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Put your rumormonger hats on with us for a moment, although the big reveal of what we're thinking is already clear from the headline.

  1. As noted in the NYT article we referenced earlier, Palm Exec John Rubenstein cancelled some Treos not too long ago.
  2. The Treo Pro looks nothing like the Treo 800w
  3. The Treo Pro has a battery that's nothing like batteries Palm has used in the past. In fact, it looks an awful lot like the battery on the HTC Mogul. See a good image of the Treo Pro Battery here, and the HTC Mogul Battery here. They're not identical (the leads are in different places), but they're the same basic shape, mAh, and even have the same indentations.
  4. The Treo Pro sports the HTC Task Manager on the Today Screen.

Palm hasn't said who actually manufactures (the ODM) the Treo Pro, but the question we're aiming for here is who was primarily responsible for the "Thoughtful Design of the Treo Pro?" Could it be that the Treo that Rubenstein cancelled was the original Treo 850? If he did, how did Palm design the Treo Pro so quickly afterwards?

Our guess, if you haven't gathered yet: there was must have been some collaboration on design between Palm and HTC. There are still Palm touches aplenty here -- the Centro keyboard, Ringer Switch, and WiFi button prove that. On the other hand, we have an HTC-esque power button, battery, and let's be honest here: HTC's been able to design the innards in such a way as to make thin phones in a way that Palm just hasn't.

So we kinda sorta a wee-little-bit suspect that, hardware-wise, the Treo Pro is Palm on the outside, HTC on the inside.

Crazy? Crazy like a fox.

Update: Yep, HTC is indeed the ODM for the Treo Pro [via]. Sounds like another piece of confirming evidence about the design of the Treo Pro. That leaves only one question hanging out there -- what exactly did Palm order 5 million of from Compal>

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Not that this is a huge surprise exactly what with all the leaked info from the past, but it sure looks like Sprint is getting ready to launch this in September for $299.99 (after MIR; MSRP is $549.99).

Nothing too shocking here, though the mention of Sprint's much derided MMS alternative (PictureMail) seems to be supported, though we wonder if this is the big update we've all be awaiting? Probably not.

via EngadgetMobile

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And now for a little non-Treo Pro news ...

Chris over at Mobile Tech Addicts in the U.K. notes that the HTC Touch Pro has appeared on Vodaphone's business Web site, with a launch date in August, which is most assuredly winding down.

Add to that the appearance last week of some cryptic "HTC Fuze" sites, possibly alluding to the stateside AT&T launch, and it looks like we all might finally get to stop writing about the Touch Pro, and finally get down to using the bloody thing.

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For your consideration: Above, we have the HTC Touch Diamond and the, well, HTC Touch Diamond.

Static over at HowardForums has posted a series of photos showing the GSM version of the Touch Diamond atop its CDMA cousin, currently offered by Canadian carrier Telus.

While the Telus version is obviously thicker, Static notes that with the flat back it's more comfortable to hold, and it's not nearly the fingerprint magnet that Dieter showed us in his hands-on video.

This should give folks here in the U.S. a pretty good look at what's in store in a few weeks, when the "Victorized" CDMA version of the Diamond is expected to drop on Sprint.

Check out the rest of the comparison photos at HowardForums.

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Tracy and Matt unbox the Touch Pro

We're still awaiting HTC's latest and greatest here in the states, but over in the U.K., Tracy and Matt have found themselves in possession of a Touch Pro, and they're giving us plenty of unboxing goodness of the keyboarded cousin of the Touch Diamond.

Their initial thoughts:

The Touch Pro is an extremely nice device, the screen seems to be more sensitive than the Touch Diamond and it looks like HTC have spent the extra time with the Pro refining a few things. The TouchFlo3D interface seems more fluid and that QWERTY keyboard it great.

They're also offering up some pics of the Touch Pro alongside the Diamond, and all we can say is Touch Pro=Whoa - hope you've been working out.

Update: Chris from Mobile Tech Addicts also gives the Touch Pro a thorough run-through and deems it a solid performer, having learned from the less than stellar Diamond launch.

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Sprint customers who have been waiting patiently for a CDMA version of the HTC Touch Dual to be released (hopefully still in early September) will have to look longingly at their Canadian friends for a few more weeks.

Bell Mobility has the the Touch Dual for just $99 with a three-year contract, including "fun bundle" discount (!). A two-year deal runs $249, and no contract takes the phone up to $399.

Now if we could just hurry up with the U.S. launch of the Touch Diamond ...

(And for a video review of the Touch Dual - albeit the GSM  version - check out Dieter's hands on.)

Via Engadget Mobile

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Big ups to HTC, they've taken their ROM download section out of their e-Club and placed them directly in their support section! Just click on your device, click on “Software downloads,” and then go to town. PocketPC Thoughts notes (correctly) that you'll still need a serial number in order to get the download.

The e-Club isn't going away, though. HTC will be putting up all sorts of free downloads there for their registered members. Up now - a heapin' helpin' of ringtones.

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Rut ro, Raggy. Looks like things in the Android camp are slowing down even further.

Barron's [via Giz] has it from a Global Equities Research analyst that there aren't enough developers working on Google's open-source mobile OS, and that an already rumored delay of the first Android handset may be pushed back till sometime in the first quarter of next year.

It seems there are too many people who want to work on established operating systems, including Windows Mobile.

Android, “is not able to attract enough developers because toolkits offered by Microsoft (MSFT), Apple (AAPL), Research in Motion (RIMM), and Nokia’s (NOK) Symbian software group, have sucked up software developers’ attention.

The Barron's blog also mentions that HTC is dragging its feet some on the hardware side, "demanding a guaranteed minimum revenue surety from Google."

A company not having unlimited resources to throw at a project? That must sound downright alien to Google.

Update: electronista reports that HTC denies the delay and says they're still on track for a Fall 2008 release.

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PC World reports this morning that everyone's favorite device manufacturer HTC is on pace to have sold 1 million Touch Diamonds by the middle of this month, and that it "is definitely able to reach its goal of shipping 2 million Touch Diamond handsets by the end of 2008."

And as if that weren't enough:

However, sources at the Taiwan handset industry speculated that HTC will eventually revise upward its shipping target for this year, and that HTC is likely to ship 2.5 to 3 million Touch Diamond handsets before the end of the year.

That said, as Dieter and Mal pointed out in their latest podcast, saying you've sold a million or so "units" doesn't necessarily mean that there are a million people walking around with Touch Diamonds. But, the Diamond's numbers are hardly anything to sneeze at, and we still have a little while longer before it's even released in the U.S

By comparison, Palm recently announced it had shipped 2 million Centros, and the iPhone 3G sold 1 million units in its first three days.

Via MoDaCo

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The HTC Touch Diamond is coming to Sprint. We know this. We've just been waiting to find out when.

But those of you/us who have been patiently waiting to get your hands on an honest-to-goodness U.S. version may not have to wait much longer.

A Bloomberg article (via Engadget Mobile) notes in its final sentence that HTC "will begin selling the handset through Sprint Nextel Corp. in August."

Why, that's this month! Engadget Mobile also has reports that both Best Buy and Radio Shack are getting the Diamond in this month -- Best Buy on the 17th and Radio Shack on Sept. 2nd.

Other questions remain. Will it have the multi-faced "Diamond" back? We'll see. Pricing? Remember that Canada's Telus is offering the Touch Diamond for $149. That's in Canadian dollars - and with a three-year contract, which is the norm up there. It's going for $349 with a two-year deal. Do your own extrapolating from there.

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Video goodness of the HTC Touch Pro

The HTC Touch Pro (aka Raphael) recently made its way through the FCC. And to celebrate, The Unwired brings us a pair of review videos, giving you get a pretty good idea of what's in store once it hits the U.S. The first video focuses on software, while the second takes a look at the hardware.

The HTC Touch Pro is the slider keyboard version of the Touch Diamond. A quick rundown of what we can expect when it finally hits the states:

  • Windows Mobile 6.1.
  • 512 megs ROM/288 megs RAM.
  • 528 MHz Qualcomm processor.
  • TouchFLO 3D (presumably with the updated ROM).
  • Bluetooth 2.0 w/EDR.
  • WiFi.
  • Built-in GPS.
  • 3-2MP camera.
  • Slide-out keyboard.
  • 1340 mAh battery.
  • MicroSD.

And without further ado, we bring you The Unwired's:

Hands-on software review
Hands-on hardware video review

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Phone Scoop [via Mobility Site] caught the Touch Diamond over at the FCC yesterday. Ordinarily, this wouldn't bother us much, as we have long figured that it would show up in CDMA flavor here first. Oh ho, but wait, this Diamond is GSM: “This new version seen on the FCC site includes WCDMA 850/1900, and also confirms Bluetooth 2.0+EDR and Wi-Fi.”

Those WCDMA 850/1900 bands are the bands that AT&T uses for 3G here in the states. That means, of course, that the Diamond isn't going to be stuck as an EDGE-only device here. What we don't know is whether or not AT&T is going to officially pick it up. They gave the original Touch a pass and we haven't heard any rumblings yet about them picking it up, so the outlook isn't great on getting this thing at a subsidized price.

As usual, HTC has asked the the rest of the details they sent to the FCC be kept confidential, this time “indefinitely.” Ouch.

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Engadget Mobile lets us know that HTC Hong Kong has posted a World Wide English ROM that supports the 850 MHz radio band for EDGE data. The folks over at XDA are poking away at it and finding that it does indeed support the 850 MHz band for GSM (read: EDGE speeds) but that 850 3G data is still tough to come by. Reports are mixed on that front -- as Engadget notes and a read-though of the XDA thread confirms, there's some weirdness with the band selection in the settings.

On other fronts, though, the ROM apparently rocks. TouchFLO 3D is reportedly much faster! The other nice thing is that the weird “we're turning the screen off whether you like it or not during a call” behavior now defaults to friendlier settings based on your global power preferences (after the initial default power-down. Yes, it's confusing, but if you have one you know what we're talking about).

We were very pleasantly surprised when a hacked ROM came out a week ago with 850 support, we're just as pleased to see HTC officially supporting the 850 band. Looks like, for once, CompUSA has been somewhat vindicated. Whoodathunk?

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It turns out that the HTC Diamond's lack of support for the US bands we need to use the thing reliably may not be a hardware limitation. wmpoweruser [via] has unearthed this thread from XDA that includes a new Radio ROM. See -- there's the ROM for your smarpthone and a separate ROM for the radio. This new ROM enables support for the 850 band for EDGE, meaning the Diamond has suddenly become a viable (though EDGE-only) phone for most of the US!

Those readers have some cause to rejoice - an updated Radio ROM (V100.25.05) leaked by XDA-Developers hackers manages to activate the hidden 850 Mhz radio, allowing GSM and EDGE connectivity to work on all the GSM networks in USA. Unfortunately there is still no support for US 3G, but one is left only to wonder whether this is very far behind, seeing how HTC is planning to release the HTC Touch Diamond on the Australian Telstra network, which uses the same 3G bands as AT&T. - wmpoweruser

Indeed, if the enterprising hackers at XDA can unlock EDGE's 850 band, mayhap they can get this battlestation fully operational here in the US sooner than the rebel alliance, er, HTC does!

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The AT&T Tilt (HTC Kaiser II) is one of the most feature packed Windows Mobile devices currently on the market. Those of us riding the current wave of technology brought to us by AT&T and HTC are familiar with the sliding, tilting, Qwerty keyboard bearing device. The only problem with a device with so many features is that the Tilt is somewhat awkward to carry when not in use. The question of,

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Sprint Diamond: Launching September 2nd?

We know this sucka is testing at Sprint right now and we've seen some earlier roadmaps that said Q3, so this just confirms what we've already expected.

Basically it looks like Sprint is getting ready to launch the heralded HTC Touch Diamond (aka HTC MP 6950; the Sprint Touch is the 6900) on Tuesday, September 2nd. So start saving your cash now. Check out Dieter's great walk-through vid of what to expect.

This puts it at around the same time as Telus (who evidently are a lot more open about their Diamond love than Sprint or Verizon).

The specs are expected to be similar to what Telus/HTC announced, though who know what Sprint will do:

  • 101mm x 51mm x 14mm
  • EVDO Rev A
  • WiFi, Bluetooth 2.0
  • Qualcomm MSM 7510A Processor running at 528MHz
  • 256 ROM, 256 RAM, 4 Gigs internal (no expansion)
  • Opera 9.5 for the browser
  • Camera is still 3.2mp, screen is still 640x480
  • The battery gets a big bump: it's 1340 mAh

Oho yeah and there's the 1st "glamor shot" of the Treo 800w, which is launching this week...you know, in case you haven't heard.

Via GTX at Sprintusers (original photo)

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While you were busy spending your Independence Day stuffing yourself with hot dogs and hamburgers, another iteration of HTC's Touch Dual was working its way through the FCC.

As Endgadget Mobile points out, the "Neon" designation points to the Touch family, and the FCC testing shows a CDMA radio.

So, customers of Alltel/Verizon and/or Sprint or may have another Windows Mobile device (and big brother to the keypadless HTC Touch, which all two three carriers are currently selling) to look forward to in the coming months.

And for a look at what may be in store (minus carrier customizations, of course), check out Dieter's recent review of the unlocked GSM Touch Dual.

NEON400 FCC filing

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As we move closer to the second coming of the HTC Touch Diamond series (that is, the "Pro" aka "Raphael"), some pics and vids are leaking out.

One thing that is becoming clear: the Pro version is quite, ahem, thick.

Sure, the specs say it's the same thickness of the HTC Mogul and Tilt (~18.5mm) and it's actually less wide than those devices...but darn it all, just watch the vid after the jump and ask yourself...are you thin enough? Well are ya?

Via Slashgear

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