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Microsoft wins $14 million in patent trial against Motorola

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This isn’t Android Central, so any time we write about Motorola they seem to be duking it out with Microsoft. It looks like we’ll be hearing less of them going forward. Mostly because Microsoft just won the second of two trials against Motorola. Details after the break.

So what did the jury in a federal court in Seattle decide? They decided that Motorola broke agreements to license certain patents at fair and reasonable rates with standard-setting bodies. For doing that, the jury awarded Microsoft $14 million dollars in damages. However, this is only half of what Microsoft wanted from Motorola. That 14 million number represents $11 million Microsoft spent building a factory in Germany to get around an import ban on Xbox 360’s and $3 million in legal fees (should have been a lawyer).

Motorola is expected to appeal this decision. Even though Google bought Motorola after these court battles with Microsoft started, many see this as a proxy fight between Google and Microsoft. Many people also suspect that Google bought Motorola for valuable patents. Not exactly working out how they hoped.

Source: Reuters

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rockstarzzz says:

After the break...... Saaaaaam!

$14 million is better than nothing. MSFT for the Win!

Quin 2013 says:

Woot!

So they basically got a plant for free!

duk3togo says:

Practically but now they have an overhead since they have to employ people to run it. They should have gotten some money for that as well lol...

npoe says:

They can include the plant in the Business Continuity Plan... in case of a flood, earthquake, etc.

And say it was a redwood

Eas195 says:

Win for Windows!

hopmedic says:

Yeah... Give us $1M. Now come back to the table and give us REASONABLE terms under which to build a YouTube client.

Tips_y says:

And so much for the Motorola patents that Google paid $12.5B for.

Google may try to buy blackberry now

icyrock1 says:

Was it million or billion? I've seen different sites say different things. 

Aaron M says:

It's even funnier when you compare the 14 million they just won, to the 1.8 million a year that Google/Moto were awarded after seeking more than 4 billion a year.  So basically, Google paid 12 billion for Moto's patent portfolio to attack MS, and all they have to show for it is MS getting almost an entire decade of free licensing from them.  This doesn't take into account the eventual license that Google will have to take from MS in order to keep selling Moto phones.  And to think, there are some android fans laughing at MS for buying Nokia for 7 billion.

sumton says:

excellent news google must be raging now

Quin 2013 says:

More like plotting

DennisvdG says:

Oh no which wp app are they gonna break now! :(

Fade_z says:

They don't have any good ones anyway, google sucks

Google Search lol

DennisvdG says:

Really google is just like that big hypocritical a$$hole with a bad temper in your class...

Josh Harman says:

I'm just misunderstood.

DennisvdG says:

Lol I wish google would come out and say this and become friends with ms :/

LMZR says:

Just wait the next YouTube app update will work for an hour, then it requires you to put your credit card and pay full for a new Nexus 7.

TreizFaction says:

Good news after good news is good!!! Now hurry up and release the 1520 so that all this damn money that's bothering me will go away!!!

How about the 1028?? If there will ever be one.

nizzon says:

I feel so neglected with all these models being so huge. Why are there no new premium phones with sizes like the 720?
I havent had any real cravings for a phone since the Lumia 800 was announced. My 920 is a bit too big. :(

silverbladex says:

I'm sure there will. Nokia had to stay relevant by coming out with a phablet like everyone else but Nokia I'm sure has others they will announce.

chrispytoast says:

+1 This^^^ would buy the Verizon 1028 in a heartbeat

carlosrdd says:

In unrelated but disturbing news I read that the iPhone alone is worth more than all of Microsoft...

Josh Harman says:

Either you're dyslexic or you should stop reading that source.

baron1996 says:

What about the xbox i love it and consider it much higher than an iphone

Bailey199719 says:

Was worth more isn't now. Apple has slowly but surely been losing customers and profits.

Even if this is the current 'real' estimate, it is about as informative in the long term scope of Apple and Microsoft as a sneeze.
 
In the 1980s Apple was a billion dollar company that had the home PC market and schools saturated.  As Apple moved on to the Mac they hit another spike.   This is what Apple does well, they hit a spike with a product, then level off for a few years and plung off off a cliff.
 
The current Apple iPhone/iPad/iTunes business modle is just a fragile for long term revenue.  Apple would have to invent a new type of iPod/iPhone type device every 3-4 years to sustain what they currently have.
 
Look at the iPod, it is already a dead technology and is plunging over the cliff.
 
(After each of Apple's failings to maintain long term revenue, it was Microsoft that picked up the pieces, quite literally twice, giving Apple money to stay in business.)
 
 

nbolmer says:

Apple has never had even a basic plurality, much less majority of the home market

eyesoreM says:

I think you meant to say 'cost more than MS' ;-)

Interestingly, Apple makes more reveneu with iPhone alone than whole of Microsoft, but Nokia (now part of MS) makes more mobile phones than Apple. We are living interesting times, yet again.
Now Microsoft, get your thumb out and go after Samsung with Nokia!

neo158 says:

Why go after Samsung, they already pay license fees for Android and make Windows Phones. It would be a stupid move IMHO as Samsung haven't done anything wrong.

tgr42 says:

Because Samsung is the leader in market share.  If MS doesn't get off their butts and make WP more competitive with Android (and iOS), they might as well just throw in the towel.

Fade_z says:

Then attack android, no use attacking the company that also supports your platform [aka why attack an OEM? get to the roots of the problem]

deloa84 says:

Well Microsoft 1, Motorola 0. Microsoft just seems unstoppable lately...

blackhawk556 says:

More like 2-0, isn't it?

Tips_y says:

Correct. This is the 2nd of two cases. MSFT also won the first case where Motorola (Google) wanted to charge MSFT $4B for some video and wifi patents used in Xbox. The court brought that amount way, way down and much, much closer to the amount MSFT wanted to pay.

sip1995 says:

That's why we don't have YouTube.

12Danny123 says:

Well MS is going to court about YouTube and its obvious that ms will win

blackhawk556 says:

Are they really going to court over YouTube? Source please.

12Danny123 says:

Microsoft has really started getting more and more aggressive at the competition. I remember when it almost killed apple

Kram Devil says:

Then bailed them out

aafa says:

i prefer MS to kill them in the phone market...not legal/patent issues.

rikycaldeira says:

Just 7.186B to go to recover the nokia investment :D

blackhawk556 says:

Remember MS makes millions a year from android sales.

Quin 2013 says:

Do the math again. If Ms just won a 12B case, and they spent 8B, how many billions are left? LMFAO!!!

rikycaldeira says:

@Quin spent 7.2B on Nokia,won 0.014B from Motorola, I think I got the correct math :(
@blackhawk true, this will pay itself in a few months on google's account

Quin 2013 says:

Lmao, so you did. I so very much misread that.

funkyGeneral says:

I did the same thing at first.

Remco de Wit says:

They moved from germany to the netherlands to get around the import ban.
 

Esseret says:

There's still time to get that law degree Sam :)

Kram Devil says:

This is our house.
This is our rules.
And we can't stop.
And we wont stop.

Robborboy says:

Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope Nope

WPFanboy says:

we run things things dont run we
so dont take nothing from nobody, yeah yeah! 

WPLowdown says:

A key piece in this version of the story is missing:
"More particularly, Microsoft has been locked in a battle with Google to ensure that handset makers using Google's free Android phone operating system pay Microsoft a license fee. Most large handset makers, such as Samsung, LG and HTC, have agreed to pay Microsoft a royalty on Android handsets that Microsoft believes may infringe on its patents. Motorola, which was bought by Google last year for $12.5 billion, partly because of its trove of patents, is the last big holdout."
In essence, the Google-Android maker's payment of license fees helps fund Microsoft's Windows Phone development.  Anyone saying MS is toast in the phone game, especially after the Nokia Mobile division purchase, needs a serious reality check.

Mike Dimmick says:

Patents do ultimately expire. US patents applied for before 8 June 1995 expire after 20 years from filing, while after that date they run for 17 years after being issued, or 20 years from the first application that ultimately led to this patent being issued.
 
Some of the patents Microsoft are enforcing against Android came out of the Windows 95 Common Controls user interface components. For example, one of the patents listed in the Barnes & Noble Nook case - US 5889522 "System provided child window controls" - was for the tab control, as used in Windows Explorer's Properties pages. But the priority date for that is 13 December 1994 and so will expire on 13 December 2014.
 
One reason for Microsoft's purchase is to get hold of newer patents from Nokia that they can use against Android manufacturers. Sure, they want to win in the marketplace with their own product, but if they can't manage that, they may as well profit from others' success too.

$3 million?
That must've been some lawyer!

jsnod25 says:

Many lawyers from an entire firm I'm sure.

RyanAMG says:

They probably only have one client.

hary10000 says:

Release the utube app already :(
Both companies gave just silenced themselves now!!

neo158 says:

So release a non functioning Youtube app, that's clever. You do realise the issue is at Googles end, don't you?

Jazmac says:

Love the Perry Mason graphic Sam. All that's missing is him turning around and giving you that classic Perry Mason stare. lol.

someoneinwa says:

Let me second that. Great graphic. And at least two readers recognized the source.

DJCBS says:

Google bought Motorola for the patents...didn't worked that well...perhaps they can try moving on Nokia? At this stage, all they need to do is a public offer of acquisition. That would either get them Nokia or force Microsoft to raise the ridiculously low price they are offering for it.

Ticomfreak says:

Suck it Scroogorolla.

minhin says:

Poor Motorola, standing between google and microsoft. I wonder why did Google not doing anything? I mean after all it's their company. If I were Motorola guy, I'll say "I am with you google, here's the patent, go at them".  But instead Google just chicken out hiding in the corner letting Motorola fight.  Shame on Google

Chef316 says:

I'd like to make a comment that's not so much related to the article....Nice choice for a headline photo @Sam Sabri! Haha