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Nokia Lumia 1520 render leaked, showing off huge display

Nokia Lumia 1520

The popular Twitter profile Evleaks has released a full render of the Lumia 1520, or "Bandit." Previously publishing a screenshot, showing how the new Start screen will be configured on a 1080p display, we can now spot that very same screen capture in the render above. There's not a lot new in the image, except for the rear of the handset where there's no 41MP hump.

Rum: 8

We'd always recommend to take this with a pinch of salt, but the Twitter account has been fairly accurate with leaks in the past and we can't see why the above render couldn't be the Lumia 1520. Just a quick recap on how this Lumia is going to be beastly, we're looking at a rumoured 170mm by 88.9mm device, with of course the 6-inch display.

We'll keep our eyes glued to the feeds and sources for more details, but it's certainly a Windows Phone we're excited to see hit the shelves.

Source: Evleaks (Twitter)




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Looks like the 925 a bit.

RobbCab says:

You mean 820.
Seroiusly, we're all right. 925 camera bump with 920 construction & 820 lines.

kasitechead says:

720 main body, 925 hump, 920 buttons, 625 in peripheral placement

This better has Curved Glass. And Puremotion.

Curved glass makes it more fragile

The 920 has curved glass and its anything but fragile.

Drop it on the corner and then tell me that. Otherwise it's durable but the curved glass busts when dropped on the edge more than straight

thecanuckguy says:

Dropped mine many many times with no case... No crack or nothing.  Maybe I am lucky... is this what happened to your 920.

JoneKone says:

I accidentally threw mine smack right into the wall when I tried to catch it as I dropped it. It bounced of the wall hit the floor and stayed there spinning. I was certain I would have a dead phone or atleast split/scratched up screen. Only visible mark left on the phone is a small indentation in the upper left corner.
Two weeks later it fell out of my pocket again and got slammed between the car door as i slammed it shut. Two small scratches for that... I´m probably lucky, but It sure also has to do something with build quality. 

Idan Cohen says:

Uhm. no. you are incorrect. In order to make the glass curved, it has to have more thickness to the glass. therefore it makes it more durable.

It makes it fragile on the edges not the middle. Test this by dropping a 920 on the corner and watch your phone screen fall out.

Dude the L920 is arguably the toughest phone on the market. And it has curved glass. That alone makes your theory is bullocks.

Dude go look at all of the cracked screen threads, the majority dropped it on its corner and bust the screen. I'm not trying to shit on your parade but there is a flaw in curved glass and plenty of people that shattered their screens proved it's weakness is edge impact which is one of the more frequent ones when dropping your phone.

Drugar says:

I have accidentally dropped my 920 a handful of times onto either concret or steel plating and each time it was a corner drop with no damage to the screen at all. The corners were all squashed and jacked up, but no problem with the screen. I recently replaced the shell going from red to yellow because the original red shell was so messed up and looked fugly. 

He's talking about the edge of the GLASS, not the phone. I'd chalk it up to bad luck, but I dropped my 920 on concrete from about maybe 1.5ft(lap height when sitting) and the edge of GLASS made first contact and I have a cracked screen. Dropped from higher many other times and casing made the contact, no big deal. Everything has an achilles' heel somewhere, and for 920 I think it's the edge of GLASS. (notice how I cap GLASS everytime?)

fahdriyami says:

Im sorry to "bust" your bubble, but you're wrong. Just because the glass is curved doesnt make it weaker or less durable to shocks. Its the process in which the glass was made that matters. Go to the Corning Gorilla Glass website and read about said process before blurting out what you think to know is fact.

bono5112 says:

Drop any phone on the corner and your likely in trouble

Flagz says:

While you may be correct, which I know you are, you are REALLY awful at arguing/convincing. The majority of all cracked screens, flat or curved, all happen on a corner. I have a 8X and a 920 and dropped both numerous times on corner and neither have cracked. It IS TRUE that curved has a higher possibility of cracking, but all phones has an increased chance on cracking via corner impact. I'll take my chances for asthetics, after all thats what warranty is for.

MarkAllett says:

I love how you can tell it has puremotion from a still.

Did you misread my comment? I never said that it has or that it doesn't. I said that it better have, curved glass and puremotion.

erzhik says:

Curved glass becomes weaker on bigger phones.

dudedud says:

Rather have it flat so you can cover the entire screen with a protector...

Winnabe says:

I think its more like the 720 or 925 with that camera hump. Not the 920

Cellus13 says:

A 925 with polycarbonate mixed with the 920. I hope they pull if off nicely because the 925 is a elegant device.

kevin sledge says:

I was thinking the same thing

Not impressed. Waiting for the 1620.

RyoTGZ says:

Ehh.. 1620? I'd wait for the 1730 if you're going to do that.

kwambe5 says:

Why not the 1840, for that matter? ;)

That does not make any sese! I you're going to wait for the 1840 you might as well wait for the 1845 with alluminum shell. 

winphoneng says:

Or tortoise shell

FacilisDK says:

You guys crack me up :D

No way. If I am going to wait THAT long I might as well get the 1840

DenisSuncity says:

I'm dreaming about  Lumia 1940 to celebrate year Finland survived against Russia.

jason8957 says:

Is that when the allied themselves with the Nazis?

<tasteless humor>
Yes and no, and proud of it. (In short: Finland fought with the Wermacht, not the SS)
And that is why I'll be waiting for the 1945. Because that's how long grandpas held it together.
</tasteless humor>
Actually, the minute that thing hits the shelves...

Jabid21 says:

Indeed, However, this photo confirms what is wrong with a WP phablet. I think Microsoft should add the ability to turn the start screen in landscape orientation. Phablets are fun to use that way.

derDaniel says:

I acutally like the wide screen with more tiles in a row

Shadow 024 says:

I love the wide screen, which is why I own an HTC instead of a Nokia, but I think that screen is way too busy. Unless they add a way to tone down the number of tiles, I'll be sticking with 1280x720. Hopefully manufacturers keep making high end 720p phones.

vslayer31 says:

Yah hopefully coz the battery will make me ruin on a 1080p display which it doesnt make much difference on a 720 p

Aaron M says:

Isn't that the awesome thing of Live Tiles though?  If you feel you have too many and they look busy, then just resize them to larger sizes.  Thats actually how I envision my start screen, except for the top bar.  I want 6 small tiles on top bar for phone/text/email/IE/market/drive.  And then the rest is wide or normal size tiles.

jlzimmerman says:

Agreed.  I like the larger screen, but not the fact that the tiles have been sized in a way where the screen is this busy.  In addition, it's a larger screen, yes, but the tiles are actually smaller than their counterpart tiles on the 9xx/8xx screens.  I don't like this.

Munkeyphyst says:

Based on the scaled renderings, the largest tile on the "bandit" will still be smaller than the current medium tile on the 9xx series phones. Seems like more "stuff" is squeezed onto the screen, but it'll all be less useful. Seems counter to the live tile concept.

Marcelo_M says:

If the screen is really 6" and using the same scale as 720p (1.5x) the size of the tiles will be similar to 620's tiles.. 


Your joking right?... that phone looks good

fwaits says:

Just use more large/medium tiles and it will be less busy.

theefman says:

Here's a crazy concept, WP allows YOU to resize and place the tiles how you want. So what is displayed in the render can be changed. Mind blowing, isn't it?

K_lando says:

why does his comment make you so angry?

FeedTheShark says:

Just because the space is there doesn't mean you have to fill it. I already have some gaps on my 920 home screen.
I find this terribly busy, I hope Nokia come out with some better press shots than this cos it's getting (rightly) slagged on places like Engaget for looking like a dogs' dinner.

Drugar says:

You can customize the number of tiles and size of tiles (the 3 sizes that is). A user can make it as "busy" or as simplistic as they want. 

K_lando says:

If I had a 3rd column of tiles, I think I would utilize only wide and medium tiles and forgo the use of any small tiles.  Like you said, its just way too busy and looks a mess.

sip1995 says:


In Limbo says:

You forgot to remove caps lock ;)

Can't wait either!

andrew120 says:

Looks good.
MIcrosoft better get his stuff together and add more features to the OS.
Hardware is not an issue anymore and with Nokia it never was actually. The HD support was because of lack of support in the OS.

Mr. Tofu says:

Looks too cluttered for my taste. Don't hit me for expressing my opinion! :blocking with arms:

sri_tech says:

Not going to hit you, but you can change the way you want.

kenosando says:

I agree to an extent. That is why I dislike the iOS home screen, even with folders, you still have a cluttered mess of icons. At least you can pick the medium or large tiles if you don't want the look of about 50 small tiles littering your screen.

lubbalots says:

Um you can customize the tiles the way you want the home screen to look. Beautiful or cluttered, its up to you. That's the beauty, so many ways to arrange it never ends.

ruthietootie says:

x2. Too busy. Would like to see what it looks like with less tiles per row

Gurggles says:

Does a high five count as a hit? It looks too cluttered...and with live tiles constantly shifting and moving anyone with ADD will never accomplish anything.

I have add and would be able to accomplish it ? Maybe its your iq :P

aaa6112 says:

IMO, a wider tile (that can take up the entire width of the screen) would greatly reduce the clutter. This would make a row appear less cluttered and more beautiful (IMO at least).

Aaron M says:

Go to hell you f'ing slut bag.

I kid, I kid :)

Dexterrino says:

holy... the camera has a BUMP

aitt says:

What? A bump? No way...

baron1996 says:

Yeah looks like a little bump like the 925

aitt says:

I seriously hope GDR3 takes advantage of landscape mode. Especially for a screen that big. Be stupid not to IMHO

Me too but I have a feeling it wont :(
It would be perfect device to use in landscape!

Aaron M says:

I would expect a feature like that to be part of a 8.1 release, rather than a GDR.

aitt says:

Which means with ATT it'll never see the light of day :-o

In Limbo says:

So true. This sluggish BS needs to stop. I understand the purpose of testing, but we should definitely have the option of just getting the update ourselves -- without Flashing!

infosage says:

Or a version that runs on Windows 8.1  :)

RayWall says:

WindowsRT and WP8 needs to be merged as soon as possible.  This would be so awesome if it had the WinRT Start Screen and was able to run both Windows 8 apps and Windows Phone apps.

I think there should be an option to have an option for a landscape home screen set-up.

Bezzi says:

The lens on the back looks huge for the rumored  20MP sensor. Maybe it has large pixels, like the N8 had?

theefman says:

The last, high end Nokia. Grab it while you can, folks. :)

This is simply not true.

chad08er says:

Their will be a few the deal hasn't went thru yet and Microsoft isn't going to derail Nokia's RD.It takes along time from concept to being on the shelves.

jlzimmerman says:

Not even close to being true.

Jeebus137 says:

I hope this thing is no wider than 82mm since that's as wide as the Nokia CR-200 car holder/charger will open. Is the rumored size just from the forums, because that math was all over the place...

Aaron M says:

Good point. Hopefully when they made the CR-200 they took into account future form factors.

The slabs of ham I call thumbs demands this device. Especially since no one believes in physical keyboards anymore.

Mooncow27 says:

Godzilla's phone.

In Limbo says:

Nah. Kaiju, lolol.

aaa6112 says:

I'd be really disappointed if there isn't a large/wide tile option that can take up the entire width of the screen. To me, having smaller tiles pinned next to a wide tile looks ugly.

sri_tech says:

You want tile with entire width of the screen?

Open any tile and there you have it.

aaa6112 says:

Not sure what that means

3 rows of tiles looks bad.. I hope there is an option to disable it...

Muessig says:

Extremely unlikely.

silverbladex says:

I will break my contract to get that phone. It might be only me, but I like that it has a lot going on the home screen. Gives the phone a lot of life.

sasukeluffy says:

20mp with Xenon?

el-ojo says:

It looks like 2 leds to me.

Ahh 2 i only see one ??O_O

AntonyJoseph says:

The last Nokia Smartphone. Go out in a blaze of glory.Hope they release it in 2013 as planned.

rodneyej says:

Why is it the last❔ What makes you so sure❔

gabrelov says:

If you remember the aluminum cast the camera is different as well as the screen

baron1996 says:

I take it back agree with u guys

greg2k says:

Shame there are no real uses for a stylus on WP8, because the phablet form factor lends itself very well to some form of handwriting, drawing, etc. Something writing-related should arrive on WP8.1

poiman says:

I guess that the OS isn't ready yet for stylus support, which is a shame! Android has supported them for like 3 years! How come Microsoft is always so late to the party? WP8.1 has to support them and 2 apps side by side!!

Munkeyphyst says:

Haha! MS late to the party with stylus support?! Holding on to the "antiquated" stylus tech was the biggest complaint of windows mobile and the early MS tablets. Sorry, not suggesting stylus support wouldn't be awesome on a 6" phone, but the irony of the comment struck me.

Rich White says:

They could do so much more with One Note making it even more useful. A hybrid of Evernote and Samsungs new wheel on the note 3.

Sarang68 says:

The base of the phone seems clean so speakers will have to be at the back or if in front,hopefully stereo speakers. Usb port also must be at the top. Chances there could be HDMI out?

Micah Dawson says:

Seeing as att got the 1020...verizon better get the 1520

Unlikely, this is a new phone unlike the 928 which is an iteration of the 1920. It's more likely that this will be a phone released for multinational markets which makes it easy to include ATT on that list (due to the frequencies they use).

WinFan1 says:

I like how they are unifying the looks of alot of their high end phones :) im happy with im still dying to get a yellow phone ;(

poiman says:

Sh*t... There are no signs of a stylus! What's the point of a phablet without one? Just a bigger screen?


People still use stylus? LoL, i had note1,2 , i hardly ever used them... its a gimmick..imho

DenisSuncity says:

Last time I used stylus with my Palm.

For me it must have been my HTC Universal, I think that was the last "mushy screen" phone I owned. Not sure.

Credo93 says:

I never used the stylus on my old Nokia N900

I am now glad that I didn't run out and get the 1020.

Kram Sacul says:

The little holes for the inevitable wireless charging accessory piss me off but since it's aluminum it's okay in this instance.

baron1996 says:

Hey it isnt aluminium

teoami says:

The holes you see at the top of the phone is a speaker grill. Rear facing stereo speakers to be exact. I am dissapointed to see that there is no Xenon flash. Hopefully this render is a little inaccurate.

That doesn't look much like a speaker grill to me... Most likely for wireless charging accessory...

rodneyej says:

This will be mine❕❕

winphoneng says:

How can a render be yours?

Err... By saving it to the phone or pc? O_o

Alex Dean says:

Unless its merely a creative render, it seems like they've been taking feedback on board and moved the back and search buttons closer to the home button.

shreyas15 says:

So many tiles looks cumbersome to me. From the before leaked screenshot of the start screen, i resized the image to fit my 4.3" screen on 720. It looks really crowded. On a bigger screen it may be a different thing altogether. In this rendering too ot looks damn crowded, right?

That is a clutter screen with all those Tiles.

Looks like a big mix of 925 and the 720.

One question, when this is supposed to be released??

The tiles.. It looks great, but it's too crowded.

poiman says:

Damn! All you guys saying the same! If it is too crowded for you, just use larger tiles!

uopjo6 says:

The point is that's not how it works with users wanting to jump ship. The presentation of the screen is cluttered and this will be the first impression of WP. Although I do understand they're trying to show more options with GDR3....

trickym81 says:

I like the amount of stuff you can fit on the screen at once.

raul_junior says:


lubbalots says:

Xbone, Lumia 1520, how I'm I gonna pay for all this.

jdandison says:

Hope they put in a double height tile like Windows 8.1

That would be freakin awesome! On that screen size, a news app for example, would look gorgeous!

JPDVM2014 says:

It looks great, the side bezels look to be a little thinner than in the mockup from yesterday. I really don't understand why so many people harp about the screen being cluttered. This is one person's interpretation of their homescreen. All that you need to do is use all large tiles if you want it to be less cluttered. The only thing that will keep me from this phone is if there is no stylus. I want a Note type device, not a humongous phone.

pr0phecy says:

You can also use an app like HeaderTiles to make your home screen really shine :)

pr0phecy says:

Can I get this with RT? :P

battl3cat says:

With those dimensions, this phone would be bigger than the 6.3-inched Galaxy Mega, which is already pretty huge
I'm still waiting for a LG G2 / Sony Z1 kind of device, with a screen size between 5 and 5.2 inches, because there's a pretty big gap between the 1020 and this 1520

cooljatt says:

Large Version of lumia 925....

Dome85 says:

It's a great device but Microsoft and Nokia should implement phablet features just like the Note line. A giant phone is useless. It needs a pen, multi windows.... and more... And I doubt Microsoft is doing that.

K_lando says:

That's what I'm thinking.
It depends on the person really.  Based on the comments, it seems people fall into 1 of 2 categories:
1. Those who just want a bigger screen.
2. Those who think bigger screen should offer additional purpose you can't have on a 4 inch screen.
 I fall into group #2... is the reason why I still don't own a slate of any kind, I don't have a purpose for one.

Kristijan87 says:

I agree completely and I was thinking the same thing, watching the Note 3 demo the other day. Screen that big could easily support two apps side by side. Not to mention a good pen support. Why do I have this feeling Microsoft will promise a whole bunch of "phablet features" for Windows Phone 9 or 8.8 or whatever... 

Why do a press shot with the phone in horizontal position... when the Live Tiles don't rotate?
Come on, this is getting embarrasing already.

I'm wondering about that too...

DennisvdG says:

I would love this so much! But where do I get €600,- :( and honestly I think it would be a waste of my 920 to replace it within a year...

fireball24 says:

Would this possibly come to Verizon!? I think we need something like a 1020 on vzw as well

Law00 says:

So Word, Excel, PowerPoint will be separate apps?

lubbalots says:

Love that beautiful mess. I think I'll make mine look just like that.

enzom09 says:

Sexy as fuck wow. Want to trade in my 925 now...

cesar ruiz1 says:

The first thing im gonna do when I have my 1520 is put all small tiles on screen just to see how beautifully retarded it'll look like.

The clock says 1520. Anyone else notice that?

We discussed that during previous screenshot leak. "L" for Lumia at top-left, 15:20 for.. well 1520 and the large "8" in messages for Windows Phone 8 and so on... ;-)

I see. Unfortunately I can't read every single comment ;)

DJCBS says:

And this is where the entire Tiles concept falls appart. That screen looks incredibely cluttered! Not attractive at all.
Sure, you can put bigger tiles...but I think it would help if, with a screen that huge, you could actually leave spaces between tiles, instead of forcing them all together.

pmich says:

way too busy.  They need to make all small tiles one colour to create a more unform feel.  Only medium and wide tiles should have other colours to showcase what's on those tiles.  
att least that's how i have it on my 920.  All my tiles at the top are grey with the exception of the people and me tile.

mukulvdhiman says:

I hate it when literally everything gets leaked before the actual thing.. :-/

teaMJPx says:

This is my next phone (if mobile gets it)... With the many new devices coming out (xbox/ps4/1520) its gonna be an expensive Christmas... jejeje

RyanAMG says:

Verizon take my money already

FacilisDK says:

I cannot not have this phone in my life!

ryan_linz says:

The way they arrange the tiles in these leaked photos and renderings makes the 1080p version of WP homescreen look too busy.  I wanna see what it looks like with more medium tiles on the screen.

blackhawk556 says:

With these leaks coming more often, is it possible this phone is near to being announced and released?

Supposed announcement on September 20, so I would guess so...

I'm loving the look of the screen and the back. Looks to have built-in wireless charge plus there is no 1020 hump.

Here's hoping T-Mobile won't have to wait six months to get a variant.

terrokkinit says:

I want one!!! It so pretty!

This is going to be very popular I'm sure.  Not for myself, too big, but there's a market for this.  Analysts predict upwards of 208 million giant smart phones will sell in 2015.  Considering that there are very few giant smart phones available today, that's a pretty huge market.
This will grab people's attention and more and more people will start to notice that there is a viable alternative to Android and iOS.
Link to the report

Daniel Meek says:

Looks to be a beautiful phone. I wonder if there will be any phablet specific OS enhancements to make it more multi-tasking friendly like what the Galaxy Note series has going for it.

Any ideas on what the holes or contacts are between the camera and the headphone jack?

My guess, Wireless Charging Accessory...

Birch Eddy says:

will people ever stop complaining on any new posts on wpc,this is my first comment ever on this forum in Almost two years if am correct,i just had to Because its so Freaking annoying

I have to agree with you. I read other OS forums (Android, Kindle, Apple) but they don't seem to get the same rude comments as they do here. WP comments can get down to the Yahoo level for the most innocent comments.
Anyway, WP still has very good followers who comment and respond well with the community. I enjoy reading through them :)

TreizFaction says:

Shut up and take my money!!!

wetworker says:

I would get this in a heartbeat if it comes in 64BG flavor. Hopefully Rogers will carry this.


*update* oh yea it haves to come in a 64GB model. Or SDcard option. *fingers crossed*

tristan88 says:

Feel like press shots shouldn't highlight the lack of landscape support for the home screen

ejlee072006 says:

Oh shit that's beautiful..give it to me

bsd107 says:

Needs the 41MP pureview.....

husam2277 says:

I don't think this phone has 20 MP camera... I think that the fact that there are two nokia phablets coming, this one with 8 or 13 MP camera and another more premium metal one (shown in leaked image before) with around 20 MP camera....

btgusto says:

isnt the next 920 going to be all aluminum and slightly bigger?  I think i'll wait to see what the 920 will look like before upgrading from my current 920.  This phone is pretty interesting though

jm5001 says:

Man, I'd be sorely tempted to drop my HTC 8X for this hot bit of kit if I knew it was coming on a Canadian carrier.

shira_nai says:

Reasons why people want this phone
- Big screen
- Nokia
- FullHD display
- Nokia
- Great processing power
- Nokia

gsmhelper says:

What about SD Card Slot?