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Report: Windows Phone Update 3 enables powered-off charging for the HTC 8X, 8XT

Another gripe about Windows Phone has been resolved with Update 3 on the HTC 8X

Most pundits and tech enthusiasts tend to agree that Windows Phone 8 is a really good operating system. What it is missing are lots of little things that can annoy some users and keep it from being perfect. The GDR revisions, like the recent Update 3, go a long way in filling in those gaps to deliver an improved user experience.

One of the grievances that people have about Windows Phone is the inability to charge the device and to have it powered-off at the same time. Windows Phone is unique here, since most phones allow you to power down the device and then to plug it in to charge. It’s a great method to max out your recharging power (since you’re not operating the radio), and it’s also a way to get some quiet time, while being useful.

HTC 8X Update 3 chargingReports are coming in, and Windows Phone Central has been able to confirm, that the HTC 8X, which recently began receiving Update 3 globally and on AT&T, has finally resolved this issue.

The website Windows Phone Italy first reported on the new finding and our George Ponder was able to verify it on his AT&T branded HTC 8X (with Update 3 installed).

Assuming users have installed Windows Phone 8 Update 3 (build 10501), powering the device down and then plugging it in will result in the following behavior:

  • HTC 8X vibrates as if it was powering up, but the screen stays black
  • The HTC splash screen appears
  • Then a battery icon
  • The phone will not boot into the OS

While a seemingly trivial thing, this feature will sure make a lot of users happy. The change, isolated so far to the HTC 8X, is most likely a configuration in that device’s firmware and not the OS itself. Instead, Microsoft most likely enabled the feature in the OS, but left it up to manufacturers to enable the feature, should they choose so.

Hopefully Nokia and Samsung will allow the option in their forthcoming firmware, as we’re guessing many of your will want this new feature.

Update: Also confirmed as a feature for the Sprint HTC 8XT, which received Update 3 last week.

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Report: Windows Phone Update 3 enables powered-off charging for the HTC 8X, 8XT

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Weird.... I must be weird.... My phone hasn't been off in 6 months... When it did run out way back then i plugged it in to turn it on....

My friend with a galaxy s4 asks me how often do I have to reboot the phone because of lagging. I tried so hard not to laugh at him. :) It's been months.

LOL! I don't think Android users understand the concept of a device that doesn't crash. But I wouldn't mind having the ability to charge my phone while it's off.

Hi i have to say this, even my li.ia 925 lags dome times, twice it got stuck in the middle of listening songs, even i cant restart my phone when it got stuck, it got stuck for more than 40 mins , so sad in 40 min i couldn't do anything

The Android-phone I had before my Lumia 1020, never crashed or froze. The Lumia randomely restarts, freezes and crashes, and from doing some searches on google, it seems like a pretty common problem across several different windows phones.

Not a single crash, freeze or auto-restart on my Lumia 920, sorry. Maybe you bought a defective Lumia 1020 and the only solutions are:

A) Reset the phone and see if these random restarts and crashes persist. None of those means your phone is OK, just that it have corrupted system software that needs reinstallation.

B) If your phone still auto-restart, freeze apps and crash, just find your point of purchase or your nearest Nokia Care center and have it repaired or replaced.

Also the Lumia 1020 has Nokia Amber+Windows Phone 8 GDR2 pre-installed so I don't know if Navifirm has the Lumia 1020 version of Amber or if Nokia Software Updater will allow you reinstall the software in the phone.

Microsoft says it's a bug in the OS, and that they are releasing a fix for it before the end of the year.
When searching the internets, it seems the issue affects both Samsung and HTC as well, and has bin a known bug after win 8 was released.

I had to read it twice to see if I'm actually getting it right. You talk about a problem, someone offers you a few solutions and you reply back talking about how big that problem is. What's the point here?

My android friend was shocked when I was able to scroll our text chat back a few months to find that one pic he sent me a long time ago... He was like, how can you keep a text chat for so long without crashing??

had 920 and its wonderful gears of wonder went brick on me and i had to reboot within a month with my 928...so i didnt laugh.thanks for playing guy....i love my windowsbthough.

I want it to be an option in the settings, hopefully Nokia makes it as a feature the user can control and not a mandatory change.
 

Why does it need to be an option? If you don't want it just either turn the phone on or don't turn it off... Please can we all stop asking for every minute change to be an option in settings - it only complicates things on an OS designed to be simplified...

Agreed.
 
Even though personally I like knowing that my phone is never off when it's plugged in (doesn't get simpler than that, especially helpful after it's discharged completely and I put it on the charger, knowing I don't have to wait around to turn it on again), making this an option in settings would be ridiculous. The list of settings is already getting unwieldy for just one page.

No,, It would be nice to be able to change the setting to completly power off, or automatically power on, our devices. And, the fact that we are debating this means that there needs to be a option in settings under "Battery Saver". More toggles under the current list of settings would in no way complicate, or cluter the OS. I myself, can see where I would use both settings.

Your logic is, user A wants X, let's add it.  If user A wants X, but user B disagrees, this is proof that we should add it.  Under what circumstance do we not give use A what he wants?

No. My logic is that if enough people want it one way, or another, it should warrant an option.. You're making it sound like I believe that every, and anything, people request should be implemented, rather I'm saying that if WP has had a way of working for years, and a lot of users have gotten use to the way it functions, and see value in it, then don't entirely change it up. Give us options.. So, this is circumstantial, and in this case it is valid..

I need to be a option because It's the unique way to turn on my mobile when turn off, due to my turn off button is damaged. It's not complicated an option by this requeriment, right?

Speeking of charging. Since I got update 2 on my 920 it has been making random charging alerts while on the charging pad in the middle of the night... Anybody have a clue why?

Mine didn't start making the charging sound frantically until gdr3 L920.
For what its worth, I don't see the importance of the feature. I don't think I've ever truly powered off my phone since I got it release date November. Am I the weird one? :/

Mine makes that sound at night but I thought it was because it was on my wireless charger. I figured that when it was fully charged, the phone sensed this and stopped charging. But since the phone stayed in standby, the battery was slowly draining and once the battery got down to a certain threshold, the charger started charging again. That's my theory anyway.

Mine chirps all the time unless I have the phone in standby. If I get a text or notification that temporarily wakes the phone, its starts chirping again. At least now I know it is not a defective charger

Yeah, it alerts like its not positioned on the charger correctly... Can't they poll something's before they make changes to see if they should change things or not.. Oh wait❕ That's where options would come on handy❗

I used to do this on my Windows Mobile devices all the time when my battery was close to dead... It charges the battery about 20% faster...

Now that is good reason for the feature.  Although, I would like keep my phone on when charging, it I need to charge it quicker, this is the way to go.  Seems like a simply thing and I am sure that Nokia will enable it with Black.

Barely any power at all. The radio is what operates the most on standby. If the screen is off, and the radio is off, it would take more than a week to drain the battery, with radio on, it would drain in 2 days, so its really effective to turn radio off if you want to quickly charge your phone.

Enable an already programmed and available feature vs. develop a currently non-existent feature from scratch... unfortunately not even comparable, even though I am waiting for this file manager more than you, thats sure :)

Wish this was on the 920. Despite the fact that we have more consistency than Android, fragmentation still exist on this platform (to an extent) and I hate it

It HAS to be firmware (or like the article said, firmware-enabled), since I did the GDR3 dev update on my Verizon 8X and it lacks the feature. Either that, or Microsoft wasn't very truthful about their dev program.

Very interesting; I am not a fan of this as I rarely turn my phone off but I did find it odd that it powered up when plugged into a charger (plugged in when it was powered off).
Baby steps . . . . if we can keep getting 3+ updates a year then we should be able to finally get some of these little features added.

Me neither....there's no real need for it unless you're the sort of person who gets harassed by calls and messages all night, in which case I understand...

Yeah, and for those there's airplane mode.

I like knowing that if the phone is on the charger it is on. Simple.

"Hitting the hay" Love it! I will use that tonight!
 
"Hun....I'm about to hit the hay"
 
Wait.....doesn't that mean "smoking" in some parts of the world???
Gosh....nevermind....

The only things that bother me with WP are the little ones, and unfortunately the list is long...
- Group recently called
- Back out of app to home, not into another app (I know the new change, but its still counter intuitive)
- The unnecessary space between the top of screen and first row of tiles (icons do not need that much space... Makes OS look unfinished.
- Lack of independent volume control for games, ring, notification, etc (Very annoying)
- actionable notifications.... Heck Notifications (swipe right would get my vote)
- Skype.... What Skype? Why would anyone use Skype on WP when you have other messaging apps fo a much better job.
- and numerous other little niggles make it a somewhat frustrating and unrewarding experience....

I know changes are coming, but have to admit it is slooooooow!
Its been 3+ years.....
I am putting this out as criticism, hopefully positive...

Back out of apps *does* go to thr home screen. It's specifically designed so it does that after your current app, and then not between the rest of the apps in your back stack. But to be fair there's a button for that: the Start button.
Toast notifications are actionable, and then it's up to the devs to decide what happens when you launch the app from a tile that has missed notifications on it. Obviously not a notification centre, but there's some onus on the third party devs here as well.
Most of the others I agree with.

I understand what you are saying. If I have 3 apps running, and try to back out of one it goes into the app in use prior to that. I know the home button exists, but that is what I do not like about the iPhone. WP has done what iOS does and complicated it with a back button.... just my thouhts.
The toast notifications are actionable if you see them. What about toast from an app not pinned. There is nothing a 3rd party dev can do for that. (you are not implying we have all apps pinned to home screen, are you)

Not quite. It will go back through the current app's backstack, then to your home screen, then to the app used before that, and from then on it won't go to the home screen.

Like I said, what I'm saying isn't a replacement for a notification centre, but the developer does have the ability to do something like launch a notifications area of their app when the tile has unread notifications, for example. No, I'm not saying your should pin all your apps, but for the ones that are pinned the devs can help.

I HATE that my text message notification overlay on the top of everything. I'm watching a movie, playing a game, browsing the web or anything else and BOOM there is the blue bar that stays up there WAAAYYYYY too long.

I don't want to see it at all. Worse, when I am giving on device demos to potential WP buyers, I get a text from my wife and kids and its like panic mode...grabbing the phone as quickly as possible. I would like an option to disable the notification AND one to customize the notifications:

Notification Bar: On or Off
Display Notification For: 1-Infinite seconds

Show Notification Content:
Full Message example :Hey hun, please get some milk.
Limit character amount example: Hey hun...
Simple Notification: You Have A New Message!

That would be great in my humble opinion.

So swiping it away gives me the option to customize the notification bar or turn them off completely? I don't believe swiping the notification away addresses my concerns.

Thank you and ahmedjan87 for the information though.

Well, they should. A lot of other OSs has that and its quite useful. If I turn my phone off for the night (for some weird reason) it should sound the alarm. That's kinda what alarms are for ;)

I had a blackberry that the alarm clock would work even with the phone off. 

There were a lot of great features in both BB and WM that I would love to see on this phone. 

Profiles for one: My favorite feature of WM. Set an appt on the calendar and your phone would automatically switch to vibrate for the duration of the appointment and switch back to ring when it was over.

For the life of me, I dont know where that went...

I noticed that my alarms will still work if I have my volume turned all the way down. It has saved me a few times because I use my phone (Lumia 822) as my alarm clock. The Glance clock stays on while I have it on the wireless charger. It is tilted up at an angle so I can see it anytime at night.

It doesn't work with wireless charging :( 
however when is turned off and you place the phone over the wireless charging pad it turn ON automatically, so I discovered our phone is having the "Wireless Turn On" capability, hehe

I just want it to not wake up and ding in the middle of the night when I am charging it wirelessly.  When the phone reaches full charge, the charger turns off.  Over time, the charge will diminish and when it reaches a certain point, the charger will kick back on and the phone will ding and light up just like when you first place it on the charger.  Is very annoying when you are trying to sleep!

I agree! I wish we could disable that ding altogether.  I do not think it was like this until GDR2.  After I got GDR 2 my phone was dinging and waking me up every morning between 4 and 6 am!  I finally switched to plugging it in the bedroom and putting my wireless charger in the kitchen.

I think you can turn that off by disabling 'All other notifications' in the ringtone settings. But obviously it disables all other notifications as well, so you may want to turn it back on in the morning.

I had suspected that the problem was GDR2 and was hoping that GDR3 would fix it.  I mentioned that on the forums and, for some reason (which I can't remember), the consensus was that it was more likely the Amber update and not GDR2.  I am looking forward to the new updates to see if this is resoloved.  Interestingly, I logged onto the Nokia site and chatted online with tech support and they said they had never heard of this.  I told him to take a look at wpcentral.com.

I too, have resorted to plugging my phone in and forgoing the wireless charger - which I really liked!

Yes, but you can power iPhone back off and it stays off. With that, this has never really bothered me. My phone stays in silent mode 95% of the time.

Its never annoyed me its like the Treos than never turn off until the battery is out, one thing they should add is silence switch like the Treo pro had and apple copied to knew hardware.

It would have been nice to have a changelog from HTC detailing the fixes they included with GDR3 so we wouldn't have to discover this ourselves...

Solar charging via specialized glass is still in testing. So I'm sure we'll see it in phones more often in the coming years.

Cool, hope so. That's what i call wireless charging. As opposed to, you know, a wire sticking out of the 'wireless' charger...

What ever happened to the testing of using an antenna to catch the stray radio waves to charge the phone while in standby? They said it could keep the phone in standby indefinitely. Or was that an April fools joke?

+1, dont need this. I just hope its possible to have the phone turn itself on again efter dying from lack of battery power...

With developers GDR3 on my 8x, I can still hardly use my WiFi connection, sooooo annoying. I've had this problem since GDR2

I have the exact same problem!!! My Wi-Fi cannot detect my home's WiFi sometimes....i had upgraded into GDR3 and it didn't seem to resolve it....

Last week my battery had died ,so i plugged it my usb cable to my tablet, (did not have my charger) to charge my mobile, however as soon as it has a little power it would try and boot up, and then it would power down again.. So it gets stuck in limbo.. Sort it out!

You know what would be even better? If it didn't turn the screen on while charging. Why you need the screen on, using power, when your battery is dead is beyond me.

Do you have Glance enabled? Otherwise the screen stays off while charging. Unless the 8X is different. Im basing this off the 920.

Hi, can anyone please tell me if Win Phone 8.1 can be expected next year for the 8X?

I am doubting It a bit, however this GDR3 helps.

Thnx

Would really like to have that on my 920. Have said this since day one with my hd7. Used to use it a lot in the day for some time away from the phone.
Please do it Nokia x

nice to see that feature come back(like booting as soon as it starts charging which wp7.x didn't have). it will be beneficial for those who heavily use emergency chargers

I wish there was a option to bring back SCREEN NEVER OFF WHILE CHARGING. I could've sworn my old HTC HD7 had that option. None of my Nokia's or ATIV S have the option for the screen to stay on while charging.

*****

It works on 920 !

I have the app dev GDR3 release on my 920, (UK VODA) and tried this.

Shutdown phone plug in and i get the Glance (blank with the current time displayed) screen with a battery charging indicator !

I like the way it is right now. Your phone boots up automatically when connected to charger. That way if my phone shuts off by itself for some reasons, it will still boot up and I won't miss my alarm.

Phones used to wake up upon alarms. But not for "smart" phones nowadays. Ain't that ironic?? Although my HTC One still doing it, but not the 1020. Sad.

if it is good for battery then go for it Nokia

since I always turn off my phone when charge (before I bought lumia)

but since got lumia so rare turn off because rare got lag/hang, especially after update to amber

Can we have an option to reboot phone too with the update? Currently we can only turn it off when holding the power button. It will be nice to have such option because phones nowadays are like PC. Requires rebooting once in a while.

Phones used to wake up upon alarms. But not for "smart" phones nowadays. Ain't that ironic?? Although my HTC One still doing it, but not the 1020. Sad.

Maybe I'm wrong here, but doesn't the iPhone turn on when you put it on the charger? How is this a big deal when I've never heard anyone have any complaints about it on apple's phone?

Found some articles today mentioning how sprint and nokia are working together on Sprint's lte network, could this possibly mean that a phone is in the works?

Be thankful to the gamers--MS woudn't have "added" this feature if gamers didn't kill off the always-on Kinect.

 

MS is realizing that a lot of their design decision was very strangely inconvenient (it's counter-intuitive that people would ever want to take the time to turn anything off and on, but hey--we do!), and it took a near xbone disaster to wake them up.

Only a few more "features" need to be redone, and the OS would be competitive.

I just updated my nokia lumia 521. I am developer so this update must be preview.  I will post review after few days.