Microsoft: Windows Phone outselling iPhones in 24 markets

Windows Phone Group

Microsoft has told TechRadar that the company is witnessing some serious growth for its Windows Phone platform. Christoper Flores, director of communications for Microsoft, told the publication that attacks on "both ends" of the smartphone market were well under way (high-end and budget mobile devices) and we can expect to see further aggressive marketing should the deal with Nokia go through.

Flores shared statistics, which shows Windows Phone entering into second place in 14 markets around the world. Not only that, but the platform is also claimed to be outselling Apple's iPhone line-up in 24 markets, putting Windows Phone in the position of "fastest selling smartphone globally." While Flores failed to provide which regions were included in the statistics, he did note they were in emerging markets.

We've actually seen growth in previous reports from the likes of Kantar with Windows Phone surpassing 10 percent across Europe. The platform has also leapfrogged iPhones in Italy, according to the last batch of data we covered. Nokia has been aggressively marketing its low-end hardware, including the Lumia 520. This particular handset has proven to be a success within the ecosystem too.

Microsoft has stated they will provide more information on the statistics in the near future, we'll keep you all posted should we see more details emerge.

Source: TechRadar



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deadwrong03 says:

Windows Phone FTW

Apple's stronghold is in the US.  Windows Phone just can't seem to break through at all here... and is still stuck at less than 4%. I hope Microsoft figures out how to change this soon.

Daylife says:

More marketing, and better deals is the key. Plus the app growth.

Deamion says:

On top of that, Microsoft needs to strike retail product placement deals with large retailers.

The have started already with their embedded MS Stores in Best Buy, and others, but they need to get the mobile carriers to put Windows Phone at the front of the store with large banners, not the back right corner after all the iPhones, Androids, and Black Berry's.

How are people suppose to get to know Windows Phone if they never get that deep into the store?

Kascha K says:

It doesn't even stop there. On a network news channel last night they had a story on about the new Gen large phones and all that got mentioned was the S4, Note 3, and unbelievably, the 5S iPhone. No indication Microsoft even had phones for sale in the category despite the 1520 having a bigger and better screen than any of those mentioned.

It's just gotten dumb at this point that people are this incapable of grasping any ideal not shoveled to them underhand according to what is trendy. Even as in this case, when in danger of looking really uniformed in front of a ton of viewers.

fdruid says:

That's exactly what happens, it follows no logic except of those of marketing and people's perception of a brand. And it's hard to break.

But I think WP will continue growing strong.

nasellok says:

Until they ditch the ATT exclusivity, they are goign to have issues - if they just release (3-4) variants, all the same styling, on each carrier, they would be so in the Money - 1520 phablet, 1020 crazy pureview camera, 920 same as 1020 without the camera bulge, and a 520 budget phone...............thats all they need, why have so many different in between.  they have to be getting killed by their mfr's with all the different varients, and such.  Follow Scumsungs model, release the same phones on all carriers (especially the flagship)

Bartdog says:

@att doesn't help wp at all.  ATT is like "press one to buy an iphone" and when you say I need tech help with my Nokia, they hand you over to a phone number in tampa.  jerks.

Isn't it amazing that Best Buy has an embedded Microsoft Store within its walls, yet you still can't find a single Windows Phone accessory (that wasn't built for android)... I always ask the MS guys that and give them crap, even though I admit that decision is many many steps above them on the ladder.....

nohra says:


This has been a big complaint of mine against Best Buy. Well, and against others as well (Walmart, Target). They sell WP, usually only the 520 but occasionally others, but offer NO ACCESSORIES. Whereas for iPhone and Android it's almost one stop shopping on getting a phone and almost whatever accessories you might want. Even take the phones sold out of equation, and most stores have entire rows devoted to iStuff.

That increases visibility as well, as people who are looking over the accessories would see the words Windows Phone. It gets the brand name in their head at least. Maybe they're planning a respectable push when they release WP9, but they need to start pushing the retailers now.

tyaan says:

Which app are you missing? I am just waiting for GRave Defense HD and the controller for AR.Drone Everything else is here.

TK2011 says:

Give a little time and WP will break through, I think. It's not "stuck", it had to grow quite a bit this year to get that 4.9% now. I really wish MS/Nokia had released a 520 variant for Verizon, Sprint and their MVNOs last year. If they did, we could be looking at 8-10% now.

rodneyej says:

Now, what you said is key for the US... Every major carrier needs a lineup like at&t's.. Every carrier needs a entry level, mid range, high end, and niche WP device.. Now, as big as MS is you'd think they could get their devices on all 5 major carriers.. Maybe the purchase will give MS the ability to do this with the new Lumia devices...

JamesWoods98 says:

I think there is a lot of confusion in the US too with Windows Phone. There are so many different varients for each different carrier and I think consumers can easilly get mixed up with all the numbers! For example, 920 on AT&T, 925 T-Mobile, 928 Verizon, 820 AT&T, 822 Verizon etc... they're all practically the same phone but with different numbers and it's a little silly. They also need to stop making exclusives just for AT&T - from what I've heard they're a terrible carrier and perhaps people don't want to switch to them to get a Windows Phone. I personally live in the UK and here we have the same phone on multiple different carriers which makes a lot of sense and is why I think the market share here and many paces other than the US have much greater market share (double digits). I love Windows Phone, hopfully getting a 1020 soon, but I do hope they make a breakthrough in the US beacuse I've invisted a lot in the platform and got practically my whole family and a lot of friends to make the switch from Lagdroid. :P

doeboiO says:

925 is a different phone entirely, it's an upgrade, not a variant

fdruid says:

It isn't that different, really. that's why it's named with a fraction number of the true models. It has the same basic specs, the only things that change slightly are the body, the screen and the camera.

rodneyej says:

Confusion❔.. LOL❕❕.. Nobody knows what they are yet to be confused❕❕

I think they will when if they bring webkit on this OS! So we get better apps!

InlineV says:

Screw webkit. Developers should be focused on cross platform standards not suckling on Google's nut sack.

neo158 says:

How will that help to bring better apps, developers shouldn't be using a web wrapper when you have Visual Studio and the WP8 SDK available to create native apps.

Yeah, the US bothers me. Flooded with iPhones and Galaxies.

rodneyej says:

That's because Americans are SHEEP❕❕❕

Cellus13 says:

Hey! Hey! I live in America and I have a 925 D:

Cryio says:

Congrats them man :D

I live in the US too and have a 920. :P

rodneyej says:

Yeah, I live in Dallas, Texas,, and I have a 920, and a 1520.... And I still say that Americans are sheep❕... Lol❕

Superzar says:

Canadians too :(

coip says:

The problem is that typical consumers aren't aware of Windows Phone. If you walk into any Best Buy, Wal-Mart, or mall kiosk, there aren't Windows Phones displayed at all. There's an iPhone and a hundred Androids. Until people out and about shopping encounter Windows Phones on a regular basis out in the wild, it won't take off in the U.S.

@coip, this is a very true statement. At my job of over 40 people, it's a sea of iPhones & Samsungs. I'm the only Windows Phone user & everyone is impressed at how solid, smooth & clear my call quality is of my L521. Might convert some isheep by the way I talk about Nokia's superior build quality.

rogerhew says:

Agreed. Same thing at my place of work. They crowd around seeing me with my brand new Lumia 925 and they looked so embarrassing at what they have got.

Deamion says:

I whiped my 620 out at a party, and everyone loved it. They were suprized when they found out it only cost a third what they paid for their iPhone. But when asked what their next phone would be they all said the newest iPhone.

I just don't get it. They would still pay three (or four) times the cost for a phone that does less than my Lumia 620?

Groover1971 says:

That's exactly right! The few Windows Phones that they have at Best Buy are nonfunctional toys. Live Tiles don't translate on a static paper display. A lot of people have heard of the 41 megapixel camera phone but few have actually seen one, much less had a working phone in their hands.

rodneyej says:

⤴⤴⤴ This⤴⤴⤴⤴

The same experience on all screens campaign could be effective.

stui83 says:

MS need to market hard on tv news stations, and talk shows. Americans seem to dig their tv personalities.

Kill carrier exclusives. Easier said than done, but that will definitely help.

Bruno H says:

Actually, Kantars latest numbers shows WP at 4,7% in USA.

Hoekie says:

According to latest Kantar numbers including november 2013, it's at 4.7% in the US.

rodneyej says:

I hate to be a downer, but the iPhone has most likely tiny market share in these regions.. To surpass it isn't really a huge feat, rather WP devices were just more economical.. The growth is big, but the actual number of WP devices in peoples hands worldwide is still relatively small.. This is just the reality... Now, we'll be breaking ground when WP can surpass 10% in mature markets like the US, and China... Those are two of a few markets that really matter if you want to play big❕

cidico says:

I hate when I see this crap. This is a typical american thought: "Only the US has a important market".

Brazil is a big market and we can (and will) spend a lot of money on smartphones. Samsung seems to understand that and they are doing very well here.
Here a lot of people has S3 and S4 because Samsung does not take 6 months to ship here after shipping devices to the US. It's almost in the same month!
This is the biggest mistake Nokia is doing.
US is not the only important market in the world and should not be the first.
All launchs should should be global.

fdruid says:

I agree. The author of the article itself feels there's a need to clarify that it's on "non important markets". I don't think that's the case. Apple wants to sell their phones in as many markets as possible. They do sell based on that bullshit elitist philosophy, but frankly I'm glad no other manufacturer follows it. IMHO it's just pure marketing, their products are not as good as they make people believe. I mean, they are good but they are bought and sold as if they were alien artifacts.

I think WP is playing it right with having devices covering all the price ranges and going for the most devices sold to create a strong base. It's going to be hard. But for example here in Argentina I see more and more people getting a Lumia, and they are really happy with them. That's what it's about. They are great products and they deserve being considered alongside the other options.

rodneyej says:

Whoever said that the US was the only important market❔

blackprince says:

You ever read any tech site or analyst report? There is the US then there is everywhere else to many writers on the internet.

rodneyej says:

No, bone head.. Lol❕.. I'm asking the do who in this discussion said that US was the only important market... Don't open up that can of worms.. That's besides the point...

I don't agree. USA - 500 mil people, China - 1.5 bil so in total arround 2 bil. The world population is over 7 bil people. So 75% of the people live outside those markets! What do you call big?!

TechAbstract says:

Need more WP on US carriers. Lumia 520 should be at least on most carriers in US.

rodneyej says:


Good News for 2014. Once, the Nokia deal is finalized Microsoft just needs to release a "flagship" device on AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile & Verizon all at the 'Same Damn Time'.
Lets go Microsoft.
P.S....the whole Windows Phone Store is due a Major Upgrade.

rodneyej says:


Antluv82 says:

WP that's gud news....IPHONE overrated

dwane18 says:

FUCK YAH!!!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU IPHONE!!!!!!!!!!

badger8080 says:

MS kicks apple anyday

luimende says:

Might be over rated, but it is the bench mark, otherwise why would it be constantly compared to it. Also everything is catered to it, all the apps, cases, extra batteries, etc.

Dusteater says:

Well, Android far outsells iPhone and has for some time. We even see a lot of apps now for Android only, or at least Angroid first. As fare as the accessory market goes, iPhone has a pretty clear advantage because there has until recently only been one model per year. Compare that with Android and their untold variety of models, it is easier to accessory makers to target iPhone than anything else.

This is why I feel WP is a nice ballance, still giving you are a good variety of hardware without going overboard.

edoug says:

I think some of the apps on iphone and android still has a lot to due with the API's available. WinPhone is getting better, but hardware aside there are still more restrictions on WinPhone than on iOS and Android --and before anyone starts, I understand the privacy/safety argument, but it puts us in a tougher spot.

Rem97 says:

This is true. Hopefully with WP8.1 they can address some of these restrictions. This will improve the apps we already have, and open the doorway for new apps. For example: An official Snapchat client. I believe the reason why there is no official app for this is due to an API that isn't currently available. (I personally don't care much about Snapchat, but clearly alot of people do, so it can only benefit the platform to have popular apps such as Snapchat.)

doeboiO says:

Anything about API is a stupid excuse, did king rudy magically create an api to make 6snap work... I don't think so, rudy is one man, snapchat devs are just lazy

Manu Tyagi says:

Yeah even snapchat doesn't care, not fr WP but fr the privacy of its users... ;D:D

Marco Gomes1 says:

Well, I like being in this though spot where I don't have to download and install a security app like I had to when I had an android.

fdruid says:

Well, it's a vicious circle, money calls money. There's nothing inherently better in it that makes it a naturally better product. The market doesn't work that way. What is created and sold is a brand perception. Then, after it's implanted on the people's minds, it just grows by itself: bigger user base, better support, better perception, less likely that people consider other options.

I like this too, but we all know more ppl buy less expensive phones than pricey ones. nl 520? either way, great news!

RyanAMG says:

Quantum tao needs to eat his WP...

TJWINS says:

Why so many yellow phones in the banner pic? Lol

SwimSwim says:

Too show off Nokia's unique color selection? (Well, before the iPhone 5C and Moto X, anyways...)

Keep the good times rolling.

WilsonBlaze says:

GREAT news, but no need to bash iPhone, it is actually the trailblazer that started this True smartphone trend.
BTW, I am a windows phone guy(L920 @ the moment). I look forward to the successor of the 1020 or 1520 around upgrade time

Absolutely true.

lippidp says:

And I hate them for it. WM was way better for business. Smartphones today are toys by comparison to what WM would have been by now.

MadSci2 says:

It grieves me to hear people claim the iPhone started Smatphones. Its just so far from the truth. I was using WinMo in 2003, that's over a decade ago and almost 5 years before the iPhone came out, and it did literally everything that the iPhone could do long before it was introduced. And before WinMo there wee PocketPC phones and Nokia's smartphones and so on and so forth.
Lets not perpetuate Job's reality distortion field now that he no longer emanates it. Apple is a technology recycler that out markets highly polished versions of others inventions as their own. They don't need anybody's help doing it here.

Marco Gomes1 says:

The iPhone IS the phone that kick started this whole smartphone mania, YES. It wasn't the first mobile phone but there's no doubt that the iPhone is the reason why current smartphones are so good and sought.

fdruid says:

Totally agree. Apple is built on marketing. The ideas they sell are hardly new, they are repackaged and polished at best. Actually that's what they sell: polish.

Live2Deliver says:

Apple did not start smartphone. iPhone when it started was a stupid idea revolved from their then iPod Touch (with phone).

k0de says:

For years Apple took their best Punch.
But Microsoft is still standing. It is interesting too watch if Apple can withstand Microsoft rounds of assaults. Apple is a trend && Microsoft is research. Way to go Microsoft.

Church Punk says:

True, but MS is just throwing jabs at most right now... Think apple will survive this. Still, im glad to see MS put a good fight here. Is only the first few rounds so we will have to see in future years who really the champ is. (and i hope is a k.o. from MS x)

Jnero20 says:

Good to hear! Is there a true successor to the 920 slated for anytime soon?

MadSci2 says:

Hmmm. I think that's what my 1020 is.

rogerhew says:

Nokia Lumia 929 perhaps?

rayd1994 says:

But that's a Verizon exclusive isn't it?

silverbladex says:

I wish I could see the look on Tim Cook's face to learn of this.

blackhawk556 says:

I bet iPhone still destroys WP in the money making markets.

Tips_y says:

Android has already destroyed them in market share. If WP also destroys them in market share, I bet their money making markets will eventually dry up and die because they will become irrelevant.

WilsonBlaze says:

Not irrelevant by any means, apple doesn't really care about marker share, they are about the Margin, and there will Always be apple fan boys and girls to support the cause if for no other reason than status

Tips_y says:

BB also had countless die-hard fans but those slowly jumped shipped because BB became irrelevant. Apple willl eventually become a small niche market if they don't shape up. Apple is a cult, and even the most in-grained cult dies if it becomes irrelevant.

doeboiO says:

Nokia, moto, siemens, bb have all shown that no company is too big for failure

rculver9056 says:

The sooner the better lol

neo158 says:

imore is over on the left at the top of this page, do you want me to tell them I found you or can you make your way back there yourself?

AznRaven says:

Love my l1020... Also... So far, the windows phone marketplace is the only appstore I've ever made purchases for apps... Never purchased anything on the apple appstore or google play store... Really dig and appreciate the work of the WP developers...

Yes the apps are great. There are some real quality apps only found on wp, my favourite is neurosequencer pro and the grantophone.

Would have never heard of these apps if you didn't mention, thanks, dl now

About damn time.

Can't wait to see a day when 60% of people dont have iPhones. "omg I want the new iPhone so bad!!" me: "why?". "I dont know..." lmao ughhhh

SwimSwim says:

My life exactly... My friend today somehow had his iPhone 5S stolen (that's not the funny part, I personally feel for him on that one. I hate jackasses who feel the need to steal from others).

The funny part was how he was droning on and on about how he'd have to go back to his "crappy" old iPhone 5 and how'd he'd have to wait for it to restore from an iCloud backup. My reaction, "So you're lamenting over the fact that you'll have to now take an extra two seconds to use your PIN code to unlock your phone, and wait 30 minutes for your iCloud backup?"

Again, I feel for him and hope he gets his phone back from the sick bastard that stole it, but geeze, #FirstWorldProblems

(As an aside, when will Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 get FULL backup and restore capabilities on par with iOS via SkyDrive? I honestly have more SkyDrive storage space than I know what to do with, could I please save my app settings and game progress on it?)

Was recently in Italy, and I can tell you, advertisements for the Lumia 520 were everywhere! Some for 1020, also.

blackhawk556 says:

But how many phones did you see in someone's hand though? You could see ads everywhere but if people are buying the product, it doesn't matter. I Can't to see where WP will be at one year from now. :-)

hwangeruk says:

Who are you blackhawk? Just here to cause trouble? In Italy WP is bigger than iPhone, its a big deal its why they are getting Sky Go first. Now do us a favour and stop antagonising the natives.

blackhawk556 says:

How am I causing trouble? I was really wanting to know how many he saw on the street. I haven't been there so I wouldn't know.

... so many Lumia here in Italy !

blackhawk556 says:

I'm the ghost in you're house, calling your name. ;)

Tips_y says:

Your response to  AlabamaFanRTR is off-mark. He said Italy. If you've been to Italy lately, you'd see that Lumias are quite common there. So based on your comment, you obviously have not been there yet.

Yousef Kawmi says:

i live in Austria and i've never saw any ad about WP 
but i can see Windows phones all the time some are Lumias and some are HTC no other brands

I did make a point to see what phones people had in their hands, partly in part because I'm holding some NOK shares :). Strange to find out that most had lower end phones, maybe samsung, the phones where the keyboard is on the bottom, non touch screen. I did see more iPhones than Nokia, but not by much. But then again, my eyes were mainly fixed on the awesomeness that is Italy.

andrewb65 says:

Plenty of those iPhones you saw may have been Samsung models - the ones which looked almost exactly like the iPhone 4 / 4s were big sellers everywhere. It's no wonder Apple got so shirty about it!

Marco Gomes1 says:

And now your just being plain idiotic. WP is doing very well in Europe. I see nokias a lot in Italy, Spain, UK, France and Portugal, and the sales figures are there for everyone to see.

Arsenic17 says:

Last time I checked the separate divisions of Microsoft do not count as markets.

tribexx says:

If there was a 528 on VZW, the would have two sales...

DJCBS says:

It is quite normal. In European countries, for example, people normally buy the phones on a PAYG basis. The iPhone is an extremely overpriced phone (699€ for the 16gb) while Nokia has half a dozen good phones for 1/5 of the price (100€ the 520, 200€ the 620, 300€ the 920).
But there's ZERO merit from the OS there. As always, it's the power of the Nokia brand that's selling the phones, not the OS (just like it's "Apple" and "iPhone" that sells, not iOS7)

arunlobo says:

Typical old school nokia fanboy comment. If Nokia was the only reason people bought phones, why did people switch to android from symbian? By your logic Symbian should have never lost market share. Truth is people go for brand AND OS, btw the brand here is lumia.

Marco Gomes1 says:

There's a reason why 90% of windows phones are nokias. I would have never tried WP if it wasn't for Nokia. Besides, people left nokias for android, like I did, because of the apps and the larger choice of phones.

... so many Lumia here in Italy !

erzhik says:

Lets slow down a little. Which markets? Majority of markets don't sell iPhones officially. Are they counting official sales or all sales, including non-official?

Tips_y says:

Italy is specifically mentioned in the article, and iPhones are sold officially in Italy.

DJCBS says:

You mean "don't sell through Apple Stores" I guess? That can be true. However, many retailers sells iPhones, apart from the carriers, of course. And Apple's online store is available even in countries without Apple Stores.

Manu Tyagi says:

Bing the list MS has released it..

theefman says:

Microsoft should take a look at CES and see how all their partners are innovating with android and some like Samsung didn't even announce a single windows tablet. They are in big trouble and all they do is trot out meaningless statements like this.

WilsonBlaze says:

No one cares about Samsung but you in the windows community

No one cares?  If you ignore the entire Ativ brand sure, no ones cares.  

Tips_y says:

They are in trouble only in your own head. All figures coming from reputable firms whose business it is to track these things do not agree with your delusions.

RodimusMajor says:

History shall bear us out! Apple's domination can only last so much longer.

PolishHitta says:

Well in reality all Apple is, is just a half eaten fresh produce icon that can be found in your local supermarket.

Cellus13 says:

Are these big markets or small markets? I'm impressed too but I'm trying not to get my hopes up again.

leo74 says:

I hope this trend continues. What needs to happen to gain more ground in the US is to lose AT&T as a premium carrier or kick their asses if it comes to availability of phones and especially updates. All of my friends love my Lumia phones, but they all also witnessed the waiting games for upgrades and the debacle at the L920 and 1520 launch where preorders didn't even get shipped until days after you could just pick up the phones in stores. Logistics in all those areas need to improve drastically to attract more users, but unfortuntely is seems that this is a game of chicken or egg.

pierrerv says:

Great news. Can't wait till we cross 10% market shares here in the U.S.

Guytronic says:

Good to see WP gaining in any market.

A neighbor of mine said this to me recently:

Windows phone?...what's that? I thought any smartphone works with Apple.

Also many in my family refer to tablets as "iPads" and any smartphone as an "iPhone"

Just a small example of what Microsoft would have to overcome.

The iDevice reference seems to be tatooed on the brains of countless humans.


Tips_y says:

That will slowly change if they continue to lose market share. They've already lost market share to Android big time. If the same thing happens with WP, they will also lose mind share and become irrelevant.

TK2011 says:

Yeah. I saw one guy here who said that his old neighbor couple asked him come over to help with their new iphones but when he went there, they were actually Windows Phones!

chmun77 says:

Hope this will keep up in 2014. If rumors are true, once iPhone released bigger screens devices, things may be back to square one again for Windows Phones. We shall see.

Tips_y says:

Yes, we shall see because quite the opposite could happen: Apple could be seen not anymore as leader/innovator but as imitator trying to catch up. If the latter happens, then Apple will slowly wither and die, becoming a small niche market.

MethodGT says:

We all know that everyone will say, "Apple just held out until it could be done right. Apple's so innovative!"

chmun77 says:

No really. Apple is usually the trends starter. If I'm not mistaken, iPhone was the first touch based smart phone. If not, it was the first most welcome touch based smart phone. Recently there were the finger print security, and the 64bits processor trends. It may have seen not to be a innovator anymore, but due to its mass markets, it is still the king of trends.

On the other hand, Windows Phone has been busying trying to catch up with its updates. Until now, then we have the screen lock rotation, as well as the custom text tones. 1520 is the only first 1080p phone running snapdragon 800 till date. Frankly speaking, I feel WP more like the catching up party, rather than Apple.

Hoekie says:

Frankly speaking if you follow tech Apple is the catching up party since 2 years. 64 bit  and fingerprint is no one else using because no one really cares and never started any trend.

Windows Phone and Android are the trend starters. Bigger screens, higher res screens, NFC, Double tab to unlock/glance enbled screens, gove sensitive screens, Multicolor cases, Wireless charging and so on and so on.

digiacomo says:

One thing that needs to happen is for these "exclusives" to go away. Customers should never be forced to choose between the phone they want and the carrier they want. Part of the reason Android grew so quickly is because it was available through carriers other than AT&T and at the time, it was ge only viable alternative for people who wanted a touchscreen smartphone. Nokia can't afford to make the mistakes Blackberry made, locking flagship phones to carriers for longer than 3 to 6 months. The worst possible strategy is to give a customer who is interested in your product a reason to look at the competitors because they don't want to switch carriers. Something else that would help is matching Apple's approach to distributing updates directly, so customers don't feel they are at the carrier's mercy for updates if they buy anything but an iPhone.

saulgould13 says:

Why all the yellow phones huh?.. Racists .. ;)

cesar ruiz1 says:

That HTC 8x was there cause they used the 1520 to take the picture. ( joking, it just looks so weird with so many lumias)

London Jr says:

I see T-Mobile's Lumia 512 everywhere now...

Ryanz says:

I bought the 520 a few months ago, mainly because of price. I didn't actually want a Windows phone but the Android ones that were priced the same were crap. For the price ($130) nothing could top it for performance. I really only use it as a 'phone' now however (don't use apps on it anymore). 

Although it does a good enough job, I wouldn't buy it again. I like using the iPhone (but would never spend $600+ on a phone). Love Android and may go with a Nexus 5 or Moto X, but what I'm holding out for is Firefox or Jolla to come over here.

Winnabe says:

You might like to give a rethink after WP8.1 is out this summer.

Dunno. Jolla looks pretty sweet to me. Certainly helps that their background was from pre-WP Nokia.

Ryanz says:

I'll still have my 520 then, mainly because I don't use a phone enough to justify replacing my 520 -- which works well for my needs right now.

ejlee072006 says:

This was expected... I wonder what company is going to die after blackberry..

dannyd86 says:

I don't get it. Windows phone is out selling iPhone in emerging markets, isn't that because apple doesn't sell in emerging markets and has no handsets in that price range.

How can you outsell somebody in a market they're not even in lol. What a retarded statement

neo158 says:

So Europe is an emerging market?

MadSci2 says:

+1020 Moving to a new phone us still a huge Painintheass. MS should have dealt with this a while ago. Mind you, SkyDrive alone may not do it with 32 & 64 Gb of data to back up.

sip1995 says:


jgraves1107 says:

Yep sell them unlocked.

I can see many lumias here in India...and everyone just hate apple and even android fans are switching to Sony from Samsung

I can see many Lumia here in India ... And you know what? Most of them brought wp because they believe in Nokia.

chmun77 says:

Or because the phones are cheapest perhaps? Given the cash, I doubt they will be interested in Nokia or Windows Phones.

mrskycar says:

I believe in part it does have to do with the brand recognition of both Microsoft and Nokia. Having cheap devices is just the trigger.

Here in India Nokia has ruled for more than 10years...and you will not believe many people call phones a piece of shit until its Nokia..

Aryan Angel says:

Android still master race.

neo158 says:

Shall I tell Android Central you've escaped again!!

Aryan Angel says:

Im not even on android central, never was. Android still is master race though.

rogerhew says:

America is unique. It always does thing opposite. They drive left hand and they measure in....., you name it. No offence just my opinion.

Luminatic says:

Um, last time I've been to the U. S., they drove on the right side of the road, just like it is done in most countries with a few exceptions.

1berto says:

In Portugal, before Christmas Nokia wasn't doing a lot to sell here.

The prices were very high, the L520 for 170€ blocked to Vodafone, and the L920 for 400€, thank god in Christmas all changed.

The price of the L520 is now 130€ (or 90€ for old clients) and it's sold out on the main carrier of Portugal. The L820 also had a special promotion of 140€ for Vodafone clients, and was sold out on the same day. The L920 is now 300€. Unfortunately the L925 and L1020 are still very expensive.

But now I start to see some people with Lumias, and most of then are very happy.


oscargodson says:

Curious if WPC's site growth is growing at a similar rate. In other words, based in numbers from various sources can you make a correlation between site growth to new WP8 users.

a7medo778 says:

i am from one of those countries, kuwait

and its a total lie :P


iphone is dominating here

They didn't mention Kuwait or any country...

a7medo778 says:

they did over at neogen 

tanveer 786 says:

Wp still needs some missing features like file manager etc.

swizzlerz says:

I have so many files that need to be managed. Its SkyDrive download it.

Luminatic says:

Sadly, the iPhone is still dominating in Switzerland. Too many people having more money than know how still think iPhone = smartphone. The trend is especially strong with teenagers.... Well, it's an age thing, I guess, the tendency to just have the same things and dress the same as your peers.


Good going Microsoft..Keep on rolling !! Its great news for all WP users.

By adding certain features to the OS like a File Manager, access to video files etc, I'm sure it will outbeat the iPhones in almost all countries. :)

Thats one good news. :D

I hope microsoft opens up the os further, stuff like file manager and further customization of tile screen. How about customized keyboards like swype or swift key. Utilities like shuffled ringtone built in. And more devices any day, please get more device makers and support for 960*540 resolution for great mid range devices

Duduosf says:

I read somewhere yesterday that Microsoft is planning to create a 3D (cube like) version of the tiles to increase customisation. It's still a rumour, nevertheless.

swizzlerz says:

It starts somewhere USA is little slow with Dom things. Jus like Canada is so black berry friendly.

benrp says:

How does that make Windows Phone the fastest selling smartphone globably? this cant be true surely.

nokiauser911 says:

Now for god sake give us basic features which WP lack!

Loving the token HTC there like the blue sheep of the family.

Duduosf says:

I don't think that WP has outsold iOS here in Brazil (emerging market) yet. Though I have seen several 520s and 620s out here, which is good =)

WP_ZTE 78 says:

Lol we celebrate good sales in Nigeria and Kenya !? 10% is no good . Most of the fones ar 520 , those who bought the phone will regret because of the 512 ram limitation  , those folks will have the fate of those who bought WP 7.5.

Oli B says:

If Microsoft wants to penetrate the US market they need to sell the Nokia Lumia 520 and 521 dirt cheap or give them out free with Xbox one purchases etc be create bundle it or throw it in free with Microsoft purchases. It will be extremely difficult for average smart phone user who has invested much of there apps music photos to switch over that's why Microsoft needs to introduce them more to the operating system and take a loss with the hardware. In the long run you will have those who appreciate and are stuck in your ecosystem. Microsoft is also to slow to bring out new gear or apps, for some reason every company that makes wireless security cameras or home automation etc for some reason its always a google or iPhone compatible. On Gizmodo Engadget or Cnet its always discounted free Google or Iphone apps never windows. Also when I left ATT to go to T Mobile the only windows phone was the 928 every phone from Lg to Samsung to Sony ran google what gives. That's the reason I left T mobile from the start. I feel like if I want a high end phone or latest I'm forced to buy google. Only One phone the Nokia Lumia 928 is what they had in stock. Then I thought about the HTC they said they no longer had it in stock and they stopped making it. Microsoft you guys need to get your act together. Honestly the way you go about doing things is horrible and not consumer friendly. You can do a lot better. You should have multiple high end beautifully designed phones on all carriers. If I could call the shots I destroy a lot of these companies. I'm a consumer and I know exactly what your doing wrong. You guys that produce the stuff dont walk my walk.

Oli B says:

As far as penetrating The US and Asian Markets

I grabbed three L1020s during the Microsoft 12 Days of Deals and gave them to my wife and in-laws for Christmas. They encounter more non-tech heads than I ever will and I've overheard quite a few people (on different occassions) tell them "oh, you got the Lumia camera phone?! Nice!" My wife has told me that she's gotten comments on it numeous times. The other night at a New Years party, I offered to take a picture of a family by a waterfall. I took a pic with their iPhone, Galaxy 4 and my 1020. They deleted their own pix (Galaxy pic was too grainy and dark, the iphone pic was either too overexposed with the flash or just completely black after multiple tries) and asked me to txt my pic to them (I tried to use "Tap+Send" but the iPhone doesn't have that ability yet and the Galaxy owner was clueless on how to set it up on his phone lol). There are times it's nice being an ambassador...

Oli B says:

Also Carriers like Att and tmobile for some reason the employees are aggressively pushing iPhones and Samsung. I have to tell them they don't know what there talking about I want a windows phone. If I wasn't knowledgeable or exposed to the operating systems and the phones I would walk out with an iPhone or galaxy which was what most of the customers were walking or purchasing because that's what was being shoved down there throats. With apple I have had so many problems with my password for signing in ordering stuff losing my password for good unable just crazy frustrating not consumer friendly. In the beginning couldn't download a free app with out a credit card it was very unfriendly to consumer the list goes on. I have a bunch of stuff I purchased and I'm locked out of my account can't get back in. IPhone operating system sucks all it has is its looks. The iPhone 4 was a masterpiece esthetically but now the iPhone 5s is starting to look boring and old. What they should of done is there iPod designs they should of gave they the capability to make phone calls and I've been saying this the iPod touch and latest ipods. They would in fact be the iPhone 5c etc etc.

AndrewL920 says:

This is a good news for us Windows Phone Users. Keep up the good work Microsoft and Nokia! I wish the next Black Update GDR3 will fix the yellowish photo.

Vertego says:

While it is good to see WP increasing their market share, it is well established that most markets will benefit from 3-4 competing alternatives. There is room for WP and iPhone and Android. Its just the market share that needs redistributing. A single dominating platform is not particularly beneficial to anyone.

Also, while the US might consider themselves to be the only market of any importance statistically they are wrong.

The European market is twice as large (or marginally less if Europe is regarded as EU only, excluding the 'minor' non-EU nations). The US represents a significant 5% approx. of the world population, so needs to open their eyes and accept that the world does exist outside of the 50 states.

That WP market share is increasing outside the US is a positive sign. One day, maybe, the US will do likewise. It will be good if they did.

rain620 says:

why are you dumping so many phones on the ground tbh

SoullessOnyx says:

All Windows Phone needs is more Apps and it WILL take over the Mobile Phone market.

3rase says:

Great! Now continue grow. I am not MISSING any apps. I just want more good apps which I didn't knew I needed. Over and out.

ayejay0601 says:

Microsoft has shared the full list. The 24 markets in which IDC says Windows Phone outshipped iPhone are as follows: Chile, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Egypt, Ecuador, Finland, Greece, Hungary, India, Italy, Kenya, Kuwait, Malaysia, Mexico, Nigeria, Pakistan, Peru, Poland, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Thailand, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, and Vietnam.

Dafter says:

iPhone snobs will get a heart attack when they see this :D

exkerZ says:

Not to be a offensive, but apple fanboys are worse than Nokia fanboys, or even googlians. I'll admit, iPhones have proved to be more fluid for me, but that's because you cannot do anything with them! No risks!!


Lol at googlians.