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5 years ago

Treo Pro Case Round up. Part Two: Vertical Cases

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In Part One of this three part series I reviewed horizontal cases for the Treo Pro. Now we move to vertical cases for the Pro. Which style of case is best is purely subjective, often changing from individual to individual. While the horizontal case rides higher on the hip, the vertical case extends below the belt line. Some find this to be uncomfortable while others prefer the narrower width.

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5 years ago

Verizon Touch Pro: Different (and Slower?) Than Sprint's Version

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Apologies for the two-post-in-a-row on the Verizon Touch Pro, but BGR's recent leak and some reports, conversations, and investigations here at WMExperts lead us to a disappointing conclusion: It's looking more and more likely that the Verizon Touch Pro could to be slower and less powerful than the Sprint Touch Pro.

We're going to go a little slowly here because we haven't seen the Verizon Touch Pro in person so we can't be definitive. What we'll do is build the case that the Verizon Touch Pro isn't identical to the Sprint version, which isn't the standard modus operandi for these sorts of things, then we'll get into the performance issues.

In other words, there's a lot to dig through here. Join us after the break.

Processor

We've confirmed via Hobbes' review that the Sprint Touch Pro sports the Qualcomm MSM7501a proc clocked at 528MHz.

According to BGR's leaked documents and what we've seen elsewhere, the Verizon Touch Pro has the MSM7500A clocked at 528MHz. You can read up a bit on the MSM chip series in our Insider Interview, but for now, the only functional different that we know of between the MSM7501a and the MSM7500a is that the MSM7501a is the special version of the MSM7500a that was developed to help get around all those Broadcomm patent problems we've been tracking over the course of the year. Even though the import ban has been vacated (for now), it's a safe bet to say that the Verizon Touch Pro was in development well before that happened and nobody wanted to take a chance. So Verizon could have gone with the MSM7201a like the Sprint version, but it looks like they went with the MSM7500a for whatever reason. They can do that, it turns out, because Verizon agreed to pay Broadcomm the blood money licensing fee to import the chips in question.

Finally, we're confident in saying that, despite earlier reports, the Verizon Touch Pro will be clocked in at 528MHz.

Got all that? Bottom line: the Verizon Touch Pro has the MSM7500a and it's clocked at 528MHz. Which is one part of building the case that the Verizon Touch Pro is not identical to the Sprint version.

Keyboard and Body

If that doesn't convince you that the two aren't identical, how about your lying eyes? Here's an image of the Verizon Touch Pro courtesy of Phone Arena:

Count the keys there, 5 tall by 10 wide, minus your spacebar taking up two to get 49 keys. Here's the Sprint Touch Pro courtesy of Hobbes' Sprint Touch Pro Gallery:

5 tall by 12 wide, minus extra spaces taken up by shift and space, brings up up to 57 keys. Add in the fact that we've got a square body compared to Sprint's rounded body and, well, we have what appear to be fundamentally different devices.

Memory

Finally, there are the reports of differing memory. We have pretty much confirmed that the Verizon Touch Pro has 192mb RAM and 512 of ROM compared to the Sprint Touch Pro's 288/512. While 192mb should be plenty, when you throw TouchFLO into the mix things get a bit dicier. Still, that's not enough for us to say that the Verizon Touch Pro will be slower.

In all, we have different processors, different keyboards, different bodies, and different memory. The Verizon Touch Pro is not the same thing as the Sprint Touch Pro, rebranded for Verizon. Finally, there's the grainycam video of the Verizon Touch Pro.

Performance

Now, finally, we get to the nut of what we wanted to say here: we've received a couple hands-on reports that claim that the Verizon Touch Pro feels slower than the Sprint Touch Pro. Now, these things are very subjective and likely based on fleeting interactions, but there it is. We also see a forum post by 8notime PDAPhoneHome that adds to the pile:

I got to play with a Verizon Pro today and am said to report that they crippled it quite a bit. It uses a Qualcomm 7500 Processor & has 192 Mb of RAM. It was not as responsive to finger swipes/presses and really lagged in rotating the screen when you opened the keyboard.

It is also taller and very square.

The TF3D is a horrible shade of grey with red highlighted icons.

Why Verizon and/or HTC decided to make an entirely different model for Verizon than they did for Sprint (or, alternatively, a different model for Sprint than they did for Verizon, depending on which went into development first) is beyond our ability to explain. These sorts of strategic decisions are better made by people who actually work for these companies and understand the internals better than we. Perhaps it's related to Verizon's agreement with Broadcomm, perhaps it's something else.

We also can't say for sure that either the processor or the smaller amount of RAM accounts for these reports of slower performance. Performance on Windows Mobile devices is dependent on way too many factors -- from ROM Build to clock speed to installed software to, as we say, the phases of the moon -- for us to say that the Verizon Touch Pro is “crippled.”

All we will say is that we're going to have to watch this thing closely on its November 24th release. It's not a safe assumption that it will look, act, or perform exactly like its Sprint or AT&T cousins, it will have to stand on its own.

Update: Oh yeah, one last bit. We expect the Verizon Touch Pro to have GPS, we also expect it will be locked to VZW Navigator and not available to other apps like Live Search or Google Maps. We're less sure on that one, so cross your fingers.

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5 years ago

Touch Pro to Hit Verizon Nov 24th, Stores Dec 1st?

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Looks like Verizon will join Sprint and AT&T in offering HTC's latest and greatest, the Touch Pro. Engadget Mobile snagged the internal document detailing a November 24th launch and December 1st store-availability. The price will be steep at $350 after all the mail-in rebates and a 2 year contract.

Phonenews has the launch date and price set the same. They're pegging the RAM (though they list it as ROM) at 192MB, which is the only difference we can see, spec-wise, from the Sprint model. It seems a little odd to us that HTC would make two different CDMA versions of the Touch Pro, but that's the latest info out there right now. The processor is not “crippled,” as we told you before, hopefully this 192mb spec will turn out to be false as well.

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5 years ago

PSA: HTC's ExtUSB Works with Regular MiniUSB

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Now that the Sprint Touch Diamond, Sprint Touch Pro, and HTC Fuze on AT&T are out, we have a quick Public Service Announcement that may strike some as unnecessary and others as essential. These devices (and others including the T-Mobile G1) have a port that HTC calls “ExtUSB,” which stands for “Extended USB.” It's a special kind of MiniUSB port that happens to have some extra pins in there for audio-out and (in some cases) video out.

Here's the PDA: Standard MiniUSB cables and chargers work just fine with ExtUSB, even though it doesn't look like it when you look at the port on the phone. We've been getting reports from people that these plugs sure don't look compatible and we don't blame them, because it's true that they don't necessarily look it. But they are, just plug that MiniUSB in and away you go charging or syncing.

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5 years ago

HTC MAX 4G Announced: WiMAX, GSM, 480x800, Russian-Only

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Remeber that T8290 that leaked out last month? We don't blame ya if you don't -- it's a device that is slated only for the Russian Market. Still and all, it's a very interesting device as it's the first real Windows Mobile Smartphone we're aware of that packs WiMAX. HTC has announced it will be available on November 26th and, well, you should be jealous.

The MAX 4G sports GSM and EDGE, sure, but it also does WiMAX and VOIP on the Scartel (aka Yota) network. It also sports a massive 480x800 screen, video on demand, WiFi, an accelerometer, 2 cameras, FM Radio, and a 1500mAh battery to power the whole thing. The entire package fits into 113.5mm X 63.1mm X 13.9mm, which makes it a very tall and thick beast, (we've thown a sizeeasy comparison after the break), but nevertheless a powerful one.

Get your full specs and press release after the break. Hey Sprint: we'd love to see this on XOHM. Just saying.

Specs

  • Processor: Qualcomm® ESM7206A™ 528 MHz
  • Platform: Windows Mobile® 6.1 Professional
  • Memory: ROM: 256MB / RAM: 288MB / Flash: 8 GB
  • Dimensions: 113.5mm X 63.1mm X 13.9mm
  • Weight: 151 grams (with battery)
  • Display: 3.8-inch TFT-LCD flat touch-sensitive screen with 480 x 800 WVGA resolution
  • Network: Tri-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:900/1800/1900 MHz Yota Mobile WiMAX 2,5-2.7 GHz
  • Device Control: TouchFLO™ 3D
  • GPS: Inbuilt GPS
  • Connections: VoIP, Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g, Bluetooth® 2.0 with EDR, HTC ExtUSB™
  • Main camera: High-resolution with autofocus
  • Second: VGA-camera
  • Additional: Motion G-sensor (automatically rotating picture), Proximity sensor (saving energy while talking due to the switching the display off), FM-radio
  • Audio: Ring tone formats:AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, AMR-NB, AMR-WB, QCP, MP3, WMA, WAV, 40 polyphonic and standard MIDI format 0 and 1 (SMF)/SP MIDI
  • Battery: Li-Pol, 1500 mAh
  • Talk time: GSM: up to 420 minutes, VoIP: up to 230 minutes
  • Standby time: GSM: up to 350 hours, VoIP: up to 50 hours
  • AC Adapter: Voltage range/frequency: 100 ~ 240V AC, 50/60 Hz, DC output: 5V and 1A

Press Release

SCARTEL AND HTC LAUNCH WORLD’S FIRST INTEGRATED GSM/WIMAX HANDSET

Designed and Optimized for the Russian market, HTC MAX 4Gä Will Be Available in Russia on November 26th

Moscow, Russia – November 12, 2008 – Scartel (brand Yota), Russian provider of Mobile WiMAX, and HTC Corporation, a global leader in mobile phone innovation and design, today announced the HTC MAX 4G, the world’s first integrated GSM/WiMAX handset. Supported by a broad range of services based on Yota’s Mobile WiMAX network,   the HTC MAX 4G delivers a rich multimedia and high quality telephony experience in a sleek and powerful touch screen handset. 

“Yota was established to provide a unique set of mobile communication services to millions of people in Russia and today we have launched the first device and services to realise its full potential,” said Denis Sverdlov, General Director of Yota’s parent company, Scartel LLC (brand Yota). “We really believe that these innovative services, high-speed Internet and stylish HTC MAX 4G will completely change the communications industry, just as the introduction of cellular communications did many years ago.”  

HTC MAX 4G: A New World of Entertainment

The Yota Mobile WiMAX network offers high-speed wireless Internet access that opens a new realm of entertainment and communication possibilities. The basic Yota Home package will provide subscribers with instant access to online games, maps, messaging and file exchange applications while on the move. In addition, the high-capacity Mobile WiMAX network with traffic prioritisation algorithms, allows online films, video and TV programmes to be viewed on the large WVGA screen.

Thanks to mobile WiMAX, high-quality multimedia entertainment is no longer limited.. With Yota Video, a full video on demand (VOD) service, users can watch their favourite movies and videos from their personal Yota catalogue anytime, anywhere.

Broadcasting 14 free channels at launch and 23 channels by the end of 2008, Yota TV introduces a powerful mobile television experience. The vibrant, 3.8 inch 800x480 screen of the HTC MAX 4G can display up to nine TV channels simultaneously, allowing quick and easy channel surfing and programme selection. Thanks to the device’s TV-out capability, users can also watch content on the big screen, putting the HTC MAX 4G at the very heart of the mobile entertainment experience.

For music-lovers, Yota Music offers an extensive online music catalogue of more than 50,000 titles, including a wide range of music from both international and independent music labels. Users can choose to either play the tracks direct from the online catalogue, or download them to the HTC MAX 4G’s 8GB of onboard flash memory.

In addition, a separate catalogue of electronic books is available, so users can download, read and enjoy a broad range of books while on the move.  “The introduction of the HTC MAX 4G represents the culmination of a close partnership between HTC and Yota to develop the world’s first integrated mobile GSM/WIMAX handset,” said Peter Chou, CEO and President, HTC Corporation.  “Russia is a key strategic market for HTC and Yota’s Mobile WiMAX network sets a new global benchmark for next-generation mobile services.”  

HTC MAX 4G: Flexible Communication

The HTC MAX 4G supports GSM calls using a SIM card from any Russian network operator and when both callers are Yota subscribers, the call will automatically be routed as a VoIP call over the Yota Mobile WiMAX network. The Yota Phone service also supports more business applications, allowing users to switch between English and Russian contact records while providing functionality such as call holding, conference calling and video calling using the VGA camera on the front of the device.  

HTC MAX 4G: Unparalleled Performance With Intuitive Usability

The HTC MAX 4G was created to take full advantage of Yota’s high-speed Mobile WiMAX network without compromising style or ease of use.  The device is sleek and elegant and includes a vibrant, large 3.8 inch, 800x480 WVGA touch screen display. The HTC MAX 4G also integrates a 3.5mm headphone jack to create the best possible experience for enjoying movies, music and photos on the go. Running Windows Mobile 6.1, the HTC MAX 4G incorporates HTC’s proprietary Touch FLO 3D user interface, allowing swift and intuitive navigation to key applications such as dialling calls, listening to music, taking picture and more.  

Introduction of Yota Yap-yap

HTC MAX 4G users can now record their lives through a lens thanks to Yota’s Yap-yap service. This allows contacts to be synchronised and edited through the Web and video clips and photos can also be uploaded to www.yota.ru. Images taken with the integrated 5MP camera can also be geo-tagged using coordinates from the integrated GPS.

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5 years ago

Windows Mobile 6.5 Screenshots Surface

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Windows Mobile 6.5 Screenshots Surface

Smartphone France has scored images of what appear to be legitimate screenshots of Windows Mobile 6.5. What we're looking at here appears to be a new, sliding-panels-inspired today screen and also a pretty cool and interesting hexagon/beehive shaped shortcut screen. It's a nice change from your standard square look, though we wonder how a 5-way dpad would handle that.

The look, at least on the sliding panels portion you see at right, has a decidedly Zune-feel too it (of which we approve), and we also like that the non-selected items display information too (note the weather and the email lines).

In all, it certainly looks like 6.5 is going to give Windows Mobile some shiny, good-looking elements. It remains to be seen what sort of added functionality we'll be getting in addition to the above. Cross your fingers for that Music icon!

[via wmpoweruser]

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5 years ago

Xperia X1a Gets US Release Date and Price

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Xperia X1a Gets US Release Date and Price

Engadget Mobile has word that the phone that's been 'pending' for the US perhaps longer than any other we've been watching finally has an official release date and price. The Xperia X1a (that's the Xperia X1 with the US 3G Bands) will see US release on Friday, November 28th, for a whopping $799. That's an unlocked price, as you may have surmised, which means that as with the Treo Pro, there's no word yet on a subsidized price from AT&T. For now, it appears you'll be heading to sonystyle.com or an “authorized Sony retailer” to pick one up.

It seems like it's been an eternity since we gave the Xperia X1 an hands-on review back in April. In retrospect, it might have behooved Sony to keep the bugger under wraps a little longer. Actually, it would have probably behooved them to beat the Fuze (Full Review) to market or at least let us know a clearer release date before the Fuze came out.

Still, we now know it's coming on Black Friday and we know it's going to cost and arm and a leg. Will you be picking one up?

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5 years ago

Tilt Gets Backlight Hotfix

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5 years ago

Further musings of the Saga saga ...

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Further musings of the Saga saga ...

If you're a Verizon customer and are tired of waiting for a possible appearance of the Treo 800w, Samsung's i770 might just fit the bill. But getting it could be a little tricky.

The Boy Genius Report spied a post over at Howard Forums showing that the i770 — aka the Saga — will hit online and telesales this Friday, Nov. 14. Engadget Mobile follows up with an in-store date of Dec. 1. However, the in-store sales will be through "direct fulfillment" only at first, which basically means you order it there and get it later.

Price for the world phone — yep, it comes with a sim card, too — will be $199 with the usual rebate/contract deals.

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5 years ago

Palm Treo Pro Gets BT Bug Fix

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Palm Treo Pro Gets BT Bug Fix

If you have a Treo Pro you may be interested in this quicky patch from Palm:

If you are in an active call using bluetooth car kit or bluetooth headset and you receive a second incoming call and you let it ring or you ignore the incoming call, the call will be diverted to Voicemail. The first call remains active but you can no longer hear the caller (the caller can still hear you). The audio has been lost. If you answer the call and swap between calls or reject the call, the issue is not seen.

We have seen this bug reported in our forums for awhile and it's nice to see quick fix out there.

One word of caution: technically this is for the Vodafone/Euro version only, though we suppose it may work on the unlocked variety if you really, really need it. If not, we bet that'll be out lickity split.

More info here and a direct .cab download can be found here

Thanks marianne/roydok

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5 years ago

Iris Browser Beta 2 Release for Windows Mobile

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The internet browsing experience on Windows Mobile is almost laughable when compared to new players in the game like Apple's iPhone/mobile Safari experience. Fortunately, some third-party players have seized upon this weakness in the Windows Mobile experience and have brought to the table some very exciting products - the Iris Browser from Torch Mobile, for instance.

Iris Browser Beta 2 is now available for free download here, and with Beta 2 comes numerous improvements. According to the Torch Mobile Blog, the improvements include better performance, smaller memory footprint (by 10%), user interaction improvement, greater stability, and web page rendering improvements.

Jennifer Chappell over at TreoCentral, our sister site, has included more information about Beta 2 and further describes the Iris Browser as being iPhone-like in experience. Knowing how great the iPhone browser is, this would be fantastic to have a similar experience on Windows Mobile.

A quick download and install will show you that while that's not quite the case here, it's not half bad. We'd like to see a little more intelligent text-wrapping on the zoom view, but all in all Iris is looking pretty good -- definitely worth keeping an eye on.

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5 years ago

Samsung Epix vs. Treo Pro: Head-to-Head

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5 years ago

Review: Phone Dashboard Minute Tracker

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5 years ago

Treo Pro Case Round up. Part One: Horizontal Cases

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5 years ago

Tip of the Week: GParkS (Dude, Where's My Car?)

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Tip of the Week: GParkS (Dude, Where's My Car?)

Confession: we love cool GPS apps here at WME.

This little freebie comes from smrtdrmmr over at XDA. Long story short: this is an app that you can use to GeoTag a location (actually up to 3) and it then tells you in feet (or KM) and direction how to get back to it.

Why? Ever park your car at a golf course, far, far from the football stadium where you are catching the local game? Did you ever then spend 20 mins trying to then find you car after the game? Yeah, well smrtdrmmr did and when he looked for a WM version of the popular iPhone app "Dude, Where's my Car" and couldn't find one.

So he went home and programmed up his own version.

It's not a pretty program, but darn it all, it works as advertised. In fact, you can tag up to three objects and name each one (see pic above). To use, just launch the app (you'll need .NET CF 3.5) and that'll kick off the GPS automatically. Give it a few seconds to stabilize your coordinates and then hit "Save". Later, re-launch the app and simply click "Find" and follow the directions. Simple!

Hats off to you smrtdrmmr! More info and download here (need to register).

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