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Joe Belfiore: We’re working super hard to bring customers their favorite apps

Joe Belfiore is a man the community has come to know as the face of Windows Phone at Microsoft. He’s been on hand for all major previews and launches of the operating system and runs the team responsible for Windows Phone product definition and design.

Belfiore recently sat down with the BBC for an interview about the current growth in market share that Windows Phone is experiencing. He did this last week, but we missed it and figured a few of you might have missed it as well. There are some interesting points brought up by Belfiore that are worth pointing out. There’s also a video after the break and some highlights from the BBC interview.

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So why is Windows Phone currently seeing relatively stellar growth? According to Belfiore, it’s the support for the right languages, right mobile operators, right price points, and full catalog of apps that is why Windows Phone is seeing growth. He does acknowledge it’s taken a few years to get here.

What is Microsoft doing to close the “app gap” with Android and iOS? Microsoft is working with specific companies to supply them with the resources needed to put their app out on Windows Phone. Depending on the app and the demand for the app you’ll see them doing things like helping out with marketing, sending in their own developers to help, introducing a company to a contractor, funding it, and more. It’s clear that Microsoft is committed to helping put the best apps out for Windows Phone.

There’s no doubt that 2013 has been a great year for Windows Phone. While a few of us may lament the lack of work done to the operating system itself, it’s hard to ignore the work Microsoft has done to growth both market share of Windows Phone and the availability of quality apps that users demand.

Check out the BBC link below for the full interview and article. If you're reading this in our app, you'll need to visit the BBC in IE to view the video. 

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PeadarWagon says:

Need you for RT also

rubenbest says:

Wp os needs to be the tablet os

montel22 says:

True, especially with the Lumia 1520

dam s says:

But Windows RT is more powerfull then Windows Phone, has more feature and is more complete, so why would you want to take a step back? Also in comparision with iOS and Android, Windows has snap feature, support multi-users, has the compatibility with all traditional Windows hardware and more.

The only thing that is lacking in Windows, compared with others, are the apps, so why you want to do a step back?

bradleyj says:

WinRT is way more feature complete. If they make Windows RT the OS for WP9 and add the apps from windows phone that would be a huge step forward.

Nik Rolls says:

I agree. I'm nervous about this whole 'Phone replacing RT' thing. I don't want a big phone (even at 7-8"). Android and iOS already do this, and the whole point of Windows tablets is that they're small computers rather than big phones.

wonder1070 says:

They're not replacing the os's they're jst merging the app stores together

Nik Rolls says:

There were rumours (covered by Mary Foley on ZDNet, and subsequently posted here) that Microsoft would phase out RT in favour of Windows Phone on low end tablets.

Andre Blonde says:

If you saw an Acer W4 then to put out anything like wp for 8 inches is pointless. That tab rocks the boat and here in Malaysia the ipad mini 2 and acer iconia w4 got the same price of 1200 RM (roughly 400$) but for iconia you get full win8.1 ms office 2013, 64 Gb, 2 Gig ram. And etc. It lacks only the retina display but i dont think it will hurt me that much. The only downside is the lack of LTE on that thing. But i still gonna get it. It's a win win8.1 situation.

Andre Blonde says:

Which brought me to the point of RT is no good and WP on a small tab is even worse. No hating though on RT since 2520 but one can see the advantage of 64gb for this price and frankly at this point i hope the bail trail will be strong enough to handle full 8.1

hwangeruk says:

I want RT. I want a "secure" tablet, that _doesnt_ run any old exe on it. Part of having a secure device (and one of the reasons iPad is so successful) is that you can only download from the store.

RT if anything should continue along its evolution, get rid of Desktop mode completely and MS have Office Metro style. I would LOVE that.

tallgeese says:

Hwangeruk, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!

pookyjoralyn says:

they should be merged together, RT will benefit from apps and WP will benefit from features

techiez says:

because it is not selling, and i'm afraid if they decide to ditch winrt and expand wp to tablets.

one we will lose all the functionality winRT has currently, secondly, current RT devices might be doomed just like WP7.5 devices.

Mike Dimmick says:

Windows RT and Windows Phone hardware should be compatible. Microsoft have never explicitly said so, but I believe WP7.x hardware was cut-off because it doesn't boot up in a way compatible with the Windows NT kernel. Windows RT devices use UEFI as the boot interface, and ACPI to describe to the OS what hardware is present and how to talk to it, just the same as x86 and x64 versions do. Windows Phone 8 is known to use UEFI to boot the kernel: http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-8-delivers-uefi-boot-manager-error-message/

 

Replacing the device bootloader is a pretty risky business, and UEFI and ACPI are complex, likely not fitting into the existing boot block area. Generally third-party implementations are purchased (e.g. Phoenix, AMI, the traditional BIOS authors). Add to that a completely different driver model from Windows CE and Microsoft strongly favouring a class driver model for the sensors (which require the sensors to report events and accept commands in a certain way, likely not compatible with existing sensors), which would mean writing all-new drivers for most sensors that wouldn't be reusable on real WP8 hardware, and you're left with huge costs to upgrade devices that were either obsolete already or soon would be.

 

Windows RT is no effort at all for Microsoft to maintain. It is Windows 8.x, recompiled for the ARMv7 instruction set. There are no features exclusive to Windows RT. However, because it is simply Windows with a different name, it carries around all the cruft of the desktop environment. I suspect Microsoft don't know what they can cut out and still have a working Windows RT. In addition, Office is still a collection of desktop Windows applications and since their differentiation from iPad and Android tablets is that it runs (nearly) full versions of Office, the desktop has to stay a little longer.

 

Windows Phone is essentially the rewrite of Windows (above the kernel level) whose native programming interface is, or will be, Windows Runtime. I would expect the next versions of Windows Phone and Windows to get closer and closer together, as Windows Runtime gets more complete, until apps can run on either with no changes, and Office RT is complete. At that point, "Windows RT" will be killed and replaced with Windows Phone but both will be rebranded.

tallgeese says:

It should be rebranded Metro and MS should duke it out in court.

12Danny123 says:

well. RT's and WP app stores are merging soon. so I don't see why they would need to

fwaits says:

Yeah ultimately if the Store's merge and apis merge to the point where any app made for the Windows Store could run on all platforms (Windows, RT, WP, and even Xbox), you can keep the UIs different between the 3 major platforms (Windows for Desktops/Laptops/Tablets, WP for Phones and other sub 7-8" devices, and Xbox being on well Xbox) since they are built to have a similar look, but function better for their relative form factors and sizes.  That's what I hope is happening slowly but surely with the shared core and APIs.

lubbalots says:

I'd appreciate it if Mr. Foire port wRT multitasking and dual windows to the 1520. So far its just a gigantic wp. Doesn't make any statements that says this is a WP phablet. This is why our phablet is better than the Galaxy Note. Also fix the music playback controls. Maybe a swipe down from the top.

Ravikumar401 says:

Actually we need lots of changes to operating system first, lots of features are missing here, then we can think of apps i feel

wonder1070 says:

You all need to remember that WP is a very different OS all together. Adding all these other things like a notification center, swipe this and that, etc... Makes it look more like all the other os's minus the tiles. The tiles are ur notification centers. The os doesn't need a center for all of them. Just dev support for the notifications and a smoother way of them disappearing when you go into that app. The more we add to WP the less it looks different.

Bloobed says:

How about setting a ringtone from your music library? How about complete silent mode (no vibrate) -toggle? These are very simple and expected things that are still missing.

cckgz4 says:

You CAN set a ringtone from your music library. GDR3. It's been confirmed, it's been LEAKED, and you can LEGALLY put it on your phone TODAY. Just because there hasn't been an OTA yet doesn't mean you can act oblivious

Bloobed says:

Sorry, did not know that. It's nice that I can finally get that major feature next year.

P.S. Group ringtones would also be nice, oh well, maybe in the next 3 years...

P.P.S. I really do like WP interface, but some of the (as of yet) missing features are really annoying..

PeltFrelken says:

The Live Tiles are not the same as a true Notification Center.

techiez says:

By different you mean you lower volume while listening to music and later when you exit music still volume is lower and then you miss taking you calls due to loer volume.

WP needs to be functional and not hide behind an excuse that "its different".

Again, I'd rather have a more functional OS than one that is "different". There's a reason Android and iPhone are as popular as they are, and it's not because everybody who owns a phone with those OS' on them are "sheep". WP is so close to greatness. It's little things like the lack of a notification center that are holding it back. If you don't want continued improvements to the OS then don't update.

2tomtom says:

As a consumer, I have watched Apple grow, watched Android grow and now watching WP grow. I am a WP 920 user now and love the wireless charging at home and in the car, the super sensitive screen, the double tap to awaken and photo apps i.e. Refocus.

Now does the, for example, iPhone have these? So why are Apple not on the BBC explaining why? They have, imo, tiny screens too. Does this make them useless?

Basically, I see the media view one sided. WP does not have as many apps right now, so fair enough comment for some. But iPhones don't have the above so why don't we hear about that? Just my opinion. I'm happy with WP at present and like the direction it is taking. So just wishing the bias didn't exist imo.

John20212 says:

How about bringing us OS improvements first? Not even your damn Xbox music is good enought and still fails to even pull artist art from your servers, improve THAT.

 

 

TJWINS says:

Yeah and I would also like to rewind parts of a song without having to start the song from the beginning.

Hold the skip back button down and it rewinds

FunksMaName says:

Not intuitive at all, most times I trie that, it just ends up starting the track again. A simple bleeding slider with a higher hit target for touch would do the trick, that functionality was definitely not tested as part of their UX tests on users. I just disabled cloud sync as as after GDR3, all my albums are still duplicated!

rockstarzzz says:

There is always someone else who moans. People moaned about Instagram, you have it. Give them a chance! They have pushed three GDR3, bringing OS hardware support on par with (Android) or better than (iOS) its competitors in just 12 months. Now with that out of the way and apps flowing in 2014 can be the year when GDRs bring feature parity, store merges, unification and more.

Fritzly says:

Moaning? People have been asking for a "week view" in Calendar since WP7, which was available in WM BTW, therefore more than moaning this is dealing with, to put it gently, a deaf counterpart.
I need a decent Calendar with week view, zoomable month view, coloured categories as in Outlook; an improved email client, again at least as good as what we had in WM; etc. etc.
Check how patient users of WP are:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions

We are not talking about apps here but core functionalities of the OS; personally I am waiting until WP 8.1 and see what it will bring....

rockstarzzz says:

Still call that moaning. Ok you didn't get calendar view like you asked for, for 3 years. Bad Microsoft. But you got a core that can merge with Windows RT and magically bless WP with apps that sync, extra 100,000 apps and Windows store with extra 180,000 apps - without anyone even asking. You got quad core from single core in a year. You got 2GB RAM support. You got tablets and phablets running the same core that in a few months time will have identical OS. Did those backend changes not justify a little slacking from Microsoft over a calendar view? Did gaining market share and mind share each quarter not justify it? Remember Microsoft doesn't make WP only. It launched Xbox One. It revamped Outlook, Skype, Windows 8, Office 365, Enterprise services, Azure - all in 2013. Did that not justify those uservoice requests given lower priority and left to be dealt with in 2014 GDRs?

Fritzly says:

No moaning at all, for me is just basic business: if a company offer what I need they get my money, if it does not.... another one gets it. Sic et simpliciter

superriz says:

Mate, I'm sure Microsoft has a team for each department to take care of their deadlines and product launches.

MaXi32 says:

See my post down there. I'm a developer for Android, iOS and about to enter into the WP phone. I know how you feel of being a Windows Phone user. Perhaps, you feel jealous with your Anroid and iOS friends out there who have more good apps in your phone. You want it to have on your phone but it doesn't and it can't exist in your current phone. Developers can't develop good funtionality apps like in the Android or iOS because the current WP8 OS is so limited interm of functionalities (APIs). Microsoft need to provide APIs and developers can't do nothing more than just to wait a green light from Microsoft to release their APIs. The problem is when Microsoft is going to do that? They said: "We are working hyper hard" since several years ago. You judge.

ikecr says:

download and install MPATool...that will fix your problem...

PeterFnet says:

I'd rather he focus on making an amazing OS that will bring developers to the table.

bjax says:

Can't he be doing both?

PeterFnet says:

Yup, absolutely. It's only recently that they started to bypass carriers, but only for the enthusiasts. It's a good start, but I hope more surprises are in stow.

poddie says:

Amazing OSs don't bring developers to the table. Users (potential customers) do.

But to get users you first need a great OS then (for most smartphone users) many apps.

Most people with Windows Phone did not select it for it's apps but for it's special OS, sadly it lacks in several terms, but more apps never hurt.

poddie says:

I would say WP is already a great is for 90%+ of users. That's why they are hitting apps hard now... the core is is pretty much working. Now they need to silence the "not enough apps!" crowd. In reality, they need to constantly be working on both of course... but focusing on apps this year was probably a good idea.

Nik Rolls says:

Not really. Users are happy to put up with an OS that is missing a few features as long as the big name apps are there. The draw cards for most customers go in this order:
Cost > Apps > OS feel/uniqueness > OS Features
Apart from the cost, this is why the iPhone remained so popular even though it was missing many features that other phones had; because it had apps and a nice UI.
WP is already winning on cost and experience, but apps is still a big blocker for sales. Once there is app parity, sales can increase, meaning more users, meaning more money for developers.

2tomtom says:

As a consumer, I have watched Apple grow, watched Android grow and now watching WP grow. I am a WP 920 user now and love the wireless charging at home and in the car, the super sensitive screen, the double tap to awaken and photo apps i.e. Refocus.

Now does the, for example, iPhone have these? So why are Apple not on the BBC explaining why? They have, imo, tiny screens too. Does this make them useless?

Basically, I see the media view one sided. WP does not have as many apps right now, so fair enough comment for some. But iPhones don't have the above so why don't we hear about that? Just my opinion. I'm happy with WP at present and like the direction it is taking. So just wishing the bias didn't exist imo.

Nik Rolls says:

Well said. No one calls Apple out for having almost no built in features and very few complain about many their features being non-standard implementations. But everything Windows Phone does is criticised.

fwaits says:

Exhibit A:  WebOS

I rest my case your honor...

Tips_y says:

I've seen a few reviews where BB10 is called an "amazing OS" and much better than WP8....

PeterFnet says:

That's a good way to look at it also. Considering the app void, I would hope more effort would've been sunk into OS rnd

Bloobed says:

Symbian had the most users, not many devs (that weren't hired by Nokia / Samsung).

Clavitox says:

You guys gotta remember that your needs are not everyone's needs. The os is great for me. Just wishing it had like 3 more things, but not big things, and they are coming so im not trippin. Most other people neither

I'm a developer and thought about it, but Microsoft has developed a closed-system vs. Google's model. I would really love to port my Android app, but Microsoft killed that with their dev requirements. I'm actually registered and everything with Microsoft. Who knows maybe gdr3 or blue might change that. That being said I love my WP8 Lumia.

Dean McCrae says:

What dev requirements did you mean? Gdr3 changes almost nothing, if you are a dev yiu should already have it.

Well, that's a bummer, and thanks for letting me know.

So it maybe blue at this point. I focus on productivity type apps, so there are certain permissions that Microsoft has said, "no," to the average user while Nokia, Samsung, and others are allowed to have.

diego3336 says:

Less talk, more work, Mr. Slowfiore.

ebradley says:

I call B.S. Full support commitment needs to happen. If I were on Apple and Android and see MS pushing updated apps to my platform or releasing a website instead of giving WP the leg up, it would not give me enough confidence to switch.

Nik Rolls says:

Or, it could give you a taste for the Microsoft ecosystem and make you wonder what it would be like to be a part of it.

mtg1974 says:

I'm still upset with the BBC for what they did to Lawrence Gripper. His BBC News app was one of my favorite apps. The BBC didn't have one to replace it, in my opinion they were just being bullies.

neo158 says:

If you downloaded it when it was available then it should be in your purchase history so you can reinstall it. The only thing you can't do is download it as a new user ;)

mtg1974 says:

I kept it as long as I could but eventually the live tile had to be stopped and that's when I gave up.

DennisvdG says:

PLEASE ANYONE, are snesx8, vba8 and vgbc8 delisted in the store???
I just did a hard reset because of stupid other storage ( thanks Belfiore) and I was shocked to see I'm not able to download these apps anymore

Jas00555 says:

Yes, the developer couldn't support them anymore. WPC did a story on it a while ago.

DennisvdG says:

I know but he reuploaded them right??

MajjieD says:

It's a gutter that one. Apparently the dev just pulled them. To my knowledge he wasn't threatened by either MS or Nintendo.

John20212 says:

Microsoft needs to put in safeguards so that nobody can completely pull an app from people who already bought it (or downloaded it for free apps).

Nothing short of a court order should be allowed to steal apps from people who bought them. And in case of a court order people who paid for them should be fully refunded when the app is pulled.

 

PeterFnet says:

This! So annoying when you pay for an app and they stop supporting and pull it.

ChMar says:

You don't buy software. You don't own it. You buy a lincense to use it. This is how the whole industry works.

John20212 says:

So would you say the same if your Office or Windows license just stopped working? Or if Steam just decided one day to take away your library of 100+ games worth hundreds of dollars?

Just because mobile apps cost few few dollars does not make it ok for Microsoft to just take them away.

 

neo158 says:

Have you checked your purchase history, they might be in there. The BBC News app was listed in mine.

MajjieD says:

Speaking a Contract Windows Phone developer working in Microsoft at the moment... the amount of work done there is insane. The old saying "shut up and ship" has never held truer.

Needless to say, I like working there so you will get no details about what's cooking.

Nik Rolls says:

Nice to hear! I'm envious of your job ;-)

bjax says:

Without specifics, can you at least say next year is the year WP stops playing catch up with features and specs and starts being more proactive in those areas?

rockstarzzz says:

Yes it will. We are as good as everyone else specs wise. Hardware is sorted. Core is sorted, its a PC on a phone now. Apps are coming. Shares growing. What's left to do in 2014 (three small updates + WP8.1)? - feature parity. I don't work for Microsoft, but I know from what I have been a part of since October 2010, this is the show time now.

bjax says:

I guess what I mean is will we get another resolution increase before this time next year? Will there be new devices with the snapdragon 805 sooner rather than later? Will there be support for running two apps snapped side by side? Stylus pen support? Some of those things we don't have that other OS's support, and I could easily see a galaxy s5 running the 805 chip months before a WP comes out with one. That's what I mean by stopping playing catch up and jumping ahead of the competition.

rockstarzzz says:

Probably not. WP isn't in a race for cores and big processors. That's not what it needs or differentiates on. Samsung on the other hand needs to keep pumping them out for keeping Android bearable and differentiating in saturating OEM market for Android.

bjax says:

For the record, I agree with you, but it's all about general (public) perception. They're gonna compare and rely on whatever salesperson tells them is the best. Most salespeople don't explain how WP doesn't need all of that, they'll just say, "Take this galaxy 5 or iPhone 6. It has better specs than the WP. You'll be happy."

Nik Rolls says:

In general, salespeople are the pits. They're either geeks who sell Android phones, or they've been drinking Apple coolaid and sell iPhones. The good ones who actually sell a customer what they need don't last long. I speak from experience as a past salesperson, and then a Nokia sales trainer.

What Microsoft needs to own is the marketing. If there's one thing a salesperson can be guaranteed to do, it's sell anyone who knows what they want exactly what they ask for (less effort for the commission). So if more people are walking into stores asking for Windows Phones, they will sell.

JD Miles says:

Could not agree more. My personal experience in at least 8 different AT&T stores has been just that. I had to literally insist I wanted the original Focus WP 7 and in fact defend my decision that I thought the WP operating was going to someday tie the three screens together. What did AT&T do for me, well they NEVER released the update for the Focus that was available from MSFT. When I upgraded to my L920 I still had to " swim upstream " with the salesman in regards to my choice of WP !! Thankfully the 920 was able to sneak by the AT&T f--- heads with all its intended features from Nokia unlike the way they have stripped the intended specs' for a proper version of the 1520 . AT&T and its mostly fan boy sales force have been the biggest hurtles this operating system has faced. I shudder to think how many customers were lost to this state of affairs. I am a hard headed old fart ( 68 ) and had I not researched what" I " wanted in a smart phone I never would have made it past that first Focus phone. Thanks to Nokia I am still a fan . By the way I went thru three of those Samsung Focus phones with each having the same faulty charging port after a few months of use, otherwise I really liked the Focus and thanks to Qi wireless charging I don't know if my L920 is weak in the same area as the Focus. I'm so pissed that a carrier like AT&T was able to emasculate what Nokia intended the 1520 to be !!!! Rant over .

jlynnm350z says:

I'll give you a dollar.

Shame BBC don't support windows apps as much as ios and droid

MajjieD says:

Try reading one of their tech articles. They're insanely anti-MS.

Nejcooo says:

Oh yeah? Make a bliidy steam client than

ZX9 says:

YEEESSS. Except that that's not happening. If that happens...well...

RN50 says:

Work harder

It's always nice to see more apps, especially apps that are popular on Andoid and iOS but what they really need to do is vastly improve on the OS itself. Comparing Windows Phone 8 to my old Nokia N97 with Symbian it's missing many features.

Some things my Nokia N97 with Symbian can do that my Windows Phone 8 can't (if some of these are possible please tell):

 

- A file explorer

- Send a photo via Bluetooth without turning on Bluetooth first.

- Seeing details for a photo, like name, time and date, lacation, size and resolution.

- Slide show for photos (never needed it anyways)

- Weekview in calendar.

- Profiles (like the good old Genereal, Silent, Meeting, Offline and the option to time it like having silent until end of school)

- Dictionary, my N97 has a great (for it's time at least) built in dictionary and it's possible to download three languages and writing in one language and getting the dictionary result for another language, great for travel.

- Built in recorder, although we have the feature with OneNote and many apps available.

- Lower sound when activating speach (holding Windows button / green call button.

rockstarzzz says:

Does N97 have same OS as a PC? Can N97 have apps that sync between PC and phone? Can N97 support quad core? 2GB RAM? 6 inches pure view screen? Work with gloves? Wireless charging?
The things you listed as features are fugly lines of codes that can be achieved once a strong backbone is laid. Windows Phone 8 is capable to run PC OS now. These features will appear. Patience.

techiez says:

even MS /Nokia dont advertise the features that you've mentioned. :P

they seriously are missing in marketing and advertisement as well, all I see in ads is they boast abt the camera, its not enough, the wireless charging, super sensitive touch all these need to be highlighted.

Nik Rolls says:

- No need for file explorer on a phone. Seriously.
- NFC turns Bluetooth on if not already. Not all phones have NFC I know, but neither did the N97.
- There are apps for that.
- Ditto.
- That would be nice. Maybe in Cortana?
- There are apps for that. Symbian's dictionary UI really was horrendous compared to anything you get on Windows.
- You already answered that.
- This would also be nice. Again, maybe in Cortana?

freshfelicio says:

Dont need more apps, thats Rudy's job, and he is doing much better than Microsoft and the companies they talk to. We want Windows Phone 8.1. All the features with sync and shit Windows 8.1 has. Cortana.

kjnoel says:

Good thing that's your opinion.

Nik Rolls says:

Yep, Rudy is great, but he's one man and the OS is growing. How long until he runs out of capacity to maintain his apps? Going from one developer to a team is not an easy transition.
Also first party apps *matter*. Try convincing anyone in a sales pitch that Snapchat isn't there, but there's a great alternative. No sales person will go for that in case the alternative doesn't pan out, and then they've sold the customer something that doesn't work for them.

Sagar Limaye says:

When I was buying my 820, I didn't worry about the apps as much as I did about Bluetooth support being available. People consider WP as a restrictive os and that is why WP doesn't have market share.

Bring Gamevil over!!. They amazing and fun games for ios and android. I would be so happy if Gamevil came to WP

Tirinti says:

They should be working on bringing users OS features that are missing in WP and on finding new OEMs to produce WP devices, because most people don't like hipster Nokias.

They also should be working on new version of XNA, because C++ is very outdated. Then they could do the add comparing easy XNA game development against very complicated C++ development.

ChMar says:

Then don't use C++ use Unity or whatever library you want. But saying C++ is outdated just proves the level you are at.

Bloobed says:

Comparing a library to a language? How about the multitude of game-engines that the C++ -support brought (which is the only reason we are seeing many of the games now btw)?

C++ is outdated ?? Do you know that core kernels of windows 7,8 are built using c nd c++ ... If you wanna take advantage of the hardware to its fullest,(like massive gameplay) you need to develop using something which is efficient in doing that. Repeat after me "C++ is the best programming language created ever" ;)

Dean McCrae says:

Actually C was, but i know what you mean...

kinpin2131 says:

I could care less about apps, I want more features on Windows Phone... still no notification center  , no vpn 

bonjoo says:

Haha, its soooo funny. I lovin my phone BUT IF my contract end (about 1 and a half year) and i will not see that this amazing os grow to android and ios eco sys. Then i will switch back to Android or iOS. I think a lot of you thinking the same. I mean i dont like Android at all, BUT how messed up and what a joke is that we got after 3year our first notification on Facebook?

As a non-US users I'm not in a contract (and if I was a two year contract for phones is not legal, one year max) I do like my Windows Phone and I don't like iOS and prefer to stay away from Google. Anyways, with a needed Lumia Black update Q1 next year and Windows Phone 8.1 Q2 it's looking good, if they only manage to merge to Windows 8 and Windows Phone stores next year. Other than that you have a great ecosystem with SkyDrive and I do like the Xbox eco system they are combining more and more of Windows 8 and Windows Phone API's and more so it's looking good on that end. If the new reorganized Microsoft actually plays well with each other and starts to release updates faster it will be great and hopefully your timeline of one and a half year will be enough for Microsoft to make Windows, Windows Phone and Xbox a great ecosystem and with SkyDrive and OneNote you have a great ecosystem for the one or two devices you or a family member has that is not Microsoft.

Nakazul says:

Great to hear there working hard at least. Would be a shame if they just worked average. :)

jlynnm350z says:

More more more more more more more more more more more, need more!!

Where is my candy crush!?!?!?

 

 

 

 

Warren Dance says:

On your sisters ipad

I left it at your moms house the

other night.

They bring us one app thats been wanted for like 2 years and then they brag about it... Give me a break with this publicity shit and make some effing apps. Literally. You have all these small time people making third party ones that are BETTER within weeks. Are you kidding me?? MS does alot of talking. Not alot of producing. I'm not waiting for any apps. Just speaking my mind based on what others are going thru. Happy with my L925 and Nokias unrivaled services.

Because people make a big fuss (from WP users and not WP users) about a few big apps and Microsoft wants everyone to know that it's now available here as well and one less missing app for Windows Phone.

I get it. But still MS does alot of talking. How many times have MS promised something "in coming weeks" and its like a year later? Its happened enough where no one needs to disagree. MS simply wants to cover everything up. And everything they bring us after waiting is never what wed like to expect. Always over hyped. I simply think they can try harder. The money they have, there's no excuse. Impossible for them to have an excuse.

Nik Rolls says:

'Coming weeks' ending up a year later? Give us one example.

Surprised one disagrees. Any other takers?. "year" is slightly exaggerated but 6 months isn't too far fetched. Anyone else work for MS? Or doesn't keep up with news and has input? Enter comments below.

Nik Rolls says:

6 months != 1 year. Exaggeration == FUD. We have enough FUD already. I keep up with all the news.

In general, if you want to complain about something, be prepared to give evidence for your claims or they will be challenged.

Freedom of speech says I don't really care. Ur one person. I'm explaining what thousands say already. Evidence? This isn't NCIS. I'm not under investigation lmao.

Nik Rolls says:

So you can just spout whatever opinion you want with no evidence to back it up? What is this, the internet? What happened to a decent argument?

Sagar Limaye says:

A smartphone which doesn't have a proper file manager isn't worth defending, so stop with your fan boy shit.

Nik Rolls says:

Not a fanboy, and have no need for a file manager. I can do everything I need to (and so can most people) without it.

Let me remind you that I stated im happy with my L925. I'm stating what OTHERs say. Fucker

Nik Rolls says:

That makes two of us.

Lol. Story is over. Happy trolls. I mean trails.

Sagar Limaye says:

Hahaha keep telling yourself that! Chutiya

Well,Mr.Sagar,MS will not be bringing a file manager anytime soon to windows phone,get that to your head.If u need file manager,or a phone which will replace your computer,kindly switch to android and be happy with the viruses,rooting and d phone which will be sluggish after a year.They have integrated skydrive totally into windows 8.1,the so called file manager for wp users is that.That is enough for people who use d phone as something in addition to the pc,not a full fledged computer

techiez says:

A cloud based option is not a solution, not until everyone has access to high speed cheap internet everywhere, till then skydrive is "NOT" a replacement to a need for file explorer.

Sagar Limaye says:

I will probably leave the OS if these features are not implemented in 8.1, along with 76000 people who've voted for a file manager on the suggestion box. There is simply no excuse to not have this. SkyDrive cannot replace a file manager! After all the only files you can upload to SkyDrive are media and docs, what sort of file manager is that? What about code files? Or other misc files?

MaXi32 says:

I don't want to have a file manager to access into specific files that I'm supposed to view like the system files. I want to create a folder, arrange my document, example I want this:

root/documents/PhysicNotes/   - >contains hundred of powerpoint and pdf files

root/documents/PhysicNotes/Lab -> contains hundred of powerpoint and pdf to be viewed in MS powerpoint + Word in phone

root/documents/MathematicNotes - > contains hundred of others documents.

 

BUT hey, you can't manage your file that way like above. It's impossible!

So, here is what you can do and restricted to put your files in one folder without the file manager:

root/documents - > Contains few 2 hundred files in one directory and prevented to create folder.

 

Same goes to the photos. You can't move your thousand photos in the 'Camera rool" album into another albums without using a computer.

 

 

==== This is to explain why most people need this file manager. Having a file manager doesn't mean we want to access the root. We want to manage the files and organize it systematically ===

PS: The android has a built in file manager but with iOS you can download a 3rd party apps. in Windows Phones, it's not possible.
 

 

Sagar Limaye says:

It's almost as if they read my comments! :D Faith restored...

Nik Rolls says:

Yeah, uncanny timing ;-)

MaXi32 says:

The built in File Manager doesn't exist in the current Windows Phone 8. I'm supprised that, the uservoice Admin is able to troll WP users and think that their users are completely fool.

Nik Rolls says:

Obviously it means that it is finished and will be in the next update ...

techiez says:

yes there is. headover to the forums and you would see how it is usefull, dont imagine a android/symbianish full fledged file explorer, but ppl need a way to acess any file types that they need to access, how about a docuement hub like picture hub, we need that and there's a sizeable number of ppl wo agree.

Isn`t d office hub a document hub?didn`t really get u there..other file types support is a thing which i believe maybe introduced to skydrive,dnt really think they wud b gng onto make other hub though.

techiez says:

If I have files on my SD card I want to access them simple. I hope you are not suggesting that I upload  files from SD card to skydrive and then view them.

thats dumb.

If u have too many docs,yeah thats a problem.Lets hope the hub gets improved.

MediaCastleX says:

You realize that the vast majority of the apps available on Android and iOS are made by various third parties, not directly by google or apple...why is it squarely Microsoft's responsibility that apps are/aren't made available. Soylent Green, its PEOPLE man! O_O

Then why is MS making it there responsibility by replying in the first place. I don't even know what apps ios has. What I do know is that most are on both android and ios yet not WP. Coincidence? MS would pay them to make them if they cared

Credo93 says:

The only apps i need right now are all three apps for Belgium.

I need BNP Paribas Fortis bank to make an app for Windows Phone, but also Belfius bank and also ING bank Belgium. They are still answering me that i have to use the mobile website to do all of my bank stuff, this is ridiculous. I want an app not the mobile browser expierience! They all have currently no plans to support Windows Phone, this is so sad :(

erzhik says:

Kinda ironic to see a giant Adobe Flash Required picture in this article on a WPC app on the phone.

fwaits says:

That's the BBC video, which of course we know they don't care much about WP right now...

HeavyHanded says:

Give me autodesk sketchbook and I'll be in Shangri-La. We have gigantic phones but no sketchbook equivalent app (layers).

flipturn2 says:

Time to work on app for the nest thermostat. They have been shutting down 3rd party apps one after the other.

RaRa85 says:

Now if only the top and latest Nokia devices would be available to all major US carriers at the same(or almost the same) time I believe Windows Phone could grow even more. Great job on the apps though so far.

Blkacesvf41 says:

Sirius XM! Sirius XM! Sirius XM!

theefman says:

Still can't do simple tasks like rearrange tracks in a playlist or send photos at full resolution in emails but they're going to bring us more apps! Whatever happened to the "less in and out of apps" philosophy? Why isn't the Hub functionality expanded to encompass things like a News hub for all our news apps, weather, social networking, etc. WP is basically the same as ios and droid being totally dependent on jumping in and out of apps all day long, MS is again failing to take advantage of a product they own.

Nik Rolls says:

I'm not sure if it was about less in and out of apps. It was more about reducing the complexity of the navigation stack, which they solved with UI paradigms like hubs, and deep linking into apps and between apps.

Bigsro says:

How's about support from the BBC?

RayWP7 says:

I would argue you don't "need" any if those things you claim if you're already on WP. Fact is they are the software company and we are the consumers. If you don't like the support that its receiving, move on. People just like to complain. Why do people leave other platforms for WP in the first place? Because -something- is lacking in their current platform or something speaks to them from WP. Parity will require time, otherwise they are going to focus on features that set it a part from the competitors. I'm sad VPN isn't here for me to use RDP on my 1520, but I'm not gonna bych and moan about how they did this and should do that.

lolpetewtf says:

How many time has he said this

david90531 says:

That's great news. Really need to fill in the bigger gaps, soon as possible. Already going much better these days

TK2011 says:

He did well in the interview as he always does. He could have answered "sure there are unjustified criticism..." but he held back and just gave only forward looking response.

Boy this place attracts a lot of idiot fans. I guess it's unavoidable when a tech site becomes big like WPC did.

birgs says:

Windows rt windows phone should be one, no separate operating system from smartphones to tablets, like ios and Android runs on both smartphones and tablets ,,and the full windows 8.1 is great desktop operating system that's also run on powerful tablets.

WP8 may be reaching parity in quality of apps and "importance," however they're far far behind in the games department. The most important selling point for me, Xbox, has been extremely anemic. It used to be a majorly emphasized selling point of Windows Phone, now it seems as though Microsoft has all but forgotten about it. If GTA San Andreas is lacking Xbox support, Xbox on Windows Phone is dead.

k0de says:

Good interview. My opinion he is doing a great job. I am new to WP I left android for ios and now I left ios for WP. I like the direction and the innovation the WP platform offers. Wow all languages; soon all kind of developers will be writing pretty sophisticated apps for the windows platform. I already like the Nokia 925 much better than the iPhone 5.

mrdeezus says:

2 words, Candy Crush.

xkimo says:

Would be nice to have an Alaska Airlines application

Aldiggi says:

I love windows phone and all but MS should have been working hard to bring all our favorite apps since day one.

Nik Rolls says:

Do you not think they were? You need a certain customer base before people take you seriously, no matter how much money you throw at them.

chmun77 says:

Please bring us a solid Facebook app for a start?? The People hub is so dated now with its limited functionailty. Can't even do post sharing with that!

Nik Rolls says:

Try the official Facebook app ... ?

chmun77 says:

Do you mean the office Facebook app which is always in BETA?? That's is super lousy too.

Nik Rolls says:

There is a beta for people who want to keep up with the latest features, and a stable which is a few weeks behind.

Dantekai14 says:

I am seeing how hard Mr. Joe Belfiore are working.
3 years and still missing basic features.

Nik Rolls says:

Which features? If you're going to complain, at least state your case rather than just spread disinformation.

Sagar Limaye says:

Are you blind? Can't you see we don't have a file manager, office features are broken, no SD card support for apps, videos being inaccessible to apps?

Nik Rolls says:

I'm not blind at all. But if you're going to give an opinion and want people to listen to it, you need to state your reasoning for it. Otherwise you may as well go back to YouTube.

Dude the problems he said are everyone's probs...
Im fed up of waiting for games...my friends tease me i don't have subway surfers which even a 50€ android phone has...wth.no notification bar also win 8.1 is the last chance:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(

Nik Rolls says:

And I don't disagree with him or you one bit. I was referring to the OP and the fact he is just complaining without giving a reason why, which is not what this site is about. At least you and Sagar gave valid reasons for your upset.

Sagar Limaye says:

If wp8.1 doesn't bring all those features, then trust me you're gonna be the only one that's left in "WP ecosystem" xd

SD card support for apps,better office and notifications hub will be done in wp 8.1

file manager-skydrive and that will be it,don`t expect changes there

 

 

Sagar Limaye says:

Haha! How do YOU know that? Nothing has even been made official about wp8.1 yet

Notifications hub was already seen in many of the d leaked images which were even featured right here on wpcentral,about office its a no brainer that it will be upgraded because of d phablets being released and about SD card support for apps, thats something which takes time,even in android many of d apps initially cudn`t be installed to SD,that was introduced later.Can`t guarentee that in 8.1 but twil be there soon.

Sagar Limaye says:

Considering the fact that the software engineers at MS are most likely toppers from their respective colleges, it shouldn't be hard for them to implement these. Isn't 3 years of time since the launch of WP enough? Lol

Well,lets just put that to this simple fact,they haven`t actually bothered to advance the mobile experience in d past few years as they should have after the explosive growth of the iPhone and blackberry in almost the same tym.Lyk every co.they devote their resources only where profits are,and that was the desktop OS.But the demise of BBerry and Steve Jobs has actually given them an oppurtunity,which they are trying to capitalise right now.Its now or never for them,so they r finally doing it right now.Again,they knew any improvement in windows phone ealier would only profit nokia,so they tried to prioritize HTC but it didn`t work out.Now having bought nokia,ultimately if windows phone succeeds,ts good for them alone and thats what they`ve always wanted,call it corporate monopoly of MSFT.

Next year,u will c them seriously push things forward lyk they`ve never done before not cuz they acquired anyone new,its just that now for the first tym after d iPhone era,they feel they can compete...

 

 

Dantekai14 says:

http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions

Lets take the top ten

Tell me how many features available for general public.

Joe Belfiore and his teams takes more than 3 years to introduce basic features like Auto- Rotate screen on/off, Closing app from multi-tasking screen.

Are you really think these are unique features of WP?

So, like it or not WP team is the laziest developers team and about apps, not only we are missing tons of apps but those who are avaiable are paid (which is free on other OS). Even our Mobile Nation which is other OS getting free , WP users have to paid to get similar quality.

And they need more phones either from Nokia or another brands cause their are not enough phones on enough carriers in different sizes and shapes that will get way more customers not only apps and whatever their trying to do I go to t mobile I see two windows phone and 50 android devices also at every other carrier yeah we need you to work with more carriers and phone manufactures like HTC, LG, Samsung, and more! Cause their is not enough WP that are different with companies designing them in their own way we get some of that we would get a lot more growth!

Kaye Morales says:

How long should we wait? I'm about to give up. When all still fails in the release of WP 8.1 then I'm out.

4look4rd says:

Can you guys imagine a future where phones run on intel chips and have full Windows 8 on them? Man that would be awesome.

Of course not so we can use desktop apps on our phones, that would be ridiculous, but a phone capable of running full W8 when hooked up to a monitor+keyboard/mouse (just like the Ubuntu Edge project) has the potential of revolutionize the mobile industry.

Buy the phone and attach it to a larger screen to get a table, or make it a fully fledged PC. One device for everything.

ntice_521 says:

YES! Microsoft and Intel are joined at the hip even if neither of them like it.

 

Bloobed says:

The mobile Ubuntu releasing next year will support it, and while I think WP could support similar functionality, why would MS want to do that? Right now people are buying the devices which have a much higher licensing cost than WP + a WP license.

Sagar Limaye says:

This guy is so full of shit. How does MS put up with him? He's brought only shame to the operating system, even when he could've done a lot. Devs aren't gonna care for this platform till we get market share, and market share will improve only if he gets the OS issues fixed, right now it seems about the only development you can do on WP is creating weather and lock screen apps. He should also open the SDK so devs like whatsapp can at least add video sharing support.

Bizk1d1 says:

I disagree, a lot of people only Carr about apps e.g. Does it have Instagram, candy crush, dropbox etc etc

anonymousg says:

I think the phone8 is great. I see it more widespread, which considering I'm in silicon valley is saying something. All the competitors were born here. There are still app holes including Southwest Airlines and ironically app support for Ford Sync powered by Microsoft.

Am i the only one who got excited seeing flash

Doom At Last says:

I don't care about the apps anymore. I want some OS updates that doesn't make this phone seriously lag behind iOS and Android already. If they fix the OS then maybe you'll see developer interest MS

hill climb racing comes to windows and works like butter on my lumia 520..... started loving windows 8 ..........

Noticing this topic, there is one app in particualr I would like to mention. Its an already existing app and nothing new : IMDb

This is one of the top class apps in the WP store. However, it has not been updated for about 1 and half year now. Millions of WP users are using this outdated version and are frustrated asking again and again for an update. Getting this app in line with the Android and iOS version would be a big moment for WP users.

In addtition to new apps, Joe Belfiore must focus on the exisiting ones that have a lot of demand and start working towards improving them.

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