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Do you pay for games? Indie developers want to know

Are you willing to pay to play, or does a price tag on a game turn you off?

One of the biggest decisions a game developer, especially an independent one, needs to make is whether or not charge for their product. One way the other, they run risks.

A free, ad-supported game, can bring in more downloads, but runs the risk of annoying players. At the same time, a pay-to-play game seems like a sure way to limit the number of downloads you get. Of course, there’s always the in-game purchase route, but not all games lend themselves to that model.

We as consumers of mobile content are so used to getting it at no cost to them because most of the well-known apps are free, and if not, there’s usually some third-party app that does the same thing free of charge.

But the fact of the matter is that indie developers put a lot of time and effort into their product and need some financial motivation if they hope to continue creating for the rest of us. So what’s a dev to do?

Make your way over to our Windows Phone Central forums and help a game developer and fellow user understand how you feel about paying for games:

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ONLY for Xbox LIVE-enabled games. I made one exception for a developer who was very friendly and active on the forums at the time, and he even responded by mailing me a couple of nifty items after the fact.

Same here...XBL games only...I get hours of additional game play from achievement hunting. The storage on my 920 is maxed from XBL games. I rarely download an indie game because I always end up deleting them to make room for new XBL games.

I couldn't care less about "Xbox Live" achievement points, if those points actually meant something or I could use them somehow it would be different.

Until being an "Xbox Live" game means something substantial like being a cross platform game (like playing Forza on my phone, coming home and picking up where I left off on the Xbox), it means nothing to me.

Tafsern says:

I buy games on a phone to play, not to brag on XBL.

SocalTouch says:

I could not care less about XBL! I buy games all the time. I am actually not even a gamer and buy games that I think my kids will like when they play with my phone. But there are caveats -
1. I somehow cannot justify a price higher than $2.99 for a game (maybe the fact that I am not a gamer plays a part in this).
2. I seem to mostly only buy games that either have -
      a) Great ratings in store
      b) Equivalent offering on iOS and Android (to encourage more devs to bring their offerings to WP)

 

I find this argument both dumb and hilarious. People think that everyone gets Achievements for bragging rights or something, but that's just not the case. I don't ever tell others about my GamerScore. I don't tell them about this "SUPER-HARD Achievement" I got.

I don't get Achievements for any kind of bragging rights. I go after them because they are a goal I can attempt to accomplish, same as those who want to get 100% in GTA V (a game I find to be stupid as a whole). It's not about bragging rights, it's about enjoying the challenge.

coip says:

Agreed. It is quite amazing how obtuse some people can be about the "I don't get the purpose of Xbox achievements" things. Xbox integration brings with it social features that only add to the enjoyment of the game. The same game without those features is even more meaningless, yet they're content with that. Very bizarre. #SaveXboxWP

pookiewood says:

I'm in this camp.  I don't care if it's XBL or not.  I also do pay for games/Micro Transactions.  I don't play many games on my phone though.  I play Song Arc, Subway Surfer and Asphalt 8.  All great games worthy of the price/MT IMO.

 

coip says:

They do have Xbox Live games like that. They pioneered the Pause-and-Play genre: see Skulls of the Shogun and Halo:Spartan Assault as two examples.

Anyway, clearly a lot of people here only download Xbox games. So, help us make it easier for  indie developers to make Xbox games by prodding Microsoft to extend the ID@Xbox program to Windows Phone: http://forums.wpcentral.com/gamers-lounge/249754-asphalt-8-not-xbox-title-lets-mobilize-reverse-trend-savexboxwp.html

apocacrux says:

You do get discounts on XBL games by having a certain amount of gamerscore...so... There's that.

schlubadub says:

Must be US-only... I've never seen that in my life!

apocacrux says:

I'm in Canada. You just have to sign up for Xbox rewards. Go to Rewards.xbox.com to see if you have it in your country.

schlubadub says:

I'm already part of rewards and haven't seen any gamerscore related discounts... or perhaps I just haven't noticed :P

jibzoiderz says:

Same here..... Putting xbox suport actually adds to the cost of the app so please developers do not put xbox support! Ignore all the xbox losers and focus on your app! #Idontcareaboutxbox

Same here, for both Windows 8 and Windows Phone most of buy the apps I bought was Xbox games, one was an app.

I more inclined to purchase XBL games but only if the price is reasonable. I'll pay for some indie games if I hear good reviews and it's a game I will play for awhile.

Obviously, it has to be a reasonable price still. I made an exception for Spartan Assault, but I think that I did that more because it was WORTH the $6.99. I wouldn't touch any of the $6.99 GameLoft crap, nor would I spend $11.99 or whatever for Final Fantasy.

Zv2112 says:

I would like to pay only for Xbox games, but considering how little Microsoft cares about Xbox on WP, I started to actually stop paying for Xbox games and now only pay for non-Xbox games. I hope the platform dies, maybe then one day Microsoft will learn to pay more attention and invest more in its consumer side.

coip says:

Letting it die is not going to lead to its revival. The only way to save it is to prod Microsoft back into supporting it more zealously. Please consider joining the #SaveXboxWP movement: http://forums.wpcentral.com/gamers-lounge/249754-asphalt-8-not-xbox-title-lets-mobilize-reverse-trend-savexboxwp.html

Jonker3262 says:

Same here, I only pay for Xbox Live enabled games on Windows Phone and Windows 8.

TechnoTim says:

I only search using the Xbox category, just sayin.

IzaacJ says:

I purchase most XBL games, and only a few non-XBL. I actually rather spend my money on a really useful app, even if ots only useful for a couple of days xD When an XBL title is freemium I NEVER EVER pay for IAP. But I do in apps for removal of ads and/or extra features, but never in games. Games should be either totally free or a fixed purchase price. Players should not have a benefit in a game just because they have more money to spend.

jargonz says:

I also buy only Xbox Live games. I have even bought many games I wasn't initially interested in just because they are both Xbox Live and on sale (Red Stripe Deal). I have also bought expensive but popular Xbox Live games. I support developers of Xbox Live games as much as I can.

Mouthsmasher says:

Same here. The only Windows 8 or WP8 games I've purchased have been Xbox Live games. I need my achievements!

That being said, and seeing how many others are the same way, I think Microsoft needs to make it much easier and cheaper for more developers to have Xbox Live enabled games. It'd boost game sales, increase interest in the platform, and make deva happier to include it.

TechAbstract says:

I heard every update for Xbox Live games costs money. MS is too greedy.

coeus89 says:

I pay if I like the game after a free trial with limited functionality.

HomeBound12 says:

+920

Althou ocasionally I'd pay with no trial if I read the good review on the game or see a gameplay video on youtube.

I've played enough games to know right away if I'd like the game or not just based on gameplay video. (But trial is preffered...)

rianext says:

How about set a poll on this...? Instead of reading thru the all the comments the dev can jst take a look at statistics...and additionally read thru comments for more info...hw abt it WPCentral?

el-ojo says:

Sounds like a no brainer to me. Maybe that's the next step

Qazplm632 says:

I pay for game if I liked the trial or if i played it before and liked it (like I bought Fruit Ninja cause I played it on Android when it was free). And I won't pay more than 2$ for a mobile game. I'd be able to make exception and get 3$ game but not 10$. I don't live in a country where you earn a lot.

Munkeyphyst says:

Free trial is key. I will not buy a game with no free trial, no matter how cheap it is. Seems the article glossed over this fourth option

Rick Smits says:

Every once in a while.

msualum says:

Yup. I have no problem spending up to $1.99 for a good game. Usually wait for reviews (WP Central a great source) before purchasing.

DreadVenom says:

I support all devs irrespective XBL integration. As long as the game is good and supported, expect money to go to the dev.

Gohar428 says:

There is no piracy in wp or atleast i didn't found it yet...and no i don't pay for the apps..cz i don't have credit card

ymcpa says:

You need a developer unlocked phone to sideload. I haven't read anywhere that it's possible to play pirated games on WP. It's possible with a jailbroken iphone and android doesn't require any effort to sideload apps.

With a Xbox live points card you can buy games on Windows and Windows Phone

Gohar428 says:

I only use xbox on my phone..and plz tell me more

Nokia Boy says:

Yes,i think paid games with no in-app purchases are the best thing,i don't like free games with in-app purchases and annoying ads

jjmorgan64 says:

Agree, can not stand in app purchases

Xaphoon148 says:

Totally agree, really HATE in app purchases. Test version/ads and buy if any good.

I really am not fond of this f2p or fremium age. The games are rarely balanced well and quite often are just black holes for your dollars. I much prefer 1 time pay or ad supported with option to purchase to remove Ads. I too avoid games with in-app purchases unless it is for removing ads.

ebin5 says:

Never.no accounts to pay.

aerosmillie says:

I pay when the games had great reviews and I cant resist.

If it's a good game, yes.

Fleischyy says:

Ill pay for games and apps quite happily. People deserve to be remunerated for their work and I don't want adverts of bs freemium games!

Kieta says:

Not really. I'm more likely to buy lock screen apps, photo locker apps, etc before I'll buy a phone game.

Fadikun says:

I usually only buy Xbox live enabled games but will also buy a really good non XBL game if its only a buck or two

wapoz says:

I glady pay for apps (provided the app is quality).  I believe if a developer has taken the effort to make or port a quality app that takes full advantage of WP's features/design philosophy,  then they should be rewarded for that work.  I get pissed whenever I see a quality app or game released and people immediately start to bitch about having to pay for it.

JHunsaker says:

I completely agree as long as the app is of high quality and fun to play.

tkhayes says:

Too true... Why do people have a cry about paying for a app or game, just think about the time an cost involved an under taken to make develop an app...

kc77 says:

The only time I've paid for games on my phone was when I got my app credit for buying the phone. I'll stick to games that are free. They pass just as much time.

nuclax says:

Yes
If the game is good
I will definately buy it

I pay for big games like HALO, asphalt 8, MW

Xarok says:

Same for me, I've bought; Rayman, Asphalt 7, Contre Jour, Halo: SA, Skulls of the Shogun and GTA:SA.

I also have Cut the Rope, Angry Birds etc from when they were free for one day a few months ago, so didnt buy these =/

Looking at this it shows i mainly buy Xbox Games that have a trial.

MercenaryOne says:

I pay for good games, not the greedy DLC or eShop games that Facebook is known for. Give me good strategy, puzzle, or RPG games and I will buy them. There are 5,834,234,764,112,906,302,689 platformers out there and they are all junk. Unfortunately good strategy, RPG or Puzzle games don't exist on mobile platforms.

walter1832 says:

Exaggerate much?  There are at least...I don't know...3x less than what you listed there. Come on man...how will the kids fit in there?

MercenaryOne says:

I believe kids shouldn't be owning a mobile phone until they can pay for it themselves. And yeah I did exaggerate a little, there might be 1 or 2 good platformers instead of the 0 I claimed :)

DJCBS says:

If the game is an Xbox-Live game, yes. If it isn't no. I don't pay and I don't download them even if they're free.

coip says:

Same with me. I only buy Xbox Live games. I don't have time for anything else and that's what I want. I won't even download a non-Xbox Live game even if it's free.

jjspyder says:

No. I don't play many games on a phone and I only pay for apps that are useful to me, not apps to kill time. 

jeffro02 says:

I'll buy if I enjoy the trial. No trial, no buy.

AznRaven says:

I use the Bing rewards to pay for the games... All of you might as well do the Bing rewards... Its free... Save up enough Bing points and u can get the $1.50 or more and get the $3 towards the app store... Juss keep racking up the points...

sholokov says:

I do that too. But I would also pay for a good game/app. Sometimes even for just supporting the dev.

evilrobot says:

I prefer a game without ads or IAP, will gladly pay for one that doesn't have those if it is available.  I will occassionally play an ad supported game if the ad placement isn't too annoying but I despise F2P and IAP and refuse to play those types of games.

RayWP7 says:

I do. I don't play them. But I've filled my phone with games I might want to play. I target developers with active communities, good reviews, and interesting enough game play.

KoreyTM says:

Yes, I pay. But I'm especially more apt to pay if I have a free trial before making the commitment. 

Ya... Paid for 2 Games for Windows Phone. Also purchased one game for my Win 8.1 Laptop as well.

jsfx07 says:

I pay for any apps I think are worthy, of quality.

AndrewL920 says:

I have never pay a single cent in all of my PC games and Android games. NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 in Windows phone are the only games I bought. Of course it should be in a 50% discount sale.

monigal2 says:

I would pay for mortal combat, I have mostly free game, I paid for maybe two

ladydias says:

Don't really play games on my phone as I have a dedicated handheld for that and touch only games don't do much for me beyond puzzle games. Still, I have no problem paying for an app if I like it as a developer should be paid for their work. Adding a trial to your app makes it even better.

theefman says:

I'll pay for Xbox live enabled games or purchase IAPs for a free one.

7amatto says:

Im some countries, u can't pay

ronty says:

No,but I'm ready to pay.However,I don't have a credit or debit card & carrier billing is not supported.

freeman1520 says:

I got halo and modern combat

sayonical says:

Mostly Xbox live games. I don't play much otherwise. In fact I was shocked last time I went in the store and saw a lot of games I hadn't seen in early wp8 days

Anguis says:

I pay after a trial. I hate ads, and have no problem paying up front. A few IAPs that are reasonable are fine, too.

cesar ruiz1 says:

I hate Ads enough said.

I Spiritus I says:

It it's a Xbox Live title then yeah I'll pay for it, even if it's a bit more expensive.

gravage says:

I'll gladly pay for a game if it means no in-app purchases. I would much rather pay $5 and play the game the way it's supposed to be played than download one for free (or cheap) and be forced to pay $1 every time I want to start a new level or progress further. The current state of mobile gaming is sad, with EA leading the way.

xankazo says:

I pay for my games. It's just freemiums that I try to avoid like the plague. Games should be ONE payment, nothing else.

John Lampard says:

No credit card,no buy.
:( #BringmeadamncreditcardWP xD

busyman96 says:

Who in the world of 2014 doesn't have a card? How do you get your paycheck, man? In hand? Even my mother gets her pension on a card... Sorry...

John Lampard says:

Hey dude,I am underage,17 to be exact and my parents won't allow me to use their credit cards for mobile phone games. :(

Rewire says:

Yes, if there is a trial or I get a good idea of the game play from reviews.

gustavoimago says:

ads is sux, is big sux... put something interesting to buy in-game if you want to distribute it for free, but never put ads, I remove the game at the same time that the ad appears. that's my opinion.

OldMillXxX says:

Not being a 'gamer', my first reaction is no, I will not pay for games.  BUT, I am willing to pay a very small fee for a simple game to keep the youngsters in the family focused during a boring event that they are dragged to.  That being said, I guess it falls under how much time is a developer willing to donate to get it out there and how fast do they want to make their millions?

Jas00555 says:

Yes, I'll pay for a game up front. If there are annoying IAPs, I stay away. No matter how good the game is.

Chef316 says:

Yes, but only for XBOX Live enabled games! Only ever paid to remove adds on one non Xbox game.

baronlmw says:

I pay because to support their hard work.But if I found out the price doesn't deserve how the game play is.Sorry I won't pay for any of it.

BURNNER says:

Xbox live only buddy

MacDaMachine says:

Only indie game I bought was Doom and Destiny. Great game.

jlzimmerman says:

Yes, if it's worth the $.  I'm happy to help support developers who give WP good attention. 

k0de says:

Yes. If it is nice game that I like.

awesumjon says:

I'm ok with paying $3 for a good game (and with obvious hard work put into it), and even then, only games that are sit-n-play, not toilet-seat games (angry birds, doodle jump, ect). Anything above $3 and I'll probably not pay anytime soon, if at all.

Jace Nelson says:

I'll only pay if I know it's good.  Rarely do I take a leap on a game that I haven't been able to try, I'm done it maybe once or twice and been disappointed.  Free trials are a MUST!!!  I'll never do an in-app purchase.  What a joke.

Hakmi Shah says:

Of course I would pay if the game worth the money but I hate in app buying... It's like scam

Marco Gomes1 says:

Yes i do pay for games and apps and I have over 40 "Microsoft billing" emails stored, just in case. However, it's a real pain in the neck having to create and manage virtual credit cards in order to be able to buy those games and apps. I prefer when I can try before buying but the wpc reviews also come in handy when no trial is available. I also bought a few in-app items.

I pay for a game if I actually enjoy it. If its a solid game and I want to help support the developer then yes I will pay

MadSci2 says:

I won't touch a game with in game purchases, nor a game with no form of trial. Give me a free taste of the experience and if its a good one I will happily pay for it. Will buy additional Map Packs (are you listening Race and Battle?!). OK with in game Ads, as long as I can purchase a no-Ads version.

prathmfed says:

Only Xbox live games but dat too $1 games

joeynox says:

Depends how often the game is being updated. If a large amount of time has lapsed since it was last updated then definitely NO. Also depends on the quality of the game.

I don't mind paying for games, but they should be priced appropriately. I won't wonna pay 10 dollars for a phone game!! But, 3-4 dollars seems extremely fair. Again, as a one time payment; none of that in-game rubbish.

Zeroplanetz says:

I think we all love free apps one way or another. But for me I have and would rather purchase an app and be done with it over the very annoying in app purchase model. I refuse to support that type of model. Yea the devs may make more money that way can't fault them foe that, but when they want you keep spending and spending its called gouging.

poliTechnsis says:

Pay?  Yes, with a caveat.  Paying for a game only to have additional in-app purchased content sucks.  If the game's free, the in-app purchased content is a little more bareable, but only for a few dollars' worth.  My thought is that if you want to sell content separately, make separate apps, and I'll decide if the $$ is worth it on each unit of content based on separate ratings. 

I don't go for In-game shenanigans, but I'll happily shell out some cash up front for a quality game, XBL enabled or not.

Fizoto says:

I cam easily tune out ads, but if a game is good enough, it gets my money.

Fisher_9511 says:

Yes. Xbox live Games + some apps (like WPCentral)

busyman96 says:

I pay, but only if it appeals to me and if it is of quality. People that moan about some 0.99 games not being free - sorry if this might offend anybody - disgust me.

mr toes says:

I would usually not buy a game from an indie developer, usually a large one like EA/gameloft. For long games such as dungeon hunter ads in the game play are annoying but ok in the menu. For short mobile games that require short attention spans (like flappy bird) ads are perfect.

KM2612 says:

I paid for asphalt.......only to see it become free after a few days...

sholokov says:

I don't mind if that happens, as long as I believe it was worth the money when I was purchasing it.

swirl253 says:

I do pay for games like to support the people who make it and look forward to there update's to make the game better.
I have only 2 free games on my phone and I play them less than the one's I pay for.

SlicingHaunt says:

I only pay for xbox live games. Otherwose it doesmt feel worth it

rodrione says:

If they deserve it I pay for all of them and apps as well, either by buying it from the store or if they free, by purchasing something within the app/game!!

Micropel says:

Xbox live games and also the indie games that are plain awesome! I have no problem supporting any. The time that is put into a quality game deserves reward

Naresh Patel says:

I want teen Patti android game

XcZachx20 says:

I only pay for xbl games! You have to bring some pretty good games w/o xbl for me to even think of spending more than .99 cents

dreonedon says:

Good games sure

Mishi Osb says:

It all depends on the trial version first if there is one if the trial has a good impression then there's a chance that the full game will be bought

I gladly pay. A lot of cheapskates on all platforms:) However, I want quality for my money. I would gladly pay $100 for a well functioning panzer general. I love it when developers are active on forums like this.

I do for the games that deserve my money, simple as that

spinzeroWL says:

I paid for Modern Warfare 4 (Xbox Live) and Into the Dead.
I get more enjoyment from Wordament though :).
The only other apps I've paid for are ProShot and Nokia MixRadio.
I guess we are kind of spoilt on Windows Phone. Between the Nokia apps, the Bing suite and the Microsoft free games, I really don't wish for much more!
Oh, I did also pay for 6Tinder. Any news on that?!

pcleland79 says:

Being a huge fan of windows phone, I support as many developers as I can. If there's a free version I will try it and if its good I'll buy it. I have purchased more apps.than my phone can hold. Damn 810 and its 8gb... Come on t-mobile, get the 1520 or a variant of lol

Brian Pratt says:

I pay for games with the expectation that it is the only time I will be asked to pay for that game.  If your game has in-app purchases I will not buy it.  If it is otherwise incomplete I will not buy it.

I will pay good money for a 'complete' mobile game with a beginning, middle and end all included with the cost of purchase.

Dach21 says:

I will buy a game if it a good value. I've bought Contre Jour $0.99, ilomilo $0.99, Rayman Jungle Run $0.99, Crumble Zone $0.99, Fairway Solitaire $1.99. 

If we don't support these developers, the games will fizzle out and we won't have anything. Making these games isn't easy. If they were we would make our own. So take your wallet out of the safe and buy something.

Supporting the Developers = Supporting Windows Phone, which = bigger and better games and apps.

KasakDesign says:

Yes. If the game is good enough. For example, Spartan assault. Good enough to pay for. Angry birds,NOT good enough

I will only buy Xbox Live enabled games. I'll download other games on occasion or take advantage of an offer of one being temporarily free, but usually just delete it in favor of reclaiming the space on the phone.

Agent-P says:

I do if it is well done and the developer is actively supporting it.

madtourist says:

I do buy games but just a few cause I don't play much in my phone. Mostly, I buy apps.

erzhik says:

If it's worth buying, then yes.

mjrtoo says:

Game must at least have a trial, it would have to have pretty great reviews to buy it without trying it.

INV3000 says:

I pay max 2.99 for games

rubenbest says:

I buy for support

saputraj says:

If I look at my purchases, I mostly buy games that give trials and priced at $0.99. I have no problem paying more for the games that I like. For the one which is too pricey, I normally wait until Red Stripe deals. My ideal price: $0.99 for casual games and upto $2.99 for good games. If I have to choose my favorite indie devs, it will be 10Tons. I bought their games for my Lumia & Surface RT.

ltjordan24 says:

  I use my 928 for mostly playing games and streaming music/movies. I have a few free games but I do have more paid games on my phone. I would prefer to pay for a game up-front than have annoying ads pop-up after every death or every few minutes. I'm also not really a fan of IAPs even though that's the hot thing right now. The most I would pay for a phone game is $4.99. Anything over that is just too expensive and I would much rather play a game at home on a big screen tv with a controller as opposed to being hunched over my phone.

Narr says:

I pay for games but also don't mind adverts. In app purchases are a big turn off though.

I've spent prolly 100 bucks on Xbox live ones

lancepr says:

Hill climb does it right, pay once to remove ads

murani says:

I pay and prefer to pay for my apps and games. One of the most misunderstood aspects of battery drain on mobile is apps/games pulling mobile ads to the device.

Hi iam okay to pay but its time to be some more faumous games to be free

Jestin96 says:

No
I prefer to play games with ad.
If the ads are annoying, then I'll purchase the premium version.

I'll pay for a game xbl or not. I just want a free trial.

Never actually .. I wait for the game to go free and get it XD

viteco24 says:

Yes if they are Good games,and i line that the games has a trial só i can check if its,whort my money

wpguy says:

I dont mind ads, if they are out of the way of game play. Paid games MUST include a reasonable trial, such as one full level or one complete game (board, card game type). Pay to remove ads are always welcome.

TheWinPhan says:

Without a doubt, I will pay for games! I also encourage my family and friends to do the same. I couldn't care less if it's a XBL game in all honesty. If its a well designed game, that matters more. My son who is a GAMER feels the same. Would love to see more US centric sports games make it into the store, it's one of the important game genres that needs to be addressed if the US marketshare is going to increase.

Talk4Lig says:

Only when Im sure that the game is very good and I can try it

jaimeastin says:

Trying it is very important... Believe me if it is goo, I will buy it... I don't have any trials on my phone/tablet that I have not purchased if it was worth using

Talk4Lig says:

Yeah man agree with you

I pay for XBL games, but not most apps.

jaimeastin says:

I would rather pay for a good game than play add supported games any day... This goes for a good app, especially when your data can be save/backed up to SkyDrive

Nakazul says:

Good games in reasonably prices always get my SEK.

Lanceloni says:

Anyone can add money to their (wp8) phone by adding a gift card to the Wallet app, so the "I can't pay" shouldn't be a reason.

I pay for games. Seriously, if you get hours of entertainment from the game, and it costs less than your coffee...

Not a fan of windows phone games because the platform doesn't allow me to upgrade devices and restore my apps with saved game state like I can with iOS. If progress is saved in the cloud, then I am happy to buy. Otherwise, I do my gaming on a tablet that isn't as likely to get rotated out.

I have a game of Bookworm on my my iPad that has been following me around between 4 device upgrades. Never lost the game status.

MrWhiteman says:

I would pay for a game as long as there are zero in app purchases

Shane says:

Yes of course, if the game is worthy.

Tina Sotler says:

I bought all artifex mundi games. I absolutely love them!
does anybody know any other good hidden objects games?would love to try them out

xTmX Korrupt says:

I prefer XBL games in the long run. However if the game is good, then I am willing to download and even purchase in game items if it is F2P. But it must be able to draw me in for me to do that though.

SamiSaifDine says:

I'll only pay for CANDY CRUSHH :'"'(

ReneGO0 says:

Yes but games must be very well made !

Jazmac says:

If I like it and it has ads, I pay for it. That goes for any app I plan to keep. If I can't get rid of the ad, I usually get rid of the app.

wendoman says:

I'll buy games for about 200$ and doesn't play any of them

XxarkangelxX says:

Yes if the game is worth it I'll support the developer for his hard work and buy the game.

Lenin17301 says:

I may be old-fashioned, but I always prefer a game designed without IAP's in mind, I don't mind post-release DLC, but the game must be 100% playable and finishable without IAP's, no matter the asking price for it, a example of good practices would be The World Ends With You on iOS, 20$ but worth every penny, or Plants Vz Zombies on many platforms, an example of bad practice could be The Dark Knight Rises, 7$ on WP8 and riddled with IAP's, but still I dont want to critizice Gameloft too much because at least they support WP8 a million times more than the other game devs, and next to Rudy Huyn help to make the Store less of a desert.

Dawood Ahmed says:

on lumia 1020 i pay even though its dev unlocked and i know xap deployment. on any of android or related os i never buy cuz dowloading free is easier than buying the app :D and i dont want to give my info to google.

I never get in app purchases. I delete the games like asphalt 8 after playing for sometime.

just make good games, have a demo of it and charge appropriately. If you use ads, they need to be used sparingly, and never in an annoying or intrusive way. I've only bought Portal 2D so far, though. And I hate in-app when it's to progress in the game. New chapters and such are fine.

kiddj55 says:

Anyone that only pays for XBL only games is ignorant.

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brayvefart says:

I paid for Asphalt 7 Heat but later removed it to make way for it's free awesome free successor!

Well i did pay for soul caliber , contra and he man on my galaxy note.
Also in game purchase in megapolis
I don't play on my lumia520

tositem says:

The good thing about windows phone is that we are given a trial period - either for games or apps. So, if i find the app or the game amuses me, sure I'll make a purchase.

The point is that the games that are free on other platforms should not be paid on windows phone

jwinch2 says:

I definitely will pay for good games. Far better that then the freemium games that try to sucker you in to paying to enjoy a game you thought was free.

Jack Larson1 says:

Pay, but have a free trial plz

blends says:

I always pay for games. I'm the type to stick to a game until I beat it or lose interest then go looking through the store for something cool to kill time with. On average I purchase a game once every 6-8 weeks. I clearly can't fit all of them on my main phone but that doesn't bother me. I have two phones.

MrGoodSmith says:

The thing is, ad-generated revenue from free games on the long run could exceed revenue from buying the game itself.

Ravens Rook says:

I don't mind paying for games regardless if they are xbox enabled or not. What i cannot abide by are these pay to play games. What tipped me over the edge with these was the review of the recent dungeon keeper game and what they did with their system...diabolical

ajvanbreen says:

Yes, unless there are microtransactions. I don't mind paying up front for a game, but having gameplay gated behind microtransactions means I don't want anything to do with your game.

weedog1889 says:

I only ever paid for rayman but rayman is 1 cool mofo, but i have paid for other apps that have some actual use

TheRem says:

Yes. Ads are really annoying, who clicks them anyway? If the game is good, i really buy it, so I have to TRY it first. I think apps with no trial version is a form of swindling. ;)

MrDaedra says:

Yes, but not as much as final fantasy costs. Mobile games should be about 1-2$.

Mike Mathias says:

Only for Games XBOX-LIVE Enabled!!!

broughshane says:

rather have the choice of phone and tablet as i tend to use my surface more for games, and pay for no adds.

Renaldo868 says:

No. I don't even pay for movies! I'm a Pirate

Face2000 says:

I pay for xbl games love my achievement point on the go. I rarely buy inde games because there are very few of them that have replay ability once you have beaten them in my experience.

Yes I do pay for games, if they are worth it. I have purchased a few disney games, Angry Birds Star Wars 2 and Bejeweled.

Bloobed says:

If there's a demo, and I like the app, I pay for it, otherwise I won't even try it. Ad- and especially IAP-supported games I'll pass without looking.

I don't buy non xbla games. Heck even cthulhu saves the world on Xbox wasn't immune...no achievements= not worth my time and money.

paulxxwall says:

If the game is sweet it will pay and sell it self. Always have a try option first and if its a hit most will pay ......i know I will!

reprod3 says:

Of course I pay... I've paid for atleast 15-20 apps between the Windows Phone and Windows platforms.

Only pay for XBL games, I prefer the platform integration. Part of what sets WP aside gamingwise from iPhone or Android.

Only pay for games that pay me back with gamerscore! Xbox WP games are all I buy.

darth3pio says:

I'm happy spending far beyond the usual .99c if it's a good game.

pan_ani says:

I will pay for any game or app if I like it. No whining. No complaints. I am always up for supporting the devs for WP.

tbonenga says:

XBOX LIVE ONLY!!!

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majic1 says:

Yes if the game is what I want & good enough price is right also Xbox live. I have bought quite a few games

Bob101910 says:

If it has XBL achievement I'll pay. If not, I very rarely might try the trial. Even more rare would I buy it (never happened yet). I don't mind ad supported games.

Personally, I would rather pay than be bled to death with in-app purchases (Dungeon Hunter 4, anyone?).
I'm a beginning developer and all of my stuff is free, but I have paid for multiple things.
Just don't charge a lot (Square-Enix, anyone?), and you'll be fine.
You better have online backups for that charge, though!!!

Osmosics says:

YES, I do pay for games (and other apps). Why shouldn't I?? If the app is good, and the price isn't too high. More people should pay their apps on WP to stimulate the app builders and the WP comunity! This is the only way to have a large and interetesting amount of apps.

I will only pay for XBOX LIVE enabled games. Will play other maybe, if they're free. But I stick mostly to gamerscore games.

nbolmer says:

IAPs are destroying games. I will pay a reasonable price for a good game. The game should be balanced so that players progress at a pace that doesn't feel like a grind, not a deliberately slow pace to encourage users to buy gems, crystals, or whatever bullshit abstraction.

dwarfsize says:

I will buy a game after a good trial, usually up to 2$. I cant stand in app purchases, but don't mind ads in a free game. I wont buy a game with no trial, unless I've heard/seen a lot of good things about it, either on youtube or another news site (wpcentral the best :))

edjr07 says:

I pay more for IAP than the game itself.

lpforthewin says:

I rarely pay for in game items - can't think of when i have
But if a game looks great I'll buy it (especially if I've enjoyed the trial) and if the in game purchase gets me a real bonus (like reaper) I'll buy it.
I tend to buy apps more though as i don't have much space on my 8.20

coip says:

As anyone sifting through the above comments can see, a very large number of gamers here only buy Xbox live games. I agree with them: not only will I only buy a game if it's Xbox certified, I won't even download a free game unless it's Xbox certified.

Unfortunately, getting Xbox certification on Windows Phone is not easily obtainable for indie developers. That's why we've started the #SaveXboxWP movement, one of the goals of which is to cajole Microsoft into extending the ID@Xbox program to Windows Phone development. Go here for more details: http://forums.wpcentral.com/gamers-lounge/249754-asphalt-8-not-xbox-title-lets-mobilize-reverse-trend-savexboxwp.html

Unless it's a game I've really been looking forward to (either because a friend wants to challenge me, or because it is very popular in another platform), I usually prefer not to pay. I have no problem with ads, though if it needs in-app purchases to be any good then I will most likely uninstall it.

bAN01TgAZ says:

Ive spent over £500 on apps & games, £12 on FF3 being the most ive ever spent in a single game purchase, and £30 on the official F1 timing app.

ALex Susky says:

I would pay up to 4$ for a good indie game. Free ones I tend to stay away from

Dear developers:
Make a good game, that grabs, and holds, the attention of the players for more than 10 minutes, and you'll get paying customers. It can be epic (ie: dungeon hunter), or mundane (ie: candy crush), but it has to be unique, and exciting, and have the ability to engage more than the player and the device.
Thanks for listening.

if alot of them didnt have iap's in them id buy. as for xbl releases if its something i like & is for a more reasonable price  ill buy. for those to belittle xbl support it does have its advantages if your a 360/1 owner search xbox live rewards

would be nice if they had a CH. 9 app. to bad it looks like hot apps isnt recorded anymore(due to inside xbox getting nuked)

JodyMaccz says:

I only go for the XBL games unless the game is really good like GTA: SA is or Angry Birds GO.

XSportSeeker says:

Yes, I pay for games.

Wish I had a way of seeing all of my purchases in one list... if anyone knows of a way to do it, let me hear it, thanks!
I don't like the "free 2 play"... or as Satoru Iwata said "free 2 start" model, because it's far too easy (purposely) to loose sight of how much you spend on a given game. So I simply don't pay for anything in-game.

I very rarely pay for stuff that's completely clear and one time only, like "removing ads".

So if it's a game that requires you to pay to continue playing or something like that (games that cripples the gameplay unless you pay), I simply don't play and drop the app. There's plenty more out there to replace them, and they are mostly past time.

Now, honestly, I download lots of game to test them. And I don't play that much with my WP phone, first because I hate touchscreen controls, second because I only play games on it when there's no other choice, which doesn't happen a lot for me.

But for the past end year holidays (when I travel and get away from my gaming devices) I remember paying at least for two games which I played to the end, and must account for the longest times I've spend gaming with my Lumia 1020: Puzzle Quest 2 and Nightmares from the Deep, from Artifex Mundi (thanks WPCentral for recommending those!).

Oh, I just searched my mail and found all bills. I also bought: Temple Run OZ, Heroes of Kalevala, Let's Golf 2 and tons of non gaming apps.

So I must've paid for about 10 apps and games over the course of 2 to 3 months... also worth noting that I had a problem with the store early on right after I got my phone because some brazilian banks wouldn't accept credit card purchases in it, something related to exchange rates or something.

Also: I have an iPad 2 and have always used the same system for game purchases: no in-game spending unless it's for one time only and very clear purpose. I always like to quote a game as the ideal model for free 2 play games: Beastie Bay from japanese developer Kairosoft.

It's an incredibly complex and complete game in which you can pay 2 remove ads (that are not even intrusive in the first place... it's banners that lays outside the game screen), and than way later on in the game you can pay to create some pets or monsters, but it's in no way necessary... you probably got them anyways by playing the game regularly. I paid for the ad removal because I liked the game very much and wanted to support the devs.

 

Anyways, that's my take on it. Will also be posting on the forums.

Yes! And will continue doing so to avoid ads!!

Mac Morrison says:

So it seems that for a lot of people on windows phone being an XBox live title is a major influence. 

Which basically means only supporting a handful of the BIG companies. It's close to impossible for an indie to get xbox live status, unless a big publisher picks up their titles. Even Disney isn't xbox live certified!! 

It seems to both justify xbox live (by saying its a seal of quality)

but at the same time it's effectively locking out everyone else. Google and iOS encourage you to use their

game services - play games / game centre.

Really intersting and honest responses on here and the original thread which i started.

 

Thanks all.

Mac

(you can download my 'tiny' game PENKU in the app store - its free and not xbox live enabled!!)

Sicarius123 says:

To be honest unless a game is ball breaking fantastic, I won't buy it outright to start with. On the other hand a game which is ad supported will definitely get an in game purchase to remove the ads if I find it enjoyable because ads taking up screen real estate or lengthening loading screens bothers me.

Poorly implemented micro transactions which are required to really play a game though will get me to uninstall very quickly.

rexpowercolt says:

if its worth, i buy for sure. Xbox Live or not.

Clodderes says:

I bought several games already. I don't like ads

jomarr says:

Yes I do! But only if they're good. A "try" option wouldn't hurt devs!

Aleena says:

Installed over 3 years on a Samsung Focus WP7 (since Dec 2010) and Lumia 1020 WP8 (since Oct 2013):

  •  80 XBL games
  • 195 non-XBL games
  • 456 apps

Purchases over 3 years:

  • 3 XBL games (Rise of Glory, Project Sunburst, Galactic Reign)
  • 2 non-XBL games (Shelter, The Harvest)
  • 5 apps (ProShot, OneShot, MetroTube, Amazing Weather, StockWatch)
  • 1 in-app purchase (removed ads from GeoPhoto as thanks to developer for advice)

Note that 2 of the 3 XBL games I purchased were pulled from the Marketplace which left a bad taste. I like to think that I remain open to purchasing another XBL game but, well, I have yet to do so and am more inclined to support indie game developers in the future.

Non-Nokia/Microsoft apps that I use most frequently:
Amazing Weather HD, Top Task List, WizTiles, GasBuddy, Dev Center, Battery (by Arthur Semenov), Flight Status, Flixster, Metrotube, Total Fuel, Facebook, Pikura

Games that I have play most frequently:
Wordament (by a wide margin), Shelter, Sudoku, Penguin, Alone at War, Cradle To Grave, Age of Sorcery

Games/apps that I play/use and would purchase if they weren't already free:
Chickens Can Dream (non-XBL), Fling Theory (non-XBL), Pikura, 6tag

JimmyRespawn says:

sure. for good game.

I'm ready to pay 1$ for every app to get rid of ads. 2$, max 3$ for really good apps. Unfortunately free, ad supported apps are updated more often and support is better. Almost all apps I paid got zero bugfixes.

Daniel Meek says:

I am a value gamer. I am the sort of person who picks up last year's AAA titles on a steam sale for $3-5. If it costs me more than 50 cents per hour to beat (or before I get tired of) a game then it was not worth it to me.
As far as XBL is concerned I would rather have it than not, but most of the non-microsoft games on my phone are not XBL. What really hooks me into a game are good stories with well thought out game mechanics. Flappy bird, endless runners, etc. need not apply.

The issue however is that if I am at work then I would be fired if I was playing games, and when I am at home I have a nice big game rig to play on, so while I have played my fair share of doom and destiny, and FF, and MS's games like majong and solitare, it is mostly a pick-up and put-down kind of thing during those moments that the kiddos are entertained but I still need to keep an eye on them.

Also there is the battery drain cost. I need my phone to be on so that people can get ahold of my in an emergency. My phone will last 2 days easy listening to podcasts and normal voice/text use... and yet 20 minutes of majong will bring the phone to it's knees as it tries to melt itself. That cost is simply way too high. Plus there is the issue of touch screen controlls. First of all they suck, but beyond that it causes my hands to cover the screen, which often proves problematic. I know that there are finally some controllers available, but I am not about to drop $50+ on a crappy bluetooth controller... I mean, my MS branded Xbox controller for my PC only cost $30, and it is way nicer!

Until there is a nice way to play games without destroying the battery and covering half the screen with my grubby fingers then I think I will continue to spend the bulk of my money on a better suited platform for gaming. But if someone makes a fun game that I can easily start and stop at will, then I am more than willing to throw a little money at it. Something like FTL, or a lego game would have me instantly sold.

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