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Report: Microsoft and Nokia continue to test Windows Phone 8.1 internally

Microsoft and Nokia are actively testing Windows Phone 8.1, according to Nawzil. The two companies are running FB Pages Manager. Should you not familiar with the name, it essentially enables you to manage your Facebook profiles while on the move. What's interesting is the analytics behind the app, reporting on hardware running multiple builds of Windows Phone 8.1 (aka. Blue).

We've previously looked at Windows Phone 8.1 being internally tested by Microsoft and Nokia, reported by Paul Thurrott, but this data shows solid evidence of said tests being carried out. Both editions of FP Pages Manager (free and commercial) have been used on Windows Phone 8.1, with the following screenshot showing multiple versions of the OS:

WP 8.1 FB Pages Manager

According to the full analytics report, FB Pages Manager has been downloaded more than 80,000 times and has more than 30,000 monthly active users. Nawzil notes that these employees may well be using the apps to manage respective social profiles. 

Windows Phone 8.1 is expected to be announced early in 2014 to go alongside some new hardware from partners. It makes sense for the next major release of Windows Phone to be in active testing. Details are still scarce on what we'll be looking to see in 8.1, but a new Notification Center, ‘Cortana’ voice assistant, app-list sorting, actionable-notifications and other new features are reportedly on the list of major new additions.

Source: Twitter (@Nawzil)



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I'm so excited I want to puke!

As weird as this comment is, it's still better than "First."

Marco Enxuto says:

Ahahah so true! Lol

walter1832 says:

It looks like WPC has figured out how to block it.....I tried.

coldfilter says:

Above second...sorted

walter1832 says:

Primo to puke!!!

Dave Bhullar says:

Puke glittery rainbows

"Puke glittery rainbows"
Is that the name of the next update after "Black"?

Dave Bhullar says:

Lol I hope so, that would be cool.

MrSimmix says:

Any idea on when Lumia Black is going to be released?

VahiDJ says:

Same question here :| I eagerly anticipating Lumia Black on my 925

msualum says:

Nokia needs to have an enthusiast release like MS did for gdr3...

MrSimmix says:

I'm thinking we shouldn't have to wait for carriers, I mean look at the IOS7 release, no carries involved and most people updated within the week of the release and not months later.

And it sucked my brothers iPhone 4 slowed to a crawl

crazygonzo says:

iPhone 4 probably shouldn't have been updated at all, take a look at the hardware inside it (it's 3 years old).

FeedTheShark says:

Like every other iOS release before it, designed to kill 2 yr+ hardware and force you into feeling you need to buy a new iDevice.

thecanuckguy says:

That is why I left Apple world, because of that.  I would of rathered they not try to update at all than kill the performance.

he_shark says:

I know a few people who are still on iOS4 and iOS5 just for that reason. It's ridiculous, they release a phone and it's the best thing since sliced bread, so many innovations, faster, thinner, better and all that jazz in their marketing. Then a year later they release an update that makes it slow as mollases and feel outdated. You have to give Apple credit, it's a wonderful strategy and the fact most people happily and blindly update amazes me. Kudos to you for seeing through them and moving to WP where updates actually improve our devices and don't impact their speed (not that they could get any faster!). Hell even Android are working on making their phones faster (not that they could get slower).

QilleRz says:

Brilliant thinking dude !

WPmunkey says:

Apple is playing a different ballgame. They can use the popularity of the iPhone coupled with amazing customer service as leverage. The last thing a wireless carrier wants is to be inundated with calls after an update. At present they just say "call Apple" and the customer will be taken care of. MS and Nokia do not have that level of support currently.

MrSimmix says:

Ok your answer makes sense, thank you.

Robert Grant says:

Thank you also for correctly using the word leverage.

xpxp2002 says:

Sort of. Although I see people in AT&T (and other carriers) supporting iPhone customers quite often. It's more along the lines of "consumers want this thing and Apple has us backed into a corner, so we have to support it and do what they say whether we like it or not." While I normally criticize Apple for running roughshod over others like that, the carriers kinda had this coming to them. I feel just a little bit of vindication seeing them being dictated to, as opposed to how it usually is with carriers telling consumers, vendors, and just about everybody else in the industry how things are going to be.

Rick Smits says:

Possibly before years end.

wapoz says:

ALJFAKLSFKLJLKDJF JUST LET ME TEST IT OUT ON MY PHONE ALREADY!  Or at least give us some more official info :(

Coan says:

Probably not until they get gdr3 officially out the door...

zeronoise says:

Gdr3 is officially out the door...some HTC phones have already gotten it.

rodneyej says:

I hope they test the shiznit out if it because new features don't mean a thang if they ain't got that swang❕

wpguy says:

Do-wop do-wop. Do-wop do-wop. Do-wop do-wop. Do.

downup says:

Want for christmas!

I totaly agree. That would be awesome, all windows phone devices updated without warning, on december 25th.
Imagine the scene: You wake up on christmas morning, check your phone for the time, and "An update is available: Windows Phone 8.1". That would be sooo cool :D

Dezember 25th would be the ultimate proof of Microsoft considering America to be the center of the world.

Here in Germany, the update would need to come on the 24th and for most people sometime in the evening.


Anyway, how is "software company tests new software updates before rolling them out" news worthy? Microsoft isn't called Activision or Ubisoft.

damo579 says:

Looking forward to this. I think I'll hold on to my 920 until this is released.

Ben Sailors says:

Yeah I'm waiting for the "next Gen" of phones for sure. I truly love my 920. The red, weight, screen is just beautiful.

damo579 says:

My 920 is red also.

deeheff says:

+1! Red 920 Powa! :p

ilias82 says:

Shiny red 920 FTW! :-)

2tomtom says:

+920 shiny red :-)

pierrerv says:

I'll hold on to my 521 until then

Z10YkakPES says:

I was thinking the same way, until I cracked my screen on 920 :'(

apocacrux says:

Same here bro.

FeedTheShark says:

Ha I've had my 920 for a year, it's still great but I want a new toy. Might jump if a UK version of the rumoured 929 comes soon.

Antluv82 says:


can't wait :)

especially cortana and app-list-sorting

Jas00555 says:

Aren't Microsoft and Nokia not allowed to work together because of anti-trust laws?

poddie says:

I believe they aren't allowed to change how they work together based on the possibility of a merger. Doesn't mean they have to STOP working together in the ways they have been for years.

Jf.Vigor says:

I'm sure Samsung and HTC are testing it too

Stanvx says:

Hmm I hope not.. If they are I'm sure Samsung is already porting over the innovative features to their android phones!

txDrum says:

What... This doesn't even make the slightest bit of sense... Testing would have absolutely nothing to do with stealing ideas. And anyways, 8.1 is in a lot of ways playing catch up with some features of android and iOS. windows phone already has some stuff that's better, but they're also missing things the others have. 8.1 is about removing the feature differences, doing some things better, and letting windows phone's awesome features further stand out.

Even if it was supposed to implement something truly innovative and different that had never been remotely done before, testing would still have absolutely no bearing on whether Samsung was able to "copy" it.

kullkid92x says:

Nailed it.

It is actually amazing if they really have been in testing mode, seeing as how they wont release it till Q1 2014 that is a lot of testing time, assuming all features have been finalized/implemented that first release of WP 8.1 should be very solid/stable.

FeedTheShark says:

While I don't think the comment you commented on made much sense, yours didn't either. How does Samsung testing it mean they cannot steal ideas? They see what it does during testing, like something and put it into TouchMyWiz. But on the whole Samsung are going a very different route with Android and I don't see them taking anything from WP and putting it into their Android phones.

LOL @ FeedTheShark...."TouchMyWiz"

MikeSo says:

In addition to those things mentioned in the article, I hope for an Xbox Music upgrade, preferably with optional Facebook integration. Add a simple kind of file explorer, and with Update 3 (which my phone is running) and I'm happy. :)

ikissfutebol says:

I would imagine they will take a look at weaker apps, similar to the improvements from 8 - 8.1 with Windows.

I wonder, how many years and releases Microsoft need to turn WP in to normal phone? Hint: Separate volume for call and games.

damo579 says:

I think this is in update 3.

BK-one says:

I have update 3 and that is not a feature.

Duduosf says:

So probably in WP 8.1??

The first GDR after it...late summer perhaps?

No its not on update 3, hope it comes with 8.1

Coan says:

I'm guessing you mean Lumia update 3, since its not part of gdr3

This is an OS feature, not Lumia specific

Westoncreg says:

They never will, they deem it unsuitable for a seamless software experience

DJCBS says:

Whomever thinks that in MS is clearly stupid...

Jf.Vigor says:

I don't rly have a problem with the current implementation so I don't see them as stupid

em1ke says:

Slow but not stupid.

crazygonzo says:

Normal phone ? By that time, Android will be lightyears ahead and Microsoft will be declaring bankruptcy :)

This is partly due to game developers. There are a few games out there that have their own controls for volume level, which means any developer can do it if they want.

broar94 says:

Wat if you were listening to music at full volume because your song is originally low-volume, and suddenly your phone is very lpid because it just started ringing.. U will have to reduce the volume before going anywhere otherwise you'll get looks.

that's why i said partly due, i know it doesn't completely fix the problem but it helps in many cases.

faalil says:

it should be @Nawzil8 not @Nawzil

Risvall says:

Just give me an option to disable "search" and "back" buttons and ill be happy. Frustrating when gaming! /// A wish for the upcoming update

BK-one says:

That would a huge welcome update.

Ben Sailors says:

I agree, the option would be fantastic! Especially for games that have to go through the loading screen everytime you accidently hit back!

plugfire says:

Add your game in kid's corner and play from the kid's corner. The search button won't work there.

BK-one says:

It would be awesome to get 8.1 early for us "developers" like we did with the update 3 a few weeks ago. I'm not scared to have test release on my phone.

Ticomfreak says:

They're going to do this, it's just not even close to being finished.

Right now 8.1 is probably barely usable.

Either that, or they don't want to give the competition any ideas.

OMG55 says:

I'm not even a developer and I'm not afraid; I update my device to GDR3 as soon as the OTA was released and will do it again.

GDR 3 was RTM level - WP8.1 not even Beta 1

Iain_S says:

8.1 is much further along than you think, MS's new thing is being very hush hush on software and releases.

FeedTheShark says:

None of us know. But Update 3 was released because Nokia are releasing new phones with it. There's no way MS will release 8.1 to testing until there's new hardware running it. They need it to come out with a bang, not slowly test features on existing hardware.

kullkid92x says:

Yes, that is exactly what I was talking about in another comment above. I would not doubt it if all features have been finalized already by different groups, and now its just bringing it together (they do this with windows) so its just vigorous testing from now on, Which is why Nokia is already seeing some of these releases and testing them. I do not believe MS would show Nokia earlier code than a Technical Preview, which is a stage a tad bit ahead of Beta usually keeping some parts of the software in Beta but most features are designed, coded and tested through. All that is needed form there is vigorous functionality testing of those features.

Niavlys77 says:

Really can't wait for this update!

sanshiro says:

I'm waiting for the successor of the 1020, hopefully around Summer and sporting a 1080p screen and quad-core. 'Til then I'll hold onto my 920. 

Your wish may be granted... :-)

Ben Sailors says:

I'm truly looking forward to Cortana and notifications. Better Bing results would be nice too. They're often old and irrelevant. More clarity in results and IE not clipping pictures in articles would be very nice indeed.

"early 2014"... Hahahahahahahaha
Keep dreaming...

12Danny123 says:

we may never know ;-)

ZX9 says:

June is early, right?

MikeSo says:

Yup. And if you're 24, 34, etc, you're in your "early" twenties and thirties.

Eearly 2014 = Announcing it in March that it will be in beta until July at which time it will RTM by August and ready for official release September 28th ...along side Windows 9 and branded as Windows Phone 9

ZX9 says:

Windows 9 is not coming September 2014... So I doubt that it will be WP9.

Lumia Black is coming in Jan 2014

ZX9 says:

This is coming to current WP8 hardware, right?

poiman says:

Yes. But some features may be absent if they need spacial hardware that current phones don't have. Just a possibility, no one knows right now.

FeedTheShark says:

Yeah the spacial features work in another dimension.

ZX9 says:

^Dat Nokia futuristic tech. Xp

Rem97 says:

That image has become the trademark of WP8.1 news.

Cortana... Oooooh, sexy lexicon. Excited.

xmarklive says:

As a three year old WP user... I'm thinking slow fukkers

txDrum says:

Windows phone is actually receiving updates more quickly than either of the other big two. Android has had two updates I think? 4.3 and 4.4, while iOS has had one, to iOS7, in the time that we have gone from 7 to 8 to GDR1,2,3. The only reason it seems so slow is because we were far behind in feature parity to begin with.

geoken says:

What period of time are you talking about? From the release of WP8? 

When WP8 was released iOS had a big update just a month earlier with about 5 minor (eg GDR type updates) until receiving a major update with iOS7.

Android say 4.2, 4.3 and 4.4 all release in that time.

FeedTheShark says:

Released, but so few people have actually received it. I'd say despite the fact it's still on the 4 release Google have put more into Android than Apple with iOS 7 which is really more skinning than new features. Not sure why Google do point releases for Android whereas Chrome gets a new major release every second week; but i've given up trying to understand Google.

WP was supposedly way behind feature wise, but 8 and the 3 GDRs have put it in a place where it is highly competitive with the big two. Sure there's a lot of features people want that haven't made it yet, but nothing that stops people from enjoying their phones. Let's hope 8.1 fills all the gaps, if it does then I think we will all forgive MS this relative slowness.

Winnabe says:

So, you're a three year old using WP. That's actually cool!

xmarklive says:

Since WP 7 geniuses...

This makes me wonder if I should hold out on buying 1520, and wait for other hardware? My 920 is still strong. Any one else having the same thoughts?

mondokjm says:

I too have a 920 and I went to AT&T to play with the 1520. While I think a phone that large is absolutely ridiculous, I couldn't help but smile and have a great time while messing around with it. Its a really great device and I'll have a tough time fighting off the urge to buy it.

snowmutt says:

The 1520 and the ever so rumored but not announced 929 should be a no brained. Honestly, the hardware will not get any better over the next few months. They will certainly get all the 8.1 goodies. I say buy if you like them, no worries.

txDrum says:

Qualcomm won't be releasing S800 successor until at least June. Then it would take longer to be implemented. I wouldn't wait if you were looking to buy one. I'm holding on to my 928 for another year though.

Thanks for your input guys, I will be waiting for an international version in any case, I guess I'm one of the strange ones who really want wireless charging without the shell.

CobraJ82 says:

Holding on my red 920 and awaiting the first WP8.1 Lumia flagship.

Sean Lee1 says:

I can't wait, but I wish this update would come sooner.  It would be nice to get it around the holidays rather than some time early next year.

IzaacJ says:

Well, it seems I won't get black until early next year either. Nokia Sweden refuses to give any kind of information about release dates for unlocked, non-branded phones. Since its not going through the provider we should get it first hand :(

Iain_S says:

isnt black included on the 1520??? which is set to be released on November 22nd, why are we thinking it wont be out till 2014?

awneze says:

Notifications center. Universal search. Fully featured music player with playlist creation and customization, better call log system, smart dialing, file explorer system, better multitasking and management of background tasks, better power management system, transparent tiles, support to change background image in start screen and app list, make live tiles even more LIVE, multiple volume control system instead of universal, support to side load apps (long shot), better PC sync software (tho not wp8.1 related), music player change Bluetooth name from phone, better Facebook messages sync across devices, better everything!!!! They batter be working on all this and much much more for wp8.1

LP Slade says:

Agree with everything and add Instagram integration in the same way Facebook, Twitter, etc. are integrated.

dotcompt says:

We are talking about Microsoft. You are asking too much.

ikissfutebol says:

Stated like someone that wasn't using Windows 8 and now uses Windows 8.1. I wouldn't be surprised if that list is just the start.

em1ke says:

+ multiple attachments in emails
+ games saves backup
+ battery percentage at the status bar
+ quick settings
+ bed time mode


snowmutt says:

I ..... Just drooled a little. Right down my chin....

What a nice list. Would keep me giggling....

Hey! Where did you get that secret internal document page 11?

ImSoWade says:

I agree with everything except adding backgrounds to the start screen....that would be pretty ugly imo

Nawzil says:

Windows Phone 8.1 will be released in Q2 2014.

In the last day, in the last hour of Q2, as MS always do... :/

Released in April, fool! May deployment be on May! Maybe?

Better app switching 2.!
Right now switching to previous app is terribly slow!

ariez84 says:

Who here actually think this is not true? I mean its not liek MS is NOT testing Windows 8.1......

BK-one says:

Agreed, I'm sure 9 and phone 9 are in some sort of development phase.

Iain_S says:

yes for sure both of these are in development right now, 8.1 is much further along than most think.

They are. The UI libraries will be also unified

brendonlee says:

Isn't this post kind of obvious? Just like Apple would test new versions of iOS internally, as would Google with Android?

BadIntentVG says:

Yes, it is incredibly obvious. It's only news because WP8 users (myself included) are starved out of their minds for any sort of news for the long awaited big update to the platform.

Can't wait to install them

I hope they fix all my issues. I am sick and tired of these accelerometer issues on my 920. I just came across this article on some blog. It's a must read. It opened my eyes on how much Windows Phone is still living under a rock.

and this one

DennisvdG says:

Wow the author of that article is a biased D-bag

ikissfutebol says:

Hey Rich! Any word on improvements to perhaps the truly biggest issue with Windows Phone 8- syncing our phones with the computer? I mean, I realize there is no going back to Zune since they killed the marketplace. Any word on having music syncing (and management) that actually works as easily? Perhaps a merge of XBox Music and the current solution? One of the best parts of Zune was the fact it, like iTunes, handles your music syncing AND gives you access to a music market place. For the Windows Phone 8 folks that do not have Windows 8/8.1, perhaps that would be incentive to upgrade?

ejlee072006 says:

Im waiting for this..
Is the 1520 8.1?

It will certainly be in 2014Q2

hacer619 says:

What about wp7.9?
No love for wp7:(

Nope! But there's a Charlie Brown's change of getting WP8.9 ;-)

schlubadub says:

Sorry dude... 7.8 is the last update for WP7

S Vaibhav says:

Maybe wp7.8.1 ?

I'm expecting so much out of this Cortana assistant. I really hope it doesn't disappoint...

Nakazul says:

While cortana sounds nice, lack of language support kills my enthusiasm. (yes, I expect it to be as bad as MSFT products tend to be on these things)

English and Spanish

Spicymikey says:

So much is needed.  Everyone has their sense of priorties, but one thing WP8.1 definitely needs is a much more robust app list view when you swipe from the right.   Both the Live Tile and alphabetical app list are fine when you have a small number of apps installed.  But when you get into the 30+ range both sides break down.   30 live tiles results in pages and pages of scrolling.   Same goes for the app list and the danger of simply forgetting what the damn app was called.    I loved the folder concept on my old iPhone but that's not critical if they would simply give us the ability to create categories and assign apps to those categories ourselves.   Subcategories would be great too.  Now you have a drillable list to quickly find the app you want.  

30 live tiles is two pages on a Lumia 1520 (or 1320)
A new user was able to quickly go to an app using the alphabet "subcategories" with over 400 apps installed on a Lumia 920

Spicymikey says:

Come on, don't try and tell everyone a simple straight alphabet list of all your apps is adequate :)    Let's not defend or embrace the shortcomings.  Lets call them out on it and demand better. 

I didn't say that and I also like to see filters, tabs, sorting by, name, size, install date, publisher, type, rating, owner made category, regular expression, etc, etc

schlubadub says:

That's already been announced...

Spicymikey says:

What has?   Links?

Spicymikey says:

No problem.  Wasnt sure if you knew something i didn't.  I've seen this rumor.  It's really not adequate.   They need to give people the ability to organize their apps in self described categories for easy access.   Sorting by most recently used is actually of little value when you're trying to find that app you don't use often.  

So what was that App called again?   MyCalendar, GreatCalendar, SimpleCalender, FoobarCalendar?   See the problem?   User needs a mechanism to create groupings, folders, hubs, etc..  Without it the OS is seriously inadequate regardless of any other issues.


schlubadub says:

Yeah, I totally agree - that's why I was super excited at that rumour. If you read that article I linked closely, it does say "Users can organise the list by name, frequency of use, category or date installed". The most important one being the category field - so it's not just by recently used etc.

Whenever I suggested it people in the past they would say "pin it to your start screen and group/organise them there" but I don't think it's an effective solution to pin rarely-used apps to the screen just to make it easier to find in the future. What you're suggesting is close to what others (including myself) have suggested before, and I'm truly hoping the rumour proves to be true!

Spicymikey says:

I see what you are saying.  You are assuming its going to be like iOS and user definable and labeled folders.   I hope you are right, but when I read that description I took "Category" to mean predefined categories defined by Windows.   It sounds like they are simply planning to push the Windows 8.1 changes from the app list down to WP8.1.  In W8.1  You can now sort the app list by category but you don't get to pick the categories.  It's based on how the developer categorized the app when they submitted it to the store.  Turns out to be almost useless.  

schlubadub says:

Man... now I'm second-guessing what they mean by "Category". I truly hope it's user-definable! I often group unrelated items together. For example I might have a"Travel" category that would include mapping, translators, compasses and perhaps photography apps (i.e. for panoramas). Not necessarily all of the same type of things lumped together.

I guess even something like the Windows 8 start screen would be okay, where you can put different apps together and put a label on them.

This makes me happy then all they need to improve is file management music playlist stopping music and finish off integration for windows 8 improve the app store if they don't improve that in WP 8.1! Then from there is should be up keep improving a little more working on windows 9 keep improving Xbox and work on Bing so they don't have to sell it add features and more functionality like a dedicated shopping category witch is really use full in Google! So basically it just keeps getting better after this at a good rate so just windows 9 and Bing get Bing worked on so they don't have to worry about it hey should take a little longer with windows 9 and release both Binge upgrades and they good I hope elop doesn't sell Bing and Xbox I like both! Keep improving do more research and promoting!

keagohopper says:

Does anyone know if this will run on WP 8.0 devices? Certain sources say it probably won't.

Rem97 says:

Them sources have little credibility on the matter. Wait until WPC reports it, then it's official. Until then, all WP8 devices are expected to get 8.1.

schlubadub says:

I think a lot of people would jump ship if they screw us on the updates again, especially bitter WP7 users

vk1971 says:

+ Ability to update OS or download large apps "over the usb-cable" too (not only OTA)

+ Ability to use custom background (lock screen images) with lock screen (gosh!) notifications (weather etc)

I need these. Do you?

ronijs19 says:

You can do this things alredy.

keagohopper says:

Will WP ever be able to store apps on the actual micro SD card, instead of having to side load, which is useless really because you are still downloading them onto your phone. Notification and a personal assistant will be AWESOME!!!

+1 google

I know it's ironic but look where the name "google" comes from :P

vk1971 says:



leoberto says:

I have a bad feeling that 512 MB RAM devices wont make the cut :'(

Rem97 says:

Why not? iPhone 4 and 4S have 512MB RAM and they still got and run iOS7 smoothly. I'm sure MS will make sure that WP8.1 will run on low end Windows Phones also. The 520 is the most popular Windows Phone (by the numbers at least), so I'm sure MS aren't going to neglect 520 owners.

crazygonzo says:

They will, it'll be a moment of truth for the platform. They promised 18 month support & updates for every WP8 device and after that Windows 7.5 fiasco it's the real test. But since they're pushing the release date I'm starting to get worried it's the only serious update they'll release, Blue was supposed to be available this year while 2014 was to bring a second major update.

Yeah .. I have the same feeling :-(

Expect less apps hanging around in the RAM, otherwise: yes

Bee Mon says:

Apps running on < 1MB Windows Phone can use only up to 180MB anyway so I'm sure the there's enough room left for 8.1 except that apps may get tombstoned more often when you switch between them. However since this will still somewhat impact the user experience on the 512MB device, I won't disregard the chance that Microsoft may still decide not to upgrade them. We'll just have to wait as see. However 512MB devices represent the largest Windows Phone base at the moment and Microsoft should be wary of pissing off the majority of WP users but I wouldn't put it pass them as it's not the first time in the last few years they made some awful decisions.

crazygonzo says:

Hahaha, no update for devices with 512 RAM would mean Game Over for Microsoft. Not gonna happen. They have never been known for fast quality software updates in the past but I'm starting to question if they can exist in this world (annual free system update is almost mandatory now).

Today Windows 8 situation is insane, every WP8 user is a casual smartphone user (and even casual users like to have more functionality and apps available, even if they don't use them, 'just in case'), let's hope 8.1 will get serious.

ChrisUCL says:

My most wanted features are a week view for calendar, separate volume for alarms/calls/media and the ability to charge while the phone is turned off but still have the alarm work. Also next alarm time to appear on glance screen and small live tile. Its basic functionality that even old Nokia Symbian phones from more than ten years ago had and it annoys me to no end that they are not on WP even after two years with the system (Lumia 800/920). Anyone know if those are coming?

crazygonzo says:

Microsoft and Nokia really need this Windows 8 update ASAP. I was really surprised that their system doesn't get the attention UNTIL I've bought a Lumia 720, there's so much stuff missing right now that I'm thinking WP8 really wasn't finished at all. Why they thought this could compete is beyond me, the only explanation is that they were targeting first time smartphone buyers and unexperienced budget users without expectations. 

R0bR says:

I would hardly call Apple customer service amazing, I had nothing but issues with them causing me to dump my iPod & 3GS and move on to Microsoft. My experience with the Microsoft Store for support has been stellar.

Edit: ah crap, forgot to reply to someone, lol.

wangsa86 says:

Would be great if current High end lumias starting from
Lumia 920 and so on to get WP 8.1 update.

sunco says:

I got this on my apps..

May 3 - 8.10.12078.0 (this is the first 8.10.* I got)


October 30 - 8.10.12222.0

November 7 - 8.10.12234.0

November 8 - 8.10.12236.0

All with "Microsoft - XDeviceEmulator"

DennisvdG says:

Yep there's no doubt they're testing 8.1, what apps did you make? :)

This tells me that there is a Emulator build, some one should leak it ;)

irsyadhhs says:

Can the current lumia upgrade to wp8.1? The rumour said no

untitled007 says:

They should, if they failed their consumers again, im will not buy their products again

Current Gen should be upgradeable all the way to wp9.

Fayez Chedid says:

You misspelled the second FB pages manager

untitled007 says:

Hope the notification will be accesible universal, i mean with one swipe it will take you to all notification center wherever part you are in the phone,like when when playing games

lubbalots says:

Its gonna end up being a tile. Your gonna have to pause your game to get to home screen and access it.