The private beta app for BBM on Windows Phone may be here but you can't have it yet

BBM for Windows Phone

BlackBerry may be the struggling for relevancy in 2014, but they still have a couple of valuable properties, including their BlackBerry Messenger (BBM) service, which is now on iOS and Android. Earlier this year, BlackBerry announced that a version for Windows Phone was also on the way, and July was last reported as the due date.

With that introduction, it should not be surprising to find the private beta of the app hiding out on the Store under the BlackBerry Limited publishing name. However, like all good things, you cannot download it yet. Private beta means you have to be on the tester list, and that involves using your Microsoft Account ID. As a result, you can look at the app on the Store, but you can not download.

BBM for Windows Phone can bring more parity between iOS and Android when released. As to how the app looks, we still don't know. Windows Phone Central reported earlier that Modern UI elements would be present, while preserving the familiar BBM design:

"…BBM going forward will strive to maintain a healthy balance between BBM maintaining its own identity while still honoring the best practices of platform's guidelines. In other words, BBM users moving between platforms should recognize and know how to use BBM in an instance, while at the same time the app should still look and feel like the best native apps on the platform. For Windows Phone, expect BBM to feature its own live tile and panoramas."

The release of BBM for Windows Phone is most likely just days, if not weeks away. Windows Phone Central is attempting to verify that this is this real BBM app, even if a private beta.

Update: We have confirmed that this is the official BBM app from BlackBerry. The app is not coming out tonight, but BlackBerry will be extending the beta to some users in the near future. BlackBerry will announce details about that beta soon.

Via: reddit




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Daneshd1 says:

Need it badly ... Then I will not need whatscrap

Dean Lewis says:

Whatscrap, LOL!

mrdvos says:

Another theme for idiots.

Of all the tech people I know literally zero of them use "WhatsCrap" i was shocked that FB paid what they did.

Abhishek P says:

Here in India, everyone uses WhatsApp. It is not crap, it's a way of life

Daneshd1 says:

Well in also from India .. Majority of my friends use bbm .. So you can't say that ..

fachru says:

In Indonesia also majority is using BBM and WhatsApp. I can said most of peoples is using WA to chat with Blackberry owner since Blackberry previously market leader here. and BBM at that time only exclusive in BB. furthermore Line version for BB is bad and drained batery so fast at that time WA is the only option to connect with BB owner. I think now everyone starting to move into Line or Kakaotalk. I think because of free 1 year WA already expired for some people and Line nor Kakaotalk have a huge advertisement and promotion here..

Sameer Beri says:

Oh really bade log badi baat..

walter1832 says:

Well, my friend's cusin's buddy saw a man play an American Indian on TV once, and he uses neither...just SMS.

Atanu Nath says:

"Everyone"....yeah, no.

I am from India ... and I hate to use it.. i am using it because  some of my friends forced me to use that :P, And for "the way of life" part never try to generalies your own beliefs for rest of the population.

ByeVanno says:

for one it's not crap and no offsense this time but i'm assuming you're american(or maybe canadian) you guys seem to mostly have cheap texting and i rarely hear about you guys with whatsapp i was shocked when i went to canada for school and found nobody who's from canada who uses it and when i visted my cousins school in america didn't find anybody there who used it either but i know from internaitonal studens that it's just as popular to them as for where i'm from

Daneshd1 says:

I'm from India ..

simphf says:

Don't you bring Canada into this. Blackberry is Canadian.

Not since they've used foreign factories for repair/manufacturing

All repairs for devices sold in Canada are done in Canada.

Briggy420 says:

Americans have cheap texting? That's laughable, here in Ireland for €10 a month off contract I get unlimited texts along with 1GB of data and 300 call minutes.

iFokat says:

Your last name is Wiener!!??


Anilu7 says:

That's a German name.  So?  Stop showing your ignorance.

KMF79 says:

They paid for the access to all the young people that use it.

poken1151 says:

The thing is, most of the people I knew who seemed to only ever use BBM, have now mostly migrated to iMessage or to a, surprisingly, lesser extent Whatsapp. I feel once it's released, most headlines will say, "breaking, Frozen T-Rex released on Lab-Grown T-Rex". 


Either way, a welcome app I'll be downloading.

dalydose says:

iMessage? That should just vanish.

FeedTheShark says:

Well it's been out for a while for iOS and Android, so some people must already know how that's affected usage of WhatsApp and iMessage. We're sadly just 4% as WP users so won't make much difference to the overall picture. I have never used BBM but would like to see BB become important again, they were pioneers and deserve some credit for messaging over upstarts like WhatsApp and others who are copying what has come before. That said, would be nicer if Skype had a better and lighter client and everyone used that for messaging, another MS mess up there when they killed Messenger.

cdubbsworld says:

im pretty sure imessage is only on apple? or did i miss somthing

poken1151 says:

Nope, you're quite right it is iOS only. But that's the thing you see: Despite things like kik, ping and Whatsapp, people were still buying BBs because, well, you couldn't get on to BBM without it.

Similarly here, some who could go either way, buy an iPhone so as to not be left out of their circles, believe it or not. Plus, you now have access to the supplimental servies (kik etc) and an exclusive one, on a device that's considered premium with the first go-to market place. So it is a (huge) selling point for many.

poken1151 says:

I agree. If Skype was a good bit lighter and less power hungry and deeply integrated with the OS (even a little deeper than in 8.1), then yea, I'd see it being worthwhile as competition. It's not an all inclusive messaging platform a-la iMessage, it's a really good messaging platform that's considered just an app barely many use. Muchless in 4% of the market (granted, saying 4% is better than 3% we were saying last year).

If we had a sizable dent in the market... I strongly feel it's a mixture of noise and the low end market as to why there are even (some, half assed) official apps making releases these days. 

realwarder says:

If Blackberry had been switched on and released BBM for every platform a few years ago then iMessage would not have taken off and it would be easier to move back to a Blackberry from an iPhone.  But people get entrenched in a set of friends who live through iMessage...

Well at least this is faster than flipboard

"Sorry you don't have permission to download this app".. This is what it tells me..

nyolc8 says:

Did you read the article or the title atleast? lol

Yugiro says:

lol, you're maybe one of the fandroids who reads the first word of the title then go straight to comment.

akshatm says:

BBM is more or less outdated in my opinion.

Dean Lewis says:

I assume so but then again I've never used it to see how many friends actively use it. It is on iOS & Android, but last time I asked they also all used Whatsapp.

Sp12er says:

In my case... Almost all people I know has BBM... It became the main communication method in my family after normal call and text messaging... So, I do need it..

Its a matter of having as much as official apps as possible on the platform.
I'm one of those few who still using BBM, I'm using my dads iphone for that sometimes.

dalydose says:

If BBM is less battery thirsty, then I'll work on switching peeps to it. I think WhatsApp is a main source of my battery woes.

Totally agree...Whatsapp its a battery hog!

FeedTheShark says:

I don't find it too big a drain. I wonder how many people on iOS have moved from WhatsApp to BBM?

Interesting to see big companies like MS and BB as former market leaders going from being exclusive to having to be more service based and have their products on all platforms whereas Apple and Google have things more exclusive (though Google has had to put most of their services on iOS).

sk8er_tor says:

How is having more features than the competiton outdated? You either don't know the definition of the word or you've never used BBM on iOS, Android, or BB10.

CrackFachry says:

Trust me.. It's not outdated. I like it more than WhatsApp cause BBM has more features and security.... and best of all it's ad free (unlike Line or Wechat).

People often disses BBm due to the falling market share of Blackberry. But BBm-the app, is probably one of the best IMs out there.

I would like a beta invite. Where do I sign?

That's just not right.

Roger Nunez says:

Hello Daniel. I can download

ranoej says:

I love you daniel. .lol kidding

karelj says:

*Jack Bauer voice* Make it happen, Rubino.

JoRdaNeK says:

Dan Rubino sleeps with sunglasses on and puts on another pair when he wakes up

Krishanu Dey says:

But "install" button appearing on the screen. That means I could download it, right?

Nope, tried it, it just returns Sorry, you do not have permission to download the app after showing Downloading... in the middle of the screen for a few seconds.

Sachinmeet says:

You can sign on a cheque for wpcentral

Chances are its the same way they did it with ios/android thru bb beta zone

Benjec83 says:

I just signed in with my old beta zone account - but I couldn't see it anywhere

Saiflowrider says:

I heard its gonna be in store on 15 july

Dean Lewis says:

Oh really? Reliable source?

Shhhhh! the words "reliable" and "source" are like WPCentral's Voldermort words...

Sp12er says:

Lol... "you know who". What should we call it then?

guillams says:

Show us "you know who" about this rumor!

Chris Yahya says:

Voldemort Rubino.....

Sp12er says:

You said it! Now he'll find you and hunt you down!

asna_n800 says:

Not if he is wearing the invisibility cloak :D

Chris Yahya says:

Aaahhh! Now!! Expecto Binorepel patronum!!!!!

asna_n800 says:

But I have all "The Deathly Hallows" :P

omer620 says:

Well. Daniel has seven horcruxes

omer620 says:

Daniel riddle?

asna_n800 says:

No doubt Daniel is so sassy.. ‼

Chris Yahya says:

HAHAHA +T-1000

Seems like just yesterday when everyone I mean everyone I knew had a Blackberry... Poor chaps

Dean Lewis says:

And us poor Windows people were stuck with shoddy Windows Mobile 6.1. lol!!!! Of course people used Blackberry or Palm...... pre-iPhone.

I have little hopes for WP8's futrue sadly :( all these Android Lumia rumors coupled with all the complacency among my fellow WP users.

Ankmeyester says:

You're not one of the optimistic ones are you.

sundawg#WP says:

He's just calling what he sees. We shouldn't be a pacified community...keep voicing concerns. It helps the cause (though it can be depressing for fans, too)

Sp12er says:

Good thing is... Lots of my friends who's an old used of Nokia still change to Lumia as their first Smart Phone... Just shows how user's loyalty matters. Microsoft just need to do more catch up so it won't make the users feel left out.

In terms of what? I'm assuming apps.

Nokia5110 says:

Can't save contacts on sim card, Skype is hopeless, "running out of memory on line 1", usb tethering, auto update time & date, the xbox music, video and the list goes on! Need to poke the phone to see missed communication? Btw interested in Nokia. Would check if the x family is more capable!

donbreathe says:

Auto update of Time and Date already in WP 8

I suppose saving contacts on SIM is still essential for some, but when you have the ability to back your contacts up to your email, it's quickly becoming outdated, IMO. When I use to save or back up contacts to SIM, I still had to go and add other information that didn't get saved.

As for Skype, I haven't used it enough to have the memory problem. The date and time on WP has always been able to update automatically. The notification center takes care of the missed communications, assuming you have 8.1. The official release, along with the Cyan update will bring features not included in the Dev Preview. Xbox video and music is improving. Although, I will admit that the recent update to Xbox video did something funky on my phone. As for music, I suppose there is always room for improvement, but it does what it needs to do. USB tethering would be nice, but most phones have hotspot built in. Now, for the low end phones that do not have hotspot, tethering is important. Although, I'm not sure if that is a WP thing or carrier. I've never tried.

But, I believe the official release of the upcoming updates will bring WP in line with Android and iOS.

umangpop777 says:

How can you judge the future of windows phone where you even don't know the spelling of 'Future'

@Sir William Wiener

karelj says:

I actually preferred WM 6.x to Blackberry.

pattayo_ib says:

What? BBM? What is it? Is it an app? It it good?


BBM let you enjoy the features of black berry service without buying their devices

89caps says:

Sounds familiar

guillams says:

I love when others don't understand the sarcasm!

TechFreak1 says:

Well it is hard for some people to derive emotions from text, that is why ending a sarcastic remark with /s or /sarcasm helps :P lol.

rodneyej says:


hotraia says:

Neveeeeeeeeerrrr say Neveeeeeeeeerrrr

rodneyej says:

You just said it!!!!

girishN says:

Nevereeeeeeeerrr doesn't mean never.

Greece2014 says:

Never means Νεβερ

Davestrada says:

I said until last week I would never download that disgusting app and now I want to try it, I find it distasteful since irs mostly used to look for sex by distasteful people, but I broke up and like jigsaw.. I WANT TO PLAY A GAME.

rodneyej says:

Lol!!.. What game❔❔

Davestrada says:

Looking for distasteful people to forget my ex, how lame...

rodneyej says:

Be careful!! You might actually find a nice one.... My current GF, the one on my profile picture,,, I actually met on POF..... We've been together almost 8 months!!!! I owe it to POF big time!!!
Edit... Wrong article... Lol!!!!

girishN says:

ये बहुत जटिल होता जा रहा है!

Honestly who uses BBM? I havent used BBM since 2007 when I had a Blackberry.

Sp12er says:

In my country (Indonesia) BB is still considered as a great device for communicating with other people... Although now BBM is in Andro and iPh (WP soon), the Z3 Jakarta is selling like hotcakes here because of its low price (despite normal specs)

And there are many 'alayers' using it -.-

pramudyapp says:

Alay mana? Alay pondok gede? _._

Dhani_muh says:

Wkwkwkwkwkw. Kacauuu!

Sp12er says:

Like it or not, we gotta accept that it's still preferred service for lots of people.

CrackFachry says:

Lol No. Those alyers moved to more "hip" messengers like Line or KakaoTalk.
BBm is still a great app. And it crossed over to other OS too. Even if you don't like BB, you can't deny its usefulness and great features.

heickelrrx says:

Please don't use some 4lay word around here that's emabarsing you know

still I love Line better than BBM

why? because i can't still get whatever message i missed unlike BBM :v and it's stiker is damn intersting

16stone says:

Well my 18yo daughter refuses to give it up.

Only in Indonesia (maybe). Person can be tell and sell the bussiness with, "pinnya berapa mas?" Dan ini jamak :(

heickelrrx says:

Well why don't people ask "Username lina apa?" or " ada E-mail yang bisa dicontact?"

seriously if you talk about bussiness E-mail way better. and nowdays opening e-mail lot of easier than before


Dhani_muh says:

Goddamn right!

Sachinmeet says:

Hey Dan, you could have used the bbm icon on a windows phone instead of showing it on X(Android).

It's subtle but not so subtle they're prepping us for the surrender

josonjoy1986 says:

What are you talking about ? The picture shows a Lumia, not X.

Roger Nunez says:

I can download the app

Roger Nunez says:

sorry. I Just tried to install and nope I dont have permission to install

pankaj981 says:

Did it install?

osars ehi says:

Is it working...put up a pic as proof

How did you sign for the beta program?

Dhani_muh says:

No pic meand nothing!

AlexanderJJJ says:

Daniel do an article about the Android Lumia. I'm curious what's your take on it.

milfermon says:

I don't think it's worth making an article about that, as it's only a rumor, for now anyway

Have you seen WP's US market share it's tanking faster than Myspace and VCRs... Cloud Man Nadella doesnt care and everyone here calls me a dooms day nut for saying the market is in a nose dive when it is.



awneze says:

It's tanking cos no new device. No Lumia 520 successor or 1020 successor. Shelf life for a phone now is 9months after that if there isn't a newer model, its dead

Sean D. says:

Wow. Some of yall really do live blog to blog. 

Iain_S says:

it hasn't gone up this quater but most importantly it hasnt gone down, it has remained flat but has added new users in the process. Also btw android also has remained flat with zero growth in the USA.

louisoneal says:

I have a rumor.

raphok says:

i want THREEMA!

sicnus says:

Oh noes! Whatever shall I do!?

pkwesi77 says:

The guy on the reddit link said it will be online worldwide in some hours

Ziyad Gamal says:

Yeah Thats Me xD

teetod says:

How sure are you? Where did you get your details from?

Ziyad Gamal says:

From A Windowsphone French Group

teetod says:

I guess the group was wrong afterall

sarim_xyz says:

I don't care about BBM anymore, WhatsApp and Facebook messenger are enough for all purposes.

ZvjerOPC says:

Don't underestimate my power of suggestion :-) But generally I do agree with you.

andynew89 says:

I don't I hate FB messenger

ZvjerOPC says:

I used BBM on blackberry 10 device and I like BBM a lot. Looking forward to this one! I hope they don't screw up like Viber on Windows phone...

sarim_xyz says:

Viber on Windows Phone is the worst app ever!!

May be u forgot SKYPE ... ! The standard of Worst app.

DaiaX says:

Please do release it fast.

venetasoft says:

BB has all my respect (apple and google don't)

edsal says:

It's needed on the platform just like all the other applications.

This is creep one... :-)

Can't we just download the XAP and deploy it manually? There should be a way to push it manually if we can get the file from the store.

You cant deploy marketplace xap as its locked....

The only way of piracy in Windows Phone is deploying a CRACKED XAP

And deployment of cracked xap isn't recommend

mrskycar says:

Even then there might be a whitelist against the BBID.

andynew89 says:

I want it now! Well at least we know its definitely coming :-)

JoRdaNeK says:

HooHooo! I thought it was downloading for a second there! Not that I really care for the app, it's the fact that I'm not allowed it, but I know it's there, and also, I LOVE OFFICIAL STUFF ON WP!!!

Just. Cant. Waite.

Jazmac says:

No rush. When its dropped, people will grab it. Besides, why grab an app when its not yet ready for prime time? I still don't know what the hype about a messaging app from Blackberry is. But when it drops, I'll evaluate from the review and comments if its anything but hype.

DrewLumia900 says:

They invented instant messaging!

Jazmac says:

Who? Blackberry invented instant mesenging? I take it you've never heard of ICQ and AOL?

exkerZ says:


CrackFachry says:

I was a frequent ICQ and Yahoo Messenger back in the days, but I'd consider BBM as the real first instant messenger. ICQ and YM needed u to be signed in and when you were.. It drained your battery like crazy. We often signed out those IMs after using them. As for BBM, you only needed BIS (now u don't even need BIS), sign in only once and you're good to go. Messages also more instaneous with BBM than those two.

kingjah says:

Does anyone know if it sends over IP like Apples iMessage service does? Or does it just use sms/mms? If it does indeed send over IP then the hype is real and something that will challenge iMessage as a cross-platform alternative.

Nikedas says:

Yes, it requires data to send messages, so yes, it sends over IP. iMessage isn't cross-platform, only iOS. BBM has many other features in addition to instant messaging, including BBM channels, BBM groups, voice and video chat.

Does anyone know anything about 'fring' it was a hit in Symbian Nokia phones, group video call, text, voice and VoIP

With all the apps available for chatting, I doubt that fring can hold its ground.

I have used it for years, to bad is not on Windows phone

Sean D. says:

Almost positive it was released on WP7, but by that time I had no use for it. Not sure what happened to it.

aXross says:

It's happening! :D

trwrt says:

Great, now we just need a Gopher client and a UUCP implementation and the museum will be complete!

awneze says:

Orkut has officially ended its service, and BBM is alive?

DrewLumia900 says:

No one but you even knows what Orkut is anyways lol

rponting says:

It's an social network which was popular in India and Brazil. Facebook overtook it in 2008 i guess in terms of users in india. But it was very popular during its peak.

asna_n800 says:

People don't really catch sarcasm nowadays. -.-

I understand that all users will be able to access it as of midnight tonight...I hope...I really hope.  Windows phone is gaining ground in my book .  Different manufacturers have certain niches...Apple has IOS (which is crock btw), Sony has their waterproof phones and solid camera, Samsung has crapload of features, LG has OIS and small bezels and Nokia has the best camera on the market...full stop.  As long as microsoft continues to maintain an edge with their camera they will always be around.  

Midnight? What's the source of that info.. And what timezone ?

Nokia Was first with OIS. So I'd give them the credit for that.

hoovermac says:

Midnight in which time zone???

mohawk apple says:

When i searched the store for BBM it dont come up!  I know u cant DL it just wanting to check it out lol

I see it, but I don't have permission to install this app...sadly...

WhatsApp is still the boss for me, BBM came n went on my Droid...but..it might have space for use on my WP8.1 lol

I think it is the geniune BBM app since the Blackberry Limited publisher name is the same on Andoid and iOS stores.

I tried to download and install the app onto my Nokia Lumia 1020 and it says i don't have the required permission to download the app, which is a shame.

nath520 says:

Maybe we should wait about a week or more.just like Path before

I really want to care about this because I kind of like BB, but there's little reason for me to try it. I don't event know anyone that uses this and I'm already seen as the contrarian for using Windows Phone.

erickdcal says:

No tengo permisos para descargar.

rashberry says:

I have the xap but that probably wont work ..havent tried to deploy yet

Angga 96 says:

How to crack BBM.xap ?,

Modify the CAPS.... I did it, it worked.

umangpop777 says:

How you did it ??? Can you please tell us ???

rashberry says:

I have no idea ..i got it from the wp store opened in IE

Villain says:

One thing I miss about BB... If you never used bbm you wont understand (and whatapp doesn't compare)

Roach26 says:

Checking the store for the past two days for this app...

nath520 says:

Dont hope too much for the Beta

Nokia5110 says:

Skype update to 5.2 for ishare. Nothing for WP8..?

If BBM is a hassle to use, as on android then it might be not worth the effort . Surrendered the invitation process.

The BBM.XAP wont install either it might open up later for us as the description did not say Pricate beta could be the place holder for later idk