Josh Harman says:
I think most people assumed that a notification center was inevitable because MS said that it was intended in the original release of WP8 but that they had run out of time. Which would signal to me that it was coming... at some point.
I totally agree with you, Agent.
As far as the quality of comments is concerned,, it seems like WPC has made a turn for the worse since the big announcement was made... Some of these guys are getting on my last set of nerves.. They are either still bitching about the Nokia name, being over speculative, coming up with ideas that would never work, and sometimes just plain not making sense whatsoever at all... They all seem to have a "weird" name for some reason... Have you noticed this❔
Check out "dashboard" app as that has on/off status too
Well not all live tiles handle notifications properly and if they do, its whatever has happened most recently. People can crap on this project all they want, only speaks about the person. LD is a progressive thinker, great coder, and tuned into the Windows Phone users needs. More THAN you can say about most. Its a shame this didn't take off but with 8.1 supposedly addressing it, I can see why the project is being dropped. There's a lot of reasons things don't always work on Windows Phone and its not always the app itself that is the issue, it could be to many background processes. So having said that, I will not agree with most of the above posts. LD apps are always good because when they are not and LD is informed the issue is resolved. That's a dedicated developer. So kindly shut your mouths and give LD the credit they have earned. We don't need mouth breathing, paste eating, tards running off developers. KTHXBAI.
Sure it will... like the DRM.
I'm experiencing the same issues regarding FB & Disqus but more surprisingly, the Store app. For some strange reason it stopped showing updates. I'm still waiting for it to show IM+ was updated. A few days ago, Disqus, FB and Skype were all updated and I had to search them in the store myself to force the updates. I've waited 3 days for the Store app to inform me but eventually I gave up.
How about a hint. :)
I can't speak for anyone else, but I use that feature several times a day. I have 150 MB data per month, so I only switch it on when I need it. Typically that is when I'm driving, out to lunch etc. Otherwise I'm using WiFi and don't want it chewing my data in the background when the phone is locked and WiFi powers down. I would say that throughout a day my data is on for 1-2 hours total (at various intervals). I also toggle 3G on/off - I have it on when I'm driving and want fast mapping, and off if I just want email or background stuff to run (i.e. Speed isn't important, but battery life is)
James Allatt says:
Why is it? Just because you will not be does not mean other people will not. I mean just because you are not into motion control games dose nor mean other people are not.
Im not massive on them but when I have friends and family round we will often play Dance Central, Kinect Sports, Wii Sports, Nintendo land ext. Motion games are for everyone to play but Kinect is not just about motion games. For example KI uses Kinect by tracking the people in your room so if you pass the controller around and it has that users profile on the console it will auto switch to their profile and give them the configuration they use to play that game. Its only something small but for a lot of people this could be a good thing. For me it would be great for games like BF or Forza as when my brother comes round we often go on line and take turns each but we have the controller set up different for both of them games so we have to change it every turn where the new system is able to do this for you.
The problem with people who have something against Kinect only see it as a controller and it is not and could add a lot to games this coming generation but people are stuck on the past and don’t want to try new ways of playing and if it was left to people like that things would not of moved on from a joystick.
I still remember their prediction that Windows Phone would NEVER have a notification center and that they were the only option.
Maybe now I can download again some of the apps that had baked this in after they remove it after October 31st.
They had an idea... It didn't work out and it's othe developer's fault, hehe, got to love the logic on that one.
Daniel Rubino says:
The thing is, a Notification Center for WP by Microsoft was never a sure thing. I'm not sure why so many of you are confident that it was. Even after the leak in June, Microsoft pulled the feature from 'Blue' builds and many were unsure that it would come back, or if so, in what form.
I hear ya. We will see if they have learned and progressed.
I had this but honestly never used it since I have all the live tiles I need pinned (hence why I don't really care if WP lacks a Notifications Centre either).
Still, it was a very good effort from them...the thing that bothers me is the fact that they throw the towell because other WP developers weren't responsive at all.
WP doesn't have the amount of Apps and features that Android and iOS have. So one would think that it was in the best interest of the WP developers to cooperate as much as possible with one another.
But it's not the first App to have these problems. Skinery Themes (formerly Skinery Tiles Pro) also faces this kind of problems with some developers who don't answer at all a simple request for integration. The developer may not like Skinery, but would it hurt to cooperate and integrate the App so that its users who like the service could benefit from it? I don't think so. Yet, here we are...
(Skinery, luckily, also has the support of Nokia and can serve to create shortcuts to some settings so fortunately it won't be going anywhere for the same reasons, I think)
I'll say it again... they should have gone for the 499 pricepoint with solid hardware (something like a custom 7970), not cameras and fluff.
So far this generation is pretty disappointing hardware-wise, the last one was a graphical leap over everything else... this time we are stuck mid range PC for god knows how many years.
Kinda had it coming. Not trying to knock on their effort - the platform was nicely done and robust enough. It's Achilles heel was always the "convincing other devs to add this in" - that was always going to be a tough task. Microsoft, even though it is the OS creator, has issues getting developers to keep up to date with the new features so what's a third party? Moreover, this was done through Liquid Daffodil's own servers, exposing your app to them so notifications could be delivered. Doesn't take a genius to recognize why some people would be wary of that.
Always thought it was kinda nice as a inbred system for LD but not practical as something that'd replace a true first party option.
tried 20 minutes the download didn't start, it must be really crowded.
quantum tao says:
Feedback had nothing to do with it. All the iso's were already leaked, every developer/enthusiast/geek could have it if they wanted.
Nik Rolls says:
It was a nice idea, but poorly implemented in my opinion. One of the big things they needed to do was use push notifications rather than poll notifications (less background processes please). Also the notifications never stayed in sync with the app, so it just created another place to clear your unreads.
I think LD weren't collaborative enough with the developers who could have used it and therefore created a product that missed the mark, rather than working with them to create a system that worked well.
They won't, multiplatform development is the king now.
We'll probably see some voice commands... but you don't need a ~200€ camera for that.
It just never really worked that well for me.
Microsoft also usually uploads their new OS to dreamspark months before everyone can get it and I just checked again and still no Win8.1 Pro on it..... :(
Wow 8.8! Good to know you can downgrade from the future! ;)
Robby Bob says:
How did you you use microsoft points on windows phone? I've been trying to see if that's possible but I haven't found a way. I made an account just to ask this question, so please let me know.
Damn, I want the RTM too. Waiting until October is too much for one human. ^^
You mean a part of the system like all the DRM bullshit?
Looks like the flipped the switch just fine.
LOL The problem is not so much that they do the 180º turns, is that they announce the stupid ideas before.
However, have you thought that all these "announce X then revert to Z" may be a marketing stunt? Think about it. Microsoft has still a bad reputation from the years where they monopolized computers and software in general. With these stunts, they announce awful things, wait for the consumers to protest and then come and change to what the consumers want, passing the idea along that they care a lot about consumer feedback and that they are in it for the users.
It is a clever scheme, certainly. And, to a degree, I think it's actually working. Again, the XboxOne is a good example. Every since they reversed those stupid DRM policies, the attacks on the console came down and sales went up again.
Seriously, the only thing that is going to change will be that instead of Nokia being stamped at the top of the front of the device it will say Lumia, and somewhere on every Lumia smartphone it will say Microsoft,, probably very small.. Other OEMs will carry on business as usual with no change..
Windows Server 2012 R2 mate. :)
You mean swipe to the LEFT, I assume.
But yeah, I like that idea more, just put a notification shortcut in the top of the App list.
"The Windows 8.1 Enterprise SKU will be available to MSDN/TechNet and volume licensees before the end of September."
This makes me very happy. :)
Innovation is a funny thing. Everyone says they want it but are rarely willing to accept it unless it falls within their comfort zone.
Yeah me too!
They might want to save the "swipe right" motion for something else. Personally, I'd much rather see them use this for slide-show like content on large tiles.
That's not to bad, not bad at all❗... I can see that being considered by Microkia..
So, they just didn't make the deadline for meaningful RTM, and now it's a presentable product?
I agree fully. Nokia have always had amazing hardware. Look at the n95 at the time nothing was near it but the software is what let it down and since then it has been down hill for the software. I was all about HTC from the day I got my touch diamond 2 and all the way to getting the HTC titan. I decided to have a change after that and got a Lumia 900 and I loved it I did miss the bigger screen on the titan but everything about it as just better from the battery life to the screen. I now have the Lumia 925 and for me its up there with the iphone, htc one and sony phones in terms of looks and design’s. But add the camera and the nokia exclusive apps on wp you have to say why would you look at anyone else’s wp.
I hope Microsoft carry on what Nokia were doing but I also hope they make a surface line of phones too as having a phone designed like the surface would be the phone I want the most followed by the Lumia desig
die die dieeeeeeeee!!!!!!
Without having read the article I feel I can respond appropriately:
"What?! Microsoft changed their minds again. This obviously is an example of a poorly managed company that is doomed for failure. This has completely ruined my life"
"What?! Microsoft refused to change their minds again. This is an obvious example of a company that refuses to listen to its customers. This has ruined my life"
that's about how these go right?
Then that's what you shall have, my son... Because that's the way it's gonna be❗
Continental manufactures the RNS head units for VW. Seeing as though VW plans on making huge sales gain in the US, this pretty awesome news.
The way they've been working on 8.1 though, RTM isn't what it used to be. Expect a number of day one patches to be released on GA.
How does it offer a better experience?
Sure, all of the youngsters are going to buy a device called the "office phone""... Windowsphone will do just fine.... Because ⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇
As long as you're going from 8.8 to 8.1 RTM then you can upgrade fine. You only have to reinstall apps if you're going from the preview to RTM.
Why is the title says back down, it sounded like a coward. How bout MS listen to feedback
Yes, but a company that is wrong on so many things in the first place and needs to "listen" to understand them (despite those things being so clear to everyone) is still in trouble.
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