Windows Phone 8.1 Blue

Give it back: Microsoft asks for return of Lumia 920 with early build of Windows Phone 8.1

For being a weekend it’s been somewhat busy. Yesterday we had leaked screenshots showing off a developer build of Windows Phone 8.x – notification center in tow.

The notification center was obviously the biggest piece of info from those screenshots, but there was plenty more info to be gleamed from the phone. Quick recap after the break and a story of what happened to the phone bought off of eBay that contained this build of the Windows Phone. And don’t forget, our sources say those screenshots are an “early” build of the next-version OS.

The images were posted in a Reddit thread from user Chinaman28 who had bought a Lumia 920 off eBay. Apparently the device was never meant for sale because it contained a version of Windows Phone that wasn’t ready for the public yet. We won’t know whether it was someone selling a stolen/lost device or an employee at Microsoft accidently shipping the wrong Lumia 920 in his collection.

Either way, Microsoft reached out to the Reddit user to reclaim their lost property. They reimbursed him his purchase and still gave him a new Lumia 920. A fairly happy ending for Chinaman28.

Leaked screenshots from Windows Phone 8.1

Further down in the Reddit thread you learn some interesting things about this Lumia 920 running a prototype version of Windows Phone. Mostly the fact that the words “MSFT” were laser etched into the back of the device. When booting up the phone he also saw “not for resale” in red. I guess you could say, wait for it, that was a red flag.

One little thing a lot of us missed in those screenshots from yesterday is something that will make any science fiction fans giddy with joy. You’ll see it above. But there’s an app called zCortanApp. I’m probably ready way too much into this, but could you imagine if our future voice assistant on Windows Phone sounded just like Cortana from Halo? That would be a coup de grâce to Apple’s Siri, in Halo matchmaking we call that a headshot. Other items noticed on the Microsoft owned Lumia 920:

New Features and changes Windows Phone 8.1 Blue (experimental or in development)

  • Notification center
  • Ability to close apps from the multitasking window
  • Sort apps by most used
  • New calendar interface with a week view
  • Data sense available

Windows Phone Central has been able to confirm that this these images are from Windows Phone 8.1 aka 'Blue' and not GDR3. These images were from an earlier build of that OS and the Notification center as seen has since been removed from later iterations, having changed into a more People Hub-like experience before being removed altogether. That's not to say Notifications aren't coming but rather Microsoft is experimenting with different versions of it for 8.1.

In other words while the images are authentic, they should be taken as a snapshot of the development process and not the final form of those features. Windows Phone 8.1 Blue is not expected until the end of the year, although ship dates as we understand have not yet been finalized.

Source: Reddit



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...and then sue the hell out of them when they return it....ohhhh....sorry. Thought this was Apple we were talking about.

Ha ha... I got it!

Haxcid says:

Or send the local law enforcemnt with a search warrant to collect the phone for them.

Barrett1134 says:

Cortana as my assistant = pure awesomeness. I cannot believe I didn't think about that as an answer to Siri for WP. I sure hope that comes to be...

Sam Sabri says:

Every morning.. she'd be like "Wake up Barret1134"

Kram Devil says:

and she will then fall into rampancy and then every morning she'd be like "Watch your future's end Barret1134".

Alphageek_UK says:

Just like my girlfriend 

mango.lover says:

You might not realize this, but you've just said a mouthful. Wait till more leaks come out...

Viipottaja says:

Explain. Please. :)

mango.lover says:

It's not the voice. must *search* some more ;-)

Duffau says:

Something to do with universal search? Please explain more

WereRat says:

That's great, but I'll use these when and only when I can put a custom voice profile on it.  A generic professional voice assistant is not interesting.  One with the voice of, say, a neurotoxin-addicted rogue AI from Aperture Laboratories, would be priceless.

Murani Lewis says:

Never played Halo before so was unfamiliar with Cortana's voice. After 2 minutes of YouTube footage I want it bad!!! This would be so awesome.

Would be amazing!

Shambels says:

Halo needs to die, I loved it in its prime but now its just a cash cow.

Jack Larson1 says:

Bungie sold the franchise after reach to 343, they ruined it with halo 4, bungie was the " in prime" dev

sasukeluffy says:

8.1? Wohoo!! Some great improvements I saw there! :)

bluemooberry says:

well, looks like this wasn't fake, then.  
can't wait for some official 8.1 announcements. 

Shambels says:

Yeah I can't wait either but I hope the notification center is built in and not a required tile.

Shantek says:

A tile wouldn't really be that bad? A single tile with a counter and clicking it shows the notifications

glassadam says:

But I don't want to have to go back to the home screen to access a live tile. Less clucks the better, as in a pull-down or swipe-over from any screen within any app any time.

falconrap says:

This makes no sense. The only screen that would be doable would be the lockscreen. App screens have the flow to each page. So it's lockscreen or homescreen. I say a clickable spot for notifications on the lockscreen and a tile on the homescreen.

Reui says:

what about a double click on the lock button? :D

Tenorek says:

See I was thinking using the app switcher as notification center. Accessible anywhere/anytime. Hold back button, and have a bar at the bottom of the screen that you could slide up to reach notifications. Very smooth, very fast. I'd call that doable

AMPed126 says:

Personally I was thinking a swipe up gesture from the windows button, and then you would see a notification center pop up, I think that would be nice and fluid, access from anywhere, any app. Convinient too.

x I'm tc says:

It just has to be there. I'll live with it as a tile, long press of some button or other, swipe this way or that way, whatever.

But it must be in the next version if WP or I'm out. I can live with the other shortcomings (although the email client is also bordering on unusable) but not this one.

x I'm tc says:

removed: accidental double-post

MadSci2 says:

Well, quite a difference from Apple, calling out the San Fran Police "Hit Squad" to seize, arrest and harass people. Kudos to both MS and the lucky recipient for handling it in a peaceful, respectful, and civilized manner.

If anyone needs evidence that nice, spiritual Apple has morphed into a souless, evil Corporate Monster, just compare their reponses to the lost iPhone 5 and this!

Josh Harman says:

Just wait until they find out who sold it.

blackhawk556 says:

It was Ben the PC guy lol :-P

MadSci2 says:

Well that's a different matter altogether. And wait till they find out who "lost" it.

shreyas15 says:

Lol.. Oh yeah! Sad guy who sold it. Lmao... Ben the pc guy? XD

Duffau says:

I'd love to agree, and to some extent I do, but didn't Apple try to be civilized at first? I think, was it Gizmodo that had it, wasn't cooperating.

Microsoft better bring WP8.1 early.

End of the article. Read it. Come back, delete comment, save face ;)

In Limbo says:

You catch everyone don't you? Lol

Well, I try to answer questions in comments if people have 'em and I didn't address in the article--that's party of my job and I enjoy it. But when people just don't read it, gets frustrating after awhile, lol.

HaibaneReki says:

Gotta catch'em aaaall! ^_^

Hey Daniel, sorry, I got a little excited. Can you have a look at this thread here:
This "Google Maps" app by Live Maps seems to combine HERE Maps and Google POIs (Also one review says this). I don't currently have a WP. Can you check that app please.

Iain_S says:

i have this app and its pretty good, default layer it uses here but you can add google layer too and will open here drive for all your driving needs, not a bad app.

backlashsid says:

Wow !! looks nice !!!

Josh Harman says:

In your article you in fact stated that the dates have not been finalized.

kwajr says:

+1 how can people even comment are ask questions if they haven't even read the article.

Josh Harman says:

-1 original comment made more sense than the reply.

Stevied1991 says:

That's "party" of your job?

Viipottaja says:

Hold on, so you are clearly implying.. no, saying, that 8.1 will come earlier than the end of the year? :P

hopmedic says:

So much for the people who said the story was fake....

In Limbo says:

I'm just glad to hear that that notification center was just one of a number of different concepts.

Looks to be a solid update that adds some, in my opinion, necessary features. 
Now give me the option to add a SwiftKey/Swype like keyboard so I can get my wife onboard with a Lumia 521.

Sean Maloney says:

Yes! A swiping keyboard is sorely missing from WP. Pecking at a tiny keyboard is incredibly inefficient.

Ticomfreak says:

TO ALL PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE SWYPE: So, adding more features is a bad thing? You're starting to sound like the PS4 fanboys...

peterfares says:

All WP fanboys are like this. They don't want ANY new features added for some reason. Every time someone asks for a feature that WP doesn't include they always say that it's a stupid unnecessary feature. Then Microsoft adds some feature that people have been asking for and suddenly it's great.

The fanboys have all been saying notification center is useless and tiles are a better solution. Now Microsoft is implementing a notification center. Soon it'll be a great feature that no one can do without. 
It's like the iOS fanboys all over again. C&P useless. MMS useless. Third party programs useless. Notification center useless. 

no notification center is actually a valid argument, seeing as more developers implement live tiles then they do push notifications, already making an nc more flawed on Wp than the tiles (both require developer implementation). As far as fastkey/swype, i think that would be fine, but should be optional. When i use my dads phone, a samsung, with swype, it often thinks im swyping to another letter when all im doing is pressing a key, ahich would make for a problem for typers like me who keep having to backspace words that are autofilled and attempt to spell out what word we wanted. So perhaps an additional keyboard under keyboard settings that includes a swype like feature would be best.
Windows Phone could use some features from other phones too, i will agree. Viable Voice assistant and search, shared file access between apps (already implemented with the documents folder on Windows Phone 8 for Office Documents/PDFs), a file chooser like that of Windows 8/RT, cardDAV and calDAV support, full photo view in people hub, new motion controls for devs to take advantage of, and sound equilizer are some things i can name off the top of my head.
However, things such as a Notification Center, Lock Screen app access and widgets, and a file browser, all may sound good to some in theory, but in a real life implementation, they would be broken or worthless. They would be: undermining the OS design (its a lock screen for a reason), lacking more developer support than the already implemented alternative (Notificiation center would require more developer intervention then live tiles), or would open the os up to malicious intent and/or create more worries for the average end user (a file browser could easily be exploited by an app, if implemented, and would make file management even more complicated by adding a new method on top of the current way of doing things, being opening the file types respective management app (Office, Pictures, etc...) and deleting them from there.)
So some cries of unecessity or uselessness have valid cause, even if the user making these cries doesnt realize. But others are just whiny complaints from those who are unopen to improvement and innovation.

Zamir Yusof says:

Same here, I prefer to have Swype option since I can type/swype words without having the need to always look at the keyboard.

tbonenga says:

Personally I hate swype. I can type great on my W8 keyboard. I also know some people have larger hands and some have fat fingers. Some have small ones and still like swype. That's all my son uses on his G3. So I definitely think W8 needs it. Even though I'll never use it.

glassadam says:

I would love swype or swiftkey. Turns out the keyboard on my 920 just doesn't agree with my long fingers. So often I type "sk e" instead of "some", for example. It seems to be letters toward the right side of the keyboard. I'm just constantly correcting mistypes. Anyway, swype would maybe help.

In Limbo says:

This week has been like a Law & Order episode with electronics . . .

mango.lover says:

Remember, some of the screens weren't actually WP8.1, but actually Chronos Calendar.

Viipottaja says:

I have Chronos Calendar and at quick glance could not find that kind of week view in it (note: I don't actually use the app so possible I just don't know where to look :) ).

q21701 says:

Definitely not Chronos Calendar.

mango.lover says:

I meant the live tile.

billiam149 says:

I don't see the need for the notification center. Nor do I want one.

Codesmith says:

That makes one of you. :)

MikadoWu says:

I am with you....... Billiam149.  I do not need either.  I hope I can turn it off, or not use it at all.

billiam149 says:

Thank you! Is it really so difficult to scroll the start screen to look for numbers? I have every thing that I would get a notification for at the top so its all right there. No need to make it more like Droid and IOS.

Mystictrust says:

It's not all about "looking for numbers". There is no evidence a toast ever existed once you miss it. That's an example right there for why people might want it. It's a subtle insult to imply people are getting mad at having to look for the numbers on tiles... That's not all there is to it. You don't need one, great, but others might. Try to look at it from more than just a "numbers on tiles" issue

jsnod25 says:

If you read back to the original post related to this story, it mentioned how the notification was a pinned tile, so if you don't want it you don't pin it... Also BOTH articles mentioned how the notification center has been removed in newer builds, so as of now its not there...

willied says:

Cool story, bro.

I agree, I personally don't need a notification center. But I hope they add it for those that do need it. Also gives some people more of a reason to look at WP as a viable option.

schlubadub says:

+1 I will never use it, but I want it in the OS so everyone shuts up about it :P

Rubios says:

Don't use it.

Problem solved yay!

zishbu says:

To me this is exactly like Instagram. I could give a sh*t less about it, but I'll be happy for the platform when an official app comes along. In order for the platform to be great you want level pegging in every aspect. Notification center is no different. FWIW I don't see need for it personally. I don't use it on my mac and didn't on my iPhone (before I saw the light and came to WP ;) )

devize says:

You people who say that the tiles are a notification centre have clearly never used a device with one. Sick of all these arguments from people saying they don't want it. If you're happy with how things are then you don't need to use it, leave it for the people who actually understand why a notification centre is needed in the OS. Guaranteed all these WP fanboys saying they don't want this feature/don't want that feature will use it and be glad that it is there.

LeiChat says:

+1 for Cortana inside my Windows Phone. #halo

Sponge920 says:

I don't know about US law, but in the UK if you unknowingly buy stolen goods they still don't belong to you. They have to be returned to the rightful owner and you lose your money. (Have to take seller to court to recover monies.)
In this case, the rightful owner (MS) got their goods back and did something they didn't need to do, i.e. give the buyer a new phone. Good on them!

jsnod25 says:

New phone and full refund = free phone for the hassle... Gotta love big corps doing the right thing.

astroXP says:

LOL What does that have to do with LeiChat's comment?

ioannisgk says:

I wouldn't give it back to MSFT. If you paid for it, its yours. I dont care if it was stolen or not.
EDIT: I welcome policewomen knocking on my door, I could then just say that I lost it. I would NEVER give that device to MSFT. If they want it badly, they can pay it badly.

That's fine so long as you don't complain if the police come knocking on your door, as is Microsoft's legal right.

Mike_Milacek says:

I'm sure you would think different if it was something stolen from you.

Blocks9 says:

The buyer didn't intentionally steal. There is a difference!

kwajr says:

No it doesn't matter in the eyes of the law it is illegal to posses stolen property....

In Limbo says:

-1 For no logic, lol. Microsoft could not have handled it better.
EDIT: The original comment just went from -1 to -1000000. Somebody call up the ugliest lady cops on this guy.

Codesmith says:

+1 for the -1 in logic on that one!

jsnod25 says:

And a +1 for the +1 on the -1

Its illegal to buy stolen goods. Just FYI.

What if you illegally purchase legal goods?

jsnod25 says:

If you do it knowingly LOL

Agent-P says:

It's not like Microsoft is asking for it back and nothing in return. Not only did they refund the price he paid, but they gave him a brand new 920 too. Apart from the screenshots (which are already uploaded online), what more can you do with it? I would've given it back too.

LAXNover says:

Such a deep level of understanding of the law and how property works.

Rishicash says:

They would have found you through PRISM anyway and by that time considered a technology terrorist and would be arrested and detained by the Dept. of Homeland Security and maybe have an extended Cuban holiday adventure for a few decades. 

In Limbo says:

We have our winner today folks!!!

Kram Devil says:

I concur!  an additional + 1000000 for timeliness!

Rishicash says:

Laugh today lads for tomorrw we cry!  

Jean80 says:

In the UK it is still illegal to buy items that were stolen, whether intentionally or not. I guess the same applies here.

billiam149 says:

I like windows phone as it is.

Rishicash says:

Some people say that about Windows XP too.

glassadam says:

Yep, there's absolutely nothing that needs to be improved. At all. Ever. It's perfect and I hope they never come up with new features for us.

Mike_Milacek says:

Good job Microsoft! That's the right way to handle it.

This leak was very bad timing for Microsoft with WWDC's iOS7 showcase tomorrow. Tomorrow's presentation by Apple will probably be very polished and close to final yet the images in this leak look dreadful.
Glad to hear it is a very early version of 8.1 as it all looks very inelegant and seems to fly in the face of existing Windows Phone design language. Granted the red doesn't help but I'm not so sure it would look loads better in cyan.
I hope Build brings us some real information about WP8.1 though, it's irritating as all hell that Windows 8.1 gets a public preview in a couple of weeks and an actual release in two months yet the seemingly more and more useless Windows Phone team struggle to even release a fix for the 'other' storage issue six months after release let alone a new version of the OS.

DenniSundaY says:

I couldn't have said it better. What I already commented is that I also thought the notification center didn't look like it was made for WP8. And it irritates me too that they are still struggeling with the other storage. I can't reduce it anymore and it is already over 6gb of the 14gb available. I am so pissed! I hope that they are already testing the new version ( I thought that was supposed to be GDR2) with the carriers and phone brands ( I have an unbranded HTC 8X). And 'other' is not the only bug in WP8. I also have noticed that my phone is getting slower somehow. Really weird because it has an 1.5 gHz processor and 1gb ram. Sometimes when I open an app, the tile is getting deformed and getting ready for the tile animations and stuff, but nothing is happening. And sometimes when I start an app up, It takes also realy long moments to open in (hangs on startup screen) and that with random apps, not specific apps. 

Codesmith says:

The good news is, what you see RE: a Notification Hub will not be part of 8.1. No need to worry there.

DenniSundaY says:

Thanks for the info :P. I read the article again and that's indeed what they're saying there. But they also say they maybe are experimenting with it so...

jsnod25 says:

They are no doubt working on one to some capacity, it will also likely be a feature you can toggle on and off, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Rashed Elbaw says:

Is that available on Nokia Lumia 620

jsnod25 says:

The obvious answer to your silly question is... If your phone runs windows 8 your phone will get the update... Its not a device specific OS update. That has never happened and never will.

glassadam says:

Except, uh, wp8 for everyone with 7.5 devices. Just sayin'.

jsnod25 says:

Except, uh, Lumia 620 is a WP8 device, your point is moot... Though I'm not sure what exactly your point was...

"That has never happened..." was their point. Microsoft did not release an upgrade for windows phone 7 users due to hardware incompatibility.
this has caused fear that the same will happen to wp8, despite microsofts reassurances and the fact theyd need to change the kernel and rewrite hardware compatibility again to do so, which doesnt play into microsofts efforts to combine xbox, tablet, phone, and pc.

jsnod25 says:

Ok but MSFT never made the claim that WP7 would upgrade to WP8, it was just assumed... And many of us were wrong... Also I specifically stated that has never happened for a single device to get an OS update and the others not (WP7 case in point, none of them upgradable). So you still missed the point of my statement. He was asking of WP 8.1 would be available for the 620... It will be. Were talking about a WP 8 update, not an OS upgrade to WP9... That will be a different story when that issue rolls around.

i know this. i never assumed anything with wp7 but many did. i didnt miss the point of your statement, just trying to explain, what appeared to me, to be glassadam's train of thought on his reply.

fraddy says:

I am 99% certain MS will say sth like 'we cannot upgrade to WinPhone 9 any devices without an aluminium case with plastic coating' they played their tricks twice (WinMobile 6.5 and WinPhone 7.5/7.8) they will most l8kely do it again,that's why I lefy their platform and intend to stay with an imperfect but easily rootable one. They didn't promise the Apollo upgrade and I didn't promise remaining their loyal customer. I tried, got kicked by them right where my pants meet the chair and got it from Microsoft twice, they thought they were smart forcing me to buy a new Win device but I refused to do what they wanted and got a great Samsung device running Jelly Bean. They remained with their 3% market share...

Codesmith says:

For the record, most developers have known about Apple and Google "overlord" tactics for years. Typically people come out of school loving them, then try and earn a living and realize neither of them have EVER done anything but alienate developers, in an attempt to control. Microsoft has ALWAYS embraced developers. Always. Since 1975. :)

philharmonik says:

Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers!

poddie says:

Exactly what went through my head too.

Codesmith says:

It worked, it worked! :)

AhmedAtef says:

Actually yes, I am a Microsoft Student Partner here in Egypt.
As for the amount of support I get from Microsoft, this will make me never think about doing anything but working on any of their platforms.
Man they give the Student Partners an MSDN Ultimate subscription for free !!!!!!!

kipters says:

Italian Microsoft Student Partner here, I couldn't agree more ;)
(BTW, Ahmed, are you on the worldwide MSP Facebook group?)

Well I think changes the rumours to pretty much confirmed.

DenniSundaY says:

I already thought that the notification center in the picture didn't had the WP8 touch & feel. So I really hope that it is still there in the 8.1 update with good looks and I hope not that this notification center was the only one they ever tested... Fingers crossed!

AlexanderJJJ says:

So GDR3 comes at the end of the year, so that means Blue won't be out til' Next Summer? D: That's to long! :(

Mike_Milacek says:

I'm with you. I hope it doesn't take that long. But Microsoft is not known for being fast. We shell see.

I expect GDR3 by fall.

DenniSundaY says:

When do you expect GDR2? I really hope it has an 'other' storage fix!

GDR2 launches with the Lumia 925...which is like next week. So for rest of the devices, in the coming weeks.

KonaGuy says:

If GDR2 is released on the 925 next week, that means most of us won't get it until fall.  Look how long it took for general users to finally get GDR1.  So you may expect GDR3 by fall, but I'm not expecting it on my 822 until winter at best.  Not saying what year...  I guess it's good to be cautious about doing these roll outs, but it sure gets frustrating waiting to get it when you're hearing about all the juicy goodness others are experiencing.
Regarding 8.1, wonderful to see that they're adding the ability to kill apps from a central point (like tabs in IE), and adding a week view in Calendar.  Hope both features stick!

ryan.kruger says:

Has it been confirmed that we would y receive GDR2, then "Blue" then GDR3? I can't imagine them staggering W8 and WP8 updates too far apart.

AlexanderJJJ says:

GDR2 comes out this month outside of the US, and in July for the United States. The Lumia 925 comes with it, so it'll probably be rolled out for other phones once the 925 is out.

damo579 says:

If anything the Lumia 920 on at&t will get it this month. We have been getting updates before anyone else.

GDR 2 > GDR3 > Windows Phone 8.1 Blue

Bee Mon says:

GDRD2 > R2D2 ? :P

jsnod25 says:

Bear beats battlestar galactica!!!

devize says:

I haven't even received 1314 yet...

fancy0479 says:

Good job, MS! You are teasing us with fixes rather than features in a big update far far away (maybe next year).

Notification center :D, they need to re adjust the volume to something like the iphone with a scroll feature

But i do think this stunt was pulled on purpose for more exposure and talk of Windows Phone

I don't think so. From my interaction with people at MS, they're really kind of pissed and frustrated at it. It's a work in progress, not finalized for public show. 

It's like if I photographed you rolling out of bed and made it your profile pic ;)

twelvetudors says:

Maybe Microsoft should publicly change their profile pic sometime soon then,)

jsnod25 says:

I happen to look my best as I roll out of bed in the morning... Its all down hill from there!

Hooksie says:

Or an artist ahowing their painting when it was only half finished. There are a lot of changes and improvements to WindowsRT, 8 and WindowsPhone coming and I for one am very glad i moved from ipad/iphone to WinRT tablet and WindowsPhone with HTC8X. It's not perfect but it's damned close.

valid point, still its a good thing for us users because now microsoft know what their consumers want to see

It was a cool week and weekend. I remember Sam's post on Nokia's picture with Abe...

ltjordan24 says:

   I like the way Microsoft handled the situation. The only reason I can see them wanting the phone back is beacuse there were some other new features that the user hadn't noticed so there are still some things that we can look forward to when Blue ships at the end of the year.

trwrt says:

They also want to know whose ass to kick for losing/selling it.

clappenings says:

Uh Oh! Watch out....@benthepcguy Ben Rudolph will come and jujitsu you!

bilzkh says:

I just hope we get a notification center...

1Rahtid says:

If Microsoft is sensible enough to change the name of its voice assistant to Cortana, and make use of the same voice and maybe some key phrases, then I wholeheartedly agree with Sam's, "...we call that a headshot." That, if it occurs, could be Microsoft's biggest marketing success for the year.

thirdday2002 says:

While I think there's some validity to what you're saying, I'm not a gamer, and I didn't get the Cortana reference until someone explained it.

sepatown says:

YouTube is your friend for this kind of stuff.

What am I missing? I keep seeing Datasense in the leak articles, yet my 928 already has a datasense app. How is this an added feature?

It is for non-Verizon customers in the US.

Micah Dawson says:

Its exclusively a Verizon thing hence why it is on your 928 so this would bring it to all windows phone.

Rashed Elbaw says:

Is that available on Nokia Lumia 620

Sam Sabri says:

Is what available? Did you read the aritcle? :p

jsnod25 says:

Second time he has posted this, I answered his dumb question on his first post.

jsnod25 says:

Hey Rashed... This isn't 4chan, where your post is put at the front, or can be bumped with a reply... Its in chronological order...

twelvetudors says:

I definitely hope they don't keep the same layout for week view. The Cortana App would be pretty cool, the current voice in TellMe is too robotic.

neo158 says:

I don't know, I like the week view as it brings the calendar in line with the one in Windows 8/RT.

twelvetudors says:

I want a week view, but I'd prefer it to look like the app "Week view" rather than how the screenshot did.

Kudos to MS with how they handled it.  They personally reached out and did the right thing in getting the guy a new 920.  Looks like the original pics are down now, though my guess is that MS just nicely asked him if he'd take them down.  Doesn't seem like WPCentral or others have been handed C&D orders or anything.  Who ever would have thought that is would be Microsoft and not Google or Apple that showed through their actions that they were the best corporate citizen?

Iain_S says:

Nice way MS handled this, gave him a  new phone and gave him the money back he spent on the other device.

spcdog says:

Yeah. Imagine how much bigger of a "thank-you" he would have gotten though, if he approached Microsoft privately, instead of posting it all over the Internet. Microsoft definitely handled this with class, but the ChinaMan guy is pretty dumb -- he walked away from a big bag of money, in exchange for ~30 hours in a very quickly forgotten spotlight.

ngilbert89 says:

We want full backup of app and game data capability and the ability to install apps to sd even the abilty to use usb OTG more than anything.

Chef316 says:

And who is we?

Aryan Angel says:

When are they going to fix the "other" storage thing? Either fix that soon or let us install apps in SD card >:/

raul_junior says:

im pretty sure thats gdr3

WPenvy says:

They're giving him the amount that he paid for PLUS  a new phone?... SAY WHAT?!?!!?!?!?
Good guy Microsoft...

Josh Harman says:

Cortana would be awesome.

travisel says:

So Windows Phone 8.1 "Blue" out in Q4?
GDR2 update Q2?
GDR3 update Q3?
WP8.1 vs iOS7 vs Android 5 this Christmas?
WP8.1 Hardware to use MSM8974 & 2GB RAM makes it faster than Galaxy S4!

hutuka says:

Hahaha s**t, for a moment I thought it was the iPhone 4 fiasco with Gizmodo all over again.

Hah, yeah!
Only instead of getting the police to raid the guy's house and threaten him with legal action Microsoft did the right thing and just politely asked for it back and gave him a new phone in return.
The difference is pretty staggering really.

Skittledude says:

I remember requesting something like this around the time WP8 was released on a Microsoft site; the only difference was I suggested Serina as the voice for the beta and to include Cortana as the final version with Serina being a secondary option.

If this is true, I will go out of my way to use this instead, even if it would be faster to do the task manually, just to hear Cortana's voice. I know iFans who might even switch if this became a reality.

Skittledude says:

The A.I character who appeared in Halo Wars.

Kram Devil says:

I wish they would also have rampant versions. I would love to hear either serina's or cortana's voice in the morning say "Inefficient carbon based lifeform, wake up"

Skittledude says:

Oh man, that would be a treat.

Goodeye says:

Cool to hear they not only reimbursed him they gave him a new 920. An excellent example of taking care of your user base and customer service.

jgservices says:

I hope that 8.1 brings as many few features as Mango did, this included and a lot more. They can't be doing such slow development nowadays. If this doesn't come by fall (which is already too long) I'm going to think of other options. I've been riding this out for so long and I'm tired of watching competitors moving so much faster.

raul_junior says:

ummm how are they moving so much faster, for example ios hasnt added new features since ios6 was announced (really iOS 5 because 6 was a fail) and samsung hasnt updated their phones since december AT ALL and microsoft is releasing 4 updates in the course of the year all with new features (gdr1. gdr2, gdr3, windows phone blue)

jgservices says:

Yet how many popular features are we behind?? Separated volume controls, browser improvements, better multi-tasking resume times? The list goes on. They need to fucking amp up their game to catch up THEN should start implementing new ideas.

sukimtk says:

Cant w8 for the update :)
I dont like the notification tile, but its always welcome to have a choice :)
I like wp8 the way it is now, add more functions and i would love it even more

ceraf says:

After the last paragraph, all I could imagine was Microsoft saying "YOU HAVEN'T SEEN MY FINAL FORM"

giorgio h says:

Cortana vs Siri

lippidp says:

Gleamed vs gleaned

soutarm says:

You beat me to it. Apparently it's very shiny.

paulheu says:

AFAIK 'zSomething' apps are available once a device is developer unlocked and will add diagnostic or testing options for the device. As such this would not be an app for general consumption. It would also mean it's not some beta or test version of a 'to be released' app.

However, if these zApps are referenced somewhere else in the system by another feature (which I would bet they were) it could still mean something.

Last I looked, zApps also include internal "apps" that are referenced by the system and other, end user applications.

nikoduque says:

Nice photoshop, because the pic is of a 928 ;)

Mic98 says:

The pic is from a 928, because WP central took that picture from their lumia 920 article and downloaded it to their 928. I can also take that pic and open it up on my omnia 7. it would look the same..

cannon#WP says:

Seriously, if MS is listening, notification center needs to be in there.

Skittledude says:

It is possible. The article states that the notification centre, as seen in the images, has since been removed. As of now, we don't know how, if at all, Microsoft will integrate a centre which houses all notifications.

Chef316 says:

Two things would be sick!
1. MSFT buys out or partners with Indigo for the new build
2. MSFT changes the assistants voice to Cortona!!!

paulxxwall says:

Was the phone originally stolen if it was not then no would not have givin ut back well maybe for a "price" but if it was stolen then no turn it in I've had stuff stolen from me and it sucks

Rubios says:

Fix other storage, volume profiles and notifications and I'll be an extremely happy customer.

Banstyle says:

LMAO if Microsoft added a Siri UI and called it Cortana they would sell a hundred thousand units to Halo fans. Unfortunately I don't think they are that smart. :)

schlubadub says:

I don't see the point in sorting by 'most used' as my most used apps will usually be pinned. It would be fantastic if they can add 'sort by tag' and allow custom tags aka groups! :)

glassadam says:

I pin used apps mixed with apps for aesthetic purposes (such as apps with nice-looking live tiles), so sorting options for the apps list would be cool for me. More options is always better!

cybermoose89 says:

Bring on the 8.1 ms dudes !!

Squachy says:

They should do this.
If swipe right gives app list, swipe left gets you to your 'me hub'
Me hub could look pretty much the same as it does now, and you can post your updates and whatever to twitter/FB/etc.  But now you scroll down for notifications since it would then be the notification center.
And when you are in the lock screen right swipe is childresn corner or whatever, left swipe is notifications.

glassadam says:

That's not bad. If nothing else, it might get me to actually use the Me hub for something. Bonus if they make it an edge gesture from any screen, not just the home screen.

hysonmb says:

I'm glad MS didn't give the standard "no comment" response.
It's good to have a look into the early build, hopefully all of the new features actually make it to the final bits in one way or another.

dlrohm says:

Why is "data sense available" even a new feature for this next version of the OS?  This was touted as a great new feature when WP8 was demo'd and launched.  No one is calling MS (or BS) on this?
[and yes, I know its mostly carrier dependent, but why is it still being listed as "new" feature?]

Rob van Uden says:

Exactly what I thought... Does anybody know?

ThePKReddy says:

Lulz +1. However a lot of people switched to WP because of its simplicity vs. Android. Adding more elements would complicate the user experience from a design perspective. However, I would like to access the notification center from any screen. I think the charms way of doing it would be perfect.

glassadam says:

Options are not the enemy of a simple, user-friendly experience. If they just keep all the options organized and clear they can avoid a lot of problems.

wayne310 says:

that notification center looks nothing consistent with Metro UI so i doubt it will be like that.
but atleast they are addressing the lack of unified notification and so far, MS/Nokia have delivered updates faster than any platform i have ever been on.
i hope they keep the leash on OEM tight and focus on making it a quality smartphone platform than a quantity platform for those sheeps who jump smartphone bandwagons based on marketing hype with no idea or use for a functional phone.

Mooncow27 says:

The Cortana voice would be awesome. I would have asked MS for a EOS.

astroXP says:

Gawd, how no one thought of Cortana as assitant voice in Windows Phone! This would be E-P-I-C. Games, non-gamers… it wouldn't matter. This indeed would be an awesome headshot.

tj321 says:

and add more accent colours!

alertwolf says:

The thing Microsoft need to fix by the next update is the "other" problem I don't care it's in the form of an app or a major overhaul fixing it altogether. The truth is it's the cancer of the OS, right now it's contained in the eco system no one who doesn't own a windows phone knows about it. I feel this wait and see attitude by Microsoft could be costly mistake. Once it becomes general knowledge that Windows Phone 8 has horrible memory problems it will kill the momentum WP8 is finally getting!

Big Supes says:

I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about.

Big Supes says:

I don't need a notification. Yep, just my opinion. Id like unread toasts to sit up the top out of sight, but bouncing into view much like the lock screen does. This, or log toasts in the Me tile.

fraddy says:

Notification Centre.. What else? Live Wallpapers? 5 years behind Android? I am so happy I recently upgraded my Lumia 800 which was practically abandoned by Microsoft which has a below average non-removable battery and a funny way if connecting with my laptop to a superb phone: Galaxy Note 2!

lubbalots says:

Ativ S has removable battery. Is live wallpapers necessary? Alot of top end Android phones been abandoned by OEMs. Mini and major wp8 updates coming. You could have upgraded to Ativ S or L920. You'll be missing out.

fraddy says:

The live wallpaper bit was very sarcastic, I'm not very fond of using it on a daily basis. But a removable battery is a must for me.

Even if Samsung stopped updating Note 2 I could still root it and update it myself. Not upgrading my Lumia 800 to Apollo was a very ugly trick, it happened to me before with my HTC HD2, why should I give MS a third chance to do the same - they'll probably say WinPhone 8+ devices can't upgrade to WinPhone 9 to force people to buy new hardware.They can do that but I refuse to be subject to that ugly practice.

LUmia 800's battery is kind of a joke, Zune is a joke, lack of support for micro SD cards is a joke... There is a reason for that 3% market share. BTW if Apple remains as stubborn in their insisting that anything over 4 inches is too huge to be an acceptable phone screen they might reach the 3% smartphone market share also. Nokia didn't listen to their customers and it didn't take long till they were struggling to survive. They might really bounce back imho if they introduce the rumoured 6-inch phablet but if they keep on waiting for too long they will keep on struggling. Non-removable batteries and MS' s average only OS don't help them recover fast, do they?

Alphageek_UK says:

Well handled by Microsoft. And Cortana being the voice of my assistant would be awesome!

AskaLangly says:

I get the same 'Not For Resale' every time I turn on my 822. It's on Portico and still says it. I still wonder to this day why it is proto.

FearL0rd says:

I would say give me the new EOS and I return it

Urgh, still no independent volume controls?  Say it isn't so.

nasellok says:

Dont give it back...........sell to a developer who can hack it and get root / unlock bootloader / jailbreak out of it.............i think it was a seed planted by a MS employee, get it to the right person, and lets start the WP8 jailbreak

pein1234 says:

Highlight is Chinaman28....