger at 9am for class, he disconnects his at 7am(for highschool) and we both get back home around the same time this semester (around 3pm) and it is not even close. I can add on those extra two hours and its still not close.

I don't plug in my phone again until 1AM or so, he needs to plug it in around 9PM and we have very similar apps installed on both devices (twitter, instagram(6tag), facebook, two emails each) he has a lot more games than I do cause I don't play games except poker lol but I ask him if he plays during his time at school or if he plays music and he doesn't. When he does he has to charge the phone as soon as he gets home lol

Anywho, I do not think iOS7 performs very well with battery as before with iOS 6 or 5. And as far as Android goes, I have a Evo LTE with 4.1 and Sense and that device lasted me just as long as my Lumia 925 is lasting me now, people say it was cause Sense 4 stopped processes in the back very quickly, but w.e lol it was awesome on battery.

xconomicron says: One gives me significantly less battery life than my 1020.

WinFan1 says:

Yeah Dan I gotta agree with the others my 925 is unmatched against my iPhone and android.

Montpbm says:

Mines only does that when playing a game

I agree with you as far as the battery zapping goes. My 920 will have a full battery and then I can literally watch the battery meter go from full to 10% in 1 second! It doesn't happen alot but when it does, it pisses me off soooo bad! Sometimes I can turn my 920 off and then back on and I'll gain about 20% battery back. I just don't understand :/

Chelsey Love says:

when is android a power conserver?
i have a tablet (samsung tab 3) and was even known when i worked with cellphones when they first started coming out that all apps on androids never actually close out unless you stop them, so they continue to run even if you have the app/task killer. i actually charge my tablet more so than my phone (925) which closes out apps normally when you push the back button. 

however with windows, have you checked your background apps that are running? some of them you can block, and keep off or until you use that app again, while some will always run that you cannot stop unless you delete the app that does. sometimes if you hard reset your phone as well that can fix a battery drainage issue from a setting internally though thats normally a last resort if it continues. i hope that helps in fixing your battery issue

MediaCastleX says:

Well done, thank you very much... ;)

I always close out any apps that are running and then only background task I have running is Amazing Weather HD. I've tried hard resetting billions of times and it never works. The last time I did a hard reset, my 920 got stuck in rotating gears for over 48 hours. That blew and I don't want to have to do it again just to have nothing happen and it get stuck again.

Also I've been a Windows OS user for years now so I'm not new to the game by any means :) It just sucks because I love Windows and my 920 but I just need things fixed and I want to feel like Microsoft cares what we want. I feel like they rush into it and don't think things through before they release a new update or a new OS for that matter. Typical Microsoft I guess.

lubbalots says:

My assumption last week with att mentioning gdr2 release in coming weeks, not week, means Lumia 920 and 820 will get whole package including GDR3.

Ratman826 says:

I want improvements in Xbox music, it lags like hell when I tried to swipe songs

rockstarzzz says:

Oh yeah! I cancelled my pass and got 80% subscription fee refunded.

mukulvdhiman says:

I hoped that three tile was for 820 too.. :/

rockstarzzz says:

I wished extra row of icons came to my iPhone 3 too :(

How come its At&t and is munufactured in india??...
as far as i know AT&T contract is not available in india.....

Ever here of flashing firmware?

rockstarzzz says:

It is available in India. Let me introduce you to the word - Internet. Say it with

thnks ill look it up, by the way just because u were bullied in high school dosnt means u have to be a jerk for ur whole life, thx anyways...

That att Lumia has GDR3, when we no got GDR2. :'(

Yakko Warner says:

Anyone else think the Nokia firmware sounds like a My Little Pony?

devize says:

will the update also increase the screen size on my 920 to accommodate those 6 tiles in a row?

Yes, your phone will grow from a 4.5 inch devices to a 5.1 inch with Nokia's new patented Stay-grow Tech. Stay away during the growing process, as it's quite violent.

clappenings says:

Do I detect sarcasm Mr Rubino? ;)

Lumia 8x says:

If you didn't detect sarcasm, you must be native Chinese.

avigyan says:

That's by far the funniest comment I have ever read on WPCentral. Rofl!!!! :D

rockstarzzz says:

Wasn't it supposed to be US only feature though?

My little ol' 920...all grown up!

Mario Grbic says:


rockstarzzz says:

Its a tiny phone. Cant do clusterfcuk.

cannon#WP says:

This is a really nice changelog for what's only suppose to be a "medium" update. They are positioning themselves to blow the competition out of the water with WP 8.1 and new devices from all OEMs. If you couple 8.1 with a lowering or outright removal of WP licensing fees, MS could take 2014 by storm.
I'm hoping that at the next MWC, they're showing 8.1 on new Samsung (upgraded S4), HTC (upgraded One), LG (upgraded G2) & Nokia hardware.

rockstarzzz says:

I bet they will screw this up only because it looks like they are so well positioned. They always drop the ball and launches become anti climax.

bkydcmpr says:

hope they will fix the overheat and in car bluetooth playback issues, the 2 most annoying things.

Adretheon says:

I didn't realize that so many phones were getting the 3 Med tiles across home screen change. I assumed that was for 1020p devices only. Either way this is a huge update. Good for MS for fixing so much stuff in one update.

meathead88 says:

We need internet sharing always on feature or at least expose us an API!

DavidinCT says:

With out charging us extra.... crap we pay for data, we should be able to use it how we want.

Deus_Irae says:

3 large tiles side-by-side on the 1020, 928, 925 and 920? I actually don't see that working, the tile sizes would all have to shrink to fit them all in on a screen that size, and I really  can't see it working. The small tiles would be minute!

Mgdunn says:

Then just don't use it?... The home screen is customizable for a reason.... Its personal preference

Deus_Irae says:

How can I not use tiles on my home screen? They're not likely to make tile-scale a toggle-able option, so their sizes are going to be reduced, whether I want 3-across or not (which on a wider screen I wouldn't mind). What I'm saying is that I think reducing the tile sizes by the necessary amount to make 6-small-across or 3-large-across would make it look cramped and messy

rockstarzzz says:

That's what we all said for 3 tile sizes and removal of gutter etc. Don't worry, we are very adaptable bunch of people.

Deus_Irae says:

I said that 3 sizes was a good idea, and I though the gutter was wasted space, getting rid of it was a good idea and let them make tiles bigger, and it didn't look daft with that big arrow floating around. What they're saying they're going to do now is cram an extra Wide-tile sized column into the same space but to achieve this, tile sizes will have to be significantly reduced (in all likelihood to smaller than they were in WP7), and on screens of the size found on the aforementioned phones, I don't see it working either visually or functionally.
So small tiles are small now right, you can get 4-across. Imagine how small they'd have to be to fit 6-across, and then imagine trying to hit one with your thumb.

shadow118 says:

the tiles on the 920 would still be bigger in terms of pixels then the ones on the smaller res phones. 480 px for 2 medium ones, or 768 for 3 (thats 240 vs 256 px per one)

Almost 2 years later and we finally get custom notifications for ringtons sms and email. The 20+ thousand people that had voted on this feature will surly welcome it.

Mgdunn says:

So... Its windows phone 8.1 that MAY.. POSSIBLY Have the folders and not faction center n stuff?