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Snes8x, VBA8, and VGBC8 once again available, for free on the Windows Phone Store

We just reported on three emulators being removed from the Windows Phone Store, but now we're pleased to relay news that the apps are once again available. Developed by M.k, Snes8x (Super Nintendo), VBA8 (GameBoy Advance), and VGBC8 (GameBoy Color) were spotted to be M.I.A and immediate reaction led to speculation that Microsoft had started cracking down on emulator apps. 

We learnt that develop M.k actually voluntarily pulled his own emulators from the store and failed to renew his developer account. We're not entirely sure why this occurred, but we're sure many fans will be pleased to see his work be made available once again. It's an added bonus that all three are listed for free.

You can download Snes8x, VBA8 and VGBC8 from the Windows Phone Store (all three require Windows Phone 8).

via: Plaffo

QR: Snes8x     QR: VBA8

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Snes8x, VBA8, and VGBC8 once again available, for free on the Windows Phone Store

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keeping the XAP's is useless if the App is removed from the store. Once an App is removed, the .xap file will lead you to the store and tell you "the app is no longer published".
I've had that experience with another app in the past. I still have the .xap but it's useless since you can't do anything with it.

Yep, I tried to save the older (good) version of YouTube, but you cannot install xaps unless connected to internet, and they can't be installed if they aren't verified through the store.

It's not a true side load. It's still useful in keeping down the "other" storage though (xap is extracted from SD to nand, rather than xap on nand extracted to nand) and saving on network usage after a reset.

I've still got the older YouTube on my phone somehow.. Not complaining but its not even asked me to update it :P

Yes. What the .xap does is lead you to the store so you can download the App. If the app isn't in the store anymore, you won't be able to download it. 

What a beauty! Had already bought VBA8 but ive been thinking about getting VGBC8, these are a steal for free
Hours of fun, thank you m.k.!

Great news as M.K's snes emu is one of the best i have ever used.

Another note, is there a genesis/megadrive emu available for WP, need my SoR2 fix.

Soooo.what was the first post all about?? If he no longer has a dev account, how did he republish them? Seems like the first post could have used more research before going live.

More research? We spoke with him directly for that article. He either reversed his position by un-hiding the apps and making them free as a gesture to the community or Microsoft made them free so that people who paid for them could still get access.

Actually, I'm not sure if Microsoft wasn't the one who put them back.

I've contacted the developer and he said he had to remove them for personal reasons that he couldn't talk about (these excuses always cry "BS" to me...).
I've also contacted WPsupport with a complaint and they told me to contact either the developer or their support team. So I suggest everyone who, like me, was dumb enough to pay for the App, to contact Microsoft and try a refund.

So get this while you can but don't hold your breath for the Apps staying much longer...

How can you dismiss someone stating personal issues as BS? Sometimes shit happens that can lead to reprioritising. Just because it doesn't fit with what you want doesn't make it BS.

I didn't say *his* excuse was BS. I said these kind of excuses always cry BS to me. 'cause they're the most vague, uncompromising and easily-get-away-with-it excuses there are. "personal reasons" can be anything. From the death of a family member to the simple unwillingness to keep developing for the platform. And honestly, based on the article posted by WPCentral and the vague answer...I think "personal reasons" are simply "I don't want to develop for WP anymore 'cause I don't make enough money on it".

There are actually a lot of reasons why someone would have to do this. Off the top of my head, a couple come to mind that are sensible. 1) if you get laid off of your full time employment and try to collect unemployment, you could be automatically disqualified because you would be considered self employed. 2) It could interfere with getting a new job. Some employers feel that you will be more focused with the apps vs your work. 3) Bankruptcy, there could be issues with the income or even holding the copyright of the programs that could set him over the threshold of say a chapter 7 no assets.(I am trying to explain that short and sweet so people get the gist of the idea there are a lot of other reasons in a bankruptcy.)

Why? The project is done, as far as I can see it.
If it's anything like the one of Windows RT / 8, then it works perfectly. He added features for about 6 months, and now he's done.

 

I knew of that site but this is my first time trying to do this on a windows phone. Thats why.

Emulators? Or roms? Two separate things, both required to use each other. Its a symbiotic relationship. Also to answer your question, Bing it!

Technically, he's not doing anything illegal. The only think they could do is demand that he didn't mentioned the named "Game Boy" etc. Since he doesn't provide any of the games, there's nothing illegal.

This is the same as the torrent sites and cloud services etc. If an emulator is illegal, then Microsoft would also be doing illegal stuff by providing people with Windows. Because Windows can be used for illegal things. And car manufacturers too. 'cause cars can be used to kill people, help on assaults etc.

Shallow understanding of how law works. In short emulators and torrent sites CAN be shut down via common law which is why all the torrent cases has been so important. The rest of the text just basically says "it's complicated."
If Emulators aren't legislated (ie. there is no specific law regarding roms/emulators) then the decision will fall to common law or case law. I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if this is legislated or not.
In common law a judge will determine the decision based on the facts of the case. One of the driving factors in many cases is the purpose (TV calls it motive - more criminal law type cases). So in your examples the judge might ask "what is the purpose of a car." IF the intent of the manufacturer was to build car specifically for drive by shootings it could be considered unlawful. Though common sense says this isn't the case for cars.
Emulators are a grey area. What is the purpose of building an emulator? Was it an educational thing - a study on virtualisation? Was it built by someone purely out of interest and provided to the public innocently? Or was it built specifically to circumvent the need to purchase games? Since older games cannot be purchased or only purchased second hand it can be harder to argue that piracy is the main intent.
Though common law is rarely simple or straight forward - for instance, could you argue that since VBA8 was being sold that it is built expressly to facilitate piracy? Or perhaps you could say that VBA8 only serves one purpose - to play pirated video games - since it is not provided as an open source tool.
And on and on and on it goes. You get the idea.

I actually have a degree AND a Masters Degree in Law. So I think I know better than you what I'm talking about ;)
However, note that I do work with European law. Which isn't the same as USA law (what NSA is doing? They would NEVER get away with that in Europe). What you described is pretty much the discretionary way the American legal system works. 

However, no, in Europe (and other countries around the World who where influenced by the European judicial system) these emulators can NOT be shut down via common law. 
First and foremost because, apart from the United Kingdom (which works similarly to the USA) in Europe judges don't have the freedom to use "common law" as in the USA/UK. Their decisions aren't law and can't be used as a precedent. We have Legal Codes (think about the US Code but divided and extended by legal area - crime law, civil law, commercial law, copyright law, etc etc etc) where all the rules are written before hand. All the judge has to do is evaluate the facts presented and apply one or more rules from the appropriate code (which is also why it's very rare to have a jury in an European Court. Law & Order's portrayal of the judicial system does not apply to Europe). 
You can NOT shut things down just because you think they can be potentially used for crime, specially when there's no regulations. And you can't regulate everything otherwise the system will not work. That is why the only rules regarding software are directed at two main issues: protection of personal data and prevention of cyber crime. You then have the copyright laws but those aren't standardized in Europe. However it is standard that you can only violate a copyright law if you directly "attack" the right of another.
So, in the case of emulators, they aren't attacking anything. You can freely build them for whatever reason you wish. However, if you use the emulator to infringe on another's copyright, then you get the penalty. Not because of the emulator but because of the thing you put in it. Same applies with basically anything, really. For example: you can use Windows Media Player to do whatever you wish. If you use it for copying CDs that you will then sell, you're infringing copyrights. Not because you're using WMP, but because you're copying CDs.
You can get a car and use it for whatever you wish (driving, having sex, to serve as a storage facility). However, if you use it to assault a bank, you're committing a crime. The crime is not using the car, is robbing the bank.
If you decide to produce and sell drugs, you're not being punished for having the machines. You're punished for the use you're giving to them.

As for the emulators, the same applies. The problem is not the emulators, it's the ROMs you put in it. However, because this is a matter of copyright, the discussion lies in your right (or not) to have certain ROMs. Not in your right to have an emulator in which they can be used. Imagine you have a GameBoy and you own a certain amount of games. However, your GameBoy is broken and Nintendo doesn't fix it anymore. Since you own that copy of the game the question is: do you have the right to emulate in a new platform that game you own because the original no longer works and the original platform is gone? Most European courts will tell you "yes" you have the right to do that. They will, however, frown upon the selling of ROMs. You can not make a profit from them because in that case you're profiting from another persons work. And this is also what applies with the cases of music etc. In many countries it is not a crime to share your music and films through the web as long as you're not profiting from it. 
This is why things like The Pirate Bay are still around. First they are only providing a service which *can* be used for piracy but doesn't mean it *has to* be used for that. It's the same as the MegaUpload case. In Europe, MegaUpload would have NEVER been closed. Because the crimes for which the USA accuse them regarding copyright aren't crimes.
Just like the music and film industry, the gaming industry would have a really hard time fighting these ROMs of old games, because they have very little legal base to sustain their claims on. And in some cases, they have absolutely no basis because the games have fallen into the public domain.

Are you sure of that ? Can you share your music ? Odd. And that no profit thing as a free card maybe it's a new thing, since I had to pay, an albeit symbolic (though it took quite a bit of work) fee to get a permision to run a free film festival in Lisbon. Maybe there's something of wishfull thinking in your comment, though admitidly I do not have a "Masters" in law, just a simple systems engineer.

In the law, "piracy" is defined as the act of reproducing and profiting from another person's work. So it is arguable that you can share your music with your friends, just like you did in the old days with cassettes, because you're not profiting from anything. That's why you seldom see anyone punished for sharing music, but you do see the action against street sellers who sell copies of films etc. It's a really really grey area. That's why they're still trying to find solutions for digital content to be freely shared between you and your friends. That's why there was such an uproar against those ridicule DRM policies Microsoft tried to put on XboxOne.

As for the non-profit, there's a difference. A film festival - free or not - consists in the public broadcast of material. You do have to pay copyright fees for that. If you had charged for the tickets, that fee would be much higher because the authors would have to receive royalties from each ticket.

Wait what country are you referring to? You mention common law(assuming you are talking about the US where most states derive from English common law--except I believe Louisiana which is derived from Napoleonic code). Common law may not be 100% straight forward, but may I ask, what doctrine are you referencing that brings you to this conclusion?

I certainly hope that MS are not stopping apps like torrents and emulators. The day that happens, I'll jump ship (if).

Do you guys recommend an in-game save or a save state for your games? It's the little things that drive me insane.