Windows Phone Facebook AT&T Nokia Lumia riddle

Windows Phone Facebook Riddle

Ran across a Facebook posting by Windows Phone saying "Our Live Tiles may be trying to tell us something". The posting pictures a magenta AT&T Nokia Lumia 900 with the Phone Tile is displaying "10", the Linked Inbox an "11" and the Messaging Tile a "12".

The obvious thought is October 11, 2012, which is today. But so far all is quiet on the AT&T news front.  But many format their dates day/month/year which would put the date November 10, 2012. Up until this little riddle, the strong school of thought has the new Lumias landing on Sunday, November 4th. Which fits AT&T's launch habits (the 10th is the following Saturday).

Could this be the new launch date for the AT&T Lumia 920 and 820? Or are we reading too much into things and the Live Tiles simply telling us that it's 54 degrees in Redmond? 

We'll poke around and see what we can come up with but in the meantime, there's a discussion going on over in the WPCentral Forums on what this riddle could mean. Feel free to chime in and let us know your guess.



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Bushybro says:

Is the time also 10:11?

Bushybro says:

That would mean today at 10:11 pm, maybe

rightisray says:

More lkely November 11th.  The US is the only nation that puts the month before the day.

stoickiwi says:

This is on an AT&T Lumia though.

rightisray says:

True, maybe they just thought the date was cool...

ealexand#CB says:

Maybe ad was maude by Nokia and they flubbed it

schlubadub says:

+1. I was going to say "many"? Try "everyone except the US" :P

jcagga says:

No, US is not the only nation who puts month before day. For reals?>??!

simphf says:

That would be 11/11/12. November is the 11th month.

shotokq says:

maybe they wanted us to look at the photos...http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151085068938772&set=a.107698418771.94817.8195378771&type=1&permPage=1 maybe this is the nokia lumia 910 to be reveal in november 10 2012

Bushybro says:

10/11/12 @10:11pm

Conasca says:

I think you might be on to something here...

Also, it is a Lumia 900. Maybe there will be incentives or a buy back program for those of us with a 900 to get at 920?

toyotast165 says:

Don't toy with me lol

Sumit8 says:

much rather the launch date of Windows 7.8

Bushybro says:


I fucking hope so.

Ordeith says:

10- October, phone announced.
11-November, available with VoIP integration
12-December, Xbox new dash with DLNA

Quin 2013 says:

Hmm, good one.

That would be unbelievably awesome! I'm getting the 920 anyways, but would appreciate it... A lot

tylers86 says:

Well since it's the 900 in the photo, and it seems the new Lumia's will come out on Nov. 4th, I would say its more suggestive of the 900 getting the 7.8 update on November 10.

blackprince says:

I would expect not since MSFT has said that 7.8 won't be coming out long after 8.0 drops. I'm expecting January 2013 for 7.8

I don't recall them saying 'long.' Let's hope it's 7.8 - though there sure aren't any 7.8 tiles on that phone.

paulheu says:

The wording was 'some time' after WP8 release.

beefydragon says:

They may be forced to release 7.8 to coincide with windows 8 compatibility of the companion app.

Agent-P says:

This was my thought too. Id they were hinting the Lumia 920 release, why wouldn't they use that in the photo?

Same. I hope it is the 7.8 date. And I hope the 920 comes the 4th.

Jf.Vigor says:

I think if they were hinting at the 7.8 update then the screen would be the new start screen

mccasive says:

It's funny how people read meanings to everything they see. Today is October eleventh, 2012 (10-11-12) and many people are displaying this on their Facebook, even some Radio stations are making some noise about it because they the sequence 10,11,12 as it appears in the American date format is cool. This definitely has nothing to do with any phone release date.

J4rrod says:

Yes, definitely, because you work for MS

cheesemoo says:

This is what I was thinking

blackprince says:

Curiouser and Curiouser.

JoeDizzle33 says:

Great Alice in Wonderland quote.

Maybe it means that today is a cool date. 10/11/12. :-D

baileystein says:

In America, nobody uses 11/10/2012 as today's date.

Bushybro says:

I agree, being that it's US. Guess I won't be going to bed till 10:12, LOL

But what about Finland (home of Nokia)

Nakazul says:

12-10-11 for Scandinavia. (year, month, day)

beefydragon says:

That would make it 2010? Lol!

A magenta Lumia 920 maybe is on the way sometime next year??

No. They have a red.

Bushybro says:

Its an ATT lumia, so it should be US date format and plus the time is also interesting

guillams says:

Sounds logical @tylers86

VagrantWade says:

Pretty sure it has to be October 10th. AT&T is an American company. Why would they do a date format virtually not used at all in the US.

aubreyq says:

November 10, you mean.

He meant October 11, today.

VagrantWade says:

No... 10/11/2012 is October 11th in US date format.

I don't want to wait longer. November 4 is far enough. I think this is the 7.8 release.

Bushybro says:

Really hope its not the Facebook app, don't even use it. Get us all.hyped over Facebook, I hope not

Why the fuck would it be the Facebook app?

chad08er says:

This was posted on there Facebook page and soon after the app was pulled from the marketplace, maybe there is a big update coming.

masaga91 says:

mmmmm there is also whatsapp in the pic, and whatsapp was also pulled from the marketplace......

Quin 2013 says:

Their. Not there.

petibear says:

and 54 in Fahrenheit is 12 in Celsius ...

VagrantWade says:

They aren't hinting at anything.
They are just showing how today is 10 11 12

I thought that too.

KarateDad says:

Wow, you are really working this one.  It was 10/11/12 as in Oct 11, 2012.  Period.  It was just cool.  It was all over the web today.

sholokov says:

We all have too much time on our hands...

ThePKReddy says:

You're all reading too much into it.

Clearly it has to do with the slash hat on the girl

Well the US spans 3 time zones, so if the time is the significant thing here, would it be 10:11 PDT, CDT or EDT?

VagrantWade says:

No. Today is 10/11/12 On the calendar. That is all.

jaethos says:

Uh, the continental U.S. spans 4 time zones. Eastern, Central, Mountain and Pacific.

Bushybro says:

Lol, if u look at Redmond's weather, its supposed to be 54 degrees at the 10 o'clock hour, shit u not

Bushybro says:

*took off tin foil hat* :'(

Att will launch Microsoft surface phone r tablet

Then why show a Nokia phone?

spraTTmk1 says:

Nokia knows when the rapture is lolz

barry.weston says:

7.8 I am hoping.

holby1 says:

I here the Facebook app is missing from the marketplace. Maybe just an app update. :(

Wtf do u need a Facebook app for on a windows phone lol

Extra functionality, obviously. That should be easy enough for a child to realize. Or even me, who doesn't have a Facebook, yet it's still as obvious as the sun in the sky.

cybrtitan says:

Launch/announcement of pink lumia 900 with 7.8 preloaded free on contract?

yggdron says:

It could simply be an annoucement of a mangenta colored lumia 920 on 10/11/12 at 5:40 PST. 
Or it could just be a quip about the date today being 10/11/12

Landsharkk says:

Does the 54 mean its only going to cost $54 USD?  
I want to believe!

Laura Knotek says:

I doubt if it means anything. If it were a European carrier, it probably would mean something due to how dates are written. However, it's simply today's date in the customary way people in the US write dates.

1414H77 says:

Windows phone to 10%, 11%, and then 12% market share.

ThePKReddy says:

Yup. All in October lol

Cellus13 says:

It'll probably be nothing important. Until then we all have to wait and see.

di_Genius says:

Its tonight at 10:11 since am is already gone look at the clock whatever it is.

It's a Facebook app update!

stephen_az says:

The carrier is identified as AT&T which would suggest one is speaking of the US market.  While "many format dates differently" the US convention is neither European nor British Commonwealth, it is Month/Day/Year.  If Nokia can't figure that part out, they shouldn't even try the make it in the US market.  It would also make very little sense for Nokia to announce anything regarding the new phones on the screen of the old one.  There are already a lot of irritated people (unjustified though they may be) regarding the fact that the 900 series is not upgradeable to WP8. 

Adiliyo says:

you're reading too much into it, it's just a picture for today which (in the US) is 10.11.12.

Ecurb87 says:

I'd say nothing.

webby7 says:

7.8 update?

Higgs Boson says:

C'mon guys... Everyone knows that 10+11-12=9 which when divided by the #of cores in a snapdragon s4 processor but added to the screen size of a 920 minus the 8.0 megapixels of a lumia 822 times the 41 megapixels of an 808 subtracting the maximum volume of a 710 =the 11th day of the month that starts with THE SAME LETTER AS THE WORD... NOKIA. Boom!! November 11th: lumia pure view tablet. You're welcome.

Jf.Vigor says:

Amazing like your name

Adiliyo says:

That was great!

blackprince says:

I bow to you sir/madam

simphf says:

You could bitch slap Steven Hawking with that kind of math. /sarcasm

endacrowley says:

Lmfao at Higgs Boson. I love these hints by Nokia.

Micfur says:

Yup, the Facebook app got pulled, must be a huge update to the Facebook app, wow........

I'm not saying I know, but why would it be Facebook?

Verkunder says:

Yes! Half Life 2: Episode 3!

I hope they make one. Love that game.

el-ojo says:

Anyone know what the app showing the weather is called?

thirdday2002 says:

Hmmm...based on the shadow behind the phone, I think they're hinting at the fact that Nokia is going into the window blinds and shades business, lol. Seriously though, I think you guys are reading into this too much. Happy 10/11/12!

rhodri22 says:

The numbers all add up to make 54 - 10+11+10+11+12... Spooky...

cardingtr says:

Its a countdown, today is 10th day before the big day, Oct 21st.

AceOfClubs says:

MS Office 2013 RTM Date,   

starblade876 says:

There's also lightning on the weather tile... They're going to send out a signal to the phones to electrocute people talking on the phone using Xbox's Internet Explorer! :-O
You're welcome.

jmshub says:

The lightning is representative of Tesla's proposed wireless electric grid...which is seen today in a far less grandiose scale as the wireless charging on a Lumia 920.

Tomasz S. says:

"But many format their dates day/month/year" - yeah duuuh, like every sane person. Month/day/year just doesn't make any sense.

jaethos says:

Sure it does, that's how we say the date in the U.S., so that's how we write it too. We don't say the 11th of October, we say October 11th. It makes perfect sense.

Tomasz S. says:

No, it doesn't make any sense to write those numbers in the wrong order. Your are writing it wrong and you should feel wrong.

Your a moron. Quit trolling.

vladnc says:

You're doing it wrong. Also, please use Celsius and kilometers like the rest of the world.

blackprince says:

Silly European vs North American fights. There is a thing called cultural differences and we should just accept them.

schlubadub says:

By "European" you mean "The rest of the entire world", as the US is the only country to write their dates backwards

blackprince says:

Either way its silly to fight about it constantly, we aren't kids in a sandbox fighting over the Tonka truck.

Tomasz S. says:

We don't have do fight, you only have to admit that you are doin' it wrong.

jaethos says:

I already explained why we do it and why it makes sense, if my explanation was too complicated for you then I'm sorry, but I don't know how to explain it in a dumber manner.

Tomasz S. says:

No, you are not making any sense. Here's why: http://static.lolyard.com/lol/imperial-system.jpg

Murgatroyd7 says:

We're a teenage nation rebelling against our lame parents, which is why we insist on being different.  Also, we're pregnant and we took your car out last night and scratched the passenger-side door.  No, no, not that side...

OGCF says:

I don't think it's a hint. Their Twitter account posted the same pic but said something like "you realize its a working day on 10-11-12".

What's a 'Linked Inbox'? I've noticed it in the photo.

A Linked inbox is combining 2 or more accounts into one.

Tomasz S. says:

And the stupid "linked inbox" name fortunately is customizable. You can change it to "Mail" or whatever.

lippidp says:

Enough with the riddles. They need to release information and cut the crap.

moc426 says:

It's just today's date.
They posted it on twitter too ->

The link doesn't work, but it isn't your fault. The app itself automatically makes the text all lowercase.

Arun3 says:

Well it seems today, that is 10/11/12 is National Coming Out Day here in the US. Also, it's when 10.11.12 consecutive numbers come one after tge other naturally.. :)

Cellus13 says:

+1 for national coming out day :D

Arun3 says:


cammsaul says:

It's an AT&T Lumia, so... 
10 + 11 + 12 (the tiles) = 33
54 (the degrees) - 33 = 21, hinting that Lumia 920 pre-orders for AT&T will start on the 21st.

Adiliyo says:

+1 internet's for you

Everyone is reading way too much into this.

Solidstate89 says:

You're reading way too much into it. It's just a kitchy post they made on their Facebook page - nothing more, nothing less.

mrdeezus says:

Maybe a countdown to the preorder date...

aubreyq says:

There's nothing here except the silly 10/11/12 gag.

jjMustang says:

The date. The city. The time. What's App. The color.

lubbalots says:


If u don't like WPCentral, leave. You don't have to pay to come here, so stop complaining. Go read the crap WMPowerUser or AAWP.

jdevenberg says:

Posted by MS with an AT&T device.  Both American companies.  Why wouldn't that be using the American date system again?  If this were on the Nokia Facebook page this might hold some water but it isn't.

Bushybro says:

If this turns out to be nothing, then at least we had some fun. U at least get to see how creative the mind can be :-)

Napster134 says:

Hmm im thinking October eleventh 2012... Right around 10:11 in the AM...

MaulerX says:

Well, at least we know that At&T can count from 10 to 12. The next time that will happen will be on Nov. 12 2013 (11-12-13).

simphf says:

Or in non-America the 10th of November 2012 (10/11/12, D/M/Y)

VagrantWade says:

AT&T is an American company...so yea.

Napster134 says:

They prove something new every year... Wonder what they'll do when they need to prove to us they can count to 14.. :/

Yes it was around 50 here today

monigal2 says:

They need to stop playing games and announced stuff!!

Iczer1 says:

Exchange 2013 and Office 2013 RTM'ed today. Guessing that's the reference?

vitaliano says:

That's how you keep up interest on a slooow day

simphf says:

It all adds up to 108. Need I type moar?

thirdday2002 says:

4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42

uopjo6 says:

It simply means they need to pick up the damn phone.

Oh look, nothing happened! damn windows phone and your silly antics!! ;)

djctz says:

We will find out eventually

monigal2 says:

Did anybody here about anything? Lol!

man1up says:

Just maintaining relevance. Bet listing prices & availability would have been more clever...

bauerbach says:

redmond is PST
the facebook post was at 10:11PST on 10/11/12
now... either that is all it was intended to mean, a cute photo of a unique time and date.
Or... 10:11PM PST isnt for another 30minutes yet.
but I cant fathom a company making any significant announcement at just about the worst possible hour for both US and Europe.  

BTA73 says:

Could it have anything to do with AT&T dropping the Lumia 900 price to $0.99 from $49.99?  I saw they changed the price on a new 900 since yesterday.

dinchy87 says:

10:11 forms on every rounded analog clock an happy face (smilie) thats an psychological and marketing trick.

Sumit8 says:

"But many format their dates day/month/year which would put the date November 10, 2012."
MAny? EVERYONE EXCEPT THE US! At least everyone who uses the metric system. I said it before and i'll say it again: the US sucks big time for not using the metric system.

wpguy says:

Everyone claiming MDY or DMY order is wrong. You just don't want to admit it. The one true correct order is YMD, both for consistency with standard time order (largest to smallest unit), and because text representation sorts without pesky conversions.

Now move along; nothing else to see here.

gfunk84 says:

YMD is indeed best (and how I have the date format set on my WP). Sad to see this doesn't look like an option in WP8 anymore.

Viipottaja says:

Rolling thunder in/from Washington state!

TheOHouse says:

Probably 10:11 PDT

larrybon says:

Lumia 900 price drop, end of story.

Who's phone is this? 10 missed calls, 11 emails, 12 messages, weather alert and still haven't checked? LOL

kcovert says:

They should have a countdown going, drive everybody crazy

Murgatroyd7 says:

Gasp!  The predicted that day's date!