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Windows 9 Threshold

Mark your calendars: April 2015 is when Windows 9 is expected

Windows 8.1 is only a few months old, but we’re starting to learn more and more about Microsoft’s future plans for Windows. It was recently that we learned of “Threshold”, the company wide update for various Windows-based platforms that is expected to come in spring 2015. We’re now learning more about what’s coming on the Windows side of things when Threshold drops in April 2015.

That’s right, the Threshold update for Windows is expected to drop in April 2015. That’s according to Paul Thurrott and his sources at Microsoft. Over at his blog, Paul has shared some more details on what he knows about Threshold and what to expect at the upcoming Build 2014 developer conference.

First off, the Threshold update for Windows will see the platform called Windows 9. We expect an update to Windows 8.1 at the upcoming Build developer conference. That update will probably be called Update 1, but is known internally at Microsoft as GDR1. Update 1 for Windows 8.1 is expected to be finished in March and released to the public for free in April. What’s the big deal with Update 1? It’s anticipated to be step to bring Windows closer to Windows Phone 8.1, which is also expected around the same time – at Build 2014 over the course of a few days in early April.

So Build 2014… it takes place April 2-4 and should be a very big event for all us Windows Phone fans. We should see Windows Phone 8.1 announced and revealed to the public at large. Of course, we know a bit about Windows Phone 8.1 Things like a notification center are coming, as is a smart AI-like feature which has been rumored as “Cortana”. Build will also see a big emphasis on Xbox, with an update expected to drop for the console. Paul also expects a big announcement at Build about the next major release for Windows.

At Build, Microsoft is likely to share information about Windows 9. This version of Windows will look to rectify some of the features in Windows 8 that alienated customers. Windows 9 will look to further strike a balance between traditional PCs and new mobile devices that current and future customers are moving to. Build won’t see any Windows 9 bits, instead the focus will be on outlining their vision for the future of Windows.

We’ll see the maturation and fixing of the Metro design language. What’s this mean? It’s too early to say, but don’t be surprised if we see Windows 8 apps that can be windowed on the desktop. Right now, Microsoft is targeting a release date of April 2015 for Windows 9.

What do you want from the future of Windows?

Source: Supersite for Windows



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rodneyej says:

Really❔So, WP9 is coming around September 2015❔
Also, the goal for WP8.1 is to have 75% of W8's architecture, so will WP9 have over 90% shared architecture❔... That's what interest me.. I guess the Xbox will get a major update to its OS, based off of W9, to complete the whole "threshold" vision.. Interesting, and I can't wait to see what the future brings...
And, last but not least... If MS can do major updates to Windows desktop so fast, then what takes them so long between major versions of WP❔ Think about that.. Lol❕

carlosrdd says:

Should have held this news till we're close yo 2015 lol

MattLFC says:

Microsoft have gone numbers mad!! Windows 8.5 would suffice surely? How about instead of screwing these Windows versions up by removing/fixing things that ain't broke, just so they can run through numbers like they're going out of fashion, they just concentrate on addressing the key issues and user frustrations that exist with Windows 8? I remember a time when they said Vienna would likely be the final version of Windows as we know it, and future versions would be cloud based, still not happened, Microsoft seem desperate to cash in on the brand before its dead in the water or something, so they release a "new" version as often as possible. This means Windows Phone 9 will be out by then too! And 2017 Windows 10, which again will turn businesses further away from Windows. Just release an OS and support and update it (8) until such a time as a fundamental change in computing can be rolled out, such as an entirely cloud-based OS. People hated Vista, people weren't crazy for 7 though it was seen as an improvement, business has shurked away from 8, 8.1 is starting to address some of the issues in 8 and now Microsoft want to kill it off and jump to 9 asap, which we all know will simply be a further update tk Windows Vista, like 7 and 8 and 8.1 were, and basically be the fixed version of 8... Ballmer is starting to look pretty stupid in the strategical department, they really should have waited for the new CEO.

Dadstar0410 says:

I actually agree. People seem to hate every other MS OS. The change to 8 was needed for the future of the industry. But after that, if there is no major change that needs to be done, why make a new OS? Make updates like 8.1 more frequent until people grow more confident in your products. I'd rather build a fan base first before committing to a new project and ditching the old. Kinda like Apple's system right now. They stay on their current OS on their Mac until more advanced hardware is required for a better UI experience. Then they upgrade the OS. That's what MS did with 8, but they are already really far into the future: how much farther can they go? Not necessary yet. In rider to avoid "every other OS hate" once again, take your time with the next one. Don't commit too soon.

MattLFC says:

You'd think they'd heed the lessons taught to the world by Sega and Nokia... Sega announcing The Saturn's successor only a few months after it was released (and even worse Sega of America not knowing was Sega of Japan was doing, and releasing the miserable failure that was the 32X leaving people with their fingers burnt when Sega of Japan was developing and promoting the forthcoming Saturn) which killed consumer trust and led to the Dreamcast struggling sales wise (not helped by developers having their fingers burnt with the Saturn) and then we have Nokia with the "burning platform" memo - it was true, but it was months too early for info like that to be leaked. Shaft your customers at your peril.

Dadstar0410 says:

I just don't think it's the time. Unless Windows 9 is not the official name. Like, I hope that they change the name to 8.2 or 8.3, because consumers would be so confused, exactly what you said. They're starting to warm up to 8, and now you add 9?? A huge slap in the face to consumers everywhere, especially if they change too much too soon.

MattLFC says:

There's little need to call it Windows 9, unless Microsoft are planning to charge for it, and further alienate customers who are already disillusioned with Windows thanks to the fiasco of Vista (which I quite like), the mess it was delivered in and it's short cycle, then 8's metro interface and removal of the start menu etc, by suddenly announcing that 8 is old hat and 9 is on its way.

Way to kill Windows 8 PC sales further than they've already slumped? Announce Windows 9!!

Microsoft must be walking a tightrope with their partner OEM's at present, because dwindling Windows PC sales and the failure of RT has already smashed confidence in the brand. Windows Phone 7 didn't help the brand either. And Hap know dull well what a snap decision can do to a company, they've still not recovered from Leo's announcement to sell off or close its PC business, despite the decision being reversed and him being removed as CEO less than 2 weeks later.

Microsoft really are starting to seem like a company completely out of touch, no wonder Gates wants to have more input with the new CEO in the future.

Dadstar0410 says:

Couldn't have said it better myself.

How is this too soon? Windows 7: 2009. Windows 8: 2012. Windows 9: 2015. The only difference is that the first two were October launches, while 9 is supposedly April. Are you saying that 6 motnhs alienates everyone, even if it fixes many things people don't like?

Dadstar0410 says:

All the previous aforementioned OS's contained relatively familiar interfaces. Nothing extremely radical like Windows 8. Therefore it didn't take a lot of time to get used to. Something as breakthrough as Windows 8 takes time to grow accustomed to. I wouldn't mind Windows 9 if it kept the same basic objective of Windows 8. However, they just have to prove to the general public that Windows 8 will not be abandoned and that it will still continue to get better as Windows 9 is announced. So many people are buying Windows 8 laptops and don't know how to use Windows 8. I've witnessed it myself. That needs to change before they commit to another project. You know what I mean?

Huime says:

Calm down kid. MS screwed the image with bad launch. Then they remember how they got away with vista and they are doing the same here. Its still the OS we all love.

lol I laugh when I hear the windows vista thing. Does anyone remember windows me? It lasted like 10 months tops. Microsoft thereafter released XP. Windows me was 100 times worse than vista. I dont even know why people hated vista so much I dont hate it.

Windows 8 to me is like Vista. I really like it but it just doesn't have that complete awesome overhaul feel like windows XP or 7 did.


what's interesting to me is that I like the RT side almost more than the desktop side. Per se. I still mostly use the desk top side I wish they would just overhaul the desktop side to be more sleek like the rt side if that makes sense.

blackprince says:

I think you are underestimating how large of a pile of shit Win ME was, it was easily 1000x worse than Vista. It was like an alpha being released to the public. I installed it on one computer and went back to Win98 asap.

That's what im saying they need to improve windows 8 still add cortana improve any little things that are missing and keep supporting it with some more features its has an app store they aren't going about this too well they need to improve os and app support along with more features like messenger needs to be improved Skype alot missing in OS start menu too but I get the rush to change the UI and get people but they need to make sure that windows 8 continues to improve and get apps etc

John Bolin says:

At least with 8.1, 8.2, etc. it is a free update.  Going to 9 surely will NOT be.  I'm sure that is their motivation.

Mark Richey says:


Too much sugar on your cornflakes this morning?

The number is essentially meaningless for the incremental updates. And the code names mean even less at times. WP 8 was Apollo after Mango with 7.8x sandwiched in between. I am happier with the GDRx nomenclature and there has been a lot of conjecture as to when MS would go to Windows 9. Considering by April 2015 Windows 8 will be closing in on 3 years old, I find it comforting we won't be looking at another 10+ years to meaningful update as we did with XP.


Also, IT departments move notoriously slow. Those now having to change before April are moving to Win 7. Conservative, but not a huge leap to Win 8/9 later.





brmiller1976 says:

Windows 8.5 would suffice surely?

No... no it wouldn't.

A quick look at recent history would confirm that.

Remember the whole Vista fiasco?  It got hammered for its new UI.  (Sound familiar?)  It was slammed for being very different from the prior version of Windows.  (Sound familiar?)  It was planned by the press as a dismal failure.  (Sound familiar?)  It was avoided by consumers.  (Sound familiar?)

Microsoft made a few tweaks and fixes to Vista, renamed it "Windows 7," and launched it to huge critical acclaim and eye-popping sales.

The same pattern will likely hold with Windows 9.  Fair or not, "Windows 8" is a damaged brand, and Windows 9 will be the "critically acclaimed" version.

anon5351951 says:

Hmm this was all somewhat valid until you said Ballmer was stupid. You said it yourself, "cash in on the brand", that's exactly what they are doing... They are a business. They need to make money. And if win9 will do that, then that's what they will do.

Corkers100 says:

8.1 was technically a new os rather than an update and could be seen as win9. That's what my brother told me so must be true!

Janda45 says:

I wouldn't get too amped up on this so early in the day. A lot will happen between now and April 2015.

rodneyej says:

Right.. So, are we gonna be able to upgrade to 9 for free❔ I mean, the update cycle between major version is much faster now...

NIST says:

Well, that escalated quickly.

rodneyej says:

I'm not gonna tolerate his hatred towards anything that's different from him... Seriously NIST..
We've had to many racist comments from this guy in the past.. I thought he was taken care of... Read his comments⤵⤵. Typical of him..

MattLFC says:

Put ya money where ya mouth is fool, and show these racist comments "in the past". Put up, or shut up, simples.

rodneyej says:

Only god can cure this.

MattLFC says:

Or perhaps you can start, by providing us with the evidence of all these racist and communist posts I've apparently made over the years?? Perhaps I've been racist towards myself with the use of that abhorrent terminology beginning with the letter N....

rodneyej says:

Matt.. I'm not going to listen to your racist BS any longer.. I tried to give you a second chance but you didn't take it... I was hoping that you would prove to everyone here on WPC today that your past behavior was behind you, but I'm loosing faith... Dare I say "once a racist always a racist?"... Please stop now. Your attitude is disturbing.. Just leave that crap at home where you learned it.. Please stop the racism once and for all. PLEASE❕

MattLFC says:

Please just please, show us the evidence of all these racists and communist posts I've made over the years, because I'm really intrigued to see this evidence. Or perhaps admit it never existed in the first place...

rodneyej says:

Matt❕ You did it❕ You made the comments.. Try lying to someone else... QUIT❕.. Now, you're just being ridiculous.. STOP❕

MattLFC says:

Of course you're not going to show them, because you have none to show, why? Because they've never been made. As for your comments regarding Daniel Rubino apparently warning me in the past and taking action for racist or communist posts by myself, well I'm sure such posting wouldn't be tolerated on WPC, and in any case, I'm sure Daniel would be happy to confirm whether this is true or not, since I'm more than happy to allow him my permission to divulge such information. And when he confirms no warnings of this nature have ever been given, and you've clearly been living in a parallel universe, then I'm sure you'll quietly distance yourself from this comments thread.

NachoBear says:

has rodneyj got down's or something?

rodneyej says:

No.. It just bothers me when this guy attaches to my comments.. He's made to many slanderous comments in the past.. Trust me, you don't want to associate with him.. Racism is not allowed..

MattLFC says:

You speak of these comments, you speak of these warnings I've apparently received from Daniel, for all my racist postings, you promise (warn me ever) that you will show evidence of this to the world (well at least folk here on wpcentral)... And yet, when it comes to the crunch, the evidence doesn't exist, so you revert to repeatedly calling me a racist bitch, dog, devil, communist etc... Just show us the evidence, please. You know your initial comment of don't post on my thread, was of a childish attitude, and you're further proving this attitude with every post you make.

drozdpatrick says:

Tell Ricky Lake, this is a windows phone link! You and Rodney need help, yo.

Rockartisten says:

Matt, have you been on forums again calling the white race inferior to all other races?

No, seriously, I hang out here alot, and I haven't seen anything truly racist. Only comments that people wrongfully feel are racist, but that's their own emotional problems.

MattLFC says:

The sad thing is, he went off on one for the silly reason, I posted in reply to his message. He's now deleted his original messages in an attempt to give his racist chants some credit, but essentially he was acting like a baby, moaning because someone else had posted in "his" comments thread, and something he didn't agree with. Hence my use of the terminology Heil Hitler and Führer, because it seems like he wants to supress opinion lol. Now this original posts made him look very stupid and childish, as though he was throwing his toys out of his pram, and after that, he went on a crusade to tell the world I was a racist, communist, devil, dog, pig etc... More of his postings have been deleted, but he was referring to lots of racist posts I have made in the past (apparently) and claiming if I didn't stop responding to him, I would feel his wrath and if I wanted to be a regular poster on here (because all these past racist posts don't make me a regular lol) I should really avoid getting on the wrong side of him, and how Daniel has banned me multiple times' because of my racist rantings, and how he would expose me by showing the world all my previous racist posts over the years (Because I'm sure wpc would condone such behaviour), yet despite repeated threats to expose m, this evidence has not yet been forthcoming. I've called his bluff and he's nothing to show us.

To be honest, he can attempt to make me look like whatever he wants, a racist, an elf, a leprechaun, he can feel free to treat himself, he's made himself look like a 12 year old in his postings, and I do pity the fool. Nevertheless, I hold no grudges, life's to short for all that, but would still love him to expose me with all these past racist, communist and whatever else he accused me of, postings that I have made in the past, or perhaps get Daniel to confirm that they have at some point warned me for racist remarks in the past (meaning such behaviour would be tolerated on wpc).

Have a nice day everyone. :)

Bigsro says:

Brick killed a guy!

Fritzly says:

Nope, it is still three years. XP lifespan  was an anomaly.

Dadstar0410 says:

To answer the initial question put out by Rodney, maybe. Maybe not. I just read on The Verge that Microsoft is using Windows 9 as a "patch" upgrade, to fix Windows 8. Given that information, and assuming nothing else is being added, it might just be an 8-9 free upgrade. Although given the nature of MS I doubt it. That's why I am against calling it Windows 9. People are JUST NOW buying Windows 8 laptops. They just started becoming relatively mainstream. So why go to Windows 9 and have people pay for it, forcing them to get ANOTHER laptop only a year later, or force them to pay for an update for their laptop that they just got? Most people don't do that. The fragmentation needs to be fixed somehow.

Edit: here's the link for you guys:

cowboy6201 says:

How about MS fixing the touch pad issues on all laptops.
I setup a brand new dell today for a customer still opening other already apen apps in the background or desktop ect.

rodneyej says:


TonyDedrick says:

This Pats game is pretty much a wrap. So reading this craziness on WPC is the next best thing, lol

rodneyej says:

His racism is no joke, dude.. Lol❕

MattLFC says:

And yet you laugh out loud at it? A lot of lol'ing from you, considering you're accusing someone of bring a racist, without any evidence to back it up. Anyone would think you're just trolling... Or maybe you're a racist yourself, and that's why it's all amusing to you? Strange, very strange...

BldyIdt says:

Y so serious?

DavidinCT says:

True that...great game, go pats...

Fellipe Abib says:

I don't remember where I see this new before but threshold is going to name Windows 8.2
First time I hear about Windows 9.
I don't think this is going to be good to Microsoft.

Rishicash says:

I think of it then weep.

TashiJLE says:

Woohoo! Just got Dell Venue Pro 8, running 8.1, and now in a little more than a year, I'll get an upgraded OS! It's like getting a new computer again....., at least I hope! Great reporting Sam

Credo93 says:

Keep in mind that it will not be free .... Like every big Windows update

rodneyej says:

But, that's my question.. If MS is going to seriously shorten the update cycle the how can they not make these updates free❔... Something's got to give.

Why wouldn't it be free? Windows 8 was not well received (I like it) and the added fact that MS now has a windows store to get some revenue from... Why wouldn't windows 9 be free?

rodneyej says:

We don't know the answer to that question yet..

John20212 says:

Why the hell should it be free? Just because they are a big company does not mean they should give everything away for free. MS already gives out a ton of free stuff especially for students, schools, etc.

If you don't want to spend a bit stay with Win8. The price has gone down a lot already, I remember when we were paying $400+ for new Windows; now with the faster releases the price is already at $200 for the most expensive version.

One thing I hope MS never does is make Windows subscription based like they screwed up Office already.



U must be working as a lawyer for MS and fear u won't get paid.. Why else would someone WANT to pay when the company may give it for free?. Apple recently announced that Mavericks OS will be free.. On top of that its giving iwork for free too (I know apple won't do that to its top selling product lol) ok so.. MS is already plagued by a plethora of viruses and malwares imagine how hard it is to maintain 3 main OS and variations of it at any point of time. Now imagine if the OS is free.. Everyone will upgrade so it only needs to do security updates for the latest updates... At present windows is the only main OS that is still paid. Mac OSX, Linux Ubuntu, chrome OS.

Munkeyphyst says:

Lol at the idea that Ubuntu and chrome are in the same league as windows.

U can lol all u want doesn't change the fact that Ubuntu and chrome OS are free and are alternatives that run on much of the same hardware as windows. No one really thought android could even compare to the likes of apples IOS(some still think its not there yet) but look at its growth. Many assembled PC owners opt Ubuntu. Google is tried hard with chrome and android comes installed in the new windows PCs.

Munkeyphyst says:

Chrome is a glorified browser, and isn't "free" it's paid for with ads and data mining. If 99% of the worlds software won't run on it, it's not a viable OS. What sort of product support do you get with Ubuntu? What kind of guarantee is their for updates and bug fixes? I'm not saying they're not OS's, but to suggest that because they are free, windows should be too is like saying, homeless shelters (Chrome OS) are free, and you can get plans to build your own house for free using found and reclaimed items (Ubuntu), so all homes should be free.

John20212 says:

lol, love the analogy


Wrong interpretation.. I didn't say since Ubuntu is free windows should be free.. I m saying free alternatives are available. I have used Ubuntu but I like mac os far better. I have not used chrome OS but I ve heard it has limitations (internet connectivity) but those are eating away on Microsoft's share.. Mac os is pretty much stagnant its growth graph is horizontal. 1 user gained in these 2 OS is 1 user lost for MS. Now imagine if MS give the OS for free to users.. The advantages are many.. Other than the few I mentioned earlier..losses from pirated software, maintaining an anti piracy wing are areas MS can save.. So far u haven't mentioned one reason for why it should be a paid upgrade.

Munkeyphyst says:

Because companies need money to develop software and provide product support and to pay for the FREE upgrades and updates that they do constantly produce and offer.

John20212 says:

Also many of those 'free' alternatives utilize advertizing and data mining to make their money.

I would rather pay for a product then have my data used, or see ads everywhere.


John20212 says:

"U must be working as a lawyer for MS"

I wish.


Daniel Stack says:

There is no such thing as a free lunch for consumers. Only payment in other ways like advertising or data mining. The same can be said about open source. Its not always a good choice.

Yea, it will not be free, Ofcourse. But will be cheap in price for licensed users.

aitt says:

Sounds good. Maybe we can get those folders now. Can't wait to see how WP 8.1 will be and then integrated with RT.

MDak280 says:

Wow, that's pretty soon. Only now am I getting ready to upgrade to Windows 8 (8.1 actually) xD Hopefully they offer a generous discount like they did at the launch of Windows 8.


Well, good for Microsoft. There are definitely still some things that need to be cleaned up in Windows 8.1. Will Windows 9 RT also be announced?

Dadstar0410 says:

"Threshold" is the group of updates coming out in April 2015 that includes W9, WP integration with W9 and RT merging with WP, and Xbox One improvements that work with W9 as well. Everything is going to be integrated with everything. But Threshold is going to be eliminating RT, so that only WP OS will be found on tablets and convertibles. So unfortunately, there will be no W9RT.

Let in begin...LET IT BEGIN!

Really... Just got 8.

kenzibit says:

Hope they make it a free upgrade like 8.1

RyanAMG says:

My guess would be no. If it was 8.2 then ya but 9 will most likely cost money.

Corvodin says:

It's like you people haven't been following anything at all about Microsoft. It will most probably be a UPDATE for Win 8.1. And as MS transisions to a devices and services company, they are moving more toward the Apple model of handling software updates.

Windows 8 wasn't an update for win7, but win9 is just an update for win8, they're not just going to fix quibbles that people have with the current OS and call it a brand new one, are they?

Dadstar0410 says:

+(insert infinity sign)

GrapeEyes says:

I am trialing windows 9 now

Munkeyphyst says:

I'm alpha testing WIN10

twentythreee says:

I'm using WIN95 :P

Micah Dawson says:

I'm excited for build :P

spaulagain says:

Curious what their update model is going to be like. I'm assuming we'll have to pay for W9. How much?

pookyjoralyn says:

man, over a year left! :P

mr toes says:

Wow, you guys have already bought your 2015 calendars? Thats what I call forward thinking.

shamrock1988 says:

Hopefully its a back track to 7

Hopefully it won't

shamrock1988 says:

Hopefully it will be. Windows 8 is a joke. Its no good for businesses. Its a gimmick

Rem97 says:

Not sure how a whole operating system can be a gimmick lol.

rpm5101 says:

My only computer with Windows 8 is my business laptop. I love the workflow of it. I have never had an issue, and actually prefer it to 7 now. You just have to know how to use it. :)

MattLFC says:

You're obviously not aware of the corporate world; you've just highlighted the key issue for business - users don't know how to use newer OS's because Microsoft seem intent on changing things for no apparent/useful reason, and actually in some cases, takes a step back (Win 8, start screen is pathetic for non-touch devices, removal of the start menu was absurd), and when they make these changes, business don't upgrade because it costs lots of money, time and lost hours of productivity to retrain staff to use pointless changes. I know of a few major employers in the UK who are "still" using Windows XP and will "still" continue to use it long after April 2014 has come and gone - when you have 40,000+ employees, and thousands of systems in operation, upgrading to 7/8 was always going to be a challenge and as it stands, systems are still deployed with XP for the simple reason of employee's.

rodneyej says:

What type of WP device do you have❔

MattLFC says:

At present Lumia 920, Lumia 620 (going soon), Lumia 710 (backup workhorse), Lumia 610 (work phone). Due an upgrade in April so hopefully a 1020 providing they've not announced a successor for it by then, otherwise I might hold off for it. :)

rodneyej says:

Then you should know how things work here on WPC.. Grow up❕

MattLFC says:

Heil Hitler!!

rodneyej says:

You're racist, prejudice, comments explain everything about who you are.. Where do you live Matt❔

MattLFC says:

The mother land.

12Danny123 says:

No offence dude. But people do find that offensive you know that

rodneyej says:

I'm telling you guys.. He has been warned before for his racist, communistic, oppressive, hatred... What's wrong with people like this.. SMH.

MattLFC says:

The use of term motherland is offensive? Wow! And there's me thinking the US was all about liberty, freedom of movement, freedom of speech, happy people and light-hearted banter!

Since he likes describing me as a racists, communist etc, I thought I'd give him a reason to call me an imperialist, since it seems the term has fallen out of favour these days.

As for Heir Hitler, its a common term over here in jolly old England, used to describe someone who is trying to dictate to others and suppress them.

I guess the US don't like it; but then we don't particularly like the use of Dutch-derived slave terms such as Nigger and Negro that seem to be in every day usage over in the US and S.American countries, but I certainly don't lose sleep over it. I'd rather some respond to me Heir Hitler than to call me a racist term. ;)

rodneyej says:

Th⬆s is typical of this guy people.. This is exactly what he does everytime.. Lol.. Now he's trying to cover his tracks... WPC.. Will you please stop these kind of members from ruining everyone else 's time here.. This guy is completely unacceptable❕
Can you believe this guy said that the use of the "N" word is acceptable in the US.. Wait, let me dig up some of his previous post over the months. This is going to blow your mind...

MattLFC says:

Cover my tracks on what? Why don't you stop crying like a baby, and actually realise the world doesn't revolve around you. The guys at WPC may actually not read your comments (im sure they'll risk facing your wrath when you start your New World Order for not reading each and every one of your comments over the years) and may not even see your little crying comment on here, go to them direct. As I've said before, put up or shut up. You just keep spreading malicious accusations and lies, but I'm and adult and I'm not going to make silly childish statements like you that I'm going to sue you for slander etc, or my daddy's a lawyer etc, ill just leave you to your own devices, keep making these unfounded accusations, because in cyberspace, no-one can hear you (except maybe if your Daniel Rubino :D ).

rodneyej says:

I'm sorry if I said anything to offend you..

MattLFC says:

Every other rap song by all your rap artists features the horrid Dutch slace term, or an offspin of it. So its an offensive word over there, but its allowed in popular media? Right... Over here, you'd be prosecuted by the police and her majestys crown prosecution service for the use of such terminology in public, and possibly land yourself in jail.

rodneyej says:

Who says I listen to rap, or support that❔.. Choose words carefully, my friend.

MattLFC says:

In your country, the term is allowed. Its even promoted by your popular media, as an integral part of your culture. Over here in the UK, the use of the term in public is a crime. Football players from S.America have found themselves in serious trouble for using such words during a match, because such words in S.American states are apparently in common use and not seen as offensive. So yeah, I don't think we'll be taking many lectures from those two continents with regards racist terminology and use of it. We've had that covered for a long time, enshrined in law. I respect the changes the US has made, since the likes of Martin Luther and Michael Jackson, but the fact that degrading word is still allowed over there, is pretty shocking. Still, different terminologies means different things to different people, and over here heir hitler is not an offensive term. And we lost millions of men, women and children (yes, my grandfather lied about his age, and was a boy soldier, serving in France and Egypt during World Wad II fighting against Hitler, like many underage boys did), so don't try to educate us of the meaning of the term and person Hitler was. Additionally, we partnered your nation as the first line of defense against the soviet union during the cold war, and a fundamental reason for the fall of the iron curtain was thatchers (nicknamed the iron lady by the Russians for her determination and courage) friendship/alliance with Gorbachev. So yeah, we're certainly not communist. We're part of Europe, the Ukranians are currently demonstrating in their millions to become part of Europe in a bid to put the constraints of their communist ideologies behind them.

rodneyej says:

Its ok now, Matt.. Nobody is perfect.. You don't have to explain yourself.

MattLFC says:

But I'm still intrigued to see all these posts from the past that prove I'm a racist, communist devil bitch etc... And waiting... And waiting... And waiting.......... The death clock is ticking, I won't live eternally.

rodneyej says:

Now, I've apologized to you.. How would it look if I did that.. Really.. Besides, those who know you around here have already seen your past hatred towards others.. I'm not going to stoop to your level, so quit asking me to.

MattLFC says:

It would look magical, because you have no posts to show. The only person around here who looking stupid, is you, calling someone racist because you have the mentality of a child who's not quite past the stage of pre-school yet, and overreacted simply because someone made a post that you didn't like. And then you have the audacity to accuse someone else of being communist!!! In the Soviet Union elections, voter turnout was regularly below 30%; but then there was little point in bothering, when there was only ever one name on the ballot paper to chose from.

rodneyej says:

You sure are doing a lot of explaining tonight.. Is this what the rest of your experience is going to be like here on WPC❔..
I like to help people like you.. So, do we need more intervention❔ Remember, it's your choice.

MattLFC says:

Help everyone by showing the evidence of my racist/communist/trolling ways that you so fondly talk of...

rodneyej says:

Ok.. That's it. Its time for me to report your behavior to staff.. You just don't know when to quit.

MattLFC says:

Go for it, you've been whipped, despite all your earlier threats towards me. Pwnd.

Jf.Vigor says:

Do you two need a room?

Can these comments actually get any more narrow?

DennisvdG says:

That is exactly what he does not do. He is whoring for attention.

rodneyej says:

Lol❕.. He's not even a good racist.. LMFAO. just joking

Yousef Kawmi says:

don't get me in the argument !
i was fixing the word 
(totally not a grammar nazi) :)

rodneyej says:

Lol❕.. Not a argument,,, a lesson...

MattLFC says:

You are correct. Its late over here.

rodneyej says:

Time for bed now.. Tomorrow we'll talk about what we learned tonight.. Nite, Nite❕ Don't let the bedbugs bite❕❕❕

DJCBS says:

Thank you! I didn't want to step into the quarrel between them but the "Heir" was really itching my inner-History buff =P

rodneyej says:

Why not❔.. People should speak up against racism.

R0bR says:

If I was up to me I would ban you both for polluting these threads with your useless bickering. Not everyone wants to scroll through all this crap when trying to read peoples opinions on the posted article.

schlubadub says:

+1 it's like watching two kids with buckets on their heads colliding into each other repeatedly

twentythreee says:

I'm from Braunau/Austria (yes, Hitler's birth place) and if you say Heil Hitler here you should better run fast. You should really stop this shit, as rodney said ...

brmiller1976 says:

It's so unfortunate that there isn't a "flag comments" button here.

This sort of hateful troll diatribe is what I'd expect on a site targeted to nerdy virgin Google fanboys, not Windows.

BldyIdt says:

Yeah... I've never seen something like that on a Google/android related forum so... no, just no.

Markp74 says:

Couple of points, in most cases I find that xp is still deployed, not for the sake of the employee but for the sake of IT and the fact that they have no plan in place and they have no system management tools or application testing plans. If a company with over 40000 employees has neither of these and plan to stick with XP after April then the only thing they are planning for is a disaster after official support ends because at some point it's going to happen.

MattLFC says:

Oh yes, the company in question isn't exactly familiar with terms such as redundancy etc, but then they're also not familiar with spending millions every time Microsoft need to raise there share price. I'll leave the company un-named for the sake of privacy (private company) but they run hotels, coffee shops etc... In the UK, narrows it down considerably.

The NHS, the 3rd largest employer in the world with over 1 million employeers, still has the majority of its systems running XP, the migration to 7 was never widespread due to the sheer scale and cost of such a project. Being government and confidential data etc, their network is more secure than most, but that's not the point. They will likely be running and out of date OS three years from now, because the cost to retrain staff and deploy new systems is colliding with a time of massive government cutbacks in finance, and IT was the first area they squeezed, when the decision was between that and doctors/nurses/patients/operations/equipment lol.

Ticomfreak says:

I suggest you read the book "Who moved my cheese?" Change happens throughout life. Deal with it.

rodneyej says:

Lol❕ Perfect.. Great comment.. Pray for the closed minded.

DJCBS says:

And as History has proven over and over and over and over again, "change" isn't a synonym of "better" ;)

Reflexx says:

Hopefully it won't, because it's not a gimmick.

I swear, some people need to learn what gimmick means.

RyanAMG says:

It must be troll Saturday. Go read a book.

Jf.Vigor says:

Youre a gimmick

cdbstl76 says:

God, if it goes back to anything like the old OSs, I'll stick with 8.1! Move forward and onward!

Antluv82 says:

Windows is tha best OS of all times

I'm hoping if they charge it'll be a small upgrade price like Apple charges (ie leopard -> snow leopard).

Shaz2012 says:

Windows 9 is probably not going to be a free upgrade. They might initially lower the price but I doubt it will be free. Just hope that they allow rt tablets to be upgradeable.

schlubadub says:

Dobby must be given a sock before he is free

Is my my Lumia 925 get an update for windows phone 9 or do I have to get a new phone???

Guess..... new phone, duh 925 is already dated

That's sucks I don't need a faster phone yet where's Intel I can't wait till we get x86 processor on phones just install that shit on my phone get a new phone in four years run games with lower graphics lol

Reflexx says:

You dont need a fast phone yet. But 2015 isn't exactly right now. It's

You guys do realize this is W9 not WP9

kokola95 says:

Im gueesing current wp8 devices will get wp9 updates. I think theyre trying to build a solid fan base since they broke it into tiny pieces by not upgrading wp7 to wp8

Marco Gomes1 says:

With this time frame I might keep my 3 years old windows 7 Asus laptop as it is and upgrade (new laptop) only then, assuming I can squeeze another year out of it.

Credo93 says:

Damn April seems to be so far away, someone i know from Instagram said to me that the Windows Phone 8.1 update will be much bigger in terms of features then the update of Windows Phone 7.5 to 8, he saw that with his own eyes he told me :) ... This makes me even more exciting ...

Jf.Vigor says:

Not too hard to believe considering mango added a ton of features and that was almost 2 years ago... Def time for a ton more new features!

Credo93 says:

Agreed, i don't know how many features where added with Mango, because when i went Windows Phone Mango was already released, but there need to be more features with this update :)


Rem97 says:

Will Windows 9 be free for current Windows 8 users, or will MS still be charging for their new iterations of Windows?

Credo93 says:

Probably you will have to pay for it :(

Fritzly says:

After three years there is a new OS and we pay for. Nothing new...

schlubadub says:

Hopefully they'll do the same deal as W8 where everyone could get it for $15

Silent Night says:

Hopefully Windows Phone 8 devices will be fully upgradable to Windows Phone 9. Also, what happened to the Windows 8 Phone?

Alpo714 says:

+1: please do fill us in!

ntice_521 says:

Windows 9 will support windows? Wow, that's....progress, I guess?

twentythreee says:

Took Windows a lot of time to realize that windows are cool :-)

Alpo714 says:

Does this apply to WP8? Should we expect to see WP9 sometime near the release of W9?

kokola95 says:

Mary Jo Foley does mention about wp9 alongside with windows 9

DJCBS says:

First question that comes to mind: will it be delivered as a free update for people on W8.x to face Apple's new policies?
Given that Windows is the main source of revenue for Microsoft along with Office, although I would like it, I doubt it will come for free.

That said, what I want from Windows 9 is very simple: enough with the Metro.
It was tried, it floped, enough. Get rid of it, period. If you want to keep the Live Tiles, then put them on desktop as a replacement of the current icons. BUT don't constrict them to a fixed grill. Allow them to be moved with the same freedom current icons are and be reduced to as small as current icons are.
The Start Menus is, obviously, a must return. But that'll be coming even before W9 so, they just need to keep it.
As for the App Store...meh. They better indeed find a way for programmers to code only once for Windows. That would be the ideal. Which means developing to the point that current x86 programs could in the future run on any Windows tablet or smartphone. This is what I expected from Microsoft when I first heard of their partnership with Nokia and this was one of the biggest disappointments I had with the OS.
That would make the App Store unnecessary but Microsoft could then use the Store as an "Official download place" where companies could place their programs for sale instead of having to run their individual websites. That would ensure developers would not only code for Windows first but would give them a platform that would reduce costs for them by eliminating the need to have websites, security purchasing systems etc put in place to sell their programs.

Dadstar0410 says:

The tile idea needs to stay. People see them everywhere now, it is a huge part of the Microsoft family. Removing them would slap consumers right across the face. Can't remove them now. Especially if the world advances to touch as Microsoft predicted.

elmacho says:

+1..They just need to integrate it and make it one.There should be just one UX across the whole OS not two as it is now.

rodneyej says:

All that time I stuck up for you, and I finally know why.. See, I knew you weren't so bad.. But, I did find the biggest idiot on WPC and his name is MattLFC❕.... He's toast❕
Racism is not acceptable❕

JoRdaNeK says:

You're making me aware of him like a brand!!! Don't make people famous :P

rodneyej says:

I apologized to him. Nobody's perfect.. His racist behavior was taught to him by others, but hopefully he'll find his own way someday.. Its called compassion.. I'm done.

MattLFC says:

Oh how I feel for you. Such a sad little person who can't actually follow through with the threats he makes. If you make a threat, at least have the ability to see it through. You didn't.
If you make a statement, at least be able to back it up. You didn't.
If you make a promise, keep it. You didn't.
Sorry, but you're an epic fail. Hare to be the burden of bad news. Still, you're alive, so enjoy life!!

rodneyej says:

Another hateful comment from a proven racist.. Typical..

Rockartisten says:

Ok, this is starting to get annoying. What has he said? If you are gonna fill the entire thread with such serious accusations, and campaign against an individual, then you need to give an example and back it up. Everything said here is stored, so what's the problem?

2tomtom says:


Talk about the article or go away. Please!

MattLFC says:

Glad I'm not the only one who is thinking this. I simply wish he'd follow through with his threats, and expose all these past racist postings that I've apparently made, and wpc have apparently been happy to condone... Or better still, just admit that there was no postings such as he speaks, and he's fabricated the whole to punish domone for posting in "his" comment thread...... :)

DaQuantumFro says:

Windows Phone 8.1 was never on the same schedule as Windows 8.1. The products launching under Threshold are said to be aimed to release around the same time of each other.

DJCBS says:

Are you sure your answer was supposed to be aimed at me? 'cause I didn't mentioned WP8.1 anywhere...

DaQuantumFro says:

Mispost, apologies

I work for government in uk, we use xp and will still use it for a while. Police, fire and ambulance 999 call centres all use it too

kingjah says:

No wonder your getting hacked into.(maybe)

MattLFC says:

Same in the NHS bud :)

Cellus13 says:

Too soon, really...

Dadstar0410 says:

Agreed. I'm sure the new CEO will very quickly change this. This is far from concrete imo.

JennaMadison says:

Just intime for my birthday! Awesome

abdhoms says:

Oh yeah mine too. ;)

Ma Rio says:

There's one thing that bothers me WAY TOO MUCH!

Why can't microsoft release Windows Phone 9 along with Windows 9.

Why didnt they Release Windows Phone 8 when Windows 8 launched, and release WP 8.1 when W8.1 launched?
The same goes for Internet Explorer. Desktops and WinRT are using IE 11, and WP is using IE10.

Why can't they just go with the same numbers?

Credo93 says:

I would love that ! Really, if Microsoft did that, there would be double the excitement ... But i doubt Microsoft would ever do that ...


DaQuantumFro says:

Windows Phone 8.1 was never on the same schedule as Windows 8.1. The products launching under Threshold are said to be aimed to release around the same time of each other.

elmacho says:

Might happen once they get Win RT and phone to converge into Windows mobile and thus,have just 2 versions of windows.

SamiSaifDine says:

Brace yourself my grandson! You're getting the WP9

noknok79 says:

boo! just make the Nokia Black update released then in a matter of 3 days WP8.1, before you set the Windows 9 release:

cowboy6201 says:

How Ms fixing the touch pad issues on all laptops?
I just set up a brand new today for someone and the touch pad is still taking all over the place like from desktop to an already open app ect.

DaQuantumFro says:

First, I can't wait for Build if this is the case. Second to answer someone above Threshold is a series of releases including Windows, Windows Phone, and the Xbox so they will come out together (The head of OS was head of Windows Phone).

On Microsoft talking about Windows 9 at Build, that's for developers and OEMs. One complaint about the Sinofsky era WinDiv is that it kept too much stuff to itself which many consider just as bad as the previous groups "Let it all out even its not ready" style. According to Thurrott whatever information given about Threshold is to inform the main audience for Build (devlopers) on where the platform is going.

On why this is being called Windows 9 and not 8.5 I guess its to allow the platform to get away from the controversy borne from Windows 8; also because Threshold is a major shift in terms of platform direction. Threshold is bringing an update to Metro, running tablet (maybe phone) apps on the desktop and more unification between screens. I think that is enough change to warrant a number change. Also remember Windows and Windows Phone will see updates in-between.

So Metro is not going away, but it will change and so will RT.

Now as to pricing and upgrading, Microsoft is planning on having current devices upgradable and if 8.1 is an indication, it'll be free for current Windows 8/8.1 users and those who've upgraded to 8.1. I don't expect Microsoft to stop selling Windows in stores. I do think based on recent news Microsoft may reduce the price on the box and possibly make RT/Phone free for OEMs. Outside of that this is wait and see. 

pattayo_ib says:

April fool? No, i'm so kidding. ;p

mjrtoo says:

Microsoft has always been the innovator, I can only imagine that they will continue. The best and brightest in the entire world!