Microsoft allegedly working on two phones that offer 3D Touch

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Microsoft has been heavily rumored to launch a device with a 3D user interface later this year, with the device allegedly slated for a launch in the month of November. However, a report out of Neowin suggests that Microsoft is considering launching two handsets that come with the 3D Touch feature enabled.

3D Touch is said to be the first major hardware/software innovation that Microsoft will inculcate into the high-end Lumia devices. The software giant is said to include APIs for gestures, side interactions and heat maps so that third-party devs can access the 3D Touch technology for their apps. As for the McLaren device itself, the latest rumors indicate a 5.2-inch full-HD screen, 20MP camera along with a 64 GB internal storage variant.

In addition to McLaren, Microsoft is allegedly working on a 6-inch device that will also feature a 3D Touch interface. Earlier today, a leak revealed that Microsoft was mulling a Lumia 1525 for later this year with updated hardware that includes a Snapdragon 801. So it is possible that the Lumia 1525 is the second device to feature the 3D Touch interface.

As for now, we only have rumors to go by, but as we move closer to an official unveil, we will have more information on how Microsoft intends to implement this technology.

Source: Neowin



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mjyumping says:

wow. what a phone

Rawliglat x says:

Really I dont get all the hype about 3D touch. 

Hope it doesn't add an so much more cost to mobile devices. 

Agreed to one extent, but good to have for those who might need it.
About the two phones however, maybe same phones but two different carriers??? Not getting away from exclusivity deals altogether but it'd be a good change in regards to increasing consumer base at a wider range from the get-go.

duk3togo says:

Rumor that the 1525 is not exclusive to anyone and will be released across all carriers including EU.

Tips_y says:

Don't get them if you don't want them. It's not as if that's the only phone Microsoft will put out. Me, I want!

kingkoopa09 says:

U mean like never touching ur phone again no buttons gestures are great, flip the phone it hangs up, pick it up it answers

My Lumia 820 has 3d touch, sometimes :P.... I don't know whats the issue ... but i can control mobile without actually touching phone, fingers about a cm apart :D

newfreeg says:

Mine does the exact same thing, I can sort of scroll up and down without touching the display, I don't know how or why though.

that's cause of the super sensitive touch

girishN says:

My 520 also has this!

Rawliglat x says:

Well guess who were the first to own the 3D touch even befor it was out.

rhythm215 says:

Even i can operate 520 sometimes without touching xD lol i dont how it is possible but it only works when touch sensitivity is on HIGH

Sagar Limaye says:

That's because the touch sensitivity is by default set to high. Set it to low and that should stop happening

I could do that on my 920

j_the_geek says:

I think it's to do with the type of touch display used. It 'reads' electrical/thermal signals from your fingers and reacts accordingly, and as it's possible for heat to radiate and electrical signals to 'jump' (think NFC) then it's possible for you to use the device without actually touching it.

I could be wrong :)

Rawliglat x says:

"pick it up it answers" ... If thats how it works, Im gonna be picking a lot of calls I wouldnt otherwise want to pick. 

And when I use the Samsung S4, the swipe over gesture was useless to me. I felt it was to as extra cost. 
If i have to put my fingers few inches about the screen, I may  aswell touch the screen.

Water resistivity will be a better spec for me.

2tomtom says:

Agree, that's why I'm getting the Nokia Lumia 930 and not waiting for this rumoured Phone.

kingkoopa09 says:

That's where cortana comes in, there will probably be several options for them all, and it would be more of a pick up and place to face, or pick up and flip face down to decline, kinda like flip yo silence option. I'm excited for it nice "addition" the demo seems to be very accurate if so can be great

WillBrown says:

We have the "pick it up it answers" ability in at least one scenario now: When I'm driving and have my phone connected via Bluetooth.

If the phone rings and I have the phone face-down, I flip it over and it answers. I found this out by accident the other day. I was just trying to see who was calling.

Mavee Shah says:

And then we'll see it's an Android phone...:(

kingkoopa09 says:

I highly doubt, Microsoft will probably just stick to low budgets right now that's there bread and butter, good luck cracking into Droid look at HTC,LG and Motorola high ends compared to Samsung, not even worth the money and wont put a dent in market share just sit on the shelf til they sell for a penny and somebody who doesn't know that they're getting besides a cheap phone. If they can sell budget Droid and keep Samsung from flooding it too soon it could help build brand at the least

Mavee Shah says:

But if they name it Lumia... It's too rude

RayWP7 says:

Agreed. I don't normally care about the hypy things like hover-touch-pen stuff, finger print scanning, etc.  Though I can imagine them being useful its hard to know until I've used them.  3D touch is a little different. If it is what is sounds like or even reported to be, I might be excited about.  I have terrible body chemistry and so I leave prints on everything and have to constantly wipe down things. Don't get me wrong, its not like sludge, but if I can gesture and near proximity touch my screen without doing so, that means less prints.  But that is the extent of what I can imagine.

kingkoopa09 says:

Same here and I can by a screen protector for my screen and not worry about smudges and the feel of them yet have that extra protection

umangpop777 says:

What is actually 3D touch??? I didn't get it...

wpguy says:

I have a feeling the 64GB variant won't be available in the US, similar to previous models sold within the last year or so. (Everyone else rejoice.)

64 gb with quad hspa

Robholden says:

why would you only want HSPA??? LTE is where its at

Lumia 1020 64gb in Brazil. =D

x I'm tc says:

I want a smaller one.  The size of the HTC 8X was pretty much perfect.  My L920 is about as big as I really want to go.

Why do all high end phones have to have such large screens?

kingkoopa09 says:

U want thin u gotta have larger screen, u want more features included but tinier something has to give look how big 920 was with wirless charging, now u wanna add 3dgesture dual sim, more memory, SD slot, and more but smaller and thinner

schlubadub says:

Yeah, there's a huge gap in the WP market at the moment. Mid & low-range devices have microSD but top-end / flagship models don't. Then we jump up to the ridiculous 6-inch phablets with all the bells and whistles. I just want a 920/925/930/1020 with microSD... That's it!

ymcpa says:

Because it's not about you. It's about what sells the most phones. Android has phones in many sizes, but it's the 5" phones that sell the most. One of the most requested features for the iphone is to make it bigger. 4.3-4.5" phones won't sell as well as a 5" phone.

John Morris6 says:

Would need to name it the lumia jarvis

I hope they keep the McLaren name and make it actually look like a McLaren P1

andydd says:

I want to see this on computer monitors

kingkoopa09 says:

They do have them for monitors u can purchase separate leap pad motion I think its called

Daniel Meek says:

Leap Motion is sadly a bust that is only useful (and limitedly useful) with apps within their own app store. It really would have been an amazing periphrial for desktops without touch screens, but it really does not work particularly well for that.
The next best thing looks to be the Kinect 2 coming out soon... but we will see how well it will work for that. It may be better as a future Cortana and gesture interface and not that great for a touch-less screen input option.

Eric Arc says:

Kinect for PC.

rockstarzzz says:

Available 2020. US only, global the year after

Zulfigar says:

No... later this year, 2014.

Rawliglat x says:

Zulfigar why don't you write a memo about how fun you are at parties?

Late 2014? It's only the announcement. rockstarzzz is speaking about the market availability

kingkoopa09 says:

Actually they have been announced codenamed are just getting attached to actual devices

The_Lord23 says:

It's a joke! Familiar with such a concept!?

josonjoy1986 says:

Forget it bro.....:)

Hahahahahahaha, nicely said.

cesar ruiz1 says:

I think bbm is with flipboard on a beach.

Don't forget about YouTube :P

TJWINS says:

They said July so we shall see.

firesword9 says:

News on 29 July shall be: We are apologetic that the BBM is not making to Windows Phone this month but it shall make to Windows Phone SOON (read 2016)

myoujin says:

Bye bye Microsoft?

mixtnet says:

If they make that Lumia Android crap then yes! BBM!

btgusto says:

if true, the 5.2 is my next phone

Anubis4574 says:

Same here! Its definitely a worthy successor to the 920

Aaron M says:

And about time too. L1520 was nice but a little big, and icon/930 were simply late and with almost year old specs. I'm not saying any of those phones are bad, they just didn't carry the same launch gravitas as the 920.

x I'm tc says:

Isn't it a little large to be a 920 successor?

josonjoy1986 says:

That's welcome....

CyclingNut says:

Should be an exciting fall! Hopefully the 3d stuff isn't gimmicky and is actually useful. By the way, I'm a fairly well read person and have never seen the word inculcate. Word of the day for me!!

Broomcorn says:

I'm not convinced it makes sense in this instance though...

JoRdaNeK says:

Haha I was more interested in that word rather than 3D touch for a moment

ladydias says:

Inculcate means to teach earnestly in an effort to impress knowledge into the learner, especially with repetition. And no, I think they meant to write "include".

CyclingNut says:

I assumed it should've been include also. Still though, it's fun to learn a new word.

ladydias says:

Of course. New words are always fun and it's amusing to tease people with them. ;-)

rahx says:

I want a lumia 1030!

Mingu7 says:

totally with ya on that one!

My wife has the 1020, which is a great phone.  But I find I can get a quick shott off quicker with my 920.  A 1030 with updated internals to make that 41MP camera a bit faster to startup and go shot-to-shot would make my day.  Add in wireless, charging (which may thicken the phone in a good way to reduce the camera "buldge"), a microSD slot, and retain Glance screen feature, and I'd be in heaven.

oh, and offer it in cyan and/or purple :o)

DalekSnare says:

+1030. I really want that camera; I'm still sad that the 1020 had a screen I couldn't stand. I waited with my 900 for months until the 1020 came out, took one look at the screen, and sadly went and bought a 920. Some people are okay with PenTile 768p screens or don't even notice (wish I was one of them), but to me they look awful.

Chregu says:

What's the advantage to just touching the screen? Using the phone with dirty fingers?

It may allow pressure sensing? The closer you get to the screen, the more pressure it should apply for painting applications... Just guessing, of course.

Chregu says:

Practically I see some issues with that though. It would be incredibly hard to be accurate just moving the finger in space above the screen.

Steven Curl says:

Being able to "mouse over" a tile instead of selecting it. For instance, this can show an exploded view of the tile to give to more info or access to deep links within the app directly from a single live tile.

Chregu says:

You would probably have to hover your finger a second or so over the tile that the sensor doesn't mistake it for movement. In this case you could just implement a difference betwen click and longer press on the tile (screen) directly. Then it also wouldn't look like you try to magically curse your phone.

The "mouse over" thing could be helpful, I don't know who much it would affect me in every day life though. After all now I just choose the "selection" button and can do the same.

Woah! Someone is scared of technology here

Chregu says:

No, not at all. Bring it on, but make it useful first. Samsung had this 3D thing, nobody was thrilled by it, Amazon made it better, still nobody was thrilled by it. I just wonder how Microsoft will really make it useful. They make very good products, they are not really known to be innovative though. When they are, they usually drop it and leave it to Apple to make people buy it ;-)

2tomtom says:

Agree, I tried the Samsung version and it is really annoying. Works, doesn't work and you end up just switching it off.

Zulfigar says:

Having the screen turn on when you take it out of your pocket, air waving to the next/ previous page/ up and down the home screen, there's probably more, but Microsoft will be inclined to tell us the rest when it's closer to time.

Chregu says:

The first thing you could already do with the proximity sensor. The air waving thing was already a gimmick on the Android devices that had it.

I'm not sold on it yet, Microsoft might have time to sell this though.

j o e l says:

Say you're at the home screen, hovering your finger above a pinned contact will bring up more info about the person - recent messages, etc.  Or if you're in certain websites, similar to hovering your mouse over certain items allows a certain level of interaction..

x I'm tc says:

Hover is a big one.  Lot's of Web sites offer dropdowns when you mouse over menu items.  Those don't work very well on touch devices.

2tomtom says:

I had problems with these until I discovered that holding your finger on the dropdown for 2 seconds or so makes the menu stay on screen, then you select.

kingkoopa09 says:

Look at the 3d touch gesture demo they had here on previous article not sure where but clears up a lot of what you guys are complaing

It's maclaren and superman I guess , but I wanna see Lumia 830 "Tesla" I feel it's very excellent phone !

willboyce says:

Bring them on

KrisJoeEll says:

In light of some recent rumors, We have to wait & see whether these devices run WP8.1 or Android? :p

euichii says:

Don't spoil the fun here brother. Lol

Zulfigar says:

Naa, I'm thinking that whole ordeal is a deal between Microsoft and Samsung (since Samsung is in bed with Google). Probably one of those "I'll put Windows Phone on my Galaxy S5 if you put Android on your Lumia ####." We'll see the outcome later this year I suppose.

kingkoopa09 says:

It's with all manufactures they allow any device that they produce that can run android can runs WP it was a build announcement it was a change to the core of 8.1 so they don't have to split resources which kills windows phone

Sin Ogaris says:

Samsung wouldn't give a toss if android was on Lumia, they've been making in roads to try and break out from the restrictive android system. Just haven't been able to do it yet because frozen seems to be g gone before it began.

Mark my words though, Samsung will end up going on their own, if only so that they can make more money.

yocktan says:

With 64 GB, i think it would offer dual-boot.

kingkoopa09 says:

They put a hold on dual boots for the moment one had tried but was stopped just before launch

Rasetech says:

Too big for me. Maybe it will runder under Andoird ^^

Speak positive
Don't speak negative
Android will lag even on such high end hardware

x I'm tc says:

I dunno.  The lag differential between Android and Windows Phone is probably zero at this point, with 8.1 adding quite a bit, and Android almost totally shedding it's own.

spazinvader says:

Shedding??? The last two updates of Android added nothing but bug fixes, new dialer and Chrome browser update. I don't see any performance improvements or better battery with those updates on my friend's nexus 4

Sin Ogaris says:

No it doesn't.

wozburger says:

I'm not sure I've ever read the word "inculcate" in a tech article. Bravo!

Surely the first time for me in a tech article. I have come across it in some other articles though but definitely not on a tech article. Amazing how we leave the main news and discuss about a word.

McLaren on (likely) AT&T...or 1525 on TMo? Decisions decisions...

euichii says:

Based on previous rumors. MS phones will drop the exclusivity and even be sold in vending machines. Lol

cdb033 says:

I hope there is a 6 inch option...


That's what the article says

spaulagain says:

That's what she said...

rodneyej says:

I hope that the "1525" has an even larger screen while outer dimensions stay the same, or increase only slightly... I really want a 6.3" High end Lumia device...
One thing that I'm waiting on is photovoltaic screen technology.. That's where our screens can solar charge our batteries... Supposedly Nokia was, or is, working on this.

indieimprint says:

WTH @ 20 megapixel. very disappointed

sueha says:

My DSLR has less MP to offer. What's your point?

dalydose says:

Your DSLR also has zoom lenses. I love lossless zooming with the 41MP oversampling.

indieimprint says:

my point is.. are we talking about a 1020 successor or a 1020 downgrade? BC my 1520 camera pales in comparison to my 1020.

Eric Arc says:

If its only 20MP, then it most likely won't be the 1030. But we will have to wait to know. Stop and think before you drop a comment.

ymcpa says:

This sounds like a 920/930 succor, not a 1020 successor.

theblankat says:


But now I wonder, will there be a successor to the 1020 anytime soon? I love the 1020 form factor, just wish it had faster processing and more internal storage.

Finally 64GB INTERNAL!

rodneyej says:

Yes!.. That's very nice.

I was thinking that having 64GB on my slow as molasses Surface RT is plenty, so 64GB on my next Windows Phone coupled with a Snapdragon 800(+) cpu should definitely suffice. And it's faster than using expandable storage.

mark233 says:

TIL what 'inculcate' means. TY WPCentral

This better not be Android

shriyanshk says:

It's good to hear this news. But hope the Lumia they say means Windows Lumia not Android

astroXP says:

So McLaren is Lumia 1530 and Superman is Lumia 1030?

lubbalots says:

Any thoughts on how 3D touch will be innovative? Like what can be done with it that makes it compelling that we all have to have it?

cannon#WP says:

If you've used hands-free mode in Bing Food, it's like that but much more advanced.

Sin Ogaris says:

I can think of things that would benefit, but it needs to be implemented well. I am on the fence as to whether MS are the right company to try as they have already shown that they can have arguably some of the most amazing technology around (Kinect) and yet completely balls it up by not actually doing anything with it. I am hoping to be proved wrong though.

Even just something as simply as being able to clench my fist above the screen to "lock" the phone as a companion to the double tap to wake (even a gesture to wake, as I find double tap often doesn't work if the device is resting on a soft object). I use the hand hover to check the time constantly (when I don't have my watch) so more simple little things like that would be a great benefit.

Customizable inputs would be the bomb though, if you could set up your own gestures to basically do whatever you want it to, that would be the best. Like holding a peace sign to open Facebook without unlocking the screen.

The idea has so much potential so I really hope they don't balls it up. If its just about hovering you're finger over the screen to do things that you could have done by tapping the screen once, not good enough.

Sweeping to change music tracks from anywhere would be good too the buttons on the side of the phone are too annoying to get to as a left hander means adjusting my hand position.

lubbalots says:

We all have to wait and see to judge I guess.

kingkoopa09 says:

Go watch the demos of 3d gesture touch, u clench the phone to unlock no buttons and things like swiping music are just as mention if app takes advantage of it, demo looks awesome like putting phone to face to answer and putting on the table to Hang up or speakerphone

Sin Ogaris says:

Technically the answering/hanging up can already be done with the proximity sensor, but the other stuff I like, I just want a lot more, I expect a lot more.

Sh4mo says:

Let me doubt about its usefulness.

theefman says:

Only question that remains is, will it be running WP or android?

badger8080 says:

Any for Verizon

Sin Ogaris says:

I'd be stoked if the six incher had this, it's be fun to tinker with and see if its any good. I don't particularly want to downgrade my screen size now as 6" is sublime.

Jf.Vigor says:

6 incher does have this

Aashish13 says:

This would be McLaren. I'm waiting for that

cannon#WP says:

I'm due for an upgrade right now and there's nothing to upgrade to. I'm hoping that SOMEONE will bring something new to AT&T soon or else I'll just wait for this. Hopefully the McLaren looks good and not like a typical Lumia.

KarateDad says:

After having a 1520 for two weeks,I can't imagine going back to a small screen again, so I'm really glad to hear there might be a 6" version!

Aashish13 says:

Microsoft start promoting your One Microsoft ad on television. They really need to start that b4 windows 9 rolls out next year.

TrustySnooze says:

That's too bad they're going to be massive.

The McLaren sounds gorgeous - it had better have a sd card slot! Only reason we're not considering the 930 (we have the 1520 devices so not losing too much)

All of this is for not if the Android article is true, because most of us would be lost as customers. Many of us refuse to buy phones based on OS's that their own company is looking for an alternative for.

percistratus says:

3D has been tried and failed on mobile devices. I don't know what tricks Microsoft have in the bag to make this a success

kingkoopa09 says:

It's not 3d it 3d touch its a difference basically think Kinect gestures on ur phone not a 3d phone per say

erzhik says:

3d touches were tried too and also failed.

spazinvader says:

Touch phones were also tried and failed until iPhone. MS can also do wonders.

keifwoki says:

And it uses heat mapping... Not a camera... With dedicated sensors, it may open new doors ;)

Peg Leg says:

Will one device be a traitorous Android?

faida says:

What about 730? I love my L720 it's beautiful. A successor would be good with same beauty, 1gb ram and 720p screen.. :D

kingkoopa09 says:

Between cortana and r3d ur phone never has to be touched again

ByeVanno says:

Ugh 5.2 too big for me I was hoping I would be 4.7 but I guess big phones are what everybody wants these days

lansky1213 says:

I'm gamed! Looking forward to these new flagships. Hopefully MS can standout in front the crowd with this one

crise says:

I think 3D touch will be used for interactive livetiles. It is impossible to make them interactive now, because you can't differentiate touches. If you would have a livetiles with a play and pause button, you would accidently launch the app or stop or play something. With 3D touch you could say, touching the tile opens the app, and hovering the tile allows you to control the interactive parts of the tile. You could point with your indexfinger to a button and then give a short tap with your thumb on the side of your indexfinger to press something that's hovered.

2tomtom says:

That would be really useful whilst driving my car :/s

crise says:

You're not supposed to toy with your phone while driving you car. :/S

kingkoopa09 says:

Or it could be used as a cursor instead kinda like the Kinect just hover over selected tile but shows ur placement on screen

Sin Ogaris says:

Technically the Jolla phone already has something akin to interactive live tiles. You can store left or right on a tile to do different commands related to that application, there is no reason why that could not also be done in windows phone.

kingkoopa09 says:

I guess i should finish paying off my 1520 I purchased via next plan and get the 152+ when its released

And they're both running Android..! Actually the 64GB is the part that is the least believable. Sure would be nice.

goodbar_dev says:

C'mon... 5.2"... that's just too big

crise says:

Not when it has almost no bezel. That would be great.

goodbar_dev says:

If that is true, that is damn sweet and i'll retract my statement :)

JohnCz says:

This rumored 1525 is more likely to be identified as 1535 if they continue to follow the naming pattern for these 3rd gen devices.

Sin Ogaris says:

I was really hoping the icon was the beginning of them moving away from the horrid numbering system they are using, it's getting way too convoluted.

KarateDad says:

I disagree, with numbering you have some idea if a phone is low end, middle or high. With names it is ask just noise and confusion.

Nik47 says:

Nice phones. I hope for a change they launch this year in countries that actually buy Windows phones in decent numbers.

spazinvader says:

I am sure they will launch at least 2 devices. One for AT&T/Verizon and another for the rest of the world ;-)

OMG55 says:

It's not going to matter what they're working on if they produce an android powered lumia

TechFreak1 says:

That would be the final nail in the coffin, if they do that.

keifwoki says:

Better tell Samsung and HTC the same! Can't see the problem with it really... The more MS owned products sold, the more money for WP ;)

kingkoopa09 says:

Not really who besides Samsung is really making money with google HTC and LG dedicate nearly everything to Droid and still barely gain, I see them sticking to low budget

Not really excited about this, but is a good move

How would it response during rain ?

RaRa85 says:

The news is getting better by the minute today.

Fndlumia says:

Instead of just the digitizer to f up and need replacing there will be multiple more sensors... Keen to c this in action.... Fire phone was meh. Hopefully this can be implemented more practically than gimmicky visuals. Get my green 930 next Thurs... Xmas in July! Now hurry up 1030 and McLaren and 1530 and surface pro 4 and an aneurism... ;)

txDrum says:

5.2 inches. Arg. Hopefully you have awfully thin bezels. 5 inches is ideal for me, but ah well. Maybe they needed the room.

I'm with ya. That's a big ass phone! I hope it's thin as well.

diplomat696 says:

5.2" device with or without touch and I'm all in when my renewal comes up

TechFreak1 says:

Sweet a 64gb variant, if it includes an mSD card slot with the 805 SOC, 2gb ram, full HD, dedicated camera button, glance + double tap, 2,500 mah battery and I'm golden.

ScubaDog says:

Non-value-added.  I just don't see any usefulness to 3D touch on a phone outside of being a gimmick.  They need to concentrate on speed, battery and camera---particularly the camera.

keifwoki says:

Driving, fingerprints, dirty hands, change track through case/covers/pockets? Maybe additional commands i.e. hover over opens more options, additional game controls?? ... One step closer to holographic display controls lol ;)

raul_junior says:

20 megapixels? So its not the 1020 succesor

Duffau says:

"64 GB internal storage"
And I jizzed in my pants.

keifwoki says:

Just release it MS dammit!!!!

HyperKid says:

Wait wasn't McLaren supposed to be the successor of the 1020 by having the same bump AKA 41 MPX???
Even though it's a rumor but still......

Prodigy11 says:

Is the 3d touch the one developed by Nokia or the one developed by Microsoft?

elitelibra says:

I would like either phone and November is perfect to get a new phone for me. Hope its not just a rumor or gets delayed

dsba says:

We are only few years away from the Star Wars holographic communicator on our Lumia!

misfitpierce says:

I'm excited for this. Prob go for the 5.2" tho. The 1525 is nice but I'm not a huge fan of ultra large screens personally. Still happy with 4.5" Lumia 925.

usman567 says:

They should give 3D touch features to all over Lumia !

anandv427 says:

64gb..wow...bring it on...5.2full hd....3d...

Antluv82 says:

can't wait for that 3D touch

louisoneal says:

I have a rumor to share.