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Get GDR3 today: Microsoft announces Windows Phone Preview for Developers

Starting later today, anyone can update their phone to Windows Phone 8 Update 3, as Microsoft announces new Preview Program

This morning, in addition to announcing Windows Phone 8 GDR3 (or just 'Update 3' as it is now being called), Microsoft has finally detailed their enthusiast update program so that owners of Windows Phone 8 devices can get the latest version of the OS without having to wait for OEMs or carriers. While technically designated for “developers”, anyone with a Windows Phone 8 device and a few minutes of their time can participate.

The program, detailed on the Windows Phone Developer Blog, will allow those who meet Microsoft’s loose standards to update to GDR3 starting later today. You read that right. The point of the program is to allow developers to try out their apps and optimize their code before the new OS goes live to millions of Windows Phone users, in addition to giving feedback to Microsoft.

Unofficially, it is meant to allow anyone to update their phones over-the-air to the latest version of Windows Phone 8, without carrier interference. 

Later today, current registered developers can head the Windows Phone Preview for Developers page (developer.windowsphone.com) to get more information on how to enroll. Uses who accept the terms and conditions can then begin to receive the update through the Windows Phone Store—a method that is very similar to how Windows 8.1’s preview was given to the public earlier this summer. Users will install the new Windows Phone Preview for Developers app, which will allow them to manage the OS updates right from the phone.

Anyone can participate

Although the program is designated for “developers” in reality, any current Windows Phone user, including the "enthusiast” crowd, can participate. That’s because in addition to registered developers (who’ve paid the previous $99 registration fee, or the more current $19 offer), anyone who is also signed up for the free Windows Phone App Studio program (apps.windowsstore.com) can also participate.

While the $19 registered developer program allows you to unlock up to three devices, the free App Studio program allows you to unlock just one. So if you only have one Windows Phone, then you can participate in the Windows Phone 8 GDR3 update preview like anyone else.

If that sounds like the “enthusiast update program” that Microsoft talked about in June 2012, you would be correct.

Any catches?

There are only a few caveats users face by participating

  • This only includes the OS update, not device specific firmware i.e. this is not Nokia's 'Bittersweet shimmer'; users should remain with their current firmware and will not lose it
  • You can only move forward, there is no “going back” to earlier releases
  • You need at least OS version 8.0.10322.71 to participate
  • You will continue to receive the official update (and firmware) when they become publicly available, so there is no missing out of features, nor will you ever be behind
  • This will void your device warranty

It’s important to note that there are no new API changes for GDR3, so developers won’t have too much work to get their apps ready for the new OS. Things like optimizing for 1080P displays is really the only big changes for developers.

We’ll of course cover this program as it goes live later today.

All in all though, Microsoft has seemingly delivered on their promise of a method for enthusiasts to never miss an OS update.

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Ya but where the hell is my GDR4 update AT&T??

Jnbs says:

Fail!! There is no GDR4.. Next is WP 8.1

pookiewood says:

He was kidding people. -_-

Jnbs says:

I know what he does lol.. But this time he FAILED.. He had to say WP 8.1

Aaron M says:

That was probably part of his joke though.

Pookie wins the internet for today! Yes, it was just a joke. :)

rodneyej says:

Wow.. These guys are amazing...

DalekSnare says:

It's not their fault, AT&T blocked the joke so they didn't get it when everyone else did.

rodneyej says:

More ATT bashing... Lol❕ Will ya'll quit.. They deserve credit for carrying the 920, 925, 1020, and the 1520.. Who has that lineup❔ Who❔

I politely and respectfully reply to RodneyDJ with "Yo momma got dat."

Now with the Developers preview, AT&T's blocking of my bad jokes can now be bypassed! Now how do I get WPcentral from deleting half of my comments.......

RyoTGZ says:

Wow! Just wow! Color me surprised. I thought they abandoned this idea shortly after it was announced.

user4545 says:

Breaking device warranty is not so awesome and I really don't understand why Microsoft has made it like this.

StevieBallz says:

Warranty is provided by the manufacturer. By installing Microsoft's update you install software that the manufacturer has not signed off on so they obviously won't service those devices. With WP7.5 Microsoft promised to take care of those devices until they were back on the official version track.
Lets wait and see how this will work out when the terms and conditions go live later today.

mactirerua says:

If an iPhone user jailbreaks their phone or an Android user flashes a new ROM they void their warranty. To me, this is no different - you are modifying the phone with an experimental version of the OS and the risk you take should not be on the OEM

user4545 says:

It's obviously extremely different from jailbreaks or Android ROMs. This is the official update to the OS directly from Microsoft, the only difference is that it is just for the OS, upgraded firmware and device drivers from the OEM are not included. Should be absolutely no need to void your warranty by updating your OS. It's basically like saying you would void the warranty on your Windows PC by running windows update..

OMG55 says:

Its all on the carrier, they are choosing not to early adopters who don't wait for them to release the update which they've received long before developers getting it. They just want to make money.and this is another method of getting it.

user4545 says:

Sure but in Europe a lot of people buy unsubsidized unlocked phones and Microsoft should just treat these as they do with PCs and release the updates OTA w/o OEM firmware or drivers as they've now proven they can and not having any OEM warranty voided.

dcutting says:

I've been saying this for a long time and I'm in the US.  The idea that a carrier can block OS updates is obsurd.  It's akiin to Time Warner Cable blocking me from updating my PC to Windows 8.1 because they are my ISP and they need to test it on their network first.  There is no reason Apple can do this and Microsoft can't.

OMG55 says:

I uhderstand what you saying, but there's a million users that are going to want the OEM firmware update as well as Microsoft's OS update. There's a delima, do we, release the OS update less OEM firmware add-ons or not. I simply want the OS update personally, but how many other would be crying wolf because they don't get OEM firmware updates?

user4545 says:

90% of people don't care about updates at all or don't understand that they could get new features etc from an update and most people are afraid of updates and thinks SMS, apps etc will disappear after applying an update. Now for the rest that do care, and the percentage is probably a bit higher in the WP-space because it's not a mainstream OS yet, I think the separation of OS update and firmware/driver/software update is great and the way Microsoft should proceed with. This is an advantage Microsoft has with its controlled OS compared to Android where this isn't possible because the OEMs add and change stuff directly in the code.

he_shark says:

Some people are never satisfied. We get the option of early access and still you complain. This is a developer preview, not officially sanctioned for daily use. Chances are minute it will cause problems, but it is pretty standard if you are going to install developer editions (be it Windows 8 beta, iOS betas, whatever) that you cannot expect a retail warranty anymore.

Andre Blonde says:

Another question is if i do it now and update later with official bittersweet shimmer will it get me my warranty back?

kurotsuki says:

Hmm... I want to know this as well. So ... Will my warranty back once I update it to bittersweet shimmer later on? Because logically, they can't really know whether I previously update the device to beta OS since the firmware will override the beta update itself, right?
Can someone clarify this?

fwaits says:

Except this is not released code, it's beta code.

it is different with jailbreak. but probably the same as google releasing newest version of android (jelly bean, kitkat or whatsoever) but user must wait for manufaturer to update it to their own device and adopt it to touchwiz or sense or any kind of version they are using.
user can't update directly from google.

RyanR47 says:

Updating to beta software in iPhone doesn't void warranty and its not the same as jailbreak. You can also downgrade to earlier version very easily. Microsoft implementation is way superior than android but nowhere near as flexible as apple. Please try to provide unbiased and accurate comparison information.

L925 user :)

houkoholic says:

Actually it's the best system they can put in without pissing off all parties involved.  On one hand they can't force the OEM and carriers to support untested firmware else they would push back hard, and on the other the geeks are very vocal about not getting updates, so now they make it look like it is "developers only" (but with a VERY easy work around which is free) so they can just throw their hands up to the carriers and OEM and say this isn't really affecting their business as it is targetting only a small portion of hardcore users while the geeks whom are perfectly happy to risk losing their warranties (look at Android ROM flashers) to have their method of getting updates.  Win win.

stephen_az says:

There is nothing at all win-win about this, unless you mean Microsoft and the carriers both win at the expense of the users,  Apple's beta program does not void warranties and Android phones can always be flashed back to the stock ROM.  This is a one way street that obliges you to pay through the nose if something goes wrong.  As such, this is in no way fullfilling old promises about bypassing carriers.  It is a use at your own risk scenario that is completely inconsistent with Microsoft and OEM policies for their other OSs....

dcutting says:

The difference with Apple is that they own the hardware and the OS. Currently MS doesn't own the hardware so they can't dictate whether the OEM should void the warranty or not.  Hopefully this will change to some extent when MS officially absorbs Nokia, at least for the Nokia devices.

user4545 says:

No this has nothing to do with owning the hardware, you don't break the warranty on your Samsung PC or tablet when running windows update right?
 
It's great that Microsoft has finally proven that the "Apple way of updates" is possible, iow bypassing carriers and OEMs (something Google still can't do). But doing this by voiding warranty in the process is a really bad and unnecessary way since this is not at all how it's done on other Windows devices.

Philip Weber says:

Because most phones are under a subsidy the situations aren't the same. Just about every software vendor provided beta software in an "as is" condition. Unlike a pc you can't grab the WinPhone OS to roll back a screw up either.  You know there's a distinct difference,  no need to act obtuse about it.  If you don't want to potentially brick your phone don't download beta software.  I'm confused on how this is such a contentious issue with you.

user4545 says:

Most phones are subsidized in US yes, in Europe no. You can't put in a Windows 8 installation DVD on your Asus Vivotab either but you still don't break your warranty by using Windows update to get Windows 8.1. No this is not beta software, it's the official GDR3. 

dcutting says:

No, actually it's not official GDR3, it is RTM which means Release to Manufacturing which means it's the version released to the OEMs.  There is still a phase of Dev/Test that occurs after RTM to address issues found by OEMs.  It is not official until MS says it is available and rolling out to end users.  Until then, this is a pre-release version of the OS and in that case, the OEM has every right to void the warranty if they so choose.  I'm hoping that at least Nokia still honors it but they technically don't have to.  I've have read of cases where an OEM did not honor a warranty on a PC because the OS that the user installed was not supported by them.

Philip Weber says:

No this is not beta software, it's the official GDR3. 

 
Yes, you are correct, it's not beta.  Still the same rules can apply.  Until the device manufacturer and carrier gives the ok it needs to treated as "as is".  It'd be nice though for MS to provide a roll back method since they're providing an easy way for end users to download it.

dcutting says:

While I agree the term "beta" doesn't necessarily apply, it also is not the official publicly available version.  From the source blog article (emphasis added):
"Windows Phone Preview for Developers gives you, our developer community, access to prerelease builds of Windows Phone updates on your dev phone before operating system updates generally are available to consumers"
"Points of note about the preview
...
-When you opt in and apply a prerelease update, you can only move forward with updates. When the update is publicly released for your device, you will once again be in a ‘released state.’
-After you install a preview update, you may void any warranty from your MO and OEM. In the unlikely event you run into an issue after you apply the prerelease update, you can visit the preview program’s support forum."
 
 
Until MS announces the official release there are still bugs being worked out with OEMs and partner devs.

 

joeonsunset says:

Right and by the way. If you are warranty-ing your phone out with your carrier, I'll eat my friggin' shoe if they dishonor based on this. In my experience, the carrier checks for water damage or a cracked screen, and then moves on.
Sure, Nokia itself is a litle pickier. (I had a warranty phone returned to me instead of being swapped out because they couldn't find the issue I was complaining about. And it took weeks.) But in that case, just use the new Nokia retail tool to reflash the phone to GDR2, no?
I admit some people have an HTC or Samsung Windows Phone, but, I mean.... uh, err... :-p 

MadSci2 says:

Given that the Official GDR2/Amber Update did brick my Lumia, I'd say this is not a good gamble. If it came with a roll back tool, or say a $20 fee to service your phone to roll it back it might be ok. I know MS is trying to help us but voiding a warrantee is not so good.

louisoneal says:

Wow, people are really passionate about this aren't they :-)

dcutting says:

Yes they are and the funny thing is that MS has stated that it "may" void it not that it "will."  It's still up to the OEM.  Of course I hope they don't but MS can't really dictate to the OEM how they treat their warranties.  I for one am extremely happy that MS has introduced this program and look forward to participating.  I'm sure, over time, all of the kinks will get worked out and once MS owns the Nokia hardware I expect it to get even better for those who purchase Nokia devices.

dcutting says:

That's not completely accurate.  Some PC manufactures will void a warranty if the original OS is not installed when you return it.  This is especially true of beta/preview OS.  Of course, if you restore the OS back to the original before returning for warranty then you would be ok.  The same is true here. If you flash back to the original OS version, I would assume that your warranty would still be intact.

skshandilya says:

"If you flash back to the original OS version, I would assume that your warranty would still be intact."
How? No Navifirm now and NSU will not go back to an older release. if we somehow hack NSU, it would work, could be doable?

dcutting says:

Well, the assumption is that since NSU is for retail employees that it would flash the phone back to the latest official retail version for that device.  Since this is a pre-release of GDR3 I would assume NSU would have no knowledge of it and therefore would be able to flash back to the "older" version which in this case would be GDR2/Amber.  Of course, this would only work for Nokia devices but since I belive they accoutn for 90% of the WP market, that's most of us.

ca2l3vin says:

People need to calm down.....for starters this is WAY BETTER THAN NOTHING which is what we had before. Second there is no comparison with the PC market as that market is FAR less controlled by OEM's and (virtually non-existant) carriers. The mobile industry is vastly different and this will continue to reflect that as carrier and OEM's have much more power and control in this realm. Third is that ITS THE SAME AS ANDROID!!!!!! I gaurentee if you FLASH A ROM on a phone (which you had to likely UNLOCK the bootloader for VOIDING YOUR WARRANTY ANYWAYS) and you send that phone into them DIRECTLY through warranty they would say its out of warranty and that you would have to pay. HTC, Samsung, LG, Asus, and others all follow this trend. Infact if you go to HTC's website to unlock your bootloader which you need to do to load a ROM then they say ON THE WEBSITE AND ON THE UNLOCK SCREEN of the phone that your warranty will be voided.
 
We luckely have very smart hackers/developers at XDA and other locations that can make it LOOK like you can flash backwards. Thats not provided through the OEM and if they OEM KNEW you had previously unlocked your phone you warranty would still be voided. Infact on HTC devices if you unlock your bootloader (even if you flash a stock ROM back) your phone will indicate  **TAMPERED** at the top of the recovery page. It has a yellow Triangle for Samsung devices. THEY ALREADY KNOW YOU VOIDED YOUR WARRANTY.
 
IF you wandering why you havent been charged for this...most OEM's just dont care. For us in the USA our carriers already bought replacement phones from the OEM's and replacing it through the carriers has a very minimal impact on thier bottome line. For every 1 Million devices sold they have to have at least that many replacements at the ready. Out of all those replacements possibly what....50 people are a result of voided warranty through actual flashing of ROM's. When your shipping 10 million units and already sold a bunch a replacement stock to a USA carrier then its just not worth the hassel of having to charge the carrier for the replacement and then having the carrier charge the user for the replacement. Now if your in a region thats not in the business of the carrier replacing your phone and you send it directly to them thats a different story. They then just try to find anything wrong with the phone that wasnt caused by you to they have an excuse to replace you with a refurb or just fix the problem and send it back to you. Its not worth the time unless they device was actually destroyed making it un-refurbishable. That is when they may charge you for being out of warranty.
 
Fourth worst case scenario you can just wait for the public update to come out. unless you just **** up your phone so bad that it cant even be updated, the official update will override w/e happens with this update and unless OEM's have in place a way to see if you tampered with your device like on Android then they wouldnt even know. even if your phone is not working and its not updatable then it means its likely bricked to where the screen doesnt turn on...then the OEM uses special tools to flash firmware and its back to normal. Lastly thier are stock ROM's out there for Nokia phones so if you search enough you can just flash one of those back (there is no "official" way to go back but since firmware is not affected flashing backwards IS possible just unofficial)
 
TL;DR Calm down and look at android

 

tennockey says:

The Apple "Beta Program" is meant ONLY for developers, so you can't even compare the two really. 

kwajr says:

you can always revert back using nokia care suite that wp central discussed this weekend..they say that warrenty is void but from years of flashing i can tell you i have never had an issue exchanging phone i bricked

DaveGx says:

Too bad they didn't do this for GDR 2. Maybe then us ATT shmucks could've gotten Data Sense

dcutting says:

I'm curioius if this will somehow put Data Sense back in for us ATT schmucks.

GregAllen says:

-Its crazy that you can jailbreak an Iphone, restore it, and then send it back to Apple and they fix it because they can't tell its been jailbroke. I've done it multiple times

DalekSnare says:

Was Data Sense an MS or Nokia feature? This wouldn't give us any new Nokia features.

dcutting says:

I'm pretty sure it was MS because I recall HTC users talking about having it

Jabid21 says:

LOL, at&t just wants us to pay for overages, that's all.

pierrerv says:

Did he really meant to say"this will void your device warranty" ?

mister2d says:

Thanks for that link. The article's link to developer.windowsphone.com is utterly useless. No announcements at all on that front page.

SocalTouch says:

WOW, In one stroke, Microsoft made every Windows Phone the equivalent of Google Nexus line in terms of OS updates! Genius!

rubenbest says:

Omg sign me up!

backlashsid says:

Sign up urself...lazy potato

rubenbest says:

This really made me laugh

kurotsuki says:

Hahaha. Literally, he is right. You should sign up yourself. But on the humor side, this is hilarious :D

People who explain jokes ruin them

Darren Walsh says:

Gimmie gimmie gimmie lol

Jrow1296 says:

Only if you say please.

jrnag24 says:

does anyone know if GDR3 fixes Xbox Video?

Gatlyn says:

Was really hoping, but I haven't seen anything mentioned.

jrnag24 says:

Well I guess the only way to find out is to install GDR3 

rightisray says:

All signs/rumors point to that being in 8.1.

eddieDOTexe says:

I thought GDR3 was 8.1...

Ultimateone says:

Completely different

chunky2055 says:

wow... now this is what i wanted. more then ready for it. plz get us first impression of the update.

Darren Walsh says:

Wpc will need to employ a plumber for all the leaks that are about to be sprung lol

Jnbs says:

I don't think so.. They will have it as well so they will report it as soon as they see it on their phones.. A lot of tips on the other hand seems viable..

txDrum says:

They aren't really leaks if its a public ally available preview :P plus, we already know what's in GDR3.

BUT I liked the pun :D

WP8Expert says:

Hey Daniel! Be sure to do a review of GDR3 when you get it on your devices!

rubenbest says:

No keep it a surprise lol

I am all over this!!!

jkercado says:

As a developer, this makes me happy. :)

k00ksta says:

I so completely agree .. This has been needed since day 1.

sip1995 says:

i'm already at windows phone app studio program.....yeah

drg says:

Awesome!!!!!!!

Sarang68 says:

Tempting. Although not a developer i am a huge enthusiast for Windows phone.

OMG Close apps by tapping on the X on top right in multitasking view... Why no swipe UP/ Down ??? WP8 is much stable OS than any other and it should be made a SWIPE based OS...

Swipe based systems have discoverability problems. The 'X' method also matches the current Tab management system for IE. That means UI consistency.

gerzhwin says:

Never saw it this way. Coming from webOS, I don't think gesture (swipe) discoverability is a problem ... at least for me, but as WP (and other Windows OSes) is made for the masses, I get the point.

daenney says:

Well, webOS was one big swipe everywhere. Everything was swipeable, up down, left right, diagonally and even in parallel universes. Stuff would bounce and make elastic snapping noises, weeeeeeeh sounds and the works. You just knew that you could swipe and have something happen.
Windows Phone doesn't do much in the form of swipy swipe and I like Daniel's UI consistency argument.

ThePKReddy says:

Don't complain before you use it.

DecadeMoon says:

I know, I was disappointed too when I found out it wasn't a swipe-based gesture. (An then Apple jumped on the bandwagon and did just this for iOS 7... Apple makes me angry sometimes lol)

sholokov says:

It is much easier to keep your finger/thumb at one location at keep on tapping on the Xs as the windows slide towards the front one by one.

he_shark says:

Just should have had both.

OMG55 says:

wouldn't you have to swipe each individual open app? So swiping down is like a "long press" which takes more to the single tapping. You know WP's motto, "get in & out, and back to the things that are important to you".

joeymk says:

Ok my lumia 920 is ready. Hold my beer 

Mayur says:

Done, now take your empty glass back...!!!

Darren Walsh says:

Hopefully the new rom is up on navifirm

ROMs (which include the OS and firmware) only appear on Navifirm just before public release. It also requires you to flash your phone (wipe data). So no, I would not expect that any time soon.

Darren Walsh says:

Ah yeah I always flash my 920, was hoping I'd see it on navifirm though!!

getalex says:

There's no mention of having to reset your phone.. would this is be an early access to the final GDR3 release? I figure you guys would cover this - but I'm wondering if early adopters will need to flash their phones again to get final bits or the bittersweet functionality etc.. I'm thinking of this analogous to Win 8.1 preview where there was no upgrade path to 8.1 RTM for example.

By the sound of it, no. You will just get the regular OTA update. Everything is OTA, no flashing.

QuiqueTaino says:

please, i just need  clarification: This WILL void my warranty, but only until the official OTA upgrade comes out... is this correct?

psiu_glen says:

Crap, been wondering that. Bought a laptop a couple months ago and put the preview on it (through the app store). It's going to require a full reinstallation?

Unfortunately yes

Scorypto says:

A question though that  if Joining the New Developer Preview Program voids my warranty from Nokia??

Sarang68 says:

Due credit to Paul Thurott. Go directly below the pic in (You can get the update this week) You will see a warning from him that this may invaidate the guarantee. I have no idea myself. I am quoting from his blog. Here it is.
http://m.winsupersite.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-8-update-3-preview

redeyss says:

Yeah, warranty is a must have for Nokia devices. Used mine thru at&t many times.

StevieBallz says:

Warranty is provided by the manufacturer. By installing Microsoft's update you install software that the manufacturer has not signed off on so they obviously won't service those devices. With WP7.5 Microsoft promised to take care of those devices until they were back on the official version track.
Lets wait and see how this will work out when the terms and conditions go live later today.

x I'm tc says:

Major issue I now have is max volume of 13 in Kid's Corner, making the /only/ feature unique to WP nearly worthless. Does anyone have a 920 and GDR3? Does it fix this?

aerosmillie says:

Don't want to hurt their little ears so we

jcutting says:

This is an Amber (firmware) thing. Let's hope it gets fixed in Bittersweet Shimmer...

x I'm tc says:

That's what I was afraid of.

Pushynachan says:

When will the update be OTA ??

pankaj981 says:

Couple of weeks/months

Pushynachan says:

Totally agree @decademoon

Blocks9 says:

So if you sign up for the free app studio builder... You can install this new update? Meaning, you don't have to pay the $19?

DrewT3 says:

Anyone know why AppStudio wants to read my address book when I sign up? I don't want a LinkedIn-style spam blast to my contacts or some other nonsense.

AppStudio needs your permission to:

Access your email addresses

AppStudio will be able to see the email addresses in your profile.

 

dznk says:

I don't know why it does, but I signed up to App Studio when it first got released months ago (hardly used it though), but have had no spam issues at all, must have had only 1 or 2 email regarding App Studio since signing up, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

philharmonik says:

Yeah buddy!! I know what I'm doing today!

sholokov says:

You sound like Phineas and Ferb.

AskaLangly says:

This will void your warranty, huh?
I have a prototype Lumia 822, it's ALREADY void. xD

Rolandh says:

If I sign up for the Preview will I also get Nokia's Bittersweet Shimmer along with GDR3 when it's officially launched or will I only get vanilla GDR3 when it's released. I'd gladly sacrifice Bittersweet Shimmer for the GDR 3 Preview, but would miss the Nokia stuff in the longtearm.
If there is no found back once you join the GDR3 Preview does that mean I won't be able to use Nokia Update to get GDR2 & Amber back?

pankaj981 says:

You'll get the official OTA when it releases

avigyan says:

Very valid question. Someone please clarify it! Is there no way to trace back to gdr2 in case of some trouble with this preview?

Where is the update i can' wait! I love this company(origin said bu Balmer...)

crise says:

Is Amber included in this GDR3? If you update to this, will you lose ALL Nokia specific things from GDR2? 

DecadeMoon says:

I think you will lose amber.

WP8Expert says:

No you won't. Amber is firmware while GDR3 is software. Whatever stuff like Glance and stuff, you will retain that.

DecadeMoon says:

Yeah you're right, my bad.

CRDeveloper says:

I jumped out of bed!!!

cannon#WP says:

With my MSDN account, I'm in

John20212 says:

The Microspft blog states: "you may void any warranty from your MO and OEM" not "will void your device warranty" there is a huge difference, so you should not mislead people by changing the wording.
 
 

rikycaldeira says:

Hm, will amber still be installed after this or will it reset to stock GDR3?

pankaj981 says:

Its a cumulative update hence all previos updates including amber will stay

sueha says:

The wp dev app says I dont have an active wp dev account. I created an app studio account. Doesnt that count??

sasukeluffy says:

Damn, if I just had GDR2...

sholokov says:

Where are you located?

sasukeluffy says:

Finland, Samsung Ativ S..

el-ojo says:

You're not alone. I have an Ativ S. No GDR2 either. Just checked and Nada. I'm in the US.

MikadoWu says:

My Best Friend Still does not have GDR2 either.  All 5 of my phones got it last week, as did her Husband.  She is still waiting. 
I been posting in the forums to find a way to help her.
ATT, Florida.

mr toes says:

I still don't have it on my 920 in Ireland :'(

sardelich says:

but...I just registered for dev account and when downloading sdk i get this error:
Unable to locate package source. When I choose to download from internet and retry, same error over and over.Running windows 8. Maybe server overload?

illidanx says:

i know this error because I just reinstall sdk yesterday. I changed my system date to sep 13 and hit retry. It worked.

sinime says:

Holy crap, and I just got GDR2 last week

NinjaGrinch says:

So.. will this void my warranty indefinately for my Lumia 925, or just while I'm on the preview OS? Is it limited to voiding my manufacturer's warranty or does this include T-Mobile's JUMP program?

myrandex says:

I don't think they would know once GDR3 is officially released

icstars989 says:

For the time being it will void your warranty, but when your carrier releases GDR3 officially I don't think they'd be able to tell anymore that you participated in this.

Read the MS blog entry.  They do not say it WILL void it, they say it MAY void the warranty.  Big difference there.

You would have to contact your MO or Nokia to find that out.  Microsoft says it "may" void your warranty, so it's up to the warranty provider to decide if they are going to void it or not.  In other words, Microsoft is just covering their butt in case a particular company decides to void warranties of updated devices.

avigyan says:

Will all the current apps work with this update? And will it be equivalent to flashing the device?

sholokov says:

Apps will work and this is not flashing. Just an update.

Flagz says:

if this voids warranty, do you know if it voids carrier warranty or tmobiles JUMP?

BCH says:

Worth it just to be able to attach pdf's to email. Business users need this badly. SkyDrive solutions, while nice for many, don't work for corporate users who are prevented by IT policy from downloading SkyDrive attachments. Most of my clients are unable to do so.

icstars989 says:

Agreed! I'm tired of carrying around 2 phones. This will be a huge plus toward making my 928 my work phone.

rdubmu says:

At&t: always one update behind

WillBrown says:

Yes! I'm looking forward to doing this today.

S**t just got real. Folks Microsoft is not playing anymore. Welcome to the brave New World and I love It, I mean I freaking love it.

adrian1338 says:

Does it somehow interfere with carrierspecific stuff like settings or Data sense? Just interesting because I am using EE in UK and don't want to loose that stuff :)
And over the air means no flashing - doesn't it. So everything will be like the normal OTA updates

I just ponied up the $19 for my annual subscription. It's about freaking time they launch this offer, and FWIW, I think this is a smart way of handling this. By enforcing it as a paid developer option, it helps ensure that not just any yahoo is out there installing updates they ought not be messing with. Those willing to accept some risk can get their update on AND have access to develop our own apps. It seems like a solid win for the growth of the platform.

jgbstetson says:

Any yahoo can sign up for App Studio. I am one of these yahoos.

Jf.Vigor says:

I am also one of those yahoos

Rem97 says:

+1 Another yahoo over here

tk-093 says:

You didn't need to spend the $19.   You can go the free developer route too.

BK-one says:

I just became a "developer" 2 mins ago. Thanks for the tip Daniel.

dznk says:

I think there will be a large increase in 'developers' in the next few days... including me

Rolandh says:

Signed up 2 App Studio now do I go for it or wait for Official with Bittersweet Shimmer.
@rikycaldeira this point makes me think it'll be GDR3 with Amber but could be wrong

  • This only includes the OS update, not device specific firmware i.e. this is not Nokia's 'Bittersweet shimmer'; users should remain with their current firmware and will not lose it

mjrtoo says:

GDR3 is not firmware like Amber was. You would keep Amber updates is what that sentence says. But, we'll see when its released.

BK-one says:

I think it does. I just created one just to give it a shot. We shall find out what happens later today I guess. Fingers and toes crossed.

raul_junior says:

Microsoft finnaly doing an amazing job

Did anyone find the "Windows Phone Preview for Developers app" ??
I have the developer account but couldn't find the preview app ! 

pankaj981 says:

I believe its not live yet

ssarma says:

Void the device warranty?? Why? Its an update coming from Microsoft.. so what if its a beta update?

pankaj981 says:

Its RTM already

ssarma says:

If that's the case, its even worse... What does that say about the device warranty?
No reason to void it!

kurotsuki says:

Ask to your OEM for that question. Microsoft said MAY, not WILL. So it's up to each OEM to void it or not.

DecadeMoon says:

I love unexpected WP news. Keep it coming Microsoft!

avigyan says:

If someone gets this preview please post here. Tell us what it is like. No glitch I hope or that would be a very bad first impression. :)

Is this still beta or the final thing ?

WP8Expert says:

Both. Its a beta of the final software. If there are still any bugs to be squashed, they will be notified and fix it. Once MS feels good about it, they'll release it.

I bet it's the final bits but they have to call it beta since they're releasing the official one through the carriers.  They don't want to confuse people by calling this the final version. 

kurotsuki says:

It's not a beta, but not final either. It's a preview. Microsoft use this term for evaluation purpose. So anyone who use it should be on their own merit.

muhdalam says:

Will Glance, etc remain on my phone? Will Amber remain on my phone? I sound dramatic.-_-

Ouzzi says:

Erm, may anyone point out how to get this the "free" way. I can't seem to figure it out so far xD
Thanks in advance.

clappenings says:

+920. I'm assuming it's not live yet

Ouzzi says:

I registered, got an email that asks me to add some certificate, when I click on add, it gives me a messages asking me to add a company account for MS Corpration, I tap add and that's all. 
Going to try again tomorrow, maybe it'll be available on this website tomorrow.

Sheraz Ahmad says:

Would the warranty be permanently void? Or just for the duration that I have the preview installed?

Will this beta update effect anything carrier related or radios

Or is this update for all windows phone 8 devices because I have a Lumia 520

All your data will be carried to preview version?

DJCBS says:

Wait. This isn't available yet ;)

invictus_7 says:

Yeah! I just read the windows blog!
it says that we need to visit the Windows Phone Preview for Developers page (which will be live later today), accept the terms of use and then download it ;)

I expect big things to come from upstart "Merritt Ideas" NASDAQ here I come! To think I only just received GDR2 last week!

Nejcooo says:

waiting and hope that my 512MB device will work.

how1ard says:

Will I be voiding the warranty on my three week old Lumia 1020? No. 

DJCBS says:

I was excited for this until I saw the warranty part.
I hope Nokia clarifies their position regarding this. If they say the warranty won't void, I'm in!
Otherwise I'll wait. We have 2 years of legal warranty in Europe and I'll not throw that away to get half the update 2 months earlier.

kurotsuki says:

Same here. In Indonesia, the warranty only have 1 year length though. But I just own this for around 4.5 month. Still a long way to go until my warranty expired. I guess I have to wait until that warranty part get cleared, at least by Nokia Indonesia.

brmbjn says:

Why i always fail to join develop ?? Fail at process credit card ?? Please any solution

brmbjn says:

Plz download link for gdr 3

JimmyRespawn says:

Finally ms speed up.

txDrum says:

Definitely considering this. That last bullet point does in fact mean that with preview GDR3, we will get shimmer + public as soon as our carriers release it yes?

bruce1099 says:

Just tried to get it.  I have full developer account.  And have the developer app on my 925.  No update yet when I tried.

Kristijan87 says:

Boy, they surely took their time with this preview programme. :) But I'm glad it's finally here! :)

AlexanderJJJ says:

So do you lose Nokia Amber if you have a Nokia device?

Sobr0801 says:

That's what I see.

taymur says:

It don't think this was mentioned, I think its two levels of software's, and the Nokia side won't be touched. That's what I understood, don't know if right or wrong.

aafa says:

Yes! AUTO ROTATION LOCK!

2010 couldn't come any sooner!

I hope they also add support for devices with qHD resolution as well, for good mid range devices, because the 480x800 gets way to thin beyond 4 inches

Jazmac says:

Just joined for 19 bucks to get updates from MS.

Same here.  Anyone know when it'll go live?  Or did anyone get it yet?

Jf.Vigor says:

I mean, you could have done this for free. But that's cool too :)

twelvetudors says:

This is great, but I'm kind of worried about voiding ny warranty. I just upgraded to this 1020, I'm kinda worried.

freshfelicio says:

Will I still keep Glance etc.?
But I want install it anyway, I got my phone last month and I'm very happy that I live in the EU and have 2 years warranty. Dont want to throw that away for a few weeks early access to multitasking app closing.

tempting ... but I prefer to wait u.u I feel this like a beta thing and if the OS come with some serious problem I cant go back xD I hope its all right and those who upgrade today get the best of it :3 but I'll wait till the oficial launch :D

OMG55 says:

Can you still sign up as a developer for $9 or $99 as I am really considering it to get my updates faster than att release to their customers. I also have a back ground in computer science anyway.

ssapre says:

you can sign up for $19 as far as I know.

Sobr0801 says:

So I will lose glance?

jonavan w says:

i don't get it ,you need to pay or is free

Bob101910 says:

Check the article. It not only says whether this is free or not, but also explains in detail how to get it for free

SamiSaifDine says:

No new API ????!! Whyyyy

FearL0rd says:

Maybe all other Nokia apps will stop work...

sejgiul says:

To me, it seems this is a test run for bypassing carriers in the future. Developers are simply being used as guinnea pigs for the OTA updates being pushed straight to devices. In addition to this, you obviously get some fancy new features, which is never a bad thing.
I'd go as far to say it would be safe to update without any issues. Reading the blog post properly (Microsoft's blog post that is), everything should be preserved. So no need to worry about your Amber update being removed.
I, for one will be updating my Lumia 620 later on.

jayruguitar says:

Guys, you just need to sign up for App Studio, which is free!  http://apps.windowsstore.com/

gamepop says:

Best Monday news ever

Srvgodara says:

If i update my phone to gdr3, what happens when the bittersweet comes from nokia, will i get the update notification?
 

MrWhiteman says:

You its unlikely you'll get any further updates

pmich says:

honestly...i just don't love the experience without a touch device.  i like the ability to do work in "desktop mode" and consume information in "metro"   That's how i view the two sides of the OS.   it's not bad when i want to sit back and be inadated with info in the metro screens..  but to nativagate i just don't like it.  I hate having to point to the the 4 corners.  Guess i gotta get more used to it

clappenings says:

Can somebody please give numbnuts (such as myself) a walk through on how to download the preview to my phone. I signed up for the free App studio thing. I got an email asking me to click to install a certificate, which it doesn't want to do.....HELP!

Po_MD says:

Hello, numbnuts.
To download, you must pay a visit to developer.windowsphone.com to enroll in Microsoft's new program that essentially allows users like us(developers) to bypass carrier interference.
For more info, head over to the aforementioned website periodically today to see if they've updated it with the new program.

So will 720p devices such as the Lumia 920 have access to the additional column?

clappenings says:

I believe so yes! 

That's awesome! Was about to skip it for now, knowing that it'll break your warranty, but now I just can't

fishyuk says:

This is nice, will try on my 520 but think I'll chicken out and await the official update on my spangly new 1020.... a 520 possibly out of warranty is somewhat less of an issue :-p

chezm says:

Good move by MS

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