The purported Windows Phone 8.1.1 feature list is fake

It's Saturday. Go out with friends, call your mother, do some house chores. No need to get wrapped up on supposed "Windows Phone 8.1.1" update nonsense

If it sounds too good to be true (and there's no proof given), it probably is (and trust me, this is bogus). Having said that, let's have a real discussion: What do you want to see in Update 1 for 8.1? Sound off below!



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S Vaibhav says:

Thanks for clearing that up!

Blade800 says:

For starters, for god sake add data toggle to action center. Thanks

Mister Gore says:

This. Probably the only disappointment I've had with 8.1

Miistercoool says:

I want Cortana to updated and for her to call me by my name >_< she doesn't do it!

lubbalots says:

She should address you by your name when you open her up. Be nice if she would say something like, "good morning father." Father is the name I use.

RyanAMG says:

On mine she has my name in text but when she says my name she says chief. I did a factory reset and setup a new profile and she did the same so I reset again and went back to my profile

Tragic says:

Same here I concluded that maybe that's how she's suppose to be until she's updated in the final release or the next update for 8.1

hasanmj8 says:

When u up her up he said :D

Prince#WP says:

Don't get me wrong, I love WP but why would someone take the time to write a fake update for an OS that isn't even at 5% of the market yet?

lubbalots says:

There's probably some truth to it.

Can u tell me that how cortana. When opening it calls our name in my it doesnt

blackhawk556 says:

Her father is bill Gates. Just ask her. :)

lubbalots says:

Dammit! No wonder her voice doesn't sound natural.

hamburg82 says:

People need to remember Cortana is in beta and they're making updates on the back end. Be patient these things will come.

cspkcats says:

Also, Cortana is an app and will probably receive updates outside of the OS update cycle too.

I want her to say my name too

Zulfigar says:

That's currently in the works and isn't active until later, probably when the beta ends

tofferne says:

I´m sure she is tired and need to sleep after all you guys push her, she will come back in betetr condition after a month holiday, it was a very hard time for her to start up.

spinzeroWL says:

My big disappointment - the gallery! I added a few hundred pictures/vids from various Windows Phone devices that I've had over the years....
The gallery has not sorted them by date, and the videos have all been added to April, 2014 (when their time stamps show that they were recorded from as far back as 2011!).
I tried it today with some WP8.1 photos/vids taken on my mum's 1020. When I add them to my own 1020, the videos fail to sort into date order.
What's equally annoying is having Whatsapp photos and saved pictures showing up in the camera roll. What is the point in having dedicated folders for those apps if they still go and mess up the camera roll? It just looks ugly.
The gallery really needs a big overhaul

adeadby30v says:

The date thing is annoying but my albums aren't mixed, when you open Photo it says "All" at the top of you swipe to the right you are all your albums separated (camera roll, saved, WhatsApp, OneDrive, Facebook, etc)

pattayo_ib says:

Exactly. I just missed those shuffling backgrounds...

abduz says:

I personally prefer default landing to be on the albums, so it would be nice to have the flexibility to do that. Whatsapp photos dont save in my camera roll but they save in a folder called other photos which seems to be shared with other apps as well... That i found odd. I do however prefer that they have sorted Facebook and OneDrive photos from the main album, that definitely cleaned things up a bit.

I've missed that too. Maybe battery saver toggle could be added too.

Dean McCrae says:

All settings should have been pinable and also able to be placed in notification center, not just a few here and there.

lubbalots says:

I thought the same thing! Stupid not to add that to the toggle. +1520...

mab664 says:

Improved geo location for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth

mottle says:

though, there is always the option to create a Tile for this setting and datasense has also improved a lot

AML1 says:

Its a security feature as far as I have heard so if the phone gets stolen there are still ways if tracking it remotely. Both WI-FI and flight mode operate in a way that switching them on/off needs a password. But it should have been included like the flight mode toggle

ldelvasto says:

Sounds ok as a security feature. May sound much better as an optional feature!

kenzibit says:

Just give me my email file picker and my Xbox games hub

Can't believe that we still cannot manage (multiple) email attachments on the phone, e.g. when can't/don't want to forward an email as received but have to attach those files to a new mail, regardless of the file type. Oh well, hopefully WP9 will really make us the best business phone

Montpbm says:

OMG!!! That I so ridiculous that we can't do that yet... I send a lot of emails and get tired of having to go to Office or One Note to attach a file other than a photo.

Abrar Shaikh says:

This is proving to be Achilles heel of WP. MS please sort out this issue as early as possible.

mottle says:

I'm not sure but I think iOS has the exact same issue.

stui83 says:

Try the save to onedrive feature and share a link? Attaching files is an outdated process but one we all still love to hang onto. Attachments seem more formal and suitable for business

Wam1q says:

File explorers handle this very nicely.

Does anybody know what they're going to do with the empty "space" on the left of the home screen? The right "space" is the app list, so I feel like they're just saving the other side for something else. But whatever it is, I would like it now.

nelson799 says:

I'd like to have the double sided live tiles to flip over to the other side if I do a swipe right instead of waiting for them to do it on its own. Or maybe just flip the one tile that your finger swipes across. That'd be sweet.

MikeSo says:

I would love for large tiles to have some slideshow-like interactivity.

mottle says:

sounds good in theorie, but that would it make impossible to scroll through the startscreen. The system wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a swipe to turn the tile or a scroll gesture unless it isn't able to read your thought.

Mabe one active corner of the tile to to tab and turn the tile would be possible

nelson799 says:

If you swipe to the right nothing happens, that's why it would work well to flip to the other side. A little tab or something could work well too. I love how it flips but they need to do something about the waiting. Even giving users an option for how quickly they flip could make a difference. Fix that and let me pin the start + theme setting on the home screen or action center would make me a happy camper.

stui83 says:

Recent apps like rt....?

You know what, they should give us a bunch of options for us to choose from. Maybe more settings, recent apps, news headlines, or camera for people without the camera button.

Mortalmoss says:

Yes this. Or make swiping right a shortcut to the app switcher as a quicker alternative to holding the back key when at the start screen

noirsoft says:

Doesn't Kids Corner (if it's active) live to the left of the home screen?

Is it? I thought you could only access it from the lock screen, and it was by swiping left.

chrispyogurt says:

Nothing. Put your phone down. Give it a break. It's the weekend.

2tomtom says:

Would like to see the swipe from left bring up open tiles as in Surface RT.

ogracia says:

On that place you have kidscorner...so it is already in use

Umm I don't know how you don't know this already but that swipe is already assigned for kids corner. yoou can check it in your settings. 


I don't know if mine is just broken, but even with kids corner on, swiping right on my home screen doesn't bring up anything. The only way I can access it is by swiping left on the lock screen.

c1c2c3c4c says:

Last I heard it was for previous apps but that was changed by the app management introduced in 7 so it never got a use. It will likley be implemented when they open up the 3d UI as some sort of a quick menu
... Although it would be a great place for a quick app plugin that loads at start for example a note book app.

hgant says:

Thank you for standing up and saying this. I could not agree with this more.

Fndlumia says:

Agreed cellular data toggle needed

Sledgehamma says:

Oh yeah. Finally we get shortcuts and they forgot the most important one. Sometimes I really question the competence of Microsoft's employees. 2g/3g toggle would be also nice.

Octonabz says:

This and the SIM settings.

punkJD says:

I got really disappointed when I didn't see that on the quick settings.

ITejadaJR says:

Really wanting an organized settings menu!

And app list! By usage, installation time, etc...

Wam1q says:

You can sort the app list by date in Nokia's app folder.

Slovenix says:

A list with Camera, Messaging, Internet, Games, Multimedia section :)

Slovenix says:

This all the way

Just cortana and the rest of bing in my country.

'Cortana no longer in Beta' was perhaps the most ridiculous feature listed, given that the update was said to be a summer release... waaaaaay too soon.

In fact, seeing an 8.1 update so soon after the presumed carrier release in itself is unbelievable already...

That's the summer 2015 list!

DonnaxNL says:

I want Cortana to be better for hands-free use. While on the bike, I ask her what time it is, but she does a web search -_-

kingkoopa09 says:

That could be a good idea for an app in getting on it right away

cnbc86 says:

Yea she does web searches all the time that's a bit annoying. Hopefully that will get better

ItsMcDiddles says:

This is the supposed 8.1.1 post from the supposed Microsoft employee on reddit? Rule number one, don't trust reddit.

Or other WP sites that continuously report fake information... Y'all know which one I'm referring to

Yousef Kawmi says:

WPCentral.com ? :P

Not to sound like I'm kissing up, but WPCentral rarely misses on anything - and if it's something they're not sure of, they make it known. 


The difference is that WPCentral is professional and is run by real reporters and developers in most senses.  This is Mobile Nations' business and filling up pages with garbage isn't going to help you at all long term.


With MS stuff, I trust WPCentral, Paul Thurrott, and Mary Jo Foley.  There are some others thrown in (Tom Warren at the Verge isn't bad either), but those three follow all the major news and are plugged into legit sources to check the info.  That's why Daniel could tell you the Lumia 1820 or 1830 or whatever it was was a fantasy.  He has sources.  He is a real reporter and editor here.  This is his business and he (and all the others guys at WP Central) do a great job at this.


This is my go-to place for WP news.  For general MS stuff, I trust Thurrott and MJ more because that is more up their alley.  WPCentral does report other MS stuff, but Windows Phone is their specialty.  I trust them more than the others when it comes to WP (and I often see Thurrott and MJ defer to WPCentral on Windows Phone).

Yousef Kawmi says:

You clearly didn't see the":P" it was sarcasm.....

Since I agree with you, I'll help you rub that brown stuff off your nose :P

Dean McCrae says:

Daniel will you marry me?? Is that it?

2tomtom says:

WP Central are my go to trusted WP site too. In addition, they have very good MS ecosystem coverage too.

Mynokiablog.com reported about this too.

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ven07 says:

Wow... But there is no proof against it?

I'm your proof. It's fake.

MikeSo says:

"I'm your proof" is too cool. :)

taymur says:

Judge dreds voice: I am.... The law!.

ven07 says:

Lol got it baws :P

CandrabeQx says:

I believe in you!

cesar ruiz1 says:

I AM IRONMAN. you sir are awesome.

superpos says:

Now, that's an answer!...

GG002 says:

I'm Batman! SCCHHHH!

Slovenix says:

You are reason why I like Windows Phone :D

Hahaha you're awesome! Greetings from Jordan.

That's all I need as proof.

"I'm your proof" *wears sunglasses*


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Asik15 says:

Ha Ha i believe you bro ... hope you will post the official date of official 8.1 soon !!

percistratus says:

How can a wish list be fake?

mike_msfan says:

In all this noise ... your comment is actually the best ever one on this new item... You are completely right....How can a wishlist be fake... Its a wishlist!!!.... In a complete weekend mood and ROFL reading your comment(its a complement ok.. no sarcasm here).... Happy weekend to all WPcentral guys.. you rock and to all the WP fans here...

Blade800 says:

You want a proof? Ill give you proof. The fact that this update would bring much more than 8.1 update.

Theres no chance that such little update as 8.1.1 would bring so many changes.

Well, in defense to this, 8.1 brought significantly more on the user front than 8.0 did

That's true, but GDR updates by definition are pretty much bug fixes with a few added features, not milestone updates. A list like that would be ideal for 'threshold' next year, but no idea what's in that...well one thing is, unified notifications across Windows 9/WP9.

Agreed. At this point I expect minor user experience tweaks and fixes. We're more likely to get big features through Nokia style releases I think.

reda igbaria says:

@Daniel Rubino
Is windows phone 9 will be supported on high end windows phone 8? Like icon and 1520?!
Or not?

Natebird says:

@reda igbaria LOL your really going to ask this hahahaha

Nope. Once Windows phone 9 comes out, Windows phone 8 users are garbage to Microsoft. If you're a fan and want to upgrade, pay up. If you're an Android or iOS user, they might have some deals or maybe give you a free Windows Phone for converting (like in their ads).

Dare2Blink says:

What nonsense are you spouting? At least high end windows phone 8 devices (those with snapdragon 800 chips) will almost certainly be upgradeable to wp9. How many times must it me said that they only reason wp7 devices were left behind is because there was a kernel change to wp8? That won't happen again anytime soon.

lerimer says:

Didn't they say last year that devices were going to be upgradable for 2yrs. 8.1 marks the first year.... So it should be clear that yes, wp9 or whatever name they call it will be available for all phones.... Well maybe every phone running 1gig of ram or more.

mike_msfan says:

Completely agree with Dare2Blink and lerimer... William when u say such things with no or partial knowledge you only make yourself look bad... Not windows phone or Microsoft as you think... only shows your ignorance....

leoniDAM says:

The notifications are already unified between Windows and Windows Phone 8.1:
they use the same code for tile notifications, toast notifications and raw notifications, they use the same HTTP request, the same XML payload, they use the same server service.
There is nothing more to unify

noirsoft says:

There are some differences still in how tiles are displayed in terms of number of lines of text per template and layout. That could be what is meant, or perhaps that a unified app installed on both places will have a way to update tiles on all platforms.

mike_msfan says:

Also may be when you have read an individual notification on one device it shows as read on all devices... there is a lot more unifying to do...

alexwilks88 says:

You don't need proof to dismiss something that isn't proven in the first place.

mjrtoo says:

That's not the way proof works. You don't disprove, the claimant has to provide it.

hknutsen says:

Cortana supported in more regions☺

Studio384 says:

That's not to the Windows Phone team, you should go ask the Bing team.

Dean McCrae says:

Ok, Bing team, can you make Bing worth a damn outside the U.S. please.

mighty_stag says:

Cellular data as a quick setting in the action centre.

pampurio97 says:

Nokia (well, Microsoft Mobile..) could add it with Cyan

hipporama says:

And what about those with HTC/Samsung/Huawei?

pampurio97 says:

They could implement it in their firmware update, but it's too early to know..

Hiswona says:

@ hipporama Samsung folder app. Works like a charm. Have a menu for connectivity.

Alphonz says:

Cortana Voice unlock would be great

blackprince says:

I would love that

alexwilks88 says:

I should imagine this would be a massive battery drain if the phone's constantly monitoring audio input?

I can imagine people looking like idiots yelling at their phones trying to unlock it, while I press the power button and swipe up.

Kitavi Ken says:

Haha you've made my afternoon!

keifwoki says:

Haha, but on the other hand.. I can imagine people being fined for using the phone while driving, while I say "Cortana unlock" ... Cortana should have a hands free option, while phone is charging in cradle while driving, she should be paying attention ;)

tumolo says:

Would love to see a real Facebook app. 8.1 is virtually unusable and slow

What? The 8.1 app is the best we've had

pampurio97 says:

It's extremely slow compared to the Android version, for example. I'm an app developer and I know how fast can apps be on WP. This is not even close to the best app experience you can have on Windows Phone 8.1.

Slovenix says:

What I'm saying all the time :)

Smort says:

Works great for me. Just a smidge slower than iOS, but only a smidge.

Arka1412 says:

Can you edit your profile?or change your profile picture from the app?or can you see or give picture comment from the app?IOS and android fb app is far far better

wtrmlnjuc says:

I'm just waiting for a FB app that performs and looks as good as the one that used to come bundled in the People hub.

percistratus says:

I find the fb app on android actually boring. Honestly, fb don't build very good apps. The one on android tablets is so amateurish

Nakazul says:

Working Xbox Music, that's all I need. I miss my songs.

bingMe says:

This⤴⬆ ⬆⬆ All the music I downloaded on my laptop and tablet from Xbox music will not show up in the music app and that's 90% of my music collection. now I have to search the music store whenever I want to hear a certain song

R0bR says:

My whole music collection is Xbox Music and it all shows up in my Xbox Music app before and after my upgrade to 8.1.

bingMe says:

I'm glad that's working out for you but it's not the same for me. Only matched albums are showing up and if I try to copy xbox music songs to my phone from my laptop I get the licensing error and it won't let me add the files to my phone

R0bR says:

Check the settings in your Xbox Music app, do you have the setting on to show your streaming music? If it is on try disabling then enabling the setting again. Give it some time in between the setting changes.

Dave_Arg says:

It was kinda weird

mans550 says:

I'm waiting for someone to say "seems faster" haha

Seems faker... :P

toyotast165 says:

Bluetooth keyboard support is the only thing I truly desire.

Starbane says:

Replying to a comment with an unrelated topic is all I desire.

HID is not supported

iAbhi says:

daily start background just like daily lockscreen background by bing 

and maybe a more smarter cortana 

ItsMcDiddles says:

You beat me to it.

Ohhhhh that would be awesome little extra

mike_msfan says:

Woow iAbhi... Thats a nice Idea... If i could add to it... A glance screen background with todays agenda would be awsome.. So the first glance at the phone in the morning has day laid out for me... Kudos iAbhi.. try to bring it on user voice I will vote for you..

farhanmariz says:

2G/3G/4G(LTE) switch in Action Center for me.

Yeah, that's one of those simple things that should be doable for a GDR update. Let's hope.

pampurio97 says:

I hope Nokia/MS Mobile will add it with Lumia Cyan. Can we hope? :)

Pranjal Rai says:

Okay, maybe there is a reason why Microsoft didn't allow this toggle on action centre if we think, about it deeply. If they had allowed mobile data toggle, under current settings, as we can pull down the action centre "partially" in the lockscreen, any third person would be able to do that on your phone right? If someone didn't have an active data pack, it would cause data charges on your phone thus reducing your balance. Microsoft had it carefully thought out.

ksbanderson says:

If someone didn't have a data package, they wouldn't choose data as one of their four toggles.

Pranjal Rai says:

You don't know how many dumb people are out there.

ksbanderson says:

It they really think it's a problem, they can set the default four toggles to not include data.

Pranjal Rai says:

Well one can keep the data toggle, if they don't use it all the time, but for short periods , or who shift between Wi-Fi and cellular frequently.

ksbanderson says:

Sounds like we're in agreement, then.

Pranjal Rai says:

Hmmm....I guess we are. My only point is that if someone had the cellular data option as toggle in the action centre, it would be really easy for someone else to toggle it on(and maybe off) causing data usage charges to the person concerned,

Mayur says:

Wrong logic, see how WiFi toggle works now, you need to put your password and unlock the phone in order to change it. Similar measures can be added to data toggle as well.

Pranjal Rai says:

You don't need password to turn it on, only for turning it off, as it takes you to the settings page for setting as and when we want to turn Wi-Fi back on (manually,...etc.)

Mayur says:

I know, but logic in case of data toggle should be other way around. Think about it...

Pranjal Rai says:

Then why would it be called action centre. Huh??

Mayur says:

I am really not sure what point you are trying to make? Do you?

Pranjal Rai says:

I can't explain the same thing over and over. Lets end this conversation right here.

Mayur says:

What exactly have you explained? Right, let's just end this conversation right here. I understand that english is not your first language.

Pranjal Rai says:

Heh.... Look who's talking...i understand that my English went over the top of your head and you're just trying to cover up the embarrassment by saying that. You couldn't be more vivid, could you?

Mayur says:

You just proved my point. I am born and bred in the UK, got degree in computer science from one of the top university in the country, I understand English very well. Thank you very much...

Pranjal Rai says:

Jeez, what a stuck up princess... Fine, I won't win this argument, against you cuz I don't like to see little girls crying. I give up.

Mayur says:

Play with your little girlfriends often?

Pranjal Rai says:

Atleast I've got one.

kingjah says:

Ha,Ha! Conversation ended too soon! LOL!

Pranjal Rai says:

I was not referring to Cortana, but oh well....