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Windows Phone 8.1 camera app shown off in new video, reveals new customizations

We’re less than a month away from actually seeing Windows Phone 8.1 ourselves at Microsoft’s Build conference in San Francisco. We know a lot about the next big version of Windows Phone, but there’s still more info trickling out as we lead up to the big unveil. Today we’re looking at the default camera application that Windows Phone 8.1 handsets will ship with. Video after the break.

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Few things to take away from the video above that shows the settings for photos + camera and the camera application itself.

  • Application is called Microsoft Camera
  • Live tile for the photo app can cycle between all photos, a single image or those marked as favorites
  • Photos can be grouped by time and location
  • You can quickly pin specific settings to the camera viewfinder (white balance, resolution, lens picker, front/rear camera toggle, etc.)
  • Manually select different scenes (nighttime, portrait, etc.)
  • New icon for lenses
  • Can quickly change video quality when in video recording mode
  • Can select photo quality for burst mode

We’re digging the changes that Microsoft has made for the default camera application in Windows Phone 8.1. While a lot of you with Lumia phones are happy with Nokia Camera, it’ll be nice to see other non-Nokia OEMs get a high quality camera application as standard.

For more on Windows Phone 8.1, check out our complete feature list

Source: UnleashThePhones

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Sergio0694 says:

You already have HDR!
Just take three/five shots with different exposures (use the EV steps according to how many shots you take) and combine them with Lightroom, Photomatix or Photoshop, or whatever.
THAT'S the real HDR, not some crappy quality post-production instagram-like filter.

Jabid21 says:

Yep but does it have exposure bracketing?.

Sergio0694 says:

Nokia Camera supports exposure bracketing, with 3-5 shots and custom EV intervals.
I believe ProShot and other camera apps support bracketing as well :)

zorb58 says:

But does it blend?

 

Sorry, I know its old, but your comment reminded me.

Sergio0694 says:

Ahahahaahahah let's find it out!
Bzzzzzzz :D

NIST says:

Lenses for video!!!!! Please!!

well why there ain't a pause option in video still...!!!!    :/

busyman96 says:

So why doesn't he lift the phone up so that we can see the camera taking actual photos?

CJ Thunder says:

I just hope Nokia Camera gets a little faster.

DennisvdG says:

Yeah Nokia camera takes a minute to start up... Makes the quick launch button a little pointless...

neonspark says:

+1020.

If they don't kill it, they should really hook it into the system in such a way that it gets pre-loaded or something. It is so slow on the 1020 that if something is about to happen in the next 5 seconds, I don't bother because I know the 1020 will not be able to take a picture that fast from the lock screen.

Hoss98 says:

well.....on my lumia 720 I use the Nokia cam as a default camera app I use the camera button to oppen it from the lock and it oppens quite fast!!

rockstarzzz says:

Because that will give away any changes in camera algorithm that they may want to save for launch. These are VERY controlled leaks to generate the buzz.

shadoweye14 says:

I am glad I am not the only one who feels that way. These leaks are very much controlled and intentional in an Indirect way. Microsoft only released the features in the SDK that they wanted to get leaked. Along with some necessary features for actual app development.

Ali Assaedi says:

well, MS defiantly knew that all those features will be leaked.. but as for the videos, its always from unleashthephones.. they control the videos, and control the leak.. constant buzz= constant ad revenue since more ppl will visit their site over a longer period of time... I don't think its directly related to MS.. but it certainly helps them better.. would have been alot worse if all was leaked from day one

Jabid21 says:

Maybe he isn't great at taking photos one handed while he held the video camera with the other hand.

crise says:

Will this be better than Nokia camera? Guess not right?

bkbkjbb says:

Highly doubt it

narv says:

Well Microsoft and Nokia will soon be the same company so i think eventually the MS camera will  be on par with Nokia's.

DJCBS says:

Wrong. They won't. Nokia devices & services employees will become Microsoft employees. But all the technology, patents and research & development teams remain with Nokia.

Correction : all the technology and research & development teams related to devices and services are also going to Microsoft. So basically , all the people related to making Nokia phones are going to Microsoft.  An example for that is that the pureview team , which is basically a technology , research and development team, has been confirmed by nokia and Microsoft that it's going to microsoft , not to mention that Microsoft will acquire the Pureview brand name.

As for the patents, the Microsoft-Nokia deal covers Microsoft licencing them.

neonspark says:

I hope they will not get drowned in the MSFT sea of politics and see their camera app bastardized by redmond. The nokia app surely has room to improve, but this thing is awful.

SargeT says:

Better in some aspects. Nokia Cam eats too much RAM, lags rather often even on my 1Gb 920, has stability issues and sometimes lags video recording which is unacceptable. Native app is free of everything above.
But Nokia's app has a benefit: it looks attractive, stylish and simply cool, while MS' got as much style as a 10 y.o. Samsung's refrigerator.

kinaton says:

Does lumia not have Nokia camera by default or MS striping that our.

In my opinion, the default camera already performs better than the Nokia Camera.

Aashish13 says:

+720 we want inbuilt pro cam not an app. We want in built features. Its not that easy to,maintain run the app on every OS

theroyboy44 says:

Depends on what you mean by better I guess. Nokia camera is really laggy at the moment plus it seems as though it had pretty much all of Nokias settings just laid out differently, definitely like the fact that I can eaily switch to front facing cam!

Well Roy, Nokia has a cooler UI and maybe more functions, but I have better results with the default camera - particularly videos, but pics too. Videos on the Nokia Camera are often choppy and sometimes skip & pause for several seconds. This could be my hardware I suppose, but the default camera doesn't do those things on my 822.

theroyboy44 says:

I haven't noticed that with my vids (L925) but I def agree Nokia Cam UI is better!

dalydose says:

Nice. I wonder why they use "Close Up" instead of "Macro".  Is "macro" a confusing or unknown term? 

Sam Sabri says:

Probably. I can see the general population not knowing macro, but understanding close up. 

Here in Brazil, in Portuguese, they left Close-up, and we understand that the right, is Macro.
We don't know Close-up. LOL

Blacklac says:

Cause cell phones don't take macro shots. They take close up shots. There is a technical difference, even though everyone calls a closeup, macros.

These days I set Nokia Camera as default camera :):)
the best thing about the nokia camera is , you can manually focus the Camera :)
Awesome,
waiting for windows phone 8.1 !!!

abduz says:

I also noticed it gives sharper results (using Nokia Camera Beta Lumia 920)

ladydias says:

Hm, I usually just use Proshot for advanced settings and call it a day. Nokia Camera is good but not my fave.

cannon#WP says:

Yea, I use default for quick pics and ProShot for advanced pics. I've only ever opened Nokia Cam once.

rogerhew says:

Will it be better or as good as Nokia camera ?

neo158 says:

It doesn't have to be though as lenses add functionality to the camera so all the default camera app has to provide is the basics.

Wael Hasno says:

..totally pointless. This quote is only funny when used correctly.

TechAbstract says:

Microsoft or built in camera is faster to open than Nokia camera

theroyboy44 says:

Nah because when he launched the camera app it cam up faster even when he went to take burst shots

is burst mode there in windows phone 8 cam?
and is it possible to take videos in 480p or less in 8.1 rather than just the 720p and 1080p right now in lumia 720 and above?

rockstarzzz says:

Get app called Blink. Use blink lens in your camera app after that.

IceDree says:

Not yet. But its coming in the new update.
Get an app called BLINK (made by Microsoft) , it takes shots in a burst mode (720p res) & then you can save one or multiple shots ... & you can create animated GIFs. As long as you don't delete the Burst shots, you can always return to each collection & edit it.

kinpin2131 says:

This guy makes the most boring videos lol, can they get someobody elese to do the leaks? 

Tafsern says:

Or can't we just wait and not reveal all the surprise's?

theroyboy44 says:

I'm pretty sure that there is so much more to show, because they seem very curated, the leaks that is.....eg when they showed cortana voice assistant they never let you hear her voice, even though I'm really hoping its the same actor or at least a very good imitator of the original actor for Cortana's voice (sorry I digress) but yea I'm pretty sure there's loads more

theroyboy44 says:

Plus if you can remember there was an article about being able to reply to texts without actually opening up the messaging app (there said it was confirmed but its actually implementation could go either way, it was a 5 or their rum-o-meter) so I do think there is so much more to be unveiled!! (at least I hope so but honestly even if there isn't what we have coming is already huge so I could careless if this was literally all of it!)(also Microsoft if you are reading this....please alphabetize the settings or give an option to arrange because I truly don't see the logic and if anyone else does please explain it to me!)

Hoss98 says:

I agree with catogarizing the settings menue they should make it like the email app when you tap a contact all the messages from him appear under him they should make it similar to that

 

and I like that essay :D

theroyboy44 says:

Hahaha lol yea sometimes I got more to say than what I thought lol

Wael Hasno says:

They are boring for a reason. Leave some surprises for later PLUS not overdo it and risk having Microsoft after him.

theroyboy44 says:

Guarantee he is with Microsoft!

Yeah, he really needs a tripod and a plan for what he's doing to do. The video bounces around and focuses in & out, while he's repeating functions and bouncing around too.

Tips_y says:

They are just leaks - don't expect full production when they made those videos.

A steady hand/tripod/a stick & duct tape... anyone can make a decent video. Its not like he's hiding in Belfiore's closet trying to make the video before he's found.

rockstarzzz says:

Less than 20 days left guys! :)

From ecosystem perspective; Nokia will take months to push it to all WP devices worldwide, which really indeed very annoying.

Is possible to Nokia Camera be updated to add burst mode? This is the only thing I will miss from the MS Camera...

Corvodin says:

There already is a burst mode in nokia camera.

theroyboy44 says:

You do realize that smart camera is burst mode right.... If you open the picture in your photos hub underneath says open in Nokia Camera and that will let you choose best photo, choose best face (they should add face swap), action shot and I think two more.....also if you take a shot with smart camera it should take you to this menu automaticall if you back out of it you can just like the circle crop of the photo that shows up next to the photos hub icon

aerosmillie says:

Any sign of HDR?

dkp23 says:

Didnt like how nokia camera took the front facing option out from the default UI and putting it in the 3 dot settings.  Annoying, or at least i dont see how you can toggle FFC from the default screen. 

theroyboy44 says:

Agree....it adds a step but I got over it....kinda

herbertsnow says:

I almost never use the camera.

truly_sk says:

Windows Phone 8.1 is kickass! Can't wait..

btgusto says:

I use Nokia cam as my default.  I just wish they would combine all the camera apps.  Stock camera is better for getting to the "lens" faster but i like Nokia UI better

PolishHitta says:

Love how all features of WP 8.1 has been completely revamped

leokime94 says:

Oh yeah!! Me too!! I just can't wait!! :|

Aashish13 says:

The features leaked aren't enough then it means more to come

awneze says:

Nokia camera UI still better, this looks boring and too many menu popups

theroyboy44 says:

It looked like you can cut down on the menu pop ups from the video....I had the same clustered feeling the first time

neo158 says:

Remember, this just provides the basics as the lenses are there to provide extra functionality.

neonspark says:

he's not talking about that. he is talking about the fact the nokia app overlays menus on the image for a live preview, trying to get out of the way of your composition...while the MSFT app thinks you're making a cake and are just inputting the ingredients. Goes to show that MSFT plain doesn't understand the first thing about photography: the image is king.

These guys could really use a tripod, with the video constantly moving & focusing it was hard to watch.

Tips_y says:

These things are leaks - they're not meant to be full production videos so... 

A steady hand/tripod/a stick & duct tape... anyone can make a decent video. Its not like he's hiding in Belfiore's closet trying to make the video before he's found.
...
I love copy/paste.

Samst22 says:

The thing I took from this video... No landscape mode for Start screen yet :(.

This is saved for Build conference, i hope. hehe

theroyboy44 says:

I've always felt like it should happen but I've never actually articulated it lol, but I wonder if that would be a huge deal or not..in terms of coding?

neonspark says:

as a programmer, I can tell you that a freaking list of tiles can easily scroll both ways. MSFT just want to tell you that you're holding it wrong.

theroyboy44 says:

Hahaha lol the ever present design that wants to design for you and tell you how to use it lol! I would like to see the tiles rotate, and with the action center it'll be easy to lock rotation without going thru to many menus!

In my phone these days, burst mode is automatic!!! I'm getting 2-3pics in my camera roll when i take pic by nokia camera.....
of couse I'm totally frustrated with this stupid bug....
anybody can help me out?? Plz....
I'm gonna throw my phone....L820

Credo93 says:

Chill dude, if u had the problem i had then you could throw you're phone, since i installed Pro Camera on my 920, i can not make low light pictures anymore, the pictures look very dark, even with the default camera. I tried alot, uninstall the app, resetting my phone, soft and hardreset, nopes, nada, when my 1520 arrives i'm sending it to Nokia Care :)

nez99 says:

Was hoping to see video settings that could be dropped a lot lower than 720p fir easy sharing

jailman says:

Maybe this is not the final build

theroyboy44 says:

I agree but I doubt the final build will be very different maybe a feature difference here or there

Aashish13 says:

Can i reduce the volume while watching videos on u tube in 8.1 with action centre

trmnrs says:

I really hope Microsoft brings stereo recording to all Windows Phones.
I love Nokia Camera, but with this camera update I wouldn't necessarily need it unless I'm tinkering with the shutter speed and focal points, which I rarely do. And the app starts up way too slow for me to capture a moment quickly, even on my Lumia 1520.
I only use the Nokia Camera app for the amazing advantage stereo recording has on Lumia phones. It really makes a difference.

Still no pause button on video

WixosTrix says:

Like, to pause while recording?

Aashish13 says:

Windows phone will become the best for business now.

neonspark says:

in 1998, I attached a non picture file to an email. In 2014, I still can't do that on windows phone....business huh?

atkulp says:

Guy needs to turn off autofocus!

And get a tripod.

DJCBS says:

This will be nice for those 5 people with non-Nokia WP devices...XD

Rem97 says:

Yup, and I guess I'm 1 of them 5 who's going to enjoy it.

theroyboy44 says:

+1 Lol nice dude

And the ones who's Nokia's don't work well with the Nokia Camera. Video capture is terrible with Nokia Camera on my 822, but works fine with the default Microsoft camera.

theroyboy44 says:

I just hope they have a way to add filters to the camera, similar to iPhone, now before we get butt hurt with bring up iPhone its actually pretty handy because certain shots that you want a certain way can be done faster without having to use a secondary app.

theroyboy44 says:

But most importantly I really hope it allows you to take photos while recording, idk how many times I've wanted to get a still while recording!!!

dmmuldoon says:

Did anyone notice it says Microsoft camera instead of Nokia Camera???

borasar says:

probably cause it's a stock camera app that comes with the OS across all devices and not a camera app that comes only on the Lumias that is made by Nokia

neonspark says:

good thing Nokia's phone division, which creates the camera app still independent. oh wait.

AndrewL920 says:

The only thing I care about Windows Phone 8.1 is the Camera Improvement. I hope the blurry and yellowish result or post processing will be removed. 

aromal_tc says:

Does pause and zoom options for video???

where is slow motion video recording :(

shishirdbhat says:

I still like the WP7 camera UI the best. Especially the part where it shows a bit of the recently taken photo to the left. But this is an improvement I guess.

donebrasko says:

Will we be able to separate recorded videos and pictures? We need a video tab!!!!!

neonspark says:

HA HA. yeah. Funny thing is if you drill down in the windows phone FS, there is a VIDEO folder lol but there is anything but videos there because they are all in the pictures folder. I want to know who at MSFT can't figure out how to do this and still have a job. I understand their interview process is very tough...well apparently once you're in, you really don't have to try hard.

Just bad... Actual is better. Same problems, anyway.

mados123 says:

Now just add Microsoft Camera (or Nokia Camera) to the URI Association Scheme list so I can launch it from my custom developed app and we'll be golden!

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windowsphone/develop/jj662937%28...

http://developer.nokia.com/community/wiki/URI_Association_Schemes_List

still there's no ability to pause a video while recording and resume it agin..!! :(

Dafter says:

Looks great, but Nokia Camera is the one for me. :)

neonspark says:

too bad that division is owned by MS now so get it while you can. they are about to MS it:

1) replace intuitive live interface with previews with a zune like drill down

2) use 250 type fonts so you can use your phone from a mile away

3) require it you to drill in, change, drill out, preview, drill in change, drill out preview because you know, every picture can always be re-taken as many time as needed and there is no such thing as a momment in time.

2tomtom says:

I'm hoping no drill in changes, that would be a backwards step in comparison to the Nokia camera!

- Please put a info on pictures, we can't see the size,resolution,time etc. in pictures
- Change the location of delete button to the front
- Add a scroll bar for Gallery/Photos (that's really confusing when u gotta go down for some mins to find a photo)
- Add in-app search option for apps like Music+Videos!

2tomtom says:

I can get the details on photos by using Onedeive, details on phone and Surface RT.

krAnthi209 says:

Is it really that difficult to include a PAUSE option along with stop in the video recording mode? microsoft...come on!!

birgs says:

Super clever....

neonspark says:

uh, nokia pro camera user here. no it ain't.

birgs says:

Pause and continue video recording also good abilities.

birgs says:

ApplicationBariconbutton click navigate to picture gallery also good,,,

chydii says:

This is off topic but does anyone know if MS is gonna enable document attachment in emails with the forthcoming Wp8.1?

neonspark says:

let's see, it is 2014 and everybody else has done that for 2 years. So yeah, basically they should be about to this year. but let's not get crazy here, nobody needs to attach antyhing other than images. WP is for the hyp crowdz

MrA2Z says:

We want some implementation which can sort pics in different folders. All photos taken by camera are just sitting in camera roll folder. Its pain to find something or show some specific photos to someone else. We are waiting for this basic functionality since the days of WP7. Now don't suggest me to sort out them on pc.

2tomtom says:

OneDrive?

Storyteller?

neonspark says:

so this is going to replace the nokia camera app? looks horrendous! First of all, typical MSFT, it has to many taps do do anything and those drill downs into their awful HUGE TEXT MENU system feel like taking a step back 5 years and using a zune HD at 150ppi.

second, you can tell it was designed by engineers with zero inpu tfrom photographers, unlike the nokia pp. For instance all those settings are accessible in the nokia while viewing the image using clever overlays and disks because photography is about seeing what it looks like and adjusting instead of following a robotic pre-cooked list of steps which is how MSFT thinks you should use this.

they are just going in circles. poor guys.

ScubaDog says:

Those changes are nice, but there's no way I'm deviating from the Nokia Camera.  It beats every other camera experience.

b0blight says:

I know this is unrelated. But. Does anyone knows if Battery Management will be better in WP8.1 ? Besides battery sense, do we get better battery usage or what ? My current and biggest gripe about WP now is the horrible battery management on my 920. 

Vega625 says:

<Hypothesis> MS/Nokia are preparing the after WP8.1, how ? In my opinion yes all the actual WP8 devices wil upgrade to the WP8.1, but, not all the features will be there for the outcasted 512Mb RAM. Why ? Because they're preparing the next generation of WP, how so ? By releasing new devices with up to 1Gb of RAM, (525 already), then 630,635,725,the reste of the line up is up to1Gb RAM. <Hypothesis> Let's discuss :)