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Google releases statement, Samsung sends out internal memo on $1 billion US patent battle verdict

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We're already aware of the result for the Apple versus Samsung US patent battle, which left Samsung with a $1 billion bill. It really couldn't have gone worse for the smartphone manufacturer who has interest in both Android and Windows Phone (the penalty phase returns on September 20th though). Google remained fairly quiet on the front, but has released a statement that details an expected stance on the court results.

For those interested in what the search giant had to say on the matter:

"The court of appeals will review both infringement and the validity of the patent claims. Most of these don't relate to the core Android operating system, and several are being re-examined by the US Patent Office. The mobile industry is moving fast and all players — including newcomers — are building upon ideas that have been around for decades. We work with our partners to give consumers innovative and affordable products, and we don't want anything to limit that."

Samsung has also released an internal memo on the $1 million patent verdict:

"We initially proposed to negotiate with Apple instead of going to court, as they had been one of our most important customers. However, Apple pressed on with a lawsuit, and we have had little choice but to counter-sue, so that we can protect our company.

Certainly, we are very disappointed by the verdict at the US District Court for the Northern District of California (NDCA), and it is regrettable that the verdict has caused concern amongst our employees, as well as our loyal customers.

However, the judge’s final ruling remains, along with a number of other procedures. We will continue to do our utmost until our arguments have been accepted.

The NDCA verdict starkly contrasts decisions made by courts in a number of other countries, such as the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Germany, and Korea, which have previously ruled that we did not copy Apple’s designs. These courts also recognized our arguments concerning our standards patents.

History has shown there has yet to be a company that has won the hearts and minds of consumers and achieved continuous growth, when its primary means to competition has been the outright abuse of patent law, not the pursuit of innovation.

We trust that the consumers and the market will side with those who prioritize innovation over litigation, and we will prove this beyond doubt."

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out when the court reconvenes, and we'll be keeping an eye on future developments. As we previously covered, Microsoft has cross-licensing agreements in place with Apple, ensuring Windows Phone OEMs are protected from patent claims.

There's a remote possibility the patent verdict could provide Windows Phone with a window of opportunity, but it's still early days. Microsoft still needs to push Windows Phone 8 out the door, as well as working with OEM partners to launch new hardware before we can consider a strong spark of interest from other manufacturers and consumers. 

via: Android Central

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ade333 says:

Google:"We work with our partners to give consumers innovative and affordable products, and we don't want anything to limit that."

Including patents.

longcipher says:

Apple did not invent the smartphone. They did add a layer of polish and connect some dots. Samsung obviously copied alot of UI stuff early on. If I were Samsung I'd stop selling components to Apple. I realize they make a lot of money off of Apple, but I'm sure they could pinch some pennies to screw over their opponent. You can bet your ass that Steve Jobs would rather starve than sell component to a fierce competitor.

A billion dollars is a drop in the bucket for a company that is now the largest smart phone operator in the world. Samsung doesn't even make half of the phones listed anymore. This is also only a US verdict. Samsung could pay the fine and keep things moving, but they'd like for apple to license those patents at a reasonable amount so everyone can focus on making better products. Also don't confuse Samsung copying apples UI with Android copying IOS. In the end, that verdict will likely be reduced in appellate court and either an agreement will be reached on licensing or Samsung will pay the fine and increase component costs on apple and everyone else and keep the train rolling.

tbonenga says:

Apple was seeking 2.5 billion. The appellate review could also raise the amount over the 1 billion the JURY awarded. Apple wants a reasonable royalty. There was no problem with Microsoft and Apple coming to a agreement. Samsung just wanted to steal / clone Apple without paying reasonable royalties. Even though I'm definitely getting a Samsung W8 on T-Mobile they were crooks and deserve to pay.

eshy says:

What Apple wants, over 30$ per device, is not reasonable. and what it wants it for, they didn't even invent.

Fuck Apple, they can't create as good of products so they drag others down with basic, obvious features that shouldn't have been patentable. Way to go patent system, you screwed us over again.

Iconoclysm says:

You better believe that if anyone else came up with these features, especially Microsoft, they would be patented.

BK-one says:

I think Apple would be very happy if all android phones had this on the back. "compare to iPhone"....... like that store brand sweetner I just used in my coffee that is suppose to be like splenda..... See packing for more details..i see this as a long term win for WP. Time will tell.

ejlee072006 says:

Its BILLION NOT MILLION

ejlee072006 says:

Support wp8 and advertised the hell out of it... See billion $$$$ is nothing for this companies,,its the long term effect is the real deal... Legitimate software makers are the only one that have the right to exist...FUCKING google needs to get it RIGHT... companies need to recognize it too... Greedy Asian companies need to pay up!!!!
Apple just started...round 2 HTC and Apple

inteller says:

i could see HTC just giving up android and going all WP before doing battle with Apple.  They just don't have the resources to put up a sustained legal fight.  Plus, HTC didn't blatantly rip off Apple's designs like Samsung did.

paulheu says:

'which have previously ruled that we did not copy Apple’s designs.'
 
Well, the US court jury basically said the same, the guilty is with copying the UI which is quite frankly true.
 
 

gillaz1976 says:

Thank you google for allowing this to happen, my Nokia shares has risen 13% in the past two business days. Lol. If google had standards and had given direction then android OEMs wouldn't be getting sued. Google don't care as long as they get as many products out there, downloading free apps with advertising coz that's where they get there revenue. Well if OEMs move to WP they will struggle there. I don't use google products any longer since they change their privacy laws and withheld personal info they shouldn't. Already been fined by UK government over this. They think they can't be touched. This is a black weekend for google and possibly the beginning of the end in time. Good

gillaz1976 says:

US patent office need to review the patents they accepted coz some of them wouldn't confuse me into thinking I had an iPhone when I had a Samsung

Samsung brought up a good point that Apple's future success will more than likely come *more* from its legal battles over its competitors and not from its own innovations.

abhishek8605 says:

I believe the infringement was for hardware design and not anything to do with Android, so it necessarily doesn't mean Samsung is going to drop Android and jump to WP.

WinFan1 says:

I think Samsung needed to be humbled a bit we all know that the only reason the s3 doesn't look like the 4s is because of the litigation. Don't get me wrong I don't always support apples courtroom shenanigans but this time around I agree with apple.

jdep1 says:

Apple well sue even there own mothers & will charge you for every single thing they could think of. They have never created anything new if anything they found a way to sell there products by making people think there products are "cool". Samsung did copy design on some of there phones & made the UI look like iPhone but come on even Apple has copy stuff like drag down notification bar but at the end of the day its all about being on top & taking down threats. Made in the USA!

Tomasz S. says:

And who made you the judge? If there's proof that apple copied the notification bar from someone, let that someone sue Apple and let the court decide.

What? There's no plaintiff cause it was open source and Google doesn't wanna get their hands dirty? Well then you have no case, sir, have a nice day.

Lx23 says:

Most geeks read too much into this whole trial. I doubt Apple will go after all the other Android OEMs. Samsung will just pay and move on to finding new ways of doing the things Apple said they copied. Moreover, I really doubt Samsung will start putting all their efforts on WP. They'll do a little more but dear geeks, don't expect much. Just look at the S3's sales number. There's still a lot of money to be made from the Android OS. I think geeks should relax. Companies sue each other. Nothin' new really.

WinFan1 says:

That's a bit naive

ade333 says:

A billion dollars is a huge amount of money to Samsung.  Add that to the fee they pay MS and you have to start wondering if how much $ they lost per device.  Whatever that figure is, if it's large enough, may cause Samsung and others to think about the value of Android.  What was once an open and free OS is now obscure and expensive. 

WinFan1 says:

You said it brother

sneysrey says:

I have read all the comment everyone put, most says samsung copy Apple. But if you travel outside the country to a third world country you see how much american company copy idea or products from them. Because other country does not have patent, like us, company bring in idea and file patent to creat as their own. I am not a fan of apple, i don't like apple product, because apple still more idea than any other company. Samsung help them to succeed in supplies all the product for apple and now apple turn around says Samsung copy their products. I donot agree with jury that let apple win. Now apple will go around and sue anyone that look alike their product, so that they could dominate the smartphone world.
Technology should not limited to one company to produce. Technology is about explorer who do better, not one company and technology should also be open with any company that have better idea to put into a good use. Why so many people buy a product made in China. These job should be in US not in China.