And has Microsoft? What have they shown? Other than stupidity and now cowardice?
Why the hell are disc-based games a joke? I'd rather have a physical copy of my games than to have to wait forever for them to fucking download. And plus, Sony is offering every single PS4 game as a download. Know your facts. Even the PS3 had game downloads.
I get that but your not understanding that people like sharing their games more then once..parents like saving money at gamestop...people like renting from gamefly...suddenly microsoft and you want to change that without warning or reason other then because we can. What Steve jobs did was create new products that fit a new catagory that was either not working or needed a new approach where as this is just doing it for the sake of doing it. Xbox was never broken, actually it was doing better then all the others. Why change what was never broken?
You can still download games to the console, you just can't share them or have others on your family plan play them. The small glimmer of hope in all of this is that the fast switching is a part of the hardware and has nothing to do with the game if you were to go completely disc-less.
Microsoft are very good at a great many things, but one thing they're abysmal at is PR. Credit though for saving face and making these decisions, ultimately don't think it will impact sales, but they surely, surely have to start learning from these mistakes to prevent them happening in future
This whole situation blows. I don't want to lose functionality. Can't us people who want to be constantly connected keep that functionality? I mean wtf...i was 100% behind microsofts vision on this.
The only problem with download history is when the game you're downloading to a friend's console is not the most recent, and is littered with tons of demos, movies, and other game downloads. Gotta go hunting. It would be nice if they somehow added a "favorite games" section you could put your games in for easy locating elsewhere.
*sigh* I really will miss family share, the idea was grand. Maybe a few years down the line they can come up with a solution when everybody has calmed down
Wives and GF's are like that too :)
Interesting but I fear that if I set up the qr code and put it in another room, my phone might get killed if it does not shut up in the morning.
What's funny is that a lot of the people I saw complaing about the always online feature are people who bragged about being on a particular website all the time anyway. I really hate that they just stepped back a few years and now all we have is a redesigned Xbox all because of some whiny asses who are complaining about something that isn't even a factor to them.
V Turk says:
Microsoft should by Nokia it might be there best buy
Don't need to cancel. You're not getting anything different in a gaming standpoint, besides the awesomely new Kinect features.
PS4 doesn't have these restrictions it just leaves it to developers to use whatever DRM policy they want; which is even worse.
Not HP. Dont let them near another mobile company.
...and that is why they trying to make XB1 look bad. Theory.
who isn't ;)
I hope they make it an "OPT IN" option to have there intial DRM policy. If they could somehow link the DRM policy to your Microsoft account if you choose to Opt In to the DRM policy that would be great. I believe that would appease everyone then!
Pmsl, keep telling yourself that and you might believe it, 810 is fugly
It has nothing to do about it being connected for me, it has everything to do with it being a piece of hardware I won't use. I don't do video calls over Skype and I have absolutely zero interest in using motion or voice controls, however small, during gameplay.
I'm with you on this. The lack of family sharing is kind of frustrating on the 360 already and the cost of buying 2 games is eventually going to exceed the cost of buying an extra console, and I was pretty excited about the family sharing. My husband and I love playing video games together. Now, there's no point in getting two of them. I'm still getting one, but this hurts. Really bad. I'm sure that MS got with the game publishers and figured out a way to please all of the people who were disappointed about it. My whole problem with that is most of the complaints I saw were coming from people who were "going to buy a PS4 anyway." Why let the competitors fans dictate what WE Xbox fans get? I understand they're looking out for their company and their customers, but GDI this fucking sucks.
I really would like if MS would just hand over the WP OS to Nokia, drop the other OEMs and let Nokia run the mobile division. Yes I know it doesn't make sense in the business world or how it could be done, just let me dream damn it!
You posted much the same on another post earlier, are you just here to troll?
There's like 10 games that have this issue and I think it is fair enough if you buy a cheaper device you cannot expect everything to run. It's like getting a cheap laptop, you cannot expect to play the latest games. What runs on WP brilliantly, unlike the laggy and unstable apps on cheap Android devices that don't bother with such limits.
Coming from a Samsung Galaxy where Temple Run was unplayable...
Be better to try first than if not work, change.
That be negative campaigning. Not good right now.
Terry Mason says:
Everyone is freaking okay with Steam on the computer. When Microsoft trys to go the same rout everyone starts to freaking cry, but yet everyone loves steam.
That is sadly how the world works. Imagine if those retards would just be quiet? The world would be better.
NNOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! IDIOTS!!!!! The "game discs work just like the Xbox 360" means that we will ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE THE DISC IN THE DRIVE. That is insane in 2013. I would gladly take MS' previous proposal over this totally backwards move.....
Right, because its a Windows Phone 7 game that has WP8 compatibilty.
All PS owners are PIRATES! That's why you bitched about DRM. Pirates be pirates. Thank you and F U .
We can also attribute this loss to the manipulative vocal majority media.
I know that people were not asking for it. Hence the Steve Jobs Quote.
"A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them."
It is 2013 and we will be using our game consules the same way as we used the Atari. Must have the Disk/Cartridge.
Cloud based gaming was the future. Unfortunatly, many like you just aren't ready for it.
Not wanting this is a knee jerk reaction. People didn't even fully realize what it was, but they didn't want it becuase it was a change.
Try downloading Lumia pusher and do it from there, have you tried the link from this page?
Don't think the Finnish government like the idea of lot of money outflowing abroad, it'll do all things possible to avoid such a thing, thinking even in a government subsidy.
Well the Xbox One has been #1 for a few days now on Amazon were I pre-ordered mine yesterday! So no that wasn't the case.
I agree its more a gimmick, until apple "invents" it that is
Malcolm Clement says:
Agreed. People don't realize what they might have traded for.
Do a deal but only after Elop is fired.
How about an update to the WP8 desktop app to let you subscribe to podcasts through RSS feed? Like Zune had?
Darren Walsh says:
Vevo is on wp8 too!!
The reason why the Steam model promotes cheap game pricing is cause it removed the prospects of the game developers getting nothing when a used game is sold (through outlets like Gamestop). Since there is no way to sell a used game being there are no physical disks with the Steam model, developers and publishers are willing to reduce pricing rapidly after release considering they are assured that every person playing their game purchased it with the developer and publisher getting their cuts.
With the current disk model, one person can buy a game (developer and publisher getting their cut from this sale) then they can sell it back to Gamestop and Gamestop then sells it to a new customer for $5 less than a new game, then that person can sell the same game back to Gamestop, who then again sells it for $5 less than a new game and repeat the cycle. In this situation, multiple new customers of the game have brought the game and played it, but not a single penny goes to the developer or publisher for the sales of these used game. Instead Gamestop pockets the huge profit margin delta. Thus the publishers and developers tends to keep the pricing high so that they can gain some revenue to try to keep the lights on.
The video has a WP in it...
Its good you're getting One. But don't think you saw some of the great benefits involved in the original policy, besides the 24 check in. Though benefits may out way con.
IOS with EOS would be the fastest selling phone of all time.
Source is my brilliant sense of humor. Guess the smiley face wasn't enough eh? :)
Admittedly I was only partially joking. One could certainly imagine MS complaining about how huge and fundamental the necessary changes are and how long it will take to carry them out. But, given what's at stake and their track record, I expect they'd rather just rush it out the door in a broken state and patch it later, instead of losing out on the all-important holiday season.
I don't believe I'm a troll but if you see me as one that's ok by me. I just don't remember anyone asking for all the restrictions that were imposed on the end user. If I remember correctly the PS4 was applaudedfor doing the opposite of what MS was doing. Even on the jimmy Fallon people were super excited over the lack of crazy control Sony was not imposing. So if anyone is a troll sir it would be you, the minority in this discussion.
I prefer getting it from my download history rather than finding it in the marketplace, but yeah a special location for it would have been nice.
Where does it say that family sharing has gone?
No way this deal would be good. For a reference, lets see how Moto is doing in the hands of Google....
I understand MS desires to get into the device business but they're better off building from within, not buying a firm to build for them. That Sidewinder team can't do just mice and keyboards all year long.
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